if this is true, why no kino?
Nirvana
there's a shitty gus van sant movie about him
two glowie assets
a human musician
Wow imagine trying to fellate this middling druggie punk and that's the best you can come up with.
nothing big has happened since this band
ahem
this. the real reason is because it's heavily controlled and they don't allow things to naturally happen. you really think these clowns are going to just let anyone in such a highly influential position of power and influence? there's heavy chains and leashes put on the individual before they're allowed to be in the public eye. it's all fake, all for show.
Nothing big has happened since this band
Radiohead
Right, which is why so many "rock stars" from especially the 60s and 70s were glowies or the offspring of glowies.
LITERALLY
ONE
GOOD
SONG
every person he listed is fucking trash so yeah i guess he belongs with them
Come As You Are?
still goes on to this day
(ripped off from Killing Joke btw)
what a shitty boomer opinion. mans acts like cobain was bladee or sumn
you implied that radiohead was the next big thing since nirvana despite the band having exactly one good song in their whole fucking discography.
having exactly one good song in their whole fucking discography.
bait. nobody thinks that.
Nirvana only had one good song in their discography? Come on now. They’ve got like 3. Don’t be mean.
both bands are only realistically known for just 1 song.
Kid A is a cool album, it has more than a few good songs on it. Rest of their stuff is milquetoast at best
teen spirit
come as you are
about a girl
heart shaped box
kys
and Janis and Morrison
ay lmao
try to think of a single Queen song except Bohemian Rhapsody. you can't.
nothing big
NHH
I never owned slaves, BUT I’M A WEIRDO!
under pressure
radiohead fans are a bunch of faggots
they're currently opening for avenged sevenfold
big
ever since I saw that fucking abstract performative dance from tom yorke I just couldn't take the band or the fans serious anymore.
that's by Vanilla Ice
What an asinine statement. There were plenty of bands on the same level as Nirvana, in the same genre, during the same era such as the Pixies. And current era you have outfits such as Maruja and YHWH Nailgun which are taking the genre to a whole new dimension.
Not anymore. They were big, they were amazing. Riiiiiiiight up to the moment A Sense of Purpose came out.
Nirvana fans worship a guy who put on dresses and kissed dudes on stage. Radiohead never did that shit.
another one bites the dust
killer queen
radio gaga
don't stop me now
we will rock you
we are the champions
somebody to love
the bicycle song
get better bait zoomer retard
You’re thinking of dun dun dun dududun dun. It’s a different song.
The Nirvana story isn't very cinematic, and a Kurt Cobain biopic would be too slow and depressing much like Last Days was.
How big were linkin park at their peak? Were they close to nirvana?
bust on through
to the other side
Bigger because people outside of the US enjoyed them too
Kurt cobain was a proto tranny. It’s true, think about it.
In Rainbows is better than your favorite album.
Do they sell Linkin Park shirts in Walmart? There's your answer.
no bass
No thanx.
Yes.
Anon Babble called, they want their taste from 2011 back
if he was bitchy, he'll cut down shows
if he was pissy sleepy, he would not even show up
if he was depressed, pissy AND bitchy, he would perform poorly, without any spirit, and not evem dress or care
Wow such rock
This "rockstars" were basically proto-influencers.
nothing big has happened since that band
nirvana would be opening for the bizkit in 2000 if he hadnt offed himself
You’re so cool for not liking an objectively amazing album
objectively
don't use words you know the meaning of
YEAH EVERYBODY LEAVES
IF THEY GET THE CHAAAAAAANCE
AND THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS
IS MY CHANCE
Cobain was somehow even gayer than Rob Halford, and Nirvana was absolute corporate industry pushed glop. Gen X are just as bad as Boomers in thinking their shit doesn't stink.
Unironically true. There hasn't been a new rock band that's even approached nirvana's heights since then.
heights
Nirvana's first name as a band was literally "Fecal Matter"
Sir, may I contradict your opinion?
