...sometime in the future. Just wait
George R.R. Martin Confirms Winds of Winter
Isn't that only the second to last book anyway
The second to last one currently. Before Dance released it was to be the last one.
So if it's ever released you can bet there'll now be one to come after a Dream of Spring
I swear if it comes out before GTA 6
breaking news, lazy fat douchebag still has not released book
Why even bother with this?
He's literally going to croak before this one even comes out. Unless he got god-tier genetics he isn't gonna make it much longer
The last thing GRRM will kill is our hopes and dreams of reading the ending
Kino
they sign another author on to finish it
it’s Patrick Rothfuss
So will the last canon event in the ASOIAF universe be Dany shitting herself silly?
kek
This fat fuck deserves it. I am glad the lasting legacy of his "magnum opus" will be the shitty ending to the show and the unfinished book saga.
Sunset found her bouncing in the grass, groaning. Every cum was weaker than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was fucking a passed-out bull. The more she cucked, the more she came, but the more she came, the lustier she grew, and her lust sent her crawling to the bull to suck up more cum. When she closed her eyes at last, Dany did not know whether she would be strong enough to open them again.
No he didn't. He's given up on writing because the show cucked him out of his own series. He knows it, the audience knows it, and he feels cucked because he knows the audience knows.
Sometimes I legitimately feel sorry for him. He will die of old age, and his legacy will be that of a cuckold.
More like magnum copus.
winter dont matter
yet you will never know her smile, his grin said
Author dies before finishing the last book in the series
Accomplished fantasy "author" Brando Sandyson is hired to finish it
He is allowed to make 1 character from scratch and do as he wants with them.
He is allowed to kill off 1 character outside of the plan already laid out.
What does he do Anon Babble?
The main problem with Rothfuss isn't his cuckold fantasies but that the MC keeps going from I'M RICH to I SPENT IT ALL AND NOW I'M POOR every other chapter, it's so fucking boring
What's his problem? How hard is it to just put words on some paper
direwolves were literally genetically engineered back to life before the release of the winds of winter
grim
Very hard, when you're rich off royalties and it literally makes no difference to your well-being whether you write the next part or not
>direwolves were literally genetically engineered back to life before the release of the winds of winter
grim
heh
This lol
we know how it ends
NO NO NO ARYA DOESN'T KILL THEM
Somebody else does. Dispatches them easily and plot moves forward to torching KL.
N-no he gave them the wrong ending as a prank
FAT
FUCK
He saw the reaction to the ending and chickened out
He gave them his ending and people didn't like it. He abandoned the series after that.
Why do you think he did Elden Ring and Dark Winds?
GRRM was an investor and advisor in that project too
No I wasn't
No I wasn't
aaany day now
We got literal direwolves before Winds of Winter. Think about that for a minute.
Extrapolating from that means 13,000 more years until WoW
JUST FINISH THE FARTS OF WINTER ALREADY YOU FAT FAGGOT
He already did that, it was Dany's last chapter
Quick reminder that the combined word count of the blogposts he’s written since Dance eclipse the first three books of the series
It’s only been…what…thirteen years? I think everyone’s just waiting around for his fat ass to die at this point.
Don’t you worry George, my laddie. Surely your devoted son will compile and edit your writings into a publishable form and release them after your passing.
*hits pipe*
Anon Babble makes fun of Christopher for years because he was seething about the LOTR kinos so much
proven completely right when Hobbit slop comes out
AAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEE
Thomas Pynchon took 17 years between Gravity's Rainbow and Vineland, it'll be fine
So is he gonna die before it's released?
I
GERM, GET TO THE TYPEWRITER GERM!
But he just opened a new pub
man Sanderson writes so much shit I dont understand how he has free time to do anything. Meanwhile GRRM buys a trampoline
Oh so you think you're so much better huh? How about an early release copy just for you
claps hands on asscheeks, spreads and braps
hope you enjoyed the realism of my winds of winter, daydreamer
BREAKING NEWS
FRESH OFF THE PRESSES
We're receiving unconfirmed reports from reliable sources that George RR Martin, fat fuck author of the successful but unfinished A Song Of Ice And Fire novel series, has in fact not been writing the next anticipated installment of the, again, completely unfinished, unresolved novel series
wow thanks @westerosies, it is good to be informed
The difference between their writing is a standard of quality though. You can say what you want about how little George has been writing recently, but his body of work consists of actually well-written works. Sanderson just churns out whatever.
He 100% intends to die before finishing it so that he won’t have to deal with the fallout of having written himself into a corner. Miura did the same thing.
I kind of understand him. Why would you spend the last years of your life working like a nigger writing for months/years when you are already rich?
At least dire wolves are real now
And even then, the Hobbit trilogy looks like a masterpiece when compared to some of the slop that's out today
You're so right John Ronald Reuel, it's very reassuring to live in the knowledge that the next generation has grown up in the experience of the stories we create, and will surely carry out the conclusion of our life's work in a competent non-exploitative way that respects the decades we spent pouring our souls into it, if we are unable to complete it within our lifetime.
