Europeans unironically thought walking slowly in a straight line towards the enemy was a good military strategy

I have a hard time imagining battlefields, not only from that time period, but from all time periods, because Hollywood messed with my perception.

I cannot account for the cultural mindset that mixes desire to conquer, fear of being dead, following orders, all that going along with the chaos of the battlefield. I can picture a one on one samurai duel, but how the fuck did thousands of men on one side and thousands on the other clash?

Watch Waterloo (1970)

words only mean one thing

So were they Aryan or Iranian?

That's like asking

were they English or were they Anglo?

Hitler called the English aryans, debate over

You have that backwards.

Hitler also smoked a lot of meth and has serious mental instabilities. He was a charming retard, but a retard nonetheless. Mussolini's biggest mistake was hitching Fascism's cart to Germany's schizo horse.

How did they even conquer the world like this?

Kinda easy when everyone else's military strategy is painting dicks on their naked body and chucking spears shouting "YOLOLOLOLOLOLO".
European strategies evolved from the time their square formations were equipped with shields and halberds, they didn't have to seriously rethink it until they had to fight large scale wars against each other and even then it took some time.

he played his role, we like to blame him so much we never talk about the English ((bankers))

The Aryan people don't exist anymore.

Yes, fighting in a disciplined, drilled line where there was a mass of concentrated fire, cohesion for maneuver and formation and identification is in fact a sound thing
That's how the terrifically outnumbered Europeans managed to conquer your whole subcontinent ranjeet

Correct, but germanics are their closest living descendants.

Not to mention cavalry was the real hero of every battlefield and being able to form into squares was the only way infantry could survive a cavalry charge. People are so ignorant about these things

check em

if this makes whites retarded then what does that make the rest of the world kek

Fuck that. All my ancestors came from Germany, Switzerland, and England, and I don't identify as some Iranian sandnigger.

God you're so stupid

this retard has obviously never played empire total war

Ayrans originated in roughly what is modern Ukraine.

White people are actually brown mud people!

okay schizo

source: a Khazar told you (he made it up)

Because brown people live in a place now that means they always have

What's it like thinking hannibal was black because he was born in africa?

soldiers did some pretty brave things when you were still allowed to pillage towns after a victory.

Actually I do have a question, why was there never any urgency when the lines were moving?
I get the whole lines thing is to avoid routs and firing for effect but why did they never move on the double whenever they were under fire?

CAUCASIANS are from the CAUCASUS Mountains (i.e. Russia and Georgia), retards

Set-piece battles were a thing for a long time already. And death in battle was 15-20% of deaths, most died of disease.
The guns were inaccurate and took ages to reload, so you rely on volley fire for mass damage and stay in line for protection.
Also, they would CHARGE after shooting a volley or two, then it's stabbing time.
French were actually the most disciplined of the era, because Napoleon was a badass inspiration, and because after the revolution, all of Europe was desperate to stop the French before their own people got the idea and murdered them.

and slavs aren't White

Marching together was necessary for coordination. If they were scattered all over the battlefield, there was no way to maintain unit cohesion and have orders reach everyone quickly. It's not like they had radios back then

move while under fire

They didn't show fear like that.

Your brilliant soldiers spread out and take cover in the bushes, ditches, behind the trees, firing of haphazard shots at the advancing mass of enemy.

Suddenly, a bugle sounds. It's the enemy hussars! They swarm in on your spread out soldiers, hunting them down like so many rabbits. What doesn't get cut down runs off to the forest - that's what 20th century guerillas would do!

Quite the avant guarde general you are. While your soldiers were running away, your grain cart got captured. Night falls, temperature drops. Enemy squares form a camp, light huge bonfires, feasting on your supplies, with their own left unused in the middle of the fortification. You watch how stupidly they engorge themselves, knowing that you're one brilliant raid from finishing them off. If only those pesky cavalrymen stopped roaming the countryside for few hours! Do they work in shifts?

MUST WATCH THE PATRIOT AND BOOT UP EMPIRE TOTAL WAR!!!

The whole "Slavs aren't white" thing comes from the Central Asian Huns and Mongols invading the region throughout the 400s-1200s. AD. We're talking about the 1800-1500 BC Aryan migration here. That's like saying Cappadocians weren't white because Turks currently inhabit Anatolia, or that Romulus and Remus were niggers because their moms were raped by Moors

So did they not have shield technology or what

Turn to page 15 if you scout out the enemy camp
Turn to page 76 if you wait until morning

You know we have eyeballs and can see what slavic people look like?
They're very clearly not western and northern European looking (from the centuries of mud monster rape). Slave also comes from slav you fucking subhuman retard

Greeks aren't White, either. Only Germanics are White, and we evolved that trait just a few thousand years ago as an adaptation to lower light levels in the North. We are the end stage of humanity; all others must bow to us. And we aren't fucking Iranian or Ukrainian.

i can smell your post

Are you fucking retarded? Did you even read a single word I said? Do you have any idea what we're talking about? I can't even imagine being as stupid as you

To keep time and keep formation. You guys have no idea how important discipline and drill were if you start falling out of line by going too fast in weird ways everything gets fucked up and you're open to a cavalry charge from horses just off to the side waiting for that shit to happen

He literally said that

Greeks (and Italians) are clearly superior to Germanics though. So what does it matter if you're white if you're clearly not the master race?

doesn't capitalize White

you are brown

look up what the French doctrine until post WW2 was

yeah, his sentence structure is just the most retarded way possible

you wouldn't not do this, right?

