Wheel of Time

As someone who's going through the books currently and has no nostalgia bias this is easily the ugly fucking most ZOG minded casting I've ever seen.

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As someone that's never read the books or seen the show I can't believe it has so many seasons. Never met or talked to a person that's ever so much as seen a trailer for it. I'd be curious how many people actually watch it.

For being the "Biggest modern fantasy and the LOTR to the current generation" I never knew it existed until like 2 years ago. It has barley any fan art or discussion forums and it's sub reddit is full of insane mentally ill trannies.

episode 7 drops tonight? What are your predictions

Girl bosses.

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I guess i'll take your word for it

Amazon's entire interest in the fantasy genre is seeing that those dreadful Hobbit movies made a billion dollars each and saying "give me more of that".

My theory is it's funded with government grants. There's no other way to explain a show that expensive having this many seasons with next to no one watching.

is it mainly two rivers defence episode? how many times will Faile, Chiad and Bain save Perrin?

Some other random explained it better
Amazon is spending the budget to build new studios and other assets, they don't care if the show sucks

It's pretty bad. It would be a LOT less terrible if pedowood didn't intentionally always find the ugliest brown actors they can for the roles.

I watch it. But it's more for nostalgic reasons. I just block out the scenes with ugly faces.

Everyone called that they had ordered three seasons from the get go as a batch deal when they announced seasons 2 and 3 being in production before the previous seasons even aired. It was the only explanation for them not having to care about viewership numbers or feedback. Thankfully that pattern is broken now, so it looks like any further seasons depend on whether Bezos deems it successful enough, which it obviously isn't.

I've started watching sword of truth show the other day and even though it got many issues atleast 98% of female characters are nice to look at

Personally, I've been coping by slopping some sloppa based on Jordan's casting choices and the book descriptions.

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You must be one of those 5 people that keep these threads alive. Post some slop

To be fair I don't have much. The free plan only lets you try a handful of prompts a day and for some reason it really likes making the character look older than they're supposed to be. Here's best girl though.

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nice but next time try and give her a bit of clevage and jewlery she's decked out with angreals and ter-angreals I know I always post this pic buts its the most accurate representation of the character, note Nyns 100% accurate jewlery they even got the hand ring bracelet angreal spot on

never liked this art, makes aviendha's tits look bigger than plump elayne. Also I fucking hate how they made elayne not only a dyke but a redhead, she's fucking blond for Christ's sake

Yeah, I know she should be bustier, I just didn't want to bother trying to explicitly describe it because I didn't want the filters to block it. Trying to get Graendal was almost impossible and I had to resort to this after removing almost all references to her clothes being see-through and her tits being huge. The face is also not the best here, but it was the only gen that I managed to get through.

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makes aviendha's tits look bigger than plump elayne

no it doesn't at all its just because avi in in the center those are Ds on the left and Cs in the center, also elyane is strawberry blond or red-gold depending on whos pov it is, thats red maybe the pic is a little too red but she isn't blonde. As for her being a dyke in the show well as we all know that thing is a pile of shit.

she's fucking blond for Christ's sake

I don't know why this is such a common take, her hair is described as "red-gold". It's definitely supposed to be redder than pic related, which is what you get when you google "blonde hair".

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its still a solid effort well done

Thanks bro, have a smug definitely not court bard and his marvelous floating harp.

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Sun gold. Her hair is frequently described as sun gold and also once mentioned to be the same shade as Ilenya's, who is known as Ilenya sunhair because of her golden hair. The amount of times I see people assert that Elayne is supposed to be a redhead when she's clearly a blonde with a redder shading is insane.

nice that is really good, never knew thom could channel

wtf I always thought Elayne was in the middle, because NO FUCKING WAY is Elayne more ginger than Avi. I'm re-reading Fires of Heaven, and I just got through the part where Rand is comparing Elayne's hair color to Ilyena's, and we all know Ilyena is a blondie

It's the Battle of the Two Rivers, right?