Don't post things like this
I like, for one, liked the idea of Dany going berserk (because she is a woman) and having to be put down. It’s not the idea, but the execution that was bad. Also, pretty much everything with Arya was horrendous.
One of the thing about American culture is its implicit hierarchy based on money. Movies, and Hollywood, sit on the top of that hierarchy. And every artist, the comic book author, the actual author, the slop writer, you name them. All of them only write so hat thye, one day, woudl see their work turned into a blockbuster movie, or, more recently, into a stream serie.
Now that George has access to that medium, he will NEVER go back to writing. For in his amerian mind such thing a beneath him now.
We've known that for over a decade.
Anyone who thinks the ending of the books will be any better than the show is delusional.
The truth is that the ''everybody dies'' kind of ending is perhaps the most suited to his type of work.
Moreover, the characters do not represent any ideal or ideology other than the naked struggle for power, and for the sake of power.
We dont even know what would their tax policy be. And as such no matter who ends up on the throne, or no matter what happens the only result will be a continuation of the status quo.
It's true I finally reread the original trilogy and they are so good. christopher was right to shit on hackson
Get your fat booty on a chair and in front of a keyboard
He was right by accident.
The shit he bitched about in the lotr adaption was largely inconsequential outside of the Gondor fuck ups, and the hobbit was butchered before a scene was even shot.
That said, he was a man of principles. Whether or not I think his original complaints were justified, he still told amazon to fuck off because of his fears of them being repeated, despite undoubtedly being offered his weight in gold and more.
Gondor fuck ups
Which ones are those? I hope he complained that there's absolutely no farms and orchard around Minas Tirith because that's what I'm autismally mad about
either he will never finish the books or he is already done and will only release them upon his death to dodge the reactions
I'm mad about that, the lack of the wall around the Pelanor and most importantly how absolutely ruined my man Denethor was.
In the books he was able to avoid falling to Sauron even when using the Palantir (unlike even Saruman) and only fell for Sauron messing with what he saw through it after he found out Boromir was dead.
Movie made him 'generic evil ruler'
now that I've actually read a bunch of fantasy novels, "everyone dies in the end except X" is really not that unusual so yeah he should just go for it.
That's what happens when you focus on worldbuilding instead of telling a story.
The funny part is that the GRRMs of the world are what make the Sandersons of the world successful.
Being able to churn out mountains of words is only a valuable skill when you’re so desperate for something to read that the quality requirement lowers to being readable.
You should always be cautious of authors that are too far above the average of 100k edited words per year, because chances are they’re either protected from editors or said editors are sycophants. Not always, naturally, but it indicates a mindset of quantity over quality.
I still don't know why you haven't receive at least two replies seething that GRRM is shit and Tolkien is the real fantasy author.
Ah yes, the famous worldbuilding of Westeros and Easteros.
You should always be cautious of authors that are too far above the average of 100k edited words per year, because chances are they’re either protected from editors or said editors are sycophants.
Fortunately even Sanderson's fans have now started calling him out for this as of the latest Stormlight slop
Denethor and Faramir are butchered in the movies. Most of the things I take issue with the trilogy can be justified to a degree by the need for brevity, but there was no reason to make Denethor an outright villain, nor to make Faramir so much lesser.
Denethor in the books may have been antagonistic at points, but it’s made very clear that he was a man who wearied from a lifetime of struggle, and even when he thought Gondor was doomed he still donned armour and a sword before he gave in to despair.
For a series that seemed to be the next big thing in fantasy, it really dropped off a cliff, huh.
I do sympathise with his desire to make mental health issues more than just telling people to have a stiff upper lip and curing them, but the main characters going through the same arcs three fucking times was too much for me.
Riches of lore that put Tolkien to shame.
That would be thematically perfect lol
fat pedo jew is never finishing his novels. get used to it
He deconstructs chivalry because he is a fat disgusting pig who doesn't get it.
I can already read the articles being written after he dies:
George R.R. Martin never owed you to finish A Song of Ice & Fire
The saga of A Song of Ice & Fire will forever remain unfinished...and that's OK.
Renown author George R.R. Martin passes on leaving one of the most important legacies in modern literature and incels are still crying about him not finishing his books.
It honestly baffles me when white knights claim authors don’t owe their readers at least the effort to finish their works.
If you sell a book under the assumption it’s part of a series, then no shit people will be pissed if it turns out that was a lie.
Someone must be paying this fatfuck to not release it. It is the only explanation.
Oh i'm with you, it's just it's astounding how many times i've seen chuds online saying he doesn't owes his readership anything. Which is bullshit.
This fat fuck hasn't moved the story forward for 25 years. All of the plot points of A Storm of Swords got put on ice; why anyone is surprised Winds isn't coming is beyond me.
The books he shat out after ASOS were long form procrastination. NOW PICK BEST SANSA!
Chuds don’t say this. Chuds are the ones giving him shit while the trannies run defense.
I do wonder if George would be less cynical if actually had children instead of being perma virgin stuck in the 70's.
Peaked at 13? What a life.