Julius described as light eyes, Augustus as light hair, Alexander as tawny hair

White isn't a proper noun, it's a fucking color. It's called being grammatically correct, ESL

capitalizes Italian

doesn't capitalize White

very telling

seethe brownie

Julius Caesar? The guy from Rome who conquered and enslaved the Gauls? You think he was Germanic, and didn't despise Germanics as mudhut barbarians? Literally wrote a whole book about how backwards Germanics were? I've never heard this cope before, did it drop just recently?

Italy is a place. White is a color. Do you also capitalize "purple"? If you want to be capitalized so fucking bad, just call yourself Caucasian or Aryan

But surely stuff like cannon fire necessitated some haste?
I admit I'm mostly speaking of Sharpe which I've just watched recently and it may have been a really shit depiction but I found it really weird how they'd just slowly march into volleys or when under artillery fire.

apastyle.apa.org/style-grammar-guidelines/bias-free-language/racial-ethnic-minorities

Racial and ethnic groups are designated by proper nouns and are capitalized.

unironically using this DEI race theory shit as a citation

Nah you can keep your tranny propaganda

Sharpe's pretty accurate about certain details you can trust that if it's in there, it happened atleast once in a real battle. Artillery is handled by cavalry and sometimes counter artillery, the infantry kind of has to just eat it. In most battles before napoleon armies didn't have tons of cannons, so it was just something you had to deal with

Italians are DEI and are not White.

You literally cited an article with the words "problematic", "Latinx", and "transgender and gender nonconforming people" in it. You're gone from this discussion. I know you have Reddit open in the next tab, go back over there

It's the APA style guide, retard. You are definitely an ESL foreigner.

It's the DEI tranny guide

Yeah, no shit, retard

non-American has never heard of the APA

You are Indian.

How can you justify citing an article that unironically uses words like problematic and Latinx? Explain that to me. You do realize that this isn't Reddit, right?

kek i'd probably fall pretending i was hit.

How can you justify using an American website while being completely ignorant of basic American institutions like the APA? Grammar isn't set in stone. Either you're a descriptivist and believe that grammar is decided by common usage, in which case White should be capitalized, or you're a prescriptivist and believe institutions such as the APA get to decide what is grammatically correct, in which case White should be capitalized. Either way, you're wrong.

In most battles before napoleon armies didn't have tons of cannons

Almost every major European campaign fought between major European powers starting at around the early-mid 1500s had tons of cannons
It was literally the Age of Sail you tard. That's like 250 years before Napoleon who wasn't even around until after the French Revolution

you're a descriptivist and believe that grammar is decided by common usage, in which case White should be capitalized

No one capitalizes white but you though. The APA is clearly compromised by tranny rhetoric so why the fuck would I care that they insist on capitalizing black and white? They also insist on calling Latinos "Latinx". And why do you listen to them? How are you not utterly embarrassed? I guess anything is possible when you have negative self-awareness

jewish people start running France and England around this time

tells white soldiers to slowly walk into gunfire

Really makes you think

Everyone on the White Nationalist forums I use capitalizes "White." You must mostly use Hindu-language websites, so you don't know what you're talking about, poojeet

No they did not have tons of cannos on battlefields in 1500 lol you fucking idiot

capitalizing "nationalist" as well

Yeah, nationalist isn't a proper noun either, you ESL retard. By the way, why do you refer to Latinos as "Latinx"? Is it because the APA told you to?

White Nationalist forums

Name 5.

Shut the fuck up, tranny.

Nice try, fedboy.
Every single day I come on this website just to be accused of not being an American by some coping third worlder, and it never fails to make me laugh.

Nice try, fedboy.

So you can't name them?

gets accused of being ESL

thinks he's being accused of being non-American

Fucking kek. I have no doubt you're an Amerimutt, don't worry

he's admitting to being a third worlder

lmao
Do your own work, glownigger.

Every single day I come on this website just to be accused of not being an American by some coping third worlder, and it never fails to make me laugh.

America is the only first world nation. Cope + seethe Ahmed.

They didn’t even realize this was a bad idea until Napoleon.

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America is the only first world nation. Cope + seethe Ahmed.

Yeah, it started even earlier you retard. Did they just keep the cannons on boats and shit? lol

1492

He devoted France's resources to building up a large army, including one of Europe's first siege trains with artillery

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_VIII_of_France

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What game please?

This reminds me of when I start being racist to the pajeet scam callers and they start saying anti-Indian stuff as some kind of next-level cope. You're not fooling anyone, Rajesh.

