Christcuck bros… we’re being raptured
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Jesus's crucifixion wasn't really a "sacrifice" if he just resurrected 3 days later no problem. Anyone who has ever died for any cause has sacrificed more than Jesus in that regard because they stayed permanently dead. The resurrection completely negates the emotional impact of the crucifixion and it's shit writing desu
Did he know he was getting resurrected?
Who's funding this?
OP is a bitch who didn’t link
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If he didn't, he lied about being "one with God" (John 10:30)
how does one with God mean resurrection?
has to die to save humanity
people who killed him are the bad guys
How is Mel Gibson going to fix this plot hole?
I'm saying if he didn't know the future then he wasn't actually the God he claimed to be.
I thought he claimed to be the son of God.
I love Jesus so much bros. He subjected himself to this kind of torture and humiliation for us. To save us. Can muslims and buddhists say the same about muhammad and buddha? I don't think so. Christ is king.
orthodox christians claim Jesus is God. When he is crucified he looks up to the sky and says 'Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do'. So he's referring to himself in the third person? that's odd. Unless they're saying the father, the son and the holy spirit are 3 components that comprise God. so The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, but it's the same entity in a different state of existence ahhhh
He claimed he WAS God (John 10:30). Read the Bible
Gaythiests are far more annoying than the pious.
Part of the meaning of this statement is lost in translation from Greek to English. Jesus uses the "neuter" form of the Greek word for "one" here, implying that they are "unity." Rather than saying that Jesus and God are the same person, Jesus is claiming that He and God are unified as one, a partial explanation of the Trinity.
The Trinity only exists to obfuscate the obvious incestuous implications of God impregnating Mary (Matthew 1:18) to give birth to Jesus which, if you take him at his word that he IS God (John 10:30) means he came into existence by an act of magical incest with his own mother.
A husband and wife are "one" but also separate individuals. You can be "one" in the sense of being in alignment without being literally the same person. Do you also think when people talk about things like being "one with the universe" they mean literally BEING the universe in a literal sense?
I question trinitarian doctrine. The Bible seems to better support the idea that God and Jesus are separate beings, but the early church just got worked up over being called polytheists and came up with the concept of the Trinity to further separate themselves from the surrounding pagans.
A jew is NOT god.
raptured
That's just american protestancuck fanfiction, based Mel is Catholic.
Is there any cast leak yet?
Magic isnt real
You're really overthinking the writing of some goatfucking mudhut dwellers
Just two more weeks until Jesus returns.
post yfw realizing God is real
Who plays Jesus, and whether the Jewish plot will be included
John
Written at least 50 years after his death.
No, it's the Trinitarians who overthink it and bend over backward to hold together their flimsy logic with all sorts of forced double meanings and implications that misrepresent the text. It requires zero extra thought to say, "Jesus talks to God, so they must be separate individuals."
Ugh, why are Christians genociding Gazans? They are so hateful!
it's the same actor as the first one
Jesus was a jew and looked like this
Jesus comes back after 3 days
looks 25 years older
"I died, but I returned to life."
"Mostly."
jej
Im ok with that.
Jesus is one with God but he was sent to us as the Son, so that we could better understand that through him we are brothers among ourselves and God's true children, heirs of his kingdom.
Also, Jesus' words on the cross should be seen mainly as a fulfillment of Psalm 22
Jesus was a jew
Not in the modern sense, no. Modern jews descend from the Pharisees that wanted him killed for speaking out against their corruption of God's word.
Every gospel of the New Testament was written decades after the crucifixion.
Not in the modern sense, no.
He was a Jewish Rabbi who taught strict adherence to the law of Moses.
Good thing men don't get walled easily. Just give him some hair and beard dye and he's good to go.
who taught strict adherence to the law of Moses
Found the retard.
He even calls himself Jewish lol
That’s who he was, everything else is Christian fanfiction, especially the shit Paul wrote.
2000 years later
let me explain your holy book to you
Atheists are brainlets
Yeah he only gave away his weekend got instantly promoted to 2nd in command of heaven. Such a big sacrifice, all it proves is God has a torture fetish
Can I get a publication date on that ? Kek
If X then how about irrelevant time wasting question
So he walked as resurrected for about 40 days. What was he doing at that time?
look up Early Life
jewish
everytime
Religion just tries to explain the things science can’t.
Religion has answers to questions that don’t have answers. Humans want to know “why” when there is no “why” only “how”
hows it irrelevant? If you think you're dying forever that's a sacrifice on your part, isn't it?
There is no “why?”
Which you magically know because….?
Read the image, it's a mistranslation. The word "