Eastern media

>Eastern media

>Demons are irredimably evil and must be purged to protect mankind.

You're retarded for thinking that Eastern media is any better than Western media in this regard. Almost every other Japanese product has an outwardly atheistic, anti-god, anti-religion theme. They may be otherwise "based", but Japs (and Koreans, to a lesser extent) are undeniably reddit atheists. And don't even fucking get me started on China

Demons can can suck it.

It’s more interesting when villains have somewhat sympathetic motivations. I’m not a baby BAD GUY BAD is boring

Why isn’t bro bothered by this at all

Demons were also assholes in Devilman, it's just that everyone was an asshole too

Why is it better?

I wanna fuck this stupid evil twink

Before or after he becomes a tranny?

Because it tests my principles and belief systems. Would I do the same thing if I was in the villains shoes? What would make me act in such a way?

The essence of storytelling is conflict and challenging the protagonist. Having a nuanced ideological conflict adds another dimension to the protagonist's struggle. They don't just have to physically struggle against the antagonist now; they have to struggle with their own morals and doubts as to whether or not their struggle is even justified in the first place

demons=arabs

Kinda of brave decision, really, especially after the whole orcs=blacks kerfuffle. Maybe in the future we will get aliens=latinos or giant space bugs=asians.

Definitely before. His "muh intersex" Satan form is cringe and was just the writer's way of downplaying the blatant faggotry for fear of backlash

t. Akira

NOOO NOT THE HECKIN GUD BOI DEMONS!!!

Eastern media loves demons, just more of a "they're cool as hell" angle than using it for some dogshit political take.

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But Debilman!

Demons literally drove humans to the edge by showing Akira transforming.
This ain't Demons good, humans bad. The demons are psychos. It was showing humans at their worst. Not "Oh man, those poor demons as the US invades hell!"

Director wants to show that demons are poor victims like the muslims getting bombed by the US

What literally everyone thought seeing the invasion scene was "holy shit, muslims are demons, they must be purged!"

demons as metaphor for refugees

Americans actually started Al-Queda

How so

Well, they gave them weapons and training to help them fight off Russia

So why do they hate us?

Well, you see, we left. And stopped giving them money.

What? They got made because we left and stopped giving them money?

Yeah, so they bombed the world trade center twice.

Because we stopped paying them?

Yes, thats why we deserve it.

The prophet Muhammad is a homosexual

Eastern media

Demons are irredimably evil and must be purged to protect mankind.

I mean, overall I would say overall Yokai/eastern monsters are more often portrayed in a positive way in eastern media than western, that's why western hacks think they are ''subverting our expectation'' by making them good.

that said fuck Netflix for making DMC demons ''did nothing wrong ''. I hate this trope so fucking much and it's even worse than when castlevania did the same

Why does Netflix make animu? Isn't this cultural appropriation?

Mundus dindu nuffin

t. Netflix

It honestly warms my heart to see woke billion dollar corporations like Netflix pandering to former edgy teens, resurrecting buttrock soundtracks, practically bending over backwards to appeal to me personally, and not giving a single fuck about it. What a rush.

cast him

they allow it with anime because anime is still a pipleline to becomiing a tranny

>Demons are misunderstood victims, humans are the real monsters

eastern media does this just as often as western media

they've never done this

uhhh this guy

Ghibli is famous for this shit.
Tho they call them "spirits", because in Japan everything supernatural is a spirit.

I can't think of any examples off the top of my head, but I can think of many examples of Japanese media with anti-religion themes. Which is the exact same shit as "demons are actually the good guys"

ghibli has never portrayed humans as being worse than the yokai though

even in princess mononoke which was very preachy they don't treat humans as evil, just that their justified actions have negative consequences for somem, but that's fine

religion bad is not the same as demons good

They are trying to make people not care about anime by paying for woke anime. They did so with comics and tv shows. You must always think about Trump and how White men are evil. No matter if its in cartoons, comics, anime, games or board games. Only literal porn is free of propaganda

Demons are misunderstood victims

Sounds like someone on the writing team thinks Demons and Monsters are interchangeable terms.