Perrin gets rescued by Faile

Loial dies (again? Heard they killed him off in S1 but he's back)

Way too much time is spent on the showrunner's boyfriend looking "cool"

I feel like people like you get stuck in the mindset that Elayne has to be a 1:1 reconstruction of Ilyena and let that twist the way you imagine her. Ilyena is definitely described as golden blonde, but Elayne is described as strawberry blonde or red-gold way more often and you're being willfully ignorant if you pretend otherwise.
Also, just for you I went and checked the very first time Rand meets her, EOTW chapter 40:

A silver filigree circlet held her long, red-gold curls

Literally the first time we get a description of her.
She's definitely more golden than a full blown ginger, but still more red than a pure blonde.

Well, Owyn's spark had to come from somewhere.

I'm on book 5 now. They made Perrin some kinda mixed race mutt? lmao

Heard they killed him off in S1 but he's back

They didn't just kill him, they stabbed him in the heart with the Shadar Logoth dagger and then literally never brought it up again and had him just show up alive and well in S2.

Rand meets Elayne for the first time EoTW Chapter 40:

A deep blue velvet cloak lined with pale fur rested on her shoulders, its hood hanging down behind to her waist with a cluster of silver bells at the peak. They jingled when she moved. A silver filigree circlet held her long, red-gold curls, and delicate silver rings hung at her ears, while a necklace of heavy silver links and dark green stones he thought were emeralds lay around her throat. Her pale blue dress was smudged with bark stains from her tree climbing, but it was still silk, and embroidered with painstakingly intricate designs, the skirt slashed with inserts the color of rich cream. A wide belt of woven silver encircled her waist, and velvet slippers peeked from under the hem of her dress.

red-gold

you fucking idiot

are you stupid? Elyane is Green Ajah, Avi wears white and has a dagger, Nyn is obviously on the right, why would you ever think that?

And for comparison, Ilyena is described as "golden-haired" several times in the prologue, the description is deliberately different between the two.

same dagger that burned the Seanchan soldiers in S2 and what gave Rand the wound in his side, but nope, Loial walks it off

because I never imagined in all of my reading that Elayne is more redheaded than Aviendha

because I never imagined in all of my reading that Elayne is more redheaded than Aviendha

Not that anon but that's fair. The art gets the color wrong. The scale from golden blond to full blown ginger goes Ilyena -> Elayne -> Aviendha.

A man

kneeling before a woman with red-gold hair and a crown, one of her hands
resting on his bowed head. The Queen’s Blessing.
I can do this all day
TGH Chapter 45

“I know.” Elayne sighed. “I just wish I knew more of what it does to you.”

She drew her red-gold hair out of the way. “Min, help me, please.” Min began
undoing the buttons down the back of her dress

She drew her red-gold hair out of the way

TDR chapter 10

“You do?” Elayne said. Red-gold curls swung as she shook her head.

TDR Chapter 16

Two tall young men sprawled in the chairs,

all arms and legs. One, with his dark green coat undone to show a snowy
shirt, shared Elayne’s blue eyes and red-gold hair, and his grinning face
marked him plainly as her brother.
You want me to keep going?
TDR chapter 24
Mat got a good look at the youth
with the red-gold hair and let the pebbles drop. Burn me, I’ll bet my whole
purse that’s Elayne’s brother
There are a lot in TDR

The glow around Elayne vanished. “Do not be so hard on yourself,” she

whispered back. “Perhaps it does mean that, but I did not see it, and neither
did Nynaeve.” She paused; red-gold curls swung as she shook her head.
are we done here?

As I said its too red, but saying elayne isn't strawberrry blonde is just ridiculous, Ilyene was golden blonde, people gt too hung up on the whole Elayne is Illyene reincarnated, well guess what Rand is Lews reincarnated and they look nothing alike

tfw no thicc forsaken gf

lol fair point I forgot all about that poor kid

I dont think a man has won a fight, especially not if a woman is around

nyn is much prettier than that but pretty good otherwise

To be honest I just decided that the floating harp was going to be good enough because it was the best result until that point and I was getting tired. I try to use prompts like "her/his face looks like [Jordan's casting choice]" and then describe the hair and eyes separately, but because Jordan picked Patrick Stewart for Thom it just REALLY fucking wanted to make him bald despite me putting "he has a full head of hair. He is not bald" repeatedly into the prompt kek.

literally one time, mat beats up the trakand brothers

my wife and i love the books. i couldn't stomach episode 1 and she quit 2 eps into season 2. we don't discuss it with anyone.
nobody i know has read the books and they all have no interest in some generic fantasy slop shit out by a streaming service if they have no knowledge of the source material.

what retards think elayne is a redhead

Sadly, that was the prettiest result I could get.