Creed does slap. I love their live album.
smells like teen spirit
come as you are
in bloom
heart shaped box
rape me
penny royal tea
There's the only "good" nirvana songs. I just saved you having to listen to 3 albums of drivel
i want it all
hammer to fall
Rob Halford isn't even american
Ever notice how most Nirvana songs sound like "Gouge Away" by The Pixies?
what is MI5
no Bleach tracks
pleb
youtu.be
close to nirvana?
It's not about popularity with Nirvana and more about the seismic shift in the entire industry when they hit in 1991. They moved everything away from 80's rock-op and straight up killed the big hair metal etc bands.
Grunge take over and kind of the last stand of rock being in charts in early 1990s is what makes Nirvana so historic. Yet that also sort of kills there being a film. As rock died so hard by maybe 2000 that I'm not sure a main stream younger demo would even care.
Mate Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park were in the charts in the 2000's. That was the real last stand of rock.
uhhh... hello? haven't you heard of 5sos?
olivia rodrigo is keeping the punk scene alive
not about kurt, just ispired, doesnt really count
anon are you forgetting MUMFORD AND SONS??
Acting like Papa Roach never existed.
if cobain hadn't offed himself he would nirvana would have been forgotten by the 00's
rage against the machine level of has beens
he did a smart move, he’s forever a young rockstar
wasn't their biggest hit a jackson cover?
a shitty
So, not a kino.
yeah and he'd have recently sold his copyright for like half a billion after touring profitably for decades. what a genius.
you're thinking alien ant farm
you saing he didnt unalive himself but was unalived by someone else?
someone's got to i guess
it's for the best, they were shit
*plays out of tune power chord*
waah i'm gay
t. never bothered to listen to Bleach or Incesticide
big poser detected
I hope Razorfist read this
intelligible lyrics over shoegaze pop
when did you realize the whole poser thing is to encourage brand loyalty and shame casual listeners?
Californication alone made more money and had more cultural and musical impact as one album than Nirvana ever achieved throughout their entire ten year run. Hell, even before Kurt died the Chili Peppers were making canyon-wide strides comparatively. I love Nirvana and they're the reason I got into guitar again as an adult, but they were never number one in rock. I would argue The Chilis or TOOL as having been the most influential bands of that time.
TAZERFACE
Courtney Love, she vetoed almost everything that came up. Even using their music or getting the t-shirts made was an ordeal
Lord of the Rings sucks. I only read the first three chapters though
movie couldnt be made in the 90ties(ok i understand), therefore it still cant be made over 30 years later(wtf?!?)
this is actually completely based
not a great analogy at all
Oh my god why are Radiohead fans the biggest faggots in the music world.
Lithium.
almost all music biopics are bad so we're not really missing out.
Only good one is Dewey Cox the absolute legend.
The last true great band was Guns N Roses.
Nirvana was seen as more of a spear point for the grunge/alternative movement. Most people quickly moved on from Nevermind as it was played so much on MTV and the radio that it became exhausting. In Utero was a commercial let down with zero cultural impact outside of the controversy around rape me. Anyone claiming to be a Nirvana fan is now either a teenager or someone who lists a pre-Nevermind album as their favorite. What is often overlooked now is how much Nirvana was derided and mocked at the time for the over simplicity of their music. They took the quiet loud quiet from The Pixies, power chords from the 70s and the simplistic song writing of the Beatles, combining it all in a new form of pop music. Sure it could be called genius the first time but leaves little depth for repeated listening.
rob halford (and his fag manager) literally raped hundreds of men including other people in bands. see jani lane
YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN THE LEAD GUITARIST LOST HIS VIRGINITY? FUCKING POSER
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DRUMMER OF THE BAND GOT HIS STEP BROTHER FOR HIS 12TH BIRTHDAY?
FUCKING POSER!
Kurt a week before Nevermind came out
yeah, I forgot that one
the real jewels of grunge were Alice in Chains and Soundgarden. Nirvana got nothing on these two
thanks, upvoted
fuck life was so much better back then. We had sense of purpose, apart ofc from kurt, who couldn't see that.
He'd hang himself I guess anyway if he had seen the 2020s
My nigga
5 words
queens of the stone age
they only had 2 good songs at best. everything else is filler.