Book Sansa, with her canonically growing boobs and imminent sexual awakening!
14-15 imo is perfect.
GRRM is just a boomer stuck in the 60s and 70s.
Sad.
Please understand they did a LOT of drugs back then
A liberal homosexual feminist Jew was teaching a class on George R.R. Martin, known hack
”Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship Gurm and accept that Planetos is the greatest fantasy setting of all time even greater than Arda!”
At this moment, a brave, patriotic, British WW1 veteran who had served 1500 tours of duty on the Somme and understood the necessity of war and fully supported all decisions made by Butcher Haig stood up.
”What are the linguistic differences among the peoples of Westeros?”
The arrogant pleb smirked quite jewishly and smugly replied “There is the Old Tongue and the Common Tongue, you stupid warmonger”
”Wrong. There should be hundreds of dialects. If the Wall is 8000 years old as you say, how can the Wildlings and Northmen understand one another?”
The HBO shill was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and copy of A World of Ice and Fire. He stormed out of the room crying those redditor crocodile tears. The same tears redditors (who today live in such luxury most can afford sex changes) cried when Missandei was beheaded. There is no doubt that at this point our Jew-faggot wished he had pulled himself up by his bootstraps and become more than a garbage pulp fiction fan. He wished so much he could die a glorious death in battle, but he had sworn to always be a draft dodger!
The students applauded and became Tolkien fans that day and accepted the Pope as their Lord and Master. A giant eagle named “Thorondor” flew into the room and perched atop the flag of Gondor and shed a tear on the White Tree. The Silmarillion was read several times, and Eru Ilúvatar himself showed up and enacted Aragorn's flat rate tax policy across the universe.
The Jew was fired the next day and sunset found him squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up he was shitting brown water.
I dunno bro, pretty good casting
White boomers grew up in the last decades of White America, and now don't understand why the country has gone to shit.
Explains his reaction to all the Sad Puppies shit.
It was, they just were unlucky with puberty.
Arya, on the other hand, was atrocious casting.
Pic not related.
You're acting like places aren't named exactly like that in reality. Stop being such a retard.
To bad she’s a crazy.
There's Estonia, I guess.
ASOIAF
Fire & Blood
A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms
He could literally just pick one of these and continue writing and he'll be swimming in cash but no
The latter two are finished though
A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms was a kino read.
no they aren't
Wrong. Both are exactly at the halfway mark.
The issue is he likes writing TV better than books.
I truly believe the ending to GOT killed any passion he had for ASOIAF. I also think it started to die when the show passed up the books.
art for ASOIAF is so dogshit lmao. It's hilarious how fanship art is the best and everything is awful lmao.
should've been preggo earlier
My theory is that once his inceldom ended, so did his drive to write. ASOIAF is kinda inherently horny.
aspiaf was dead before got ended lol, brand has had 3 chapters in 25 years
The books are finished what are you talking about? He doesn't write for the shows and has no creative control, are you retarded by any chance?
you are going to get 10 sequels and DLCs for elden ring and then he dies.
stupid fat fuck,finish your damn job.
Eh. Some of the recent stuff is okay.
Fuck that one bitch who is trying to make the Starks Native American though.
The books are finished what are you talking about?
they literally aren't per george himself
Fire and Blood was supposed to be a duology. Second half hasn't come out yet.
There are still three planned Dunk and Egg stories, which haven't come out.
My theory is that once his inceldom ended, so did his drive to write. ASOIAF is kinda inherently horny
That could be true. Samwell is a self insert judging by that forum he used to post in.
aspiaf was dead before got ended lol
Certainly was. I think he just didn't know it yet and the finale was the killing blow. I read somewhere he was passionate about writing for television which he used to do in the 90's
He said he will write those after he releases the Winds of Winter which is never so those series are finished, are you retarded?
An unfinished series is finished because that's the plan.
It is sort of a low key secret for those in the know that GRRM's wife has had cancer since 2022. And that he has been slow on Winds because of it. It is due to a mixture of grief and wanting to spend more time with her (vacations). I really struggle to see him finishing the series.
How are you a knower?
George is so addicted to hollywood and so desperate to be on the red carpet that he let fucking Paul WS Anderson turn one his stories into a box office flop.
What wife?
what about the other 15 years
Parris Mcbride.
We will get WoW eventually, maybe even posthumously (despite what he insists)
My guess is we will have to wait until he dies. The publisher has probably already paid for WoW so we will get it someday.
We won't get a dream of spring tho
Never heard of her.
mfw I remember shae actor simping George did
simping for a whore just like his book characters
Meanwhile, the female side of the fandom is jerking off to
Jon/Sansa
Sandor/Sansa
Jaime/Sansa
Seriously holy fuck fanfiction is horny and it's all female writers.
Him and Paul deserve eachother.
I heard Paul is going to be involved with the RE reboot series.
>mfw I remember shae actor simping George did
>simping for a whore just like his book characters
I was just looking her up. Sibel Kekilli (kek)
I heard a rumor she fucked him for the part.