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its good work, but thats why I don't bother with AI shit, its tiresome, still you can see why jordan thought he'd make a perfect thom he's right coupled with his theater/shakespeare background its perfect casting

these are pretty great for slop tbqhwyf. New Graendals are always appreciated

but thats why I don't bother with AI shit, its tiresome

Honestly, same. I'm pretty sure I'll get tired of this soon enough, happens every time they release a new generator. It's interesting for a couple of days and then you move on. All it makes me want to do is take up drawing myself with each new pic that's just slightly off in a frustrating way.

this was so fucking egregious. multiple sets of writers actively fighting with one another via the story and pretending like it didn't happen.
WoT is going to be pulled from amazon like artemis fowl was deleted off disney+

ngl guys I was never into the whole Thom/Moiraine thing

i thought it was cute

It could've been foreshadowed a bit more but they're honestly a pretty good fit for each other.

i'm ok with it, if you're going to give her a love interest thoms a good match

Season 3 is pure KINO.

I'm glad I finished skipped this show just after reading the changes from the books and seeing the insanely ugly cast.
Why do all the things I like die horrible deaths?

being dogshit instead of pig shit isn't much of an improvement, its all still shit

zaaaap

heh, nothing personnel sammy

you're too jaded to enjoy anything

This was so fucking lame compared to the books (I know, I'm repeating myself).

I enjoy the Wheel of Time, which is exactly why I don't enjoy this "adaptation" of it.

is he dead or Asmodean'd

this I will re-read the books any day of the week, I enjoy many things, just not this dog-shit formerly pig-shit

I dunno maybe because I read WH before the main series, I found Moiraine and Lan interesting since she was in such a rush to leave the tower since the AS were gonna make her Queen of Cairhien I thought it would be a pretty funny thing if he and Lan end up together at the end and she still becomes queen

asmo, you get a blink and you'll miss it shot of him right near the end

I dunno maybe because I read WH before the main series

Why the fuck would you do that?

WH

NS ?

The show is good now, you just need to slog through 20 hours of unwatchable shit to get to it

GoT didn't get popular until season 3 either!

Amazon isn't marketing it at all but it's still #1! (on Prime in India)

Late night talk shows? No the cast doesn't need to do any promotion on those, but did you see Rosamund's interview on Amazon Live? What, you've never heard of Amazon's QVC knockoff no one watches?

End the copes, the show is dead

every big momemnt the men are supposed to have have been watered down shit whereas the women are dialled up to 11
yes

my mistake brain fart it's NS
yeah

Official Kino reading order:
The Wheel of Time Companion
9. Winter's Heart
0. New Spring
6. Lord of Chaos
7. A Crown of Swords
1. Eye of the World
2. The Great Hunt
4. The Shadow Rising
3. The Dragon Reborn
11. Knife of Dreams
11. Knife of Dreams (again)
8. The Path of Daggers
10. Crossroads of Twilight
12. The Gathering Storm
13. Towers of Midnight
14. A Memory of Light

aw shit yeah its aviendha again, she just beat the greatest swordsman in the world and just started training to be a wise one but holy fuck she can summon TWO FLAMING SPEARS ALREADY and taking on multiple darkfriends and stabbing a forsaken in the back she is so bad ass!

its a bit too early in the week for story time however, this is how the scene actually goes

Rand pulled at saidin. Through Callandor. The Sword That Is Not a Sword
blazed in his hands, as if he held noonday. The Power filled him, hammering
down like solid thunder. The taint rushed through him in a flood of blackness.
Molten rock pulsed along his veins; the cold inside him could have frozen the
sun. He had to use it, or burst like a rotted melon.

