Why isn't this guy the face of NuWars instead of Filoni's shitty waifu?
Why isn't this guy the face of NuWars instead of Filoni's shitty waifu?
Because times move on.
boring character
zesty
ludonarrative dissonance
boring character
Same as Luke.
zesty
Hooked up with the Slavic space witch
Starslop
Grow up.
That’s Rey
Why does it bother you so much?
Does he have orange buttcheeks? No? There you go. Also, he is very gay coded, pretty sure his actor is gay and historically played gays, and his relationship with his cutesy droid pal is very gay-like.
Why isn't this goth chick the face of NuWars instead of Filoni's shitty waifu?
Because he's even more boring and probably a bigger mary sue with his gay-ass swiss army lightsaber. At least Ahsoka has sex appeal.
I'm surprised that Filoni didn't manage to push her into it yet, the guy has some serious issues with his obsession about her.
I keep looking around me, things seem to be in a cultural tail-spin I'm not sure how far people will go but it isn't good.
Sam Meggs tainted her.
how's the second game? i enjoyed the first, but it only cost me £15
parryslop
ahsoka has no sex appeal unless you're a pedophile
I imagine EA is extremely controlling about him and has the lawyers preventing disney from ruining him in live action.
I want to like the game but it just sucks
Because you need 40 hours and a new PC to find out what the fuss is all about. Then you are just met with Starkiller but worse in every way.
It's time to talk about our feelings to combat toxic masculinity, Cal.
lightsaber your primary weapon
no dismemberment allowed
somehow the vidya starsloppa is even gayer then the tv starsloppa
they should do a force unleashed reboot but actually hard, i legit forgot about his slowdown powers until the final boss of the first game
the animals get dismembered but killing troopers just feels like shit
Because Filoni didn't make him, simple as. The tubby faggot can't allow anything, even the original characters, to overshadow his one-dimensional not-characters.
SHE WAS 17 YEARS 364 DAYS 23 HOURS 59 MINUTES 59 SECONDS OLD, YOU SICK PEDO FUCK!!!!!!! JUST A FUCKING KID....
man I used to laugh at images like that
the hate was misplaced at the time, but the guy inevitably turned out to be right...
even other TCW characters are treated as second-rate to filoni's OCs
SAAAAR
She's built to be sexually appealing, it's a design as it's on a computer.
why are we pretending that force uunleashed wasn't retarded dogshit?
Do you know the age of consent in every planet in the galaxy? No? Then stay your ass down.
I still laugh, through the tears and pain
shitloni ruined any chances nu star wars had to rise up from the ashes of the sequel movies basically
i for once can proudly say that i was never fooled by shitloni and always saw him as the hack he his since i was made aware that he directed the trash that was star wars rebels
The first game was great. The second is where the problems start.
if anything he got vindicated
sure he was a salty EUfag, but in the end he was right
I started to hate filoni back in 2018, wish others did the same instead of falling for the TCW S7 bait
This pissed me off
Make show about the Clone Wars
General Grevious and Dooku sidelined for fucking Darth Maul, who is a completely revamped Filoni OC characters
vidya slop mc
lmao
writes a scene where Merrin fucks a purple-haired dyke stormtrooper on Cal's bed
gets away with it
What the fuck is wrong with them?
Leaks confirmed hes appearing in the mandalorian movie
and then he thinks maul deserves his own fucking tv show
even ventress gets set up with her own plotline but nope! gotta focus on maul!
crosses arms smugly in your path
oh really?
Go tell that to George Lucas, retard.
Yeah him the green alien girl and some other cartoon characters that I dont know.
Her tie-in was never acknowledged in the next game, and Merrin immediately hopped back on to Cal's dick. She lost
Lucas didn't force Filoni to ignore the main villains for the last two thirds of the show, only Filoni could hear
Hey bring back Maul
as
Maul is your personal OC now, do whatever you want with him and make all of the important arcs revolve around him.
Lucas was in charge of the show, retard, and all the arcs started with him, not Filoni. Maul was as important as he was, because Lucas wanted it. Filoni killed him off the first chance he got. Watch behind the scenes featurettes and read the interviews, braindead moron.
