Has there ever been a better example of contemporary sci-fi aesthetics than Stargate?
Has there ever been a better example of contemporary sci-fi aesthetics than Stargate?
thats just battlestar galactica
SG1 predates BSG04, also Galactica isn't exactly contemporary, but even then I think Stargate did it better
yes The Expanse
How is this contemporary?
contemporary
christ guys, just google it if you don't know what it means
It's contemporary
Contemporary response
Stargate is set in [current day] when it was made/aired. The technology BC-304 is an example of a ship designed in the (at the time) current day by the SGC.
i know what complementary means.
it's like contemplating, only hypothetical.
Is GOOLD technology contemporary?
the expanse has the most realistic ships
Yeah that's true, I don't necessarily care about realism here though. I just think Stargate's aesthetics were peak. "Spaceship designed by a guy who makes aircraft carriers" as the flagship of the US military is fun.
Your trips are contemporary.
Nice.
Thanks for clearing that up Satan
When Amazon inevitably drags its corpse out of cold storage to ruin it, what do you think the overall design language will be? I'm betting on 100% boring flat apple store aesthetics just like modern Star Trek.
Would current US MIC even be a able to built BC-304s even of they had access to the tech for them?
lolno
But in universe, IIRC I think the 304 was built with a lot of help from the Asgard and possibly the Tok'ra as well? I might be remembering wrong, but they definitely struggled to get there, the Prometheus had a long history as a barely-functioning piece of crap stapled together with whatever they could get their hands on that week.
The Daedalus is a pretty kino ship, one can't deny this
F-302 is not bad either
I guess technically that's the X-302, not sure if there was significant design changes between that and the final version.
Remember when things were fun and crowd pleasing and sometimes you gave the audience what they wanted
Sometimes, sure, spurn your audience, but there was a time when we were allowed to have ships with beam weapons and teleporting nukes onto other ships and planets blowing up and big stupid gates in space with big stupid space battles
with big stupid space battles
Actually one of the things I always liked about Stargate is usually their big stupid space battles weren't completely fucking stupid. It wasn't like hard sci-fi military tactics or anything, but there was actually some thought put into it most of the time. Shit like the fact that the humans thought "hey why don't we just fucking teleport a nuke into their fuel tank" but the reason they couldn't always just do that was because Hermiod didn't like committing war crimes.
Giving the audience what they want is fascism, chud.
the Prometheus had a long history as a barely-functioning piece of crap stapled together with whatever they could get their hands on that week.
And it was wonderful. The 304s were peak aesthetics, but it was cheesy and stupid that they destroyed Prometheus and then next week "ok guise here's the Odyssey have fun"
Contemporary
Anon this shit is over twenty years old
I was honestly really surprised they kept the Prometheus around and active as long as they did considering all the issues it had. Makes sense when you consider how slow it was for them to churn out ships in the beginning, but man imagine being the officer given command of that thing while someone else gets to cruise around in a BC-304.
Based contemporary retard
Characters need a futuristic gun for their sci fi adventure
It carries a 50-round, top-loading magazine of Teflon-coated ordnance with a cyclical rate of fire of 900 rounds per minute.
It really was a stroke of genius choosing that as their main weapon of choice.
I thought the reason they couldn't was because the wraith figured out how to jam the teleporter signal. Also, who voiced Hermoid in his like 2 appearances? Was it that autistic science chick they tried to meme?
I think they did figure out how to jam the signal after they pulled the nuke trick a few times, but like that as a general answer for why the humans weren't just pulling that shit constantly, "our chaperone said no" is pretty funny.
Was it that autistic science chick they tried to meme?
Not sure who you mean, wiki says Trevor Devall
Not sure who you mean
Dr. Novak. She was a quirky chungus girl who was immediately tiresome. Her first quirk was getting space hiccups in the SG-1 episode where Vala is introduced.
Also checked
oh yeah, her. Nah.
Triple trips for Stargate
'tis an omen
Utilitarian aesthetics are kino
been ripping through Star Trek DS9 - do I watch Stargate next or Babylon 5 or neither
Babylon 5 was terrible, I watched 3 seasons to see why it's constantly sucked off by sci fi fans and it was just fucking WoW lore. Try Stargate, I really liked the movie but couldn't get into the series simply because I personally couldn't get into the whole Space Egypt thing.
I like how Musk is trying to make his space suits look they came straight out of Mass Effect. Have we reached a point where aesthetics can actually be considered?
I second that other anon, babylon 5 is shit. stargate is kino though
BSG is from 1979. They totally ripped off the design with the twin fighter bays.
I personally couldn't get into the whole Space Egypt thing
They more or less completely forget the space Egypt thing by Season 3 when they run out of Egyptian gods and switch to Greek. And then the Goa'uld become old hat and they introduce replicators.