DOOM did it better

It's not the same, but it comes from the same line of thinking; i.e. a smug postmodern contempt towards traditional Western morality. I don't seen any meaningful difference

but it comes from the same line of thinking

it doesn't

Elfen Lied = humans le bad
Attack on Titans = Humans le bad
Claymore = Humans le bad
Any story with robots and humans = humans le bad
Any story with talking anthros and humans = human le bad

Only literal porn is free of propaganda

I hope they come for that too. Every pornstar must have "BLM" tattooed on her ass; every hentai artists draw trans flags in the background

Wow, it's like the demons are making the media or something...

pray tell, which of these were made by studio ghibli?

not actually attempting to have a discussion, just saying "wrong" over and over

I'll go ahead and save both our times and accept your concession

you're the one making shit up as if it proves a point

So what do you think is the subtextual reason behind sympathetic depictions of demons then? Why do writers do it?

name one instance of japan doing it

bombing the shit out of hell

Damn that's actually pretty rad

NOOO, the heckin' innocent demon children and civilians!!!!

Never mind

We're not talking about Japan, retard

yes we are

Western media has pro-demon themes. Japanese media has anti-Christianity themes. I'm saying that these both come from the same line of thinking, because it's common sense. You're saying it doesn't, because you're retarded. End of discussion

demons are brown people

Damn, brown people are literally demons.

you said that eastern media did demons as misunderstood victims more often than western media
you did not say that eastern media did religion bad themes more often than western media

in asia, yes

I never said that. I said

I can't think of any examples off the top of my head, but I can think of many examples of Japanese media with anti-religion themes. Which is the exact same shit as "demons are actually the good guys"

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You're confusing me with someone else

I think we're missing the forest for the trees with this.

This "Humans are bwad, Demons good" doesn't fit in DMC, specifically in its execution. There are good demons in DMC, but few have awoken to justice. A part of the story is Dante embracing his humanity, and Vergil embracing his demon side.

It's especially not a blatant criticism for early 2000s American politics.
DMC is a wahoo pizza and humanity.

no i'm not, i responded to your post

Leftoid writers

It's more interesting to explore how someone can enjoy being evil and selfish against all odds, rather than coughing up some generic pish posh noble sob story all the time

go to demon city

wtf there’s demons here

me when i get deployed in the middle east

You've got the wrong guy

tell me why you felt the need to include yourself in a conversation you didn't belong

There’s literally ONE (1) good demon in the DMC games and that’s Sparda. Dante/Nero and kinda Vergil don’t count because they’re part human. I guess Trish sort of, but she’s more a creation of a demon than a demon herself.

They always hated the west, but they’d take any help they could get against the Russians. Now all that’s left is the west to fight.

Autism is the causal factor of transgenderism.

It's a public forum, cunt. You said something I disagreed with so I responded

everything good bad

everything bad good

Subversion isn't nuance by default. There are many ideological challenges you can write out besides the same lazy "WE'RE NOT SO DIFFERENT, YOU AND I" cop out. Selfish, shitty people exist, and they should be allowed to be depicted as such without having excuses made for them or their behavior. If everyone thought like you we'd never have gotten movies like American Psycho or Silence of the Lambs.

and anime attracts autists

i can tell your mother regretted giving birth to you

You're generalizing and strawmanning

You've got to be genuinely mentally ill if you think that's a proportionate response

Japanese anti-Christian themes date back to oda nobunaga in the sengoku period, as he forcibly converted his subjects to a “good enough” bastardization of Christianity because the Dutch would only trade with Christian nations. And the dutch were trading weapons, namely the arquebus.

if you see two strangers in a heated discussion on the street do you walk up to them and join in?
it's a public street so it's perfectly fine if you do and the two strangers are in the wrong for not liking it

Wow, what a heated discussion. I'm so sorry for encroaching upon your sacred honor duel, you spergy little faggot

Public street: anyone can use it for travel
Public forum: anyone can “butt into” any conversation

How retarded/autistic do you have to be to not understand how an anonymous image board works?

No, I'm contextualizing. The central complaints about this show in particular were that they took existing story beats and reversed them in a lazy, hamfisted way, which is exactly what they've done to many shows (See: Castlevania). Not every story requires the villain to present a moral quandary, because that artificially limits the types of stories you can write. Again, Silence of the Lambs was a great movie, at no point did it attempt to make you sympathize with the villain, the inherent alien nature of him being an unrelatable psychopath was a central part of its storytelling. You CAN challenge the protagonist on an ideological basis with the villain, but saying you HAVE to leads to the exact type of laziness displayed in this show.