I was ok with Maul's arc for the most part, but it should have ended with that Rebels episode. When that aired I felt closure with the character and I don't need any more details about him.
On that note, while I mostly feel the same way about the Skywalker clan, I wonder why they never did something like a "The Adventures of Luke Skywalker" series, or somesuch, set after Ep6. People have been asking for something like this since the original trilogy ended, but they somehow avoid him in particular like the plague.
She lost
Wasn't that the point, though? Snatch rights to a tie-in novel and ruin the characters even if it's not gonna get acknowledged?
I AM SO SORRY GEORGE
Yes, that's all these people do. She probably wrote a few angry emails to EA
What's with the russian accent
Thankfully it becomes increasingly apparent that SW books and comics are "fanfiction among fanfiction" tier. Everyone ignores those. Latest example was Andor and the comic book K2SO origin. They should have never made that announcement back in the day that "everything's one big crossmedia canon" when Disney first acquired the franchise.
Filoni was in charge of the show, Lucas would consult from time to time
Live in ignorance. Not my problem.
Early seasons were so soulful thanks to him, the less involvement he has the more OC wankery
russian accent
It's the Dathomiri accent.
it was mostly filoni's fault
The actor seems very insecure
Ginger and white in an anti-white industry. Showing confidence means he will be replaced by a black woman
He was deeply involved all the way till the end, and the entire show was planned out for 8 seasons, and all the scripts were written and locked in and vetted by George. Here is a pic of him developing Season 8 Mon Cala arc: He was less involved only in the first half of season 1, where stories were written by Henry Gilroy, which Lucas still had to vet, and then vet the scripts. Since the second half of Season 1, starting with "Dooku Captured" episode and until the end, all the stories came from George. It's actually insane how much undeserved credit Filoni gets, when he literally had only one writing credit (for additional dialogue) on the original run of the show. 9/10 things people credit or blame Filoni for came from Lucas - which is all documented. Disney cancelling the show allowed Filoni to go against Lucas' stories and milk the characters dry, denying them organic and satisfying conclusions, using them as a vehicle to market and wank his Rebels OCs.
He's probably going to die and have Bode's kid take his place
Best case scenario is he gets frozen and can pop up in the post-ROTJ period
Truly a generational talent. <3
I see, you're right I didn't know that.
The Obiwan show is just Fallen Order but 50 times worse and starring mostly Filoni OC characters
How much of that is on Filoni do you think?
No fucking way in hell did that random normiegroid asian lady director play the game and decide to rip off the plot almost beat for beat outside of the Leia shit
in this episode you will rediscover your attachment to the force by *pants* travelling back in time to have a threesome with your padawan self and anakin
filoni, i dont think that's in the lore...
I AM THE LORE
Wonder what the fuck would have happened in the Vong appeared like they originally wanted before the Disney buyout
Almost certainly would have been retconned to be some nuisance small threat raiding race or something unless the episode specifically set them up as a major threat
Vong are gay, should've gone with the original idea of the old Sith stripped of their force sensitivity.
allowed Filoni to go against Lucas' stories and milk the characters dry
I will never forgive Filoni for utterly butchering the Ahsoka's Walkabout and Siege of Mandalore arcs. He basically threw out existing scripts and rewrote them from scratch. The show was supposed to end with Ahsoka confronting Vader in Coruscant.
Ahsoka's character has also been completely directionless since Filoni took over. You'd think that she'd be tempted by Dark Side considering all the shit that happened to her. But no, she's a literal paragon of goodness. She never doubts herself, she never falters like Cal or Luke. She just exists. Not to mention that Filoni threw a literal tantrum when JJ Abrams implied that she's dead in EP9.
From the bits we know of the episode the Vong are mostly the same. I think it was
Anakin and crew find this strange vessel
Fight the Vong who are tough bastards
Realize this is a disabled scout ship
Something like that, the only retcon was that the Force worked on the Vong. A retcon I don't much mind, their reason for being "disconnected" from the Force never made sense and clashed with the core conceit of the setting.
He has 0 charisma.
George did not like the idea that they were immune to the Force, that much was known - as far as changes go.