They're so fucking generic though. Boring rock.
lol ...like clockwork is a fucking masterpiece and you cant name a single song
Rockslop
Rock died with Nirvana because the demographics that listen to rock died in the 90's.
no one knows
i was a teenage hand model
boring band, one or two good songs. that's all.
I am certainly not a Radiohead fan. Just stating facts.
Look at this photograph
Pretty sure the insane clown posse had more of a cultural impact than nirvana did. Not saying it was for the better but they certainly had a following.
They could take us higher.
Alice in chains isn't grunge.
A lot of people forget Halford's Fight period.
You sound like a fat ugly nerd
you know what I mean
grunge is more a time period than a musical style anyway
It's not about popularity with Nirvana and more about the seismic shift in the entire industry when they hit in 1991. They moved everything away from 80's rock-op and straight up killed the big hair metal etc bands.
tell that to bon jovi and def leppard and many of those hair bands that still tour today. the metallica black album came out in 1991 and has sold over 30 million copies.
I like how Patton Oswalt had a whole bit about how gay Judas Priest was and then Rob Halford was like "I've been gay my whole life, I love the Advocate"
It sucks because it was one of Oswalt's better bits about homophobia in the 90s-00s.But it's like "well yeah, a lot of course it was gay, he wore a leather vest and sang songs about how he can't live in society's morals"
no one listens to these songs
if this is true
footnote
Rob Halford is a flaming homosexual
Fucking Winger, the poster child for that particular class of hair bands "killed" by grunge (and famously Beavis & Butt-Head), still tours. Their most recent album dropped in 2023. Many of the old giants are still active, and new bands in the genre pop up all the time.
Rock left the mainstream, but it didn't die. It was dropped by record company executives and the MTV, so it did the jazz thing and slid below the radar. If you go looking for it, you'll find a living genre with fans all over. They just stick to their own circles these days.
tell that to bon jovi and def leppard and
Dino groups can still tour but culture wise rock is pretty much dead. You're not getting Guns'n Roses 90s level sales etc. No big awards etc etc... Even when clearly rock as a sound is still popular. Every time it pops up in movies or gets sampled it wow that sounds great.
Then everyone goes back to Taylor Swift, rap and pop. Think of this issue like Hockey. Still popular to a lot of people, still around. Yet culture and so on it's one of the lowest pro level sports in the USA with a major league of pros playing. The NFL draft day BS can pull more viewers than a Hockey game.
Rap swallowed everything in the mid 00s to just about now. There is some weird shift to make rap more country and vice versa, but yeah if Cobain didn't blow his brains out he would be like mcr
I think he died for the longevity of the band, at the time he killed himself they were in the process of splitting up, Kurt died to make nirvana legendary
classic
Dino groups can still tour but culture wise rock is pretty much dead
everybody knows this though. but bon jovi throughout the 90s and 2000s were one of the biggest touring acts around. as the years went on their tours grossed more than the years before. copied from wiki... In 1992, the band returned with the double-platinum Keep the Faith, which included the hit "Bed of Roses". This was followed by their biggest-selling and longest-charting single "Always" in 1994. The album These Days (1995), proved a bigger success in Europe than in the US, producing four Top Ten singles in the UK. Following a second hiatus, their 2000 album Crush, particularly the lead single, "It's My Life", successfully introduced the band to a younger audience. The platinum albums Have a Nice Day (2005) and Lost Highway (2007) saw the band incorporate elements of country music into some songs, including the 2006 single "Who Says You Can't Go Home", which won the band a Grammy Award and became the first single by a rock band to reach No. 1 on the country charts. The Circle (2009) marked a return to the band's rock sound. The band further success touring, with the 2005–06 Have a Nice Day Tour and 2007–08 Lost Highway Tour ranking among the Top 20 highest-grossing concert tours of the 2000s...
Killing Joke also ripped off the riff from The Damned's 'Life Goes On.'