B5 is either total garbage or some of the best written and acted television ever made, with nothing in between. It's like the biggest fluctuation in quality of anything I've watched
Watch Stargate, and do yourself a favor and look up the chronological watch order someone put together. Experiencing the SG1/Atlantis overlap in the way they originally aired is something special.
I want to give B5 a chance and I usually don't mind low budget but pic related looks fucking ridiculous. If he's one of the main characters I don't think I can do it.
meant for of course, my bad
I haven't gotten around to B5 yea, but honestly that's not much dumber than the Romulans being bowl cut elves with huge 80s shoulderpad sweaters.
That's not even close to what complementary means, and complementary isn't even the word OP used.
not much
Why is it teflon coated? And do they really refer to ammo as 'ordinance'?
I love how the Tauri's first shot at a space fighter was
hey shitasses, we took your death gliders, strapped some nukes and machine guns to them and jammed a hyperdrive in there.
If I recall that came about because Peter Jurasik put the wig on upside down during rehearsal and the look stuck
It's a crest to denote status, it's supposed to be like those big Napoleonic hats. Other centauri in modern times have smaller reasonably-sized ones, Londo's is huge because he wants to cling on to the old ways of the republic
Londo is the best part of the show and if you can ignore the centurion hairdo he's got a deep character arc of ambition, wounded pride, and disappointment at getting what he thinks he wants. For me B5 is ruined by the horrible effects; OG Star Trek I can overlook the plywood sets and crappy lasers, but idk I think that 1st gen cgi is just some uncanny valley.
Did a Goa'uld death glider ever actually land a single substantial hit with its forward cannons at any point in the series? They just seemed like A-10's with no real weaponry. What was the point?
inb4 "that is a weapon of terror, this is a weapon of war"
they turned a machine of terror into a MACHINE OF WAR
Why is it teflon coated?
reduces barrel wear in sustained fire applications
>inb4 "that is a weapon of terror, this is a weapon of war"
FUGG
kek
YOU CAN'T JUST TAKE A DEATHGLIDER AND SLAP A US AIRFORCE STICKER ON IT
That's where you're wrong Tok'ra.
Actually their first shot at a space fighter was slapping a couple stickers on the death gliders they stole from Apophis and going
WE WUZ SPACE PILOTS N SHEEIT
until the lowjack kicked in and sent them on a one way trip into deep space.
I'm sad the franchise died before we got to see more from the Tauri after the BC-304 refits. Carrying the existing designs over into something designed from the ground up by humans after getting their hands on the Asgard repository would've been cool to see.
I promise you youll end up loving him and his stupid hair cut
Londo is literally Anon Babble
That was a completely successful test flight. Both pilots returned safely and lots of valuable data was collected.
Well yeah of course, I'm counting first as the first one they ACTUALLY built lol.
Jack is possibly the most based character in history. Always loved how he was so done with the tok'ra's shit right from go willing to call them out on being useless fucking assholes.
such a great lil movie and comfy series franchise. just well-written fun stuff.
NTRs ur tok'ra waifu
Sir I think it's time you dialed one on the old speed dial.
My granddaughters?
The forward cannons being fixed in place so you have to maneuver the entire craft to aim is dumb, but they were never meant to face anything in air-to-air combat except other gliders in big performative showy battles between system lords for territory
In the show they really liked using the "team runs on foot from death gliders as a chain of big explosions trail behind them but miss" type shot
Jack is possibly the most based character in history
Not even the most based on the show, see . Honorable mention to Teal'c for getting with a white girl every time he got to write an episode.
okay Chris you can write an episode
Find that chick who plays T'Pol because she's my love interest
Absolute madman.
Okay fair enough, nobody can outbase the Hamhawk.
perfect casting, dude LOOKED like some alien-bred human warrior caste no prosthetics necessary just a freakish lookin dude.
Jaffa tongue my Chappa'ai
ReArm Tau'ri
It's great how believable it was that the SGC managed to BTFO the system lords so hard, because it was always just a case of
big dumb retards who haven't had to deal with anything other than dirt farmers and their pissed off siblings for thousands of years learn how creative humans can get with ways to kill things
They send a few dozen jaffa with staffs and maybe a couple death gliders to try to take out a single SG team
Hammond orders a missile strike through the gate and heads home by 5 to play with his grandkids.
The fantastic writing will make you overlook the goofiness really quick, its some of the best science fiction I've ever seen, trust me
The shield generators are far below. There, in the very bowels of the ship. We must climb down several decks, through the length of the ship. Then, taking our weapons, we must…
i fucking love stargate like you wouldn't believe it
looks way freakier these days, dude needs to lay off the plastic surgery
Based.