The Vong were to be featured in a The X-files-esque episode in which the Yuuzhan Vong aboard their scout ship would perform an abduction trying to assess the strength of the Galactic Republic and what the Jedi were. According to Hidalgo, however, the story would have just implied the origins of the Yuuzhan Vong and they weren't immune to the Force to better align George Lucas' description of the Force.
Probably a set up for future stories. Since this was a horror ep, I assume they would kill everyone/most of the characters and escape.
I understand why that happened
Disney cancels clone wars, starts rebels
Gives Ahsoka that same confrontation against Vader in rebels, since to his knowledge TCW was kill
The most egregious fucking thing was inventing time travel to save her, just for her to do fuck all except for steal the spotlight of storylines that were meant for Luke and company
How much of that is on Filoni do you think?
Not much, I would say. The Obi-Wan show is disgusting, corporate slop. There's not a single original idea in the whole endeavour. They straight up lift entire set-ups, story beats, and locations from Fallen Order. They rip off and dialogue and entire scenes from Rebels. Fallen Order borrowed certain ideas from Rebels, yes, but it made them better. The whole project was elevated by Chris Avellone's writing, which was sadly absent from the sequel.
Obi-Wan Kenobi is the hackiest Star Wars thing ever produced. And the sad thing is that most people will never know the full extent of its hackery because most people watching haven't played Fallen Order or watched Rebels.
Rakata 2.0? Pass
Gives Ahsoka that same confrontation against Vader in rebels
Except Lucas wanted Ahsoka dead. Her confrontation (and fall) during the fight with Vader was meant to be the culmination of her arc (apprentice standing up to her former master and dying trying to redeem him, something Luke later accomplished).
He basically threw out existing scripts and rewrote them from scratch.
Not really from scratch. Pablo Hidalgo confirmed years ago that the final arc is based on the original scripts written by Michnovetz in 2012. And what we saw in the finale tracks with the sketches drawn during the story conference with Lucas. Ahsoka didn't die in the original scripts. But she most certainly would have in whatever next show Lucas would've made if Disney hadn't bought SW. Where she'd be older and a mentor character, to mirror Kenobi in ANH. Basically Rebels, if retard Filoni didn't fumble it with embarrassing time travel.
Walkabout was basically the same, with the exception of male character being split into two obnoxious sisters, and Bo-Katan + Maul shoehorned there, because they needed to tie what was originally a Season 6 arc with Season 8 series grand finale.
And Ahsoka did die....until she got saved by time travel
That rat Filoni
Because 95% of people who care about SW care about the television and film aspect of it. Most people who whine about Star Wars no longer having a normal white male hero like Luke have never even heard of Cal nor do they want to.
and starring mostly Filoni OC characters
Who, retard? Grand Inquisitor who was a glorified cameo? Filoni's name wasn't anywhere on the Obi-Wan Kenobi show.
Luckily, the next game just completely ignored the novel.
nostalgia
Cary Silver the series producer once stated that Lucas would just throw stories into the writers room fully expecting it to be done regardless of complexity
Knowing that nobody can say anything against your ideas anymore must be liberating.
Pablo Hidalgo confirmed
I wouldn't trust a word of that guy. Per WGA crediting rules, Siege of Mandalore had to be completely rewritten to warrant Filoni's sole writer credit. It means the original story had to be thrown in the garbage. Otherwise, the original writer would have to be credited per the WGA rules.
Walkabout was basically the same, with the exception of male character being split into two obnoxious sisters
The male character was meant to be Ahsoka's love interest. You can't just remove a romantic subtplot from a story and claim it's the same story. The original arc was supposed to be about Ahsoka's "journey into adulthood" (walkabout) so to speak, and removing romance from it completely changes the whole thing and purpose.
The only S7 arc that remained largely the same (and has the original writers credited) is The Bad Batch. Ahsoka's Walkabout and Siege of Mandalore are full of Disneyisms (like Kylo Ren's Force Mindreading) and direct homages to the sequel movies. They're not just what Lucas had written.
Those lips kissed a purple-haired stormtrooper's stinky cunt.