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i quite like winger. i didnt buy music as a kid but in the 90s started to. all those used hair metal cds were so cheap only $1.99 at my local record store i picked them all up over time. ive got every album released by those groups during their heyday. winger, skid row, ratt, dokken, white lion, danger danger, poison etc
culture wise rock is pretty much dead
A lot of metal culture was absorbed into pop music. Like you'll hear random screamo stuff in popular music, and they all want to dress like death metal bands.
See, this is a blatant Burzum rip off.
What was shocking about Nirvana? Many things happened since then. Alternative guitar music briefly fused with RAP, Emo happened. Strange that he would say such a thing.
the next Tom Cruise KINO
eh, it's the same intervals so it almost falls on a "you can't steal a chord progression" territory. but nirvana's is kinda trickier because kurt even copied geordie's guitar sound, not just the notes
What was shocking about Nirvana?
nothing. it was that he croaked young so those types seemed to be thought of in a more romantic way. the entire grunge era was a literal joke. there is no nostalgia connected to any of those bands by the general public. pearl jam has been releasing albums for decades, just put out a new one. does anybody even know that?
emocore started in 1985
another episodes of "zoomers opine about shit that happened decades before they were born"
Based Sir Rob.
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Painkiller is the greatest thrash metal album of all time.
a band signed and promoted by a major label, geffen, whos videos were played non-stop on mtv were le shocking!
Real talk, LInkin Park would have eclipsed them
check out baby metal and rob doing PAIN KIRRAR
Gen Xer who saw Nirvana when Chad Channing was the drummer here and the guy's not wrong. For those of us who already knew all the Sub Pop bands, it was just watching obscure music become briefly trendy, and most of it sucked. The "influence" it had was spawning Creed and Nickelback, and the preceding "grunge" trend itself was dead by 1994, with the broader "alternative" trend mostly expired by 1996. Look at the Billboard charts from 1997 on: it's all shit like Limp Bizkit and Kid Rock and so on.
Its only real salience was providing something of a contrast to the preceding decade's overwrought hair metal trend, and then consumers needing some sort of pop martyr created one when some mediocre guitarist ate his shotgun. If he hadn't done that he'd likely be the same sort of bloated, groupie-impregnating moron Dave Grohl is, just some old has-been associated with a brief moment in pop culture consumption.
I'm not even sure Joplin, Morrison, and Hendrix were that influential either. It's one thing to impose yourself on the future of music like Run DMC or Black Sabbath did, and another to be a clever performer capitalizing on shifting consumer moods.
tl;dr - I was there and Nirvana were not really that legendary
It's not easynllllllllvtheb3 gap
See it was secretly good at grabbing said guards facemac.
uh, to normies, yeah
stupid bitch
compare "smells like teen spirit" to all of the adjacent number one hits. it's completely different.
Great album too
For all the chicken he ate, he's pretty thin here.
it's completely different.
go listen to the bands kurt nobrain admitted to copying. like the pixies. mudhoney, sonic youth etc. nirvana doesnt even have a totally unique sound. if you want that go back to bands like bauhaus or joy division or visage. absolutely nobody sounded like those bands before they came along
I remember Minor Threat, was that already emocore?
producer jack endino is probably the person who should receive credit for the seattle sound
I think the shocking part was about the text. There haven't been many mainstream songs about rape or abortion. But the whole drug glorification and whining about it after the fact was not new.
i was born in 03 and i listened to killer queen the whole way through when i heard it playing at a local bar last night
i listened to a whole song at the bar
well uhhhh not like you were about to do anything about it lmao
Stone Cold Crazy is hard as fuck
If you were already listening to Pennywise and NOFX, Nirvana was just too slow and gay
Limp Bizkit had more cultural impact than nirvana
Breed and territorial pissings got me into punk.
this is loud and fast why aren’t all the songs this good
no, but Ian's next band Embrace was
Nothing big has happened since Nirvana? That's wrong, although the impact of Nirvana probably dwarfs anything that followed in terms of cultural influence. Really though, it says less about Nirvana than it does about popular culture and it's decentralization.
In terms of cultural influence, a blip on the radar. Great band though.
Maybe, but Radiohead's still better than Nirvana.
