After watching for the 12th time I am certain all of the murders were in his head. The only one that possibly could have been real was the homeless guy.
After watching for the 12th time I am certain all of the murders were in his head...
I need to return some video tapes
I took the point to be more that the murders were (at least mostly) real but the yuppie society Bateman existed within was too self-absorbed to notice or care in the few instances it did.
I used to think that but the more times I watch the more I am convinced that thd movie is showing the lead up to the truly crazy shit. The end is the tipping point, where he has gone completely insane and cannot distinguish between fantasy and reality. After the movie he probably ends up killing himself or taking a gun to work or something like that.
The story and ending are much better if it's real (at least until the chase)
Nah, it's an incredible portrait of psychopathy and schizophrenia taking hold of someone.
Everything was real except the whole ATM schizophrenia thing. Now, check em.
The whole chainsaw murder was clearly just a daydream he was having when he was having lunch with his annoying girlfriend. I agree with OP.
There's a well known bit of trivia that in the scene where Willem Dafoe is interviewing Bateman, the director had him play it three separate ways: one where he knew Bateman did it, one where he had no clue, and one where he wasn't sure, and then cut the three together to make the final version. I think the movie overall plays the same way. The murders may have happened, they may not have, and it doesn't matter, because that's not what the movie is about.
that awful fake looking city backdrop
Man old movies were ass.
No it's not, it's goofy and over-the-top (and that's a good thing!)
He literally goes back to the apparent scene of one of his crimes to find no evidence of it ever happening
It's not that over the top from actual mental illness. There are some crazy people out there.
For me? It's eggshell with Romalian type
wrong
You should check out the Broadway musical version, it's pretty different from the movie but I like it a lot. Sadly it was a massive flop and closed only a few weeks after opening, though thankfully long enough for someone to record a bootleg.
youtube.com
(video is not great in the first 3 minutes but it's fine after that)
the guy who plays Bateman in this is kino
Here's what I want to know: did he ever actually do any work? Or was he just a nepo babby who just had to show up and kill time? I don't think we ever see him actually working.
What even is his job? How's he supposed to do it if no one knows what it is?
he's an investment banker on wall street and works on the m&a department
murders? he was removing some yuppie scum
a vice president at an investment bank is generally a first level supervisor of a team of analysts. They specifically say in the film they work in mergers and acquisitions, so it would be conducting valuations and due diligence for a company that is looking to buy another company. They would examine all the financials of the companies, look at market conditions, and advise what they think the appropriate price of the company should be. It would also be his job to manage clients as a point of contact and try to bring in new business to the bank, hence his obsession with landing the fisher account which would help his promotion and bonus opportunities.
Yes, and vice president is the most common title in finance.
then why does the old lady kick him out
I agree, the film becomes more and more dreamlike as it goes on which to me suggested he was an unreliable narrator and the killings were just his delusions.
because he was acting weird and he had no reason to be there
director and writer of the film said the murders happened and "it's all in his head" crowd are wrong
in the book the movie is based on it is obvious the killings are real and not imaginary
"none of it actually happened" = midwit take
I mean no matter what you think, I'm pretty sure the Paul Allen murder was 100% re
Patrick takes his meds, and the scene doesn't end
Gets investigated by a detective later on
Yeah, but then at the end his lawyer says he had dinner with Paul the night before Bateman confessed
director and writer of the film said the murders happened
ok big mouth, what's your source on that?
Also he drags Paul's body out of his building in a sack trailing blood on the floor in front of people and nobody notices
several explanations for that ranging from mistaken identity (happens countless times in the movie) to the more reddit "everyone is covering it up in this dystopian yuppie society" and "everyone is so selfish and narcissistic becasue society and didnt notice"
The Madarchod Chronicle
The amount of times he checked himself in the mirror = he already lived in his head. If there's an escalation in behavior he probably started small, the earlier kills are likely less factual.
louis notices and asks bateman what kind of bag that is
it's the norm so no1curr. satire!
are you baiting or are new posters this media illiterate?
the entire film is a commentary on people not caring. Hence no one knowing anyone's name. No one noticing his threats, no one caring about a chainsaw murder happening in the hallway, realtors covering up the murders to protect property values.
he came in wearing a mask, didn't introduce himself, and he knew nothing about the apartment being offered for rent. apparently he has a key, so he is some weirdo who could even stalk the new tenants. lots of reasons to kick him out
that's the joke, he just cares about the accessory and not really what's in the bag. also, in that shit you notice that there is no blood trail in the lobby, which was probably a continuity error
so you just made it up then?
Is a vice president like a president of vice?
It doesn't matter what you idiots think or believe.
The author, the screenwriter, and the director all confirm the murders were all real, and it wasn't even meant to be ambiguous.
This is according to the commentary and interviews.
So you saw the ad in the Post?
No, uh I mean yes.
There was no ad in the post. I think you'd better leave.
She knows he's the one responsible for the murders, but she just wants to sell an apartment without anyone knowing about it. Themes of greed, capitalism above all else. A rich businessman can even be a serial killer and get away with it in this world.
Lawyer at the end had dinner with someone in London and thought it was Paul. This is more clear in the book, but people keep calling each other the wrong names because they apparently all look the same.
Original author Ellis said, "American Psycho was a book I didn't think needed to be turned into a movie", as "the medium of film demands answers", which would make the book "infinitely less interesting".[58] He also said that while the book attempted to add ambiguity to the events and to Bateman's reliability as a narrator, the film appeared to make them completely literal before confusing the issue at the very end.[59] On a 2014 appearance on the WTF with Marc Maron podcast, Ellis indicated that his feelings towards the film were more mixed than negative; he reiterated his opinion that his conception of Bateman as an unreliable narrator did not make an entirely successful transition from page to screen, adding that Bateman's narration was so unreliable that even he, as the author of the book, did not know if Bateman was honestly describing events that actually happened or if he was lying or even hallucinating. Ellis appreciated that the film clarified the humor for audiences who mistook the novel's violence for blatant misogyny as opposed to the deliberately exaggerated satire he had intended, and liked that it gave his novel "a second life" in introducing it to new readers. Ultimately, Ellis said "the movie was okay, the movie was fine. I just didn't think it needed to be made".
You dumbass didn't even read the book
because they apparently all look the same.
Why didn't they cast asians for the roles then
lacism
I noticed there at a lot of Asians playing people in service positions in the movie. The massage therapists, the dry cleaners, the waiter; I don't have a theory about it, it just jumped out at me
The author, the screenwriter, and the director all confirm the murders were all real, and it wasn't even meant to be ambiguous.
This is according to the commentary and interviews.
then why can't you find and post these supposed interviews?
great idea. I'd think that Patrick embodies all of the vices:
pride: Carruthers, has the most sophisticated card and clothes
greed: Paul Allen, most successful of the group
wrath: Bateman, this is what fuels his bloodlust
envy: Halberstram l, but we cannot really tell if he copies Bateman or Bateman copies him
lust: Bryce, has an affair with Evelyn
gluttony: Van Patten, he is not hungry, but likes to have reservations
sloth: McDermott? Not sure what he does or doesn't do, though
don't wanna, didn't save em, don't care
balls