Moviegoers hate ponchos
And that's the problem with nu-wars. No wild George Lucas creative person. Total complacency. No actual creative, who can come up with interesting shit and CHALLENGE the team to push the envelope. Every animated show under Disney has been boring, neutered, small scale, low stakes, formulaic shit. Lone Wolf and the Cub on a fetch quest or monster of the week. The same formula. Every. Single. Fucking. Time. They just ride on the coat tails of the successful and loved things George made to bait people into watching their boring shit.
I wonder what's Maul show gonna be like. They are just using George's ideas, which are inherently more interesting than anything Disney Lucasfilm could come up with, and it's gonna be a show following the bad guys, so it won't be the usual toddler slop Disney has been feeding us.
I stand by my statement that Fallen Order is the only Disney Wars product that felt like actual Star Wars. Andor is dark, but it just doesn't feel like Star Wars. It doesn't look like Star Wars, it doesn't sound like Star Wars. It's not written like Star Wars.
Fallen Order combines the grittiness of the period with that signature George Lucas flair.
I dont think he's a good Jedi. I think he's a charisma vacuum.
Calling it now, Starkiller is going to appear in Jedi 3 and kill Cal at the end, explaining why he never appears or is mentioned in future lore
Why do you nerds hate fun so much?
This meme is unhinged.
George, allegedly, liked Rogue One. He was on set, and then he called Tony Gilroy and said he like it. The premise of the movie was taken from one of the arcs for the Underworld show, and lots of elements in it also originated from it, like Guardians of the Whills, and Death Star being powered by Kyber Crystals and Saw Gerrera are all from George's stories from Clone Wars.
as we all being a good jedi is all about oozing charisma and being a turbochad
Dinosaur jedi from episode 2 was peak gigachad.
blame furloni for blocking any creative ideas in favour of his "vision" which is his OCs running around taking the spotlight from anyone else
And she is dancing now!
Her feet are light and nimble. She never loses. They say that she will never die. She is always jumping out of danger. She spinflips and leaps in light and in shadow and she is a great favorite. She never loses, Ahsoka. She is dancing, dancing. They say that she will never die!
Disney has been trying to fuck over the devs of the game for a while
Because he's going to die in his next game
i don't think so, sam maggs is out of the project
LOMBAX TITTIES
LOMBAX TITTIES
LOMBAX TITTIES
How do you respond without sounding mad?
He's forgotten. Nobody even knows who he is.
>gets away with it
Not really. She's not allowed to write SW shit anymore, and the game writers ignored her bullshit in the sequel.
cal is a fucking non character. Starkiller was atleast nu metal edgy. Jedi loses pointss for casting that ugly bugeye woman as one of the main characters.
i've seen that postd countless times but never asked what the source for it was?
cal is a fucking non character.
He's as much of a character as Luke - his job is not to be some complex 4D character you could write a psychological paper on. His job is to be the hero who goes on a journey and gets shit done and changes as a person.
hell yeah, make em big too!
Cal is Luke. He's a do-gooder, kind, brave, heroic. Nothing wrong with that. Putting him up against Starkiller would be amazing.
The games are pretty popular, it’s just that funnily enough there’s not a ton of overlap between live-action Star Wars fans and gamers who would play Star Wars games.
Cast her
He's as much of a character as Luke - his job is not to be some complex 4D character you could write a psychological paper on. His job is to be the hero who goes on a journey and gets shit done and changes as a person
More importantly: he's a self-insert for the audience. He's a self insert for me, a white dude. That's why Cal is great.
Debra Wilson
I masturbated thinking about Nightsister Merrin's sweaty blue boot feet (wearing stirrups, of course) and there's nothing this lesbo can do to stop me
alright but who will play her then?
Unfathomably based.
Whoopi Goldberg or Queen Latifah
she's russian
She needs more porn.
Tina Ivlev
There’s no place for him in the established canon. By the time of the OT he either has to be dead or not be a jedi anymore. It doesn’t make sense that during all that time between the prequels and the OT there was this super badass jedi who met and fought Vader and Boba Fett or whatever and was also the leader of a resistance and was trying to revive the jedi order, etc. It nullifies the characters of Obi-Wan and Luke. Then again, this is a problem with all the expanded universe stories that take place between the prequels and the OT.