He's not speaking about the same level, as in quality. He says big. The Pixies were never big. Well, they are bigly overrated.
You had to be there. Everything changed after Nirvana. They changed the entire landscape of popular rock. You can argue they weren't innovative, but they had a cultural influence that nothing in my lifetime has come close to. You have to understand this was from a time when popular culture meant something. Nobody had their own little personalized playlist of widely unknown artists in their pockets on a small computer.
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Nah, but they were a big deal to kids.
why listen to the pixies when you can listen to husker du and peter paul and mary DURRRRR
Hasn't been anything big since Nirvana
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You had to be there. Everything changed after Nirvana. They changed the entire landscape of popular rock.
i was there. they changed nothing, i just pointed out how metallica and pantera and even bon jovi were still huge no matter revisionists want to say about rock at that time
No you're wrong lots of people do
Don't know where you were living, but Nirvana changed culture, down to the way people dressed. It was the true end of the 80's.
Incesticide
That isn't an album.
Now how come they stopped making good music after I turned 25?
baltimore. nobody here dressed like nirvana
you are an absolute moron
as are you
punk frontmen are influential and powerful
ok retard
biggest legacy will be supporters of zionism
UP AGAINST THE WALL
It was the true end of the 80's.
how come so many 80s singers continued to be popular all during the 90s
madonna
janet jackson
metallica
bon jovi
van halen
prince
phil collins
new order
his book is pretty good, though he spends most of the chapters talking about his various hookups and partners. almost makes you wonder where did he find the time to be in a metal band
A Sense of Purpose
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahaha
hahahahahaha
hahaha
hehhe
heh
No. They wen't off a fucking cliff with Come Clarity.
Their 90's albums are fantastic from beginning to end and the band even got wildly better towards the late 90's, every album after 1999 had several songs on each album that you just flat out wouldnt listen to. With Come Clarity being the death knell with just one halfway decent song.
One Vision
You're My Best Friend
Fats Bottomed Girls
Princes Of The Universe
Flash
I Want To Break Free
Immediately thought of RHCP too. Radiohead almost was a grunge band on The Bends, but they sort of merged it with prog krautrock.
What is the best book on Radiohead?
a lot of German punk sounds like very sped-up Nirvana, it's great really.
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Not sure that contradicts what I'm saying.
madonna
Numerous reinventions.
janet jackson
Pop was in its own lane, and wasn't taken seriously by people who listened to rock. It was a division of the sexes.
metallica
bon jovi
van halen
Don't remember any of these bands being all that popular in the 90's. Sure, people were listening to it, but Nirvana was everywhere. These bands were old news.
prince
Prince was a joke by the 90's.
phil collins
Who knows why anyone ever listened to Phil Collins. He was popular with baby boomer parents.
new order
Huh? They had a couple of songs from the 80's that were hits in the states, but were never that big outside of that.
RHCP and Tool both rode the wave caused by the Nirvana wake. Pearl Jam were bigger than either of those two at the time
Radiohead are alternative not grunge, not almost grunge or anything just alt almost prog
Yeah, for some reason rock as a cultural phenomenon died with Cobain. Which is of course the ironic part in that being a cultural phenomenon is what caused Cobain to kill himself.
We've been stuck with shitty rap and pop for about 20 years now.
There's still rock but it's not mainstream. New bands aren't popular. There's been little since 2013 and yes the last 20yrs the best stuff was from older bands. My theory is Daft Punk's ram was the end point
I've heard this argument before on the internet, that Pearl Jam or Red Hot Chilli Peppers were bigger than Nirvana, because they sold more albums or something. Sorry, not true. Clearly not a statement from anyone that lived during that time. They sold more units, sure, but Nirvana redefined the landscape. Both RHCP and Pearl Jam are downstream of Nirvana. This is almost like saying the Black Eyed Peas had a larger cultural impact than Outkast, but way dumber and more wrong.
nooooooo I need a heckin biopicerino
do zoomers really?
They're not, you stupid nigger. Only retards group them with grunge.
we really out here responding to the most obvious bait of all time
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