I love Hammond so much.
written by Christopher Judge
youtube.com
dead friend shows up to tell him he has to stop space satan
immediately gets petty about it
filtered
Jack, may I share something with you? A vision I had in my sleep last night — distinguished from a dream which is mere sorting and cataloging of the day's events by the subconscious. This was a vision, fresh and clear as an event horizon — the mind revealing itself to itself. In my vision, I was on the deck of a vast starship, a bridge of some fantastic proportion. There seemed to emanate from it a light from within — this gleaming radiant trinium. I had known this ship. It had in fact been named after me. This was my first return, a reunion with the deepest wellsprings of my being. Wandering about, I was happy that the ship had been immaculately maintained. There had been added a number of additional decks, but in a way it blended so seamlessly with the original construction, one would never detect any difference. Returning to the ship's bridge, there came a knock at the hatch. You and Sam were standing there. you were both happy and care-free together, clearly living a life of deep harmony and joy. We embraced — a warm and loving embrace, nothing withheld. We were in this moment one. My vision ended. I awoke with a tremendous of optimism and confidence in you and Sam, and your future. That was my vision; it was of you. I'm so glad to have had this opportunity to share it with you. I wish you nothing but the very best, always.
They annihilated advanced civilizations that were a threat, and earth in alternate timelines. The Goold only got nerfed into retards later on. I hate when this is done like the Borg in trek. Enemies should be a real threat, not cartoon villains.
if Anubis gathers all six infinity eyes
Garland Briggs just relocated into the Stargate bunker.
his characters in stargate, twin peaks and xfiles might just be the same dude.
I personally love how when they cast Tony Amendola as Bra'tac, the makeup department took one look at him and went "don't do anything, he already looks 140 years old, he's perfect"
I can't believe he was only 46 when they case him. Younger than RDA lmao
*cast
He got hit by the acne fairy brutally hard
Babylon 5 is great.
The Goold weren't actually retarded, but they were woefully unprepared for dealing with an enemy as resourceful as Jack and his band of merry psychopaths. The main difference between the main timeline humans and the ones that got wrecked in all those other dimensions we see is that they managed to get lucky and learn what was coming, and just barely survived long enough for big daddy Thor to come to their rescue. Once the humans managed to get their hands on some decent tech and start arming rapidly, it was all over because the worms lost their main advantage.
Hammond seemed to have the comfiest role on the show. Show up, deliver the same lines you've rehearsed and delivered a hundred times, repeat. Character is universally liked and for his limited role he delivered quite well.
Plus even from the beginning the main danger and 'strength' of the goa'uld was their fleet and starships.
Their ground forces and small unit tactics were always crap even from the start of the series.
But that makes sense for a species that's spent thousands of years primarily focused on starships for actual military might while their ground forces are glorified gladiators and slave overseers.
Plus the goa'uld themselves seemed to have a sort of 'nobles privilege' thing going on where they preferred to capture, ransom, and torment one another rather than just raiding and killing as efficiently as possible.
There's a reason RDA basically requested the same deal when he wanted to step back and spend more time with his family.
He got so damn fat in that time period. Lmao. Maybe he had it all figured out already
oh shit there's parallel dimensions? i only watched a few shows..
speaking of parallel dimension, seen this Counterpart? its cold war kino
I like how Musk is trying to make his space suits look they came straight out of Mass Effect.
I like how his suits make it look like the astronauts are wearing black go-go boots like a bunch of fucking queers. That's aesthetic in a dick-sucking kind of way. They look like those hairy faggots dancing to the Stephen Colbert "Vax-Scene" sketch.
Somewhere out there is a Sam that loves me for me.
Only in one episode in season 1 through a strange mirror device that never appears again
Other alternate earths appear later through time travel/wormhole fuckery but they don't matter in the grand scheme of things
strange mirror device that never appears again
Also shows up in the season 3 episode Point of View when longhair Sam and Kawalsky come through from another universe to our universe.
Hammond mentions having the mirror destroyed afterwards to avoid similar fuckery occurring again.
for me it's the UNN battleships
Qrd on Counterpart? Is it procedural?
protected planets treaty
specifically excludes technological intervention
asgard follow this to a self-sabotaging degree, while Goa'uld skirt it at every turn
oh nooo they threw a huge asteroid at this protected planet, sorry we can't help because rocks are made of dirt and shit
Ungrateful little grey monkeys
excludes
Forbids
same
Yeah but the Asgard are the side of the treaty that's bluffing and can't actually back up their threats. They don't want to push their luck.
Expanse was so good. It'll be decades before another space sci-fi series comes close.
It's moreso "alternate timelines" but they do crop up a good amount and do have relevance to the plot. Mobius is like 3 different timelines and it's how Atlantis gets a zpm.
Actually the main difference is that the prime timeline excells in diplomacy, and all the early victories against the Goa'uld were due to Earth's interstellar allies.