He would have been old by the time the sequel trilogy started.
Merrin is a dyke.
Thats fine but he has a lame fighting style. The game devs did nothing to make him interesting to watch. Wolf in sekiro is silent yet infinitely cooler and more interesting.
If JJ had leaned into the spectacle angle, and made an evil Starkiller clone the final boss Rey and Kyle have to team up to fight, it would have been glorious.
By the time of the OT he either has to be dead or not be a jedi anymore
Never stopped them before.
Why do people hate her again? She literally just looks like gender-swapped Mace Windu.
The galaxy is teeming with billions of habitable planets. Entire empires rise and fall in sectors of space without the larger galaxy ever noticing. At least, that's what happens in 40K. Point is, rogue jedi could be at work wrecking havoc all over the Empire without ever running into each other.
There’s no place for him in the established canon. By the time of the OT he either has to be dead or not be a jedi anymore.
Well his current trajectory seems to be going towards dead or retired after game #3. He's not going to be another Ahsoka, not unless the game writers go total retard.
It doesn’t make sense that during all that time between the prequels and the OT there was this super badass jedi who met and fought Vader and Boba Fett or whatever and was also the leader of a resistance and was trying to revive the jedi order
Cal is not any of these things. His "fight" against Vader was Cal pissing his pants and running away, he never fought Boba Fett, and he never led any resistance. At most Cal disrupted supply lines but never had any tangible impact on the war, this is even a plot point of the second game.
Cal Kestis is everything Ahsoka SHOULD be
You thought Luthen Rael was the mastermind behind the Rebellion? Think again.
Cal Kestis is everything Ahsoka SHOULD be
As in her story should have been about her giving up the fight and settling down on some far away planet with her Separatist boyfriend? I agree.
Wow ANOTHER jedi that survived Order 66!
How original!
Play the Force Unleashed games. Sidious was the mastermind behind the rebellion. He started it with the intention of rooting out the troublemakers but it blew up in his wrinkly ass face.
George is close friends with Gilroy's family, so he will perceive Andor as Star Wars on the caliber of the movies.
young male jedi padawan with nightsister gf
cal and lyco would get along very well
Holding swords like that only puts you in a disadvantage.
Luke...there is another..
There is Mill Alibeth, Djinn Altis, Tiberus Anderlock, Klossi Anno, Aqinos, Fable Astin's mother, Kelleran Beq, Nej'a Berto'Lo, Ood Bnar, Bon (Jedi), Empatojayos Brand, Brianna (Human), Maris Brood, Drun Cairnwick, Caryn (Jedi), Shen-Ji Collun, Winslau Da'k, Vima-Da-Boda, Winslau Da'k's Jedi Master, Death Star Prisoner, Markus Dorivonn, Ekria, Elaiza, Selrahc Elous, Neth Enasteri, Tallisibeth "Scout" Enwandung-Esterhazy, F, Minos Fel'Kona, Gel, Genel, Gerrick, Gungi, Kina Ha, Halbret, Hal Horn, Ikrit, Ilum (Jedi), Roganda Ismaren, Ylenic It'kla, Jedi Prisoner, Darrus Jeht, Jek-14, Dass Jennir, Jerec (Inquisitor), Jiro (Jedi), Jorad, Drakka Judarri, Bardan Jusik, Kai Justiss, K'Kruhk, Kaoln, Coleman Kcaj, Danaan Kerr, Cal Kestis, Sinsor Khal, Ka-Moon Kholi, Jimbo Kinnison, Rahm Kota, Matarmeno Krahn, Darth Krayt, Drake Lo'gaan, Taron Malicos, Vanzell Mar-Klar, Nichos Marr, Maw (Dark Jedi), Naq Med, Celeste Morne, Noirah Na, Nable, Lora Nadad, Deran Nalual, Nedriss Narr, Nia, Nos'lyn, Feris Olyn, Onkya, Pann, Diala Passil, Jax Pavan, Chase Piru, Plett, Qid Proko, Qu Rahn, Oppo Rancisis, Jin-Lo Rayce, Tyneir Renz, Aven Rolk, Rugal, T'ra Saa, Joc Sah, Sardoth, Seddwia, Corwin Shelvay, Echuu Shen-Jon, Kara Shuba, Ydra Kilwallen Sibwarra, Sidirri, Rachi Sitra, Vivert Stag, Olee Starstone, Kennan Taanzer, Damien Tantrellius, Dorn Tavers, Tholme, Vhiin Thorla, Wise Man of Kooroo, Togorian youngling, Antinnis Tremayne, Jee Ken Tsokee, Bre'ano Umakk, Hoddas Umgil, Unidentified Human female Jedi (Jar'kai), Unidentified Human male Jedi (Faalo's Will), Unidentified Human male youngling, Unidentified Jedi (Ironarm), Unidentified Rodian Jedi youngling, Unidentified Twi'lek Force-sensitive, Trilinae Untaire, Urootar, Uvell, Sarn Vals, Vamilad, Kira Vantala, Quinlan Vos, Roni von Wasaki, Antaria Wellos, Zao, and Arligan Zey.