Was initially more concerned with the tv show
Was too slow to write winds in 2015 (He literally thought he could do the whole thing in 8 months and got nowhere close) so did F&B instead until 2018.
Waited in 2019 for show to finish
Wrote a lot in 2020-2022
Wife gets cancer in 2022
Jon/Sansa never made sense to me. I get that both Jon's and Sansa's POVs imply a connection between them sometimes, but that's just because they are the last surviving siblings of a Great House as far as they know.
Sandor/Sansa is just women being women.
I've never even heard of Jaime/Sansa.
Fuck that one bitch who is trying to make the Starks Native American though.
Source?
>Wife gets cancer in 2022
Welp
He is never going to finish them
Post the entire thing coward
Saaros
This isn't the literature board, retard. Take that shit over there where they actually care.
They've made a bunch of art like this. I won't even post Native Ned here.
That's literally Tolkien THOUGH
Pretty sure she was a pornstar. I don't get the appeal in the slightest, ugly asf, but I 1000% think she fucked George for the part.
I've never even heard of Jaime/Sansa.
youtube.com
Bitches love Jaime, it's mostly written as a twist of Jaime marrying Sansa instead of Tyrion so he's released from his vows, because nobody likes dwarves.
The same book he promised was absolutely, unquestionably coming out in 2013, but definitely no later than 2014 if there were any problems?
George Raymond Richard Martin (born George Raymond Martin)
The same book he promised was absolutely, unquestionably coming out in 2013, but definitely no later than 2014 if there were any problems?
This happened again right before covid IIRC
dude lets like not release Return of the King and leave the story open ended
EXPECTATIONS SUBVERTED
Nah, he should write another book that takes place a century earlier. We don;t need to see how the story ends, we just want to hear about Dany's grandfather and how crazy he was some more.
Tolkien's LoTR is a very simple story. Its strength is in the world-building.
god-tier genetics
Queen Elizabeth II lived until 96. A Dance with Dragons came out in 2011. He's 76 and morbidly obese. It's ogre.
This was my 9/11.
Does it even matter anymore?
The abysmal final season of the show completely buried any element of fandom this franchise ever really had. No one can make themselves give a shit about the current series HBO is peddling either. It's fucking dead.
thats already after the lockdowns.
dude was stuck at home for 2 years and made no progress on these books.
he does give zero fucks and they will never come out
He has ordered all his notes and unfinished work to be burned up on his death. He is that much of a petty asshole.
lol, GRRm once said that his will states that nobody is allowed to touch his work after his death and all manuscripts and notes to be burned.
how in the fuck are they granny pancake tits? Even my 13 year old self was disappointed.
Contrast this with Sanderson who wrote like 4 extra books during covid lockdowns. Again, quality probably wasn't very high but he still did it.
It's fucking dead
They destroyed any rewatch value it had with that finale. I haven't touched it since the finale.
"quality" is just some cope that Asoiaf fans throw around.
Dance of Dragons is absolutely not some kind of epic 10/10 book that no other author could ever release. People acting like he is writing Bible 2.0 redux on his computer
Is Sanderson writing ever horny? Male gaze?
Aggressively asexual and juvenile.
The real cope is that the remaining bookfags don't understand the books are in a right shite of a mess. Too many plot points, too many travelogue POVs, not enough rape.
This will be contested in court immediately after he dies by his publisher. My guess is they will have a solid case for this too.
They likely already paid and have spent their own money on WOW in some capacity.
So stay away? Do not read?
I thought the most telling result was Barnes and Noble abandoning their ASOIAF/GoT merch almost immediately. They had a huge collectibles section and that shit was on clearance and gone within 2 weeks of that finale.
I didn't say anything about ASOIAF being 10/10. I said Sanderson's writing is slop. You know it is, there's no reason to beat around the bush here.
George is still a lazy fat fuck with no legitimate defence or justification for his procrastination.
I mean if you're a 12-year-old Mormon boy it will probably blow your mind but if you're an adult you'll probably rather read Guy Gavriel Kay or something
This is the actual reason why I believe he quit a decade ago. He wrote himself into a massive series of corners and there is no fucking way to resolve it. The books cannot be finished with the huge amount of plot points.
First 3 books are definitely some of my favorite fantasy novels. Goes right to the shitter after that.
and Georges latest 5 books and novels are shlop too. Yet this nigger can't write 50 pages in 2 and a half years
They would have already been pressuring him to finish it if this were the case.
It's not surprising. After the finale there was a lot of GOT merch at the local closeout store chain Marc's.
All the figures were there.
I am genuinely surprised HBO let them fuck up the ending like that and didn't try to sue them or something. They sank the brand.
I really enjoyed the Cersei POVs in AFFC.
No they're not. You've never read Sanderson if you think you can compare Georgy-Porgy even at his worst to him.
I don't even care at this point. He just does these updates to try to stay relevant.
Pressuring him how? He's already got all the money he needs, he's old and set for whatever life he has left. He has no children, so no one to leave an inheritance to. There's no leverage with which to force him into anything.