He’s just upset about looking stupid and trying to spin it around. Like how he’ll accuse you and me of being the same person next.

says the guy who doesn't understand why people around here use nta when they're entering conversations they weren't part of

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But humans are bad and demons are good.

agni and rudra were chill, they were just guarding a door, also V's shadow demons were good i guess

Remember when DmC had demons be irredeemable faggots that infiltrated media and use it to brainwash and subvert humanity?
And you all hated it?

Yeah because it was shit. Cry about it.

Not as shit as this.

>Demons are misunderstood victims, humans are the real monsters

thats 90+% of anime. frieren is at this point a deconstruction of the 'demons are just coloreds and racism is bad' trope

I was counting some from the old anime. Because someone was gonna bring that up. Demons are still largely the bad, though.

They're not good perse, just obsessively following what their sensei did.
White demon spergs out and starts killing, black demon commits seppuku by Dante. They're not exactly good, just not as evil.

DmC sucked ass go fuck yourself. You are not prequelfagging this piece of garbage just because everything has gotten worse in the following decade

omg new trash is out???

old trash good now!

No faggot it's still trash.

actively distances itself

does it's own thing

still thematically loyal to the original

media kikes are demons storyline is based

girl with actual tits

literal fedora Vergil

It had it's moments and it mogs Netflix slop hard.

Both are gutter trash.

slop is sloppier than other slop so that good!

I hope Adi Shankar stays away from Doom

actively distances itself

you mean tried to replace the original

does it's own thing

its a botched amalgamation of DMC1 and 3 set in a 2012 modern backdrop

still thematically loyal to the original

the main struggle between vergil and dante was completely shot, now the former just wants to rule the world because he thinks hes superior and donte has to tard wrangle him at the 11th hour

media kikes are demons storyline is based

it was a tired storyline even at the time, plus they were making fun of fox news and the billionaires who own/support it so the complete opposite of the modern Anon Babble definition of "based"

visajeet producer

It only got hate because the Devs went full retard and called OG Dante a fag.

It was actually a good game.

Leftists are obsessed with characterizing monsters with minorities.

They did the same with Orcs, saying that all Orcs are black people.

Eastern media

Noone tell this bozo 'bout The Promised Neverland, or Inuyasha, or that demons r one of those universal timeless mythical critters where you can't go wrong with with how flexible they could be, like dragons & vampires (excluding Twilight, ofc...)

I blame Chris Claremont.

He turned mutants in Marvel comics into a racism/oppressed minority group metaphor.

Before the X-Men were just superheroes and their origin was just Stan Lee being lazy. Than Claremont made them into Dindus and made Magneto into a Holocaust survivor and saying he did nothing wrong because he is a Jewish Holocaust Survivor.

Ever since then, the US has copied him.

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East: Demons are actually good
West: GIBBITUDE

Yeah, they even call the Demons Nazis for experimenting on the refugee Demons.

Woah hey I didn't know they made an anime on my wife

mother of god
we need to kill Adi Shankar

Easter media writers actually read the Bible to inform themselves.

i never hated DmC, both tv and v need to apologize

The Bible actually has barely any references to demons outside of the final book.

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Why has no one mentioned they play Last Resort?

good gameplay, bad plot and aesthetics

"For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places."

Ephesians 6:12

You say that but wait til Adi Shankar makes the Doom Netflix show and the demons are all Muslim immigrants and Doomguy is gay.

California is a disease

I miss Kevin Conroy so much he nailed this role even though it was just Batman as the Vice President

According to progressivism, the more abject you are, the more moral you are.

forgot pic but still great

Jesus versus Legion was pretty rad too, when he fights them all at once and uses his spiritual power to curse the entire 101 demons to live inside a pig. That is actually where the word Legion came from, Legionnaire is supposed to be scary its like Marines being called Devil Dogs.

Japan has had that "demon are actually good" for years in their isekai and it has gotten to the point where it is so common that people are getting sick of it and it is swinging back to "demons are bad". Unfortunately, Western hack writers still think "demons are good" is fresh and original, so they will continue with their cringe.