Terminator 2 OLD VS NEW

In the cut we saw back during the 1990's, the T1000 was completely unphased by the liquid nitrogen. However, in a revised Director's Cut of the film they reintroduced deleted footage of him glitching after that, he was weaker and unable to maintain his form. Also, it introduced a weird scene of him going through John's room scanning things with his fingertips.

Which version do you prefer?

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Theatrical is better. The editing and pacing of it are superior and the film has zero wasted scenes. Similar to Aliens, while it's cool seeing all of that stuff and extra scenes, they're not needed. Theatrical all the way.

Glitch stuff is cool.

The directors cut adds way too many slow boring scenes. wft was Cameron thinking putting this in an action movie
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I think showing he's still a machine and not some magic blob only strengthens the narrative.

Aliens Director's Cut is better too. Not sure why they cut the scene where Ripley finds out what happened to her daughter from the theatrical. Thematically it's tremendously relevant to the movie.

It's not though. It slows the film down and it's something we really don't need. Neat to see that and the drone guns and the colony before, but none of it is needed.

It definitely is. In a film where motherhood is such a central theme, it's extremely relevant to know she's carrying that emotional baggage with her, and how she feels like she failed her own daughter so protecting Newt is all that much more important to her.

Theatrical is always better

You are not a true kino enjoyer and larp

In a film where motherhood is such a central theme

You don't need that explained though. You realize it through Ripley and Newts relationship. At least I didn't. I don't dislike the Directors cut, like I said it's enjoyable seeing extra scenes of such a brilliant film but I'll always feel that the theatrical is perfect. No wasted film. Perfect pacing and editing.

The scene was deserving of being cut but I don't fault the idea of having a scene to characterise Miles a bit more.

It adds another layer of depth to the relationship that doesn't exist in the theatrical cut. You don't need it for it to be a good movie, but it makes it better, and it's like a 30 second scene, adds nothing to the runtime. Literally no reason for it not to be added.

old good new bad

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It's just not needed in my opinion. Same reason the colony pre attack scene isn't needed. It's also short. Just not needed. I'm sure there are lots of people that agree with you though, I'm just not one of them.

That's because you're fucking retarded and should be put in the ovens.

Nobody agrees with you retard.

yeah Siggy was so pissed they cut that, she refused to do a sequel unless they paid her millions and killed her character

Is this ever not the case? Every director's cut I've ever seen I just thought wow, I can see why they cut this.

Director's Cuts are for diehard fans who just want more stuff. Terminator 2 and Aliens are both excellent examples.

The plantation and forgotten camp are my favourite scenes in apocalypse now.

Apocalypse Now is like Blade Runner for me where I just wanna exist in that world as long as possible, so I love those scenes too.

I don't really need any scenes in a movie. I can just imagine it instead and then it's more crisp because everything that I can imagine is everything that's important.

Painted nails typed this.

Theatrical. Only worthwhile scene in Extended is the Kyle Reese dream. Rest of the scenes are extraneous and slow the theatrical version's brisk pacing.

The Extended Special Edition is the best version simply because of the Future Coda ending (there are only 2 Terminator movies).

That ending is shit.

T2's canon ending is the opening scene of Dark Fate so pick your poison.

Highway ending

Disregard sequels

Easy

There is only one terminator the rest get sloppier each rendition after it

T2 is objectively better than T1.

I am aghast with shock as to how one could think this way. Ripley's dead daughter is an inherent theme to her redemption arc with Newt.

why?

The computer learns emotion

Well yeah, it's on OpenAI o7 by then.

I'm assuming you mean the T1000 (Arnold) that learns emotion. Which makes sense because it was coded to defend John Connor and grew an attachment to him and his loved ones which equates to emotions. Never saw it from that POV, I'll have to give it a re-watch to confirm it holds respect in the series but I still say T1 is the better of the two.

It is, you just don't need it explained. It's implied by her relationship with Newt.

I always thought he was glitched because of the factory heat, in the deleted scenes.

If only they should have got rid of the desert scenes. They slow the movie down. We dont get to see the T1000 till teh end again.

Nah I like the scene and wish we could get 3+ hour versions of really good movies.

it's too on the nose, the queen protecting her eggs and ripley's insticts kicking in prorecting newt was enough for the motherhood themes