We don't really know that they haven't been. It could be why he writes those spin offs and shit, just to fulfill his contractual obligations.
I don't care about your personal beef between these two authors.
4 released books of Sanderson are infinitely percent better than 0 released books of the lard-ass
By now I don't even want to think about A Dream of Spring.
Is sanderson the one who wrote those mistborn books? I tried listening to that slop and had to turn it off.
I don't care if it's good, I just want to consooooom
Okay dude you do you
Yeah, that's him. And get this, Mistborn is considered some of his better work.
Look at his notes for AFFC and ADWD, he literally ignored his editor every single time. He was riding a huge high from the success of the first 3 books, then got a TV deal and thought he could write whatever the fuck he wanted to Fantasy wise.
They had 7 seasons of critically acclaimed TV. How anyone expects a TV show runner to finish the mess that is ASOIAF is beyond me, what we got wasn't bad IMO.
By threatening to sue him for not doing his part of the fucking deal?
But those spin-offs wouldn't qualify for that unless the publisher's lawyers wrote up a completely shit contract. Which is possible, I suppose.
They had 7 seasons of critically acclaimed TV. How anyone expects a TV show runner to finish the mess that is ASOIAF is beyond me, what we got wasn't bad IMO.
I never liked the cut the head off the snake trope.
For me, the 7 seasons were pretty good, but I can't even rewatch them because the payoff was so bad. You could be right though, the book ending could have been just as bad or worse, and maybe that's why Jorge isn't finishing it. Maybe he really liked the ending and seeing the reaction the show got ruined it for him.
sue him for not writing book for you to consoom
What?
And I liked Jaime's, but it basically was literary masturbation. The story moved forward an inch.
pressuring a childless rich hippie
yea nah mate he's not doing shit
He was been busy...
Yea, AFFC was a bit shit, and ADWD was even worse. I still read them, hoping for Winds, like an idiot.
How the fuck would you honestly finish the books if you were him?
I heard that the White Walkers aren't even really a major plot point in the books like they were in the show.
two things can b e bad. Lil chrissy isn't a good "compiler"
It did cost the Davids their Star Wars gig. They were set to direct the next Star Wars film but fucking up GoT had them dropped by Disney.
I was surprised to see HBO trying again with that prequel series too. After tanking the brand, why would they throw more money into it like that?
But those spin-offs wouldn't qualify for that unless the publisher's lawyers wrote up a completely shit contract. Which is possible, I suppose.
Stranger things have happened. If the stories about Kathleen Kennedy's Disney contract are true, I would argue anything is possible regarding GRRM's book contract, could be a flexible one he had before his books got popular.
I just don't think they will let his main series die if he dies. Too many greedy companies involved now. I'd imagine we will get a GOT reboot announcement shortly after he dies too.
I'm surprised his publisher hasn't had him killed by now
Brown Arya
?
You say that as if he didn't push out all his shitty sequels purely for the money himself.
I wasn't the one who said he was contractually obliged by his publisher you fucking ingrate. I was saying if he were they would have already sued him. Yes if the publisher pays you for a book and you don't deliver they are rightfully able to sue you. As it should be because the world isn't built on empty promises.
It did cost the Davids their Star Wars gig. They were set to direct the next Star Wars film but fucking up GoT had them dropped by Disney.
That was justice. I heard they rushed the ending to season 8 because of the Disney deal.
Probably hoping to recapture the hype around GOT. They might think if they do a good job on this series it might bring back the interest or something.
No. Sue him for not completing work that he contractually was obliged to complete. Since 2012 Harper Collins has been making up two budgets every year, one based on if George finishes Winds, one based on if he doesn't.
could be a flexible one he had before his books got popular.
Absolute fucking doubt and there would at least have been renegotiations if that were the case as he could just go to a different publisher and eat the lawsuit.
I'm not even sure if I remember what happened in the last book. Didn't Dany have the shits or something? I read ADWD in highschool now I'm about to turn 30 soon.
Shae da funni whore
They have an inflated importance in the minds of readers because of their presence in the first prologue.
I read ADWD in highschool now I'm about to turn 30 soon.
many such cases
I guess we will see, and probably soon.
I don't think they will let him take ASOIAF to the grave with him though.
They might even be building a case right now waiting for that motherfucker to choke on a bigmac. My guess is whoever is in charge of his estate will side with HBO or his publisher as soon as he dies too. We will get the Sanderson ending to ASOIAF
You're the one who decided to read an unfinished story.
atleast the first three books are kinda their own finished story arc. if you stop reading after storm you get a nice little kino trilogy
Sansa got sex mogged by Robert Baratheon's bastard daughter.
Honestly, I think them sticking to George's ending notes fucked them. Most of the outrage was Dany being killed and Jon sent north.
Bran the King also makes no fucking sense.
I've never actually seen details about this "Star Wars" deal. Just hot air.
Cast was tired asf, literally a decade of time spent on a show with no recasts. It was season 8 or nothing.