Didn't Anakin kill this girl in the original cartoon? Why are they still alive?
Why are they still alive?
No one's ever really gone.
she never died in 2003 clone wars due to it being part of the CWMMP
ventress has been presumed dead more times than shaak ti at this point, and has actually died once yet resurrected herself
Only retards took Force Unleashed seriously. It's just a fun Jedi/Sith power fantasy game where I can yeet stormtroopers into laser walls.
Let's see Cal's orange pussy
It’s funny how the same redditors who talk about how “palpatine did nothing wrong” and how he “brought balance to the force by killing all the jedi” and later defend the sequels for the same shit never have any problem with this many survivors.
Cal is just as much of a retarded mary sue as Ahsoka.
Because she’s extremely boring despite how much stuff she’s in now.
Mary Sue, what a watered down phrase these days. At this point any character with a superpower is a Mary Sue. Oh, you can just run up walls like a spider? Yeah, Mary Sue. Maey Sue everybody. C'mon. Why is he a an MS? Cos he can switch between two different weapons? Damn
It's Gary Stu for guys
no one but redditors uses that
Cal's whole gimmick is that he's kinda average in terms of skill and power and only makes up for it through gigantic amounts of practical experience and persistence. In spite of this still needs to constantly get bailed out by his friends even after two entire games, without BD1 or Merrin constantly saving his ass he'd have died 20 times over. He also gets things wrong frequently enough for it to be a major problem, in fact the way things went so wrong in the second game is mostly Cal's own fault for being a shortsighted stubborn retard. Cal is boring but he's not a mary sue, nobody who played the games would ever call him a mary sue.
I'm glad Andor never caved and added some jedi garbage. The galaxy is huge and yet disney wants to throw jedi in every story. It only lessens the impact that Luke had in the original trilogy.
Obsessed
No bro, that show totally needed a 6 million and third order 66 survivor to whip out his lightsaber and lead the protestors to victory on Ghorman, only for it to not matter and the jedi has to fuck off forever because it's covering pre-ANH and pre-ROTJ ground and it'd fuck up the narrative if the rebels just had another one in their pocket all this time, only for that to also not matter because apparently that jedi remains on super good terms with high ranking rebel officials off-screen. An entire galaxy's worth of stories to tell simply must revolve around specifically this formula and nothing else. God forbid the viewers at home have to empathize with the struggles of normal people.
The galaxy is teeming with billions of habitable planets. Entire empires rise and fall in sectors of space without the larger galaxy ever noticing. At least, that's what happens in 40K.
Holy secondary.
Leave this thread at once. Shoo.
What? I'm just saying it's reasonable that a Jedi could be out there fucking shit up without anyone noticing.
youtube.com
Posting this since I know it'll upset you.
the chick universally mocked online a decade ago for complaining about "virtual rape" in GTA5 is now a game "dev"
He's a disney character and he's shit
Because I don't give a fuck about a third rate Luke.
>the chick
Wait is Sam Maggs not a troon?
It isn't either of them. It's Grogu
and that's a good thing
And if you don't believe me, ask yourself which character has their face on more merch.
It is