The Myrddraal turned to flee, and suddenly black clothes and armor
crumpled to the floor, leaving oily motes floating in the air

Rand was not even aware he had channeled until it was done; he could not
have said what he had done if his life had depended upon it. But nothing
could threaten his life while he held Callandor. The Power throbbed in him
like the heartbeat of the world. With Callandor in his hands, he could do
anything. The Power hammered at him, a hammer to crack mountains. A
channeled thread whisked the Myrddraal’s drifting remains out into the
anteroom, and its clothes and armor, too; a trickled flow incinerated both. He
strode out to hunt those who had come hunting him.

Some of them had come as far the anteroom. Another Fade and a huddle of
cowering Trollocs stood before the columns at the far side staring at ash that
sifted out of the air, the last fragments of the Myrddraal and all its garb. At the
sight of Rand with Callandor flaring in his hands, the Trollocs howled like
beasts. The Fade stood paralyzed with shock. Rand gave them no chance to
run. Maintaining his deliberate pace toward them, he channeled, and flames
roared from the bare, black marble beneath the Shadowspawn, so hot that he
flung up a hand against it. By the time he reached them, the flames were
gone; nothing remained but dull circles on the marble.

that's the Stone of Tear? lol lmao

Back down into the Stone he went, and every Trolloc, every Myrddraal he
saw died wreathed in fire. He burned them fighting Aiel or Tairens, and killing servants trying to defend themselves with spears or swords snatched
from the dead. He burned them as they ran, whether stalking more victims or
fleeing him. He began to move faster, trotting, then running, past the
wounded, often lying untended, past the dead. It was not enough; he could not
move fast enough. While he killed Trollocs in handfuls, others still slew, if
only to escape.

Suddenly he stopped, surrounded by the dead, in a wide hallway. He had to
do something—something more. The Power slid along his bones, pure
essence of fire. Something more. The Power froze his marrow. Something to
kill them all; all of them at once. The taint on saidin rolled over him, a
mountain of rotting filth threatening to bury his soul. Raising Callandor, he
drew on the Source, drew on it till it seemed he must scream screams of
frozen flame. He had to kill them all.

Just beneath the ceiling, right above his head, air slowly began to revolve,
spinning faster, milling in streaks of red and black and silver. It roiled and
collapsed inward, boiling harder, whining as it whirled and grew smaller still.

Sweat rolled down Rand’s face as he stared up at it. He had no idea what it
was, only that racing flows he could not begin to count connected him to the
mass. It had mass; a weight growing greater while the thing fell inward on
itself. Callandor flared brighter and brighter, too brilliant to look at; he closed
his eyes, and the light seemed to burn through his eyelids. The Power raced
through him, a raging torrent that threatened to carry all that was him into the
spinning. He had to let go. He had to. He forced his eyes open, and it was like
looking at all the thunderstorms in the world compressed to the size of a
Trolloc’s head. He had to . . . had to . . . had to. . . .

how do we take these villains seriously if they just stand there to be murdered

Now. The thought floated like cackling laughter on the rim of his
awareness. He severed the flows rushing out of him, leaving the thing still
whirling, whining like a drill on bone. Now.

And the lightnings came, flashing out along the ceiling left and right like
silver streams. A Myrddraal stepped out of a side corridor, and before it could
take a second step half a dozen flaring streaks stabbed down, blasting it apart.
The other streams flowed on, fanning down every branching of the corridor,
replaced by more and more erupting every second.

Rand had not a clue to what he had made, or how it worked. He could only
stand there, quivering with the Power that filled him with the need to use it.
Even if it destroyed him. He could feel Trollocs and Myrddraal dying, feel the
lightnings strike and kill. He could kill them everywhere, everywhere in the
world. He knew it. With Callandor he could do anything. And he knew trying
would kill him just as surely.

The lightnings faded and died with the last Shadowspawn; the spinning
mass imploded with a loud clap of inrushing air. But Callandor still shone
like the sun; he shook with the Power.

Moiraine was there, a dozen paces away, staring at him. Her dress was neat,
every fold of blue silk in place, but wisps of her hair were disarrayed. She
looked tired—and shocked. “How . . . ? What you have done, I would not
have believed possible.” Lan appeared, half-trotting up the hall, sword in
hand, face bloodied, coat torn. Without taking her eyes from Rand, Moiraine
flung out a hand, halting the Warder short of her. Well short of Rand. As if he
were too dangerous for even Lan to approach. “Are you . . . well, Rand?”

its Cold Rocks Hold

Season 2 the villain turned in a great performance.