How is it inflated? Jon and Bran’s storylines are all about getting ready for the others. Stannis ditched everything to come save the wall because he knows how important it is. The series is filled with people talking about how this will be a long terrible winter, it looms over the rest of the series. They basically represent the apocalypse that is significantly more important than the wars and intrigues everyone’s been consumed with.
George kinda forgot about the Others
I wouldn't. I'll let the fans write their own ending and fight over which one is superior
I was saying the other day George RR should step away from this and try writing something else to recharge his creative batteries. Like a 200 page bildungsroman about a group of friends spending their last summer together before going off to college.
try writing something else
He has been doing this the entire time though. He even worked on Elden Ring
Then put
part 1 of whenever I decide to say fuck it and quit
instead and see how well it does.
George kinda forgot about the Others
I think this is the real explanation.
Probably just liked writing about the sordid characters more than the existential threat.
The first book sets up the situation as the Others are the existential problem that will make all the petty squabbling of the kingdoms meaningless. They were always hyped as the looming existential threat.
Just Martin is way more interested in sex and political intrigue than magical warfare with ice elves so he gradually pushed back their importance as the books pressed on.
Cast was tired asf getting ridiculous amounts of money to be on one of the biggest shows in the world
Oh boo fucking hoo.
Bizarre combination of Inuit, Sami and Native American aesthetic
I don't know what to call this except 'Tumblr'
I don't why it infuriates me so much, but it does. The Starks are fucking white.
I don't think them being tired was accurate
I think they were just as disappointed as fans were. I know for a fact the Conleth Hill wasn't happy with his arc.
First, nobody cares. They are just there to make a natural disaster threat and nothing else. Outside of that they are 100% pointless inclusion that adds nothing to the story.
Second, way more character important threats have shown up that are far more interesting in the form of Euron who has connections to most of the major players n the setting and actually has plot relevance.
Celibatefag complaining about fictional characters having sex.
Your incel is showing anon.
No we won’t. He said she’s burning all his work and notes after he dies. They can’t do shit to him legally anyways.
He said she’s burning all his work and notes after he dies.
Just like how Christopher Tolkien said that Amazon isn't getting the rights after he dies?
Do you think he believes he's going to live and keep his wits for another 20 years or is he just leading people on knowing that he's going to die soon and won't have to finish the book?
It wasn't just the actors, it was costume department, camera crews etc. They don't make as much as actors.
Martin had a habit of starting "endless stories" that he never completed, as they did not turn out as well on paper as he had imagined them.
hes been doing this since he was a kid lmao
fat pink masts jutting into myrish swamps until her cunt became the world and milk dripped down coal-black nipples and mixed with the milk of the poppy while she grunted and shat and the more she guzzled arbor gold the more she shat until she was shitting brown water
Just Martin is way more interested in sex and political intrigue than magical warfare with ice elves so he gradually pushed back their importance as the books pressed on.
That's the actual answer. He does not give a shit about high fantasy magic shit and does not care if the audience does at all. He wants to show the REAL LIFE things of political skull duggery, backstabbing and people's bowl problems of the high middle ages. He either does not care about Others and their whole war situation, or thinks it's infantile and Danerys's shitting is vastly more important and hard-hitting drama to write about.
Assuming he dies first, and she isn't greedy. Money speaks very loudly and his next of kin after her are siblings.
muh fucking edgy Euron is more interesting than the others
lmao, let me guess. Ramsay is a interesting villain too eh? Having Alayne fuck dogs is edgy and deep lol.
2 more years bro. Trust the plan. I feel like he's been saying this for years.
It's because they're explicitly based off House York. There's no wiggle room for what ethnicity they should be, unlike what you see in more vague fantasy series.
There's absolutely no way for even the most colossal brainlet to interpret that as anything but a Northern English family.
That makes no fucking sense. Isn’t that their fucking profession? If they’re not doing it for another HBO project they’ll be doing it for some other studio.
It was well known back in 2002 that Someone somewhere was going to get some movie/tv rights to Tolkien works within minutes of Christopher dying. Everyone was very aware of that fact. The only question was how long would the world have to wait, and which studio would be the one to do it.
But we all knew goddamn well that the clock was ticking and eventually there would be some really extra shit, low budget fucking slop would eventually be made with the Lord of the Rings title stamped on it.
The books are excellent as a 13 year old. Now, 14 years later, I can see that the first three novels are the pinnacle of young adult fiction, the 4th and fifth are shit, and now it will never finish.
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this series is not getting finished
I don’t even disagree with you necessarily. The story has clearly expanded beyond George’s original outline. The Other’s are pretty boring (for now at least) and they’ve been pushed further and further back. Hell, Jon and Bran are two of my least favorite POV’s because of how fucking boring they are. Characters like Jamie and Theon are far more compelling and they have little to do with the Other’s plot. My point is that the setup is there. They clearly have some relevance to the story.
Would be a much more interesting twist if Martin pulls a Henry Kissenger and lives into his hundreds, despite what everyone everywhere believes or understands....while still never ever writing another word of Winds of Winter the entire time.
All the major plot points in S7 & S8 that everyone hated were his ideas and now hes wrote himself into such a big hole that he's just thrown the towel in
Hasn't he been elevated to the level of blue wizard with a full set of Valyrian steel armor, a horn that can enslave dragons, and a couple wizard slaves at this point?
poor dany shits herself to death out in the fields beyond mereen…
Nootka
Be very careful now.
Probably wrote a lot of dubious erotica involving his characters.
This is reminiscent of those old photos of chimps smoking a cigar.
Just having a fag, chill
he'll die before he finishes the books!
Yes, we know, no shit. Why must people post this every thread like it's some notable observation?
Why would that stop him when he already wrote incestual sex? The guy is a pervert and everyone with half a brain knows it.
The resemblance is uncanny
WRITE THE BOOKS YOU FAT FUCK
I like shitting on bookfags thinking they're superior when the books are full gaping flaws.
If one of George’s major plot points involve Tyrion telling Jon to gather a suicide squad to go get a wight for Cersei than maybe it’s for the better that he doesn’t finish because that shit was dumb.
are full gaping flaws.
Yeah, we can see why you don't favor reading.
Just Martin is way more interested in sex and political intrigue than magical warfare
Its sad how asoiaf has such cool lore yet the aesthetics.of the show were so bland and uninspired
The whitewalkers in the books sound cool as fuck and in the show they're so lame. Even the description of the armors used sound cool
I'm still waiting on the sequel to Storm Georgie
Lobstered steel plate
CD&N already revealed George told his close friends that he gave up. Everything he does now is to string along gullible retards into continue buying his meaningless lore books and mediocre adaptations
BREAKING: Lazy fat fuck who doesn't work confirms no work has been done
Yes yes, very good George
Link? Because I can't find it.
boiled leather jerkins and nipples on breastplates
Yeah but it’s been set up to be the most eventful. We’d be able to infer what the Dream of Spring ending would be and I don’t really feel like I need to read that part. I want Winds though.
Lets just be real. He refused to finish it, because there's a very hidden rule that all dragons must die. He's not allowed to let the targaryen rule the world. It's tale as old as time.
Despite what GRRM says, we will get WOW whether or not he finishes it before he dies. Probably Sandersons ADOS too
Torture George to death at his house in Santa Fe
Someone needs to shoop this hat on him
Fat rich boomer is lazy
Shocking
asoiaf has such cool lore
Share the spookiest lore/theories from asoiaf
deep ones
the others
what attacked Balerion
Asshai
Kill George
That hat belongs to House Codd.
Kermit, Grover and Elmo Tully
Stannis realizes he has to kill Shireen or himself to reforge the sword, kills himself. Jon uses the sword to kill Night's King, dies from the wounds.
Aegon Blackfyre marries Shireen and they rule Westeros.
Jaehaerys fucked his daughters and impregnated Gael. Alysanne suspected but refused to believe them until Gael got pregnant and killed herself.
First comment when scrolling down is a ponyfag
I'd rather him never finish them just to piss that fag off. Yes I am that petty.
Sanderson is a Mormon, and it reflects in his writing when it comes to any risque content like violence and sexuality, as well as an ubiquitous goal of ascending to godhood. He's able to slam out so many books because he writes in a very objective, clear-cut manner, and this extends into his worldbuilding, most obviously in his magic systems which are extremely blunt and rigidly defined. His writing is like a polished linoleum tile. It makes for very easy reading.
It's crystal clear he was planning to finish the story the same way as the TV series, but after seeing the backlash from it, he back pedalled and started to think about another, better ending, something he apparently can't come up with because he's now afraid of people's reaction to it, so he's been in a writer's block for years now
He doesnt need the money either way, and he likely would prefer another author takes the blame for making a shitty ending to his saga so he will die before ending it
Dragons still exist in other places. Particularly Asshai which is where Daenerys' eggs came from. They're just bets dragons compared the the dragons the Valerians raised.
dont worry, brandon sanderson will finish the series
Pretty sure those dorks over on the ASOIAF forums have planned out a more serviceable ending than he'd ever bother using.
stannisfags coping as usual
kek
alot of the background lore is as deep as puddle, much like Warhammer.
stannisfag
wants Stannis to kys
That's a BitterCHAD. Know your superiors.
also fat as whale
The Brindlemen and the green hell that stretches on forever were pretty cool. I like jungle horror.
Read Blood and Bone by Ian Esslemont
We will never get lore about anything past the Dothraki Sea and beyond
No lore about Sothoryos
Instead Arya sails East to potentially unknown lands in a world in which the known majority has not been explored at all
We will never know about the black stone which the Seastone Chair, the entire metropolis of Asshai, and others are made from
There are fucking harpies and other insane shit in this world's lore but he does absolutely nothing with it. It's just filler.
he won't kill shireen
Every time you point out he will, stannisfags REEEEEE lmao
I just want to know what's Marwin up to. And Jaqen, what is he doing pretending to be an incel scholar? Fat fuck should've at least told D&D where to take at least some of AFFC/ADWD storylines so that people who had invested their time into them won't feel as burnt out.
That is never confirmed
Technically the last canon event overall is Kevan getting shanked by Vary's pack of creepy child assassins. But Dany shitting herself silly is the last we see of her storyline in particular, so it's still properly humiliating of a conclusion.
I'm a stannisfag and I wouldn't mind if he kills Shireen to stop the others. Killing her to beat Boltons is shit though.
want to consume fan theory slop and play thrones mods
the mods are all half baked trash now and the remaining content creators all developed severe TDS
I should go check if More Bloodlines ever got updated again
What is euron gonna accomplish with his blood ritual?
is he gonna become a god like damphair saw in his dream?
It is literally states in the first books that the eggs are from The Shadow Lands which is East of Asshai.
Summoning a kraken.
Except we know that isn’t true you retard, those eggs were the ones that the lesbian stole and sold to pay for her fancy ship that she sailed West of Westeros and coincidentally ended up in Asshai in.
More likely it will backfire, he will die, and it will just leave The Reach devastated in some way. Making for a fun distraction and plot device to finally fuck up that overpowered region
He lifted his eyes and saw clear across the narrow sea, to the Free Cities and the green Dothraki sea and beyond, to Vaes Dothrak under its mountain, to the fabled lands of the Jade Sea, to Asshai by the Shadow, where dragons stirred beneath the sunrise.
Which is a retarded retcon and you know it.
Cope
HoD is shit and you are shit
The fun stuff is just window dressing.
He likes the political intrigue shit more.
He wrote himself into a massive series of corners and there is no fucking way to resolve it.
People like to say that, but it isn't really true. All he'd need to do would be to take a page out of Stephen King's playbook. When King wrote himself into a corner with The Stand, he just said "Fuck it" and let the protagonist's HQ explode to get things going again. Likewise Martin just needs to bring the Others in full force to blow up most of his roadblocks. He has that option, he just refuses to use it.
A fat cunt has no self-discipline? Shocking.
That wasn’t the house retcon you dummy, they tried to retcon it again and say that the three dragon eggs that were present at one point were the ones that were stolen and sold, which is in conflict with the theory predating hotd that the three eggs stolen and sold ended up with Dany.
So what. Lady Stoneheart isn't canon because she never happened in the show? What are you getting at here? GRRM himself was pissed about the War of the Dragons retcons. Both series had major character just not existing. The books are the source and thus the actual canon.
You know the lesbians are in the old supplemental lore, right? This “retcon” isn’t from any show.
nta, Lady Stoneheart sucks.
This is total headcanon and a fan theory. Illyrio had zero reason to lie.
Likewise Martin just needs to bring the Others in full force to blow up most of his roadblocks.
euron becoming a demigod
the whole oldtown plot
meereenese knot
lady stoneheart
The only thing a full blown other invasion would "fix" is the whole wall/north plotline and that is the least complex
She does but that isn't the point and you know it, fag.
Isn't this the gardener style of writing in full effect?
He make so many branching characters and plotlines and no good way to resolve it. Faggot was introducing new characters I had no interest in way too much. Probably a good thing it died and his legacy will end in disgrace
Again this theft shit is a fan theory. It has no actual basis much like the rest of the "theories" surrounding the eggs when it is literally states in the books that dragons ordinates from the Shadow Lands.
It doesn’t have to be a lie, it’s been like 250 years. Presumably their true origin had been forgotten or perhaps was intentionally obfuscated so it doesn’t get back to the fucking dragon lords that they have three of their eggs.
It’s been hundreds of years, and our story is fucking filled with inaccurate telling of historical events.
Why the fuck would dragons not still exist there when almost everyone but the insane avoid it because of demons and dragons? You make it sound like they were hunted to extinction despite being impossible or that the Valerians somehow made them all follow them. Bran saw the dragons himself and it was not implied to be in the past.
Bran saw the dragons in a present vision
he won't kill shireen
He will and it's gonna be based.
You guys could have just shut the fuck up and read
Who wasn't even me but a based individual none-the-less and now you have to eat your words.
Hated this bitch, they've turned my pure waifu into scheming floozy.
lady stoneheart gets eaten by the others
meereen gets eaten by the others
oldtown gets eaten by the others
euron is actually the night king, so he's already part of the others
there
silksong is here
deltarune is here
I BELIEVE
DOUBT NO MORE
Why the fuck would dragons not still exist there when almost everyone but the insane avoid it because of demons and dragons?
It's literally a radioactive wasteland where few natives still live. It's not the only location in-universe that is avoided because it is dangerous while what truly makes the area dangerous remains something of a mystery.
You make it sound like they were hunted to extinction despite being impossible or that the Valerians somehow made them all follow them
You're operating under the assumption that dragons were actually from the Shadowlands. This just devolves into the whole Great Empire of the Dawn theory and is a whole can of worms to get into.
Bran saw the dragons himself and it was not implied to be in the past.
I'll have to read that part again.
You can easily interpret this as a descriptor of the region (as in reminding the reader about this place we never see) and not that Bran is literally seeing dragons.
Somehow George Martin returned...