Dark souls

If the line falls apart everything goes to shit. Where the hell do you think marching comes from? They had drummers to keep the rhythm of the steps so everyone kept standing exactly shoulder to shoulder because that's the most effective way to do volley fires.

Empire Total War from the game Empire Total War
store.steampowered.com/app/10500/Total_War_EMPIRE__Definitive_Edition/

"First world" literally just means "America and our allies." Since the rest of the world has turned their backs on us, we have no allies, and therefore we are the only first world nation.

Thanks

Absolute retards. just because you can build a bunch of cannons in total war doesn't mean they really had that many on the battlefield

How did they even conquer the world like this?

Better weapons than your enemies, simple as

This reminds me of when I start being racist to the pajeet scam callers and they start saying anti-Indian stuff as some kind of next-level cope. You're not fooling anyone, Rajesh.

Yeah, enjoy your crime-ridden, drug-addled, economic recession "first world" shithole, retard

Yes they did. I was there. Were you?

And better tactics, better supply coordination, better intelligence etc...

start year in empire is the late 1700s I think so you're retarded in history and vidya

Enjoy being arrested for not paying your TV license or for possessing a spork that's too sharp lol

I don't use video games as historical records so I think I'm ahead of you in terms of scholarship by a country mile, lol. I know its a cliche but may I suggest reading a book?

What book

i wonder how many people "got shot" and just laid there until it was time to clean up

Red Riding Hood

doesn't deny living in a crime-ridden drug-addled economic recession shithole

lol

Morons thinking guerilla tactics are a good war strategy can't fathom the idea of an enemy who considers everyone of your people legit targets.

There are two options in a situation where both sides just want to annihilate each other.
Open field battles and sieges.

So Charles 13 uses them successfully in war then they just magically forget how to use cannon in battle until Napoleon like 300 years later?
Sounds legit

thought

doesn't deny living in a despotic nanny state hellhole with no freedoms and no money and no car and no food where less than 1% of the population own the land their homes are built on

kek

Most of the ones who got shot duh, it's not like they had field medics.

This is an embarrassing death spiral, painful to watch

That's a very colorful description of the United States

They kicked your brown ass with that strategy, bro.

I am white thoughever.

2/3rds of Americans own their own homes. England is a nation of renters. Even the ones who own the building have to lease the land.

You don't own a home. You live in your mother's house. You also don't own a car either

Again with the third worlders excuses, we are just better at war, get over it

dumb Bongistani resorts to concocting wild fantasies during a discussion of objective facts

kek, I accept your concession

we

Internet flamewars are not real wars, little bro.

runs out of arguments and resorts to regurgitating "I-I accept your concession" for the thousandth time

Zero shame

thousandth time

Please direct me to where I said this before. Oh, that's right, you can't, because it's yet another fantasy you've created in your mind lmao

There are two options in a situation where both sides just want to annihilate each other

Open field battles and sieges.

What if you just turn the power and water off big brain? I'm sure inner city nogs will behave themselves even better without that

Heavy armoured cavalry rides up to you and blasts you with a hand gun then rides away

What do?

Big formations gotta move slow or they lose cohesion.

It may be a sound strategy for commanders but the men participating in it are retarded. Literally marching to your death is npc behaviour.

This film was actually a technical work for filming outdoors and away from sets. It was one of the first to use cameras that could film in natural light, hence the large wide shots.

Then why are they such failed states today?

What else are you going to do without a radio? The Chinese used flags but you cannot see those very far.

nta but Ancient Greeks and Italians are almost nothing like they are now

iranians are like 20 percent indo european ("aryan") at best, the average european is like 30-50 percent on average

Italy and Greece are not failed states. They're less prosperous than Germanic countries, but they're still first world countries, just on the lower end. You should know that "failed state" is a very specific geopolitical term that refers to a total collapse in government. Syria is a failed state; Italy and Greece are nowhere close. And just because Italy and Greece are currently washed up, that doesn't invalidate the incredible heights they once reached. While Germanics were building mudhuts, Meds were building the Colosseum and the Parthenon

first world countries

see:

i mean they faked it because they didnt want to keep marching to their death like idiots

See yourself into a noose, mutt

Not an argument, brainlet. My logic is flawless and irrefutable.

It's a strategy of concentrated fire you baboon. Muskets weren't as powerful so you needed to fire at a perfect distance in concentrated volley. If you fire too early your army won't have the time to respond do the devastating concentrating volley of your enemy. It was also first conceived of by chinese and used by Ottomans in the 16th century at battle of Mohacs

There's clearly a difference between Italy and Syria in terms of development and prosperity, moron, which is why we have separate categories to define their levels of development. Words exist for a reason. Language doesn't bend around your fragile little feelings

"First world" is not a term that denotes development. It refers to geopolitical alignment, and nothing else.

Rifles didn’t have so they still had to get very close, antiquated ideas about honor and chivalry, battles were more like duels
Also wars were won at sea, so infantry was more of a side mission to the real game

how did they conquer the world

Everyone else did the same but with sticks and stones, euros had cannons

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