Other than that, the show is extremely bad. I mean B Movie tier filler. Nobody should watch it.

no this happens in the aiel wastes lol

Rand pulled his gaze away from her, and it fell on the body of a dark-haired
girl, little more than a child. She lay sprawled on her back, eyes wide and
fixed on the ceiling, blood blackening the bosom of her dress. Sadly, he bent
to brush strands of hair from her face. Light, she is only a child. I was too late.
Why didn’t I do it sooner? A child!

His hand shook so hard on Callandor that he could barely hold on. “With
this, I can do anything.” His voice was harsh in his own ears. “Anything!”
“Rand!” Moiraine said urgently.
He would not listen. The Power was in him. Callandor blazed, and he was
the Power. He channeled, directing flows into the child’s body, searching,
trying, fumbling; she lurched to her feet, arms and legs unnaturally rigid and
jerky.
“Rand, you cannot do this. Not this!”
Breathe. She has to breathe. The girl’s chest rose and fell. Heart. Has to
beat. Blood already thick and dark oozed from the wound in her chest. Live.
Live, burn you! I didn’t mean to be too late. Her eyes stared at him, filmed.
Lifeless. Tears trickled unheeded down his cheeks. “She has to live! Heal her,
Moiraine. I don’t know how. Heal her!”
“Death cannot be Healed, Rand. You are not the Creator.”

Staring into those dead eyes, Rand slowly withdrew the flows. The body
fell stiffly. The body. He threw back his head and howled, as wild as any
Trolloc. Braided fire sizzled into walls and ceiling as he lashed out in
frustration and pain.

Sagging, he released saidin, pushed it away; it was like pushing away a
boulder, like pushing away life. Strength drained out of him with the Power.

The taint remained, though, a stain weighing him down with darkness. He had
to ground Callandor on the floor tiles and lean on it to stay on his feet.

Fin

Thats a 1000x better then the show, and not even that budget heavy, god I hate Rafe with the heat of a thousand suns

wait what I thought they were gonna get Callandor this season?

do you have ebooks ready to go storyanon? what reader do you use? I used to read along on have the books open on one screen with the audio book going when studying or working I think I might listen to them all again. What reader do you use if any?

swap shadow rising with new spring, swap ACoS with KoD and you've got a good list

probably final episode. They went to rhuidean before Tear. Rand will have his aiel army attack tear probably

I really hope the season ends with Moiraine and Lanfear double suicide and then the show gets cancelled.

Thorium on my pc Readera on my phone, I own all the books hard copy of course but thats for digital, usually I will have winword or notepad or something if I'm editing it, copy in text and then trim it down, that one was short enough I could just post it in its entirety. WoT isn't that difficult to edit Tolkien is harder, the Turin one was really tough.

wtf what about the prophecy? The Aiel followed him before Rhuidean because of the Stone falling, as it was the first step in their prophecy. Why did they let him in Rhuidean then?

the show is retarded anon, I thought you knew this?

They haven't given a fuck about any prophecies in the series, why are you surprised?

Not fond of them making "Samael" look fat and old.

not even writers know

is the whole Illian raid cut now? the first time we see the Legion of the Dragon in action? Rand and Sammael travelling all over the place fighting, eventually ending up in Shadar Logoth? THE Shadar Logoth battle where Rand and Moridin cross streams so they could switch bodies in the end? All gone now that Sammy's dead?

anon the whole show is pretty much cut

nice thanks. I forgot which readers I used before so will check them out. Cheers

I can enjoy a lot of things if they bother to make them the way i expect it

you're only lying to yourself m8

i have watched all of this show and not a single scene has been even close to the compareable scene from the book, not a single one. last episode two children who are not even sure if they can channel heal alana because she tells them the embracing the source excercise, its just drivel i cant wait for it to be canceled.

I cant wait for it to be canceled

same, if the Light is just it will be soon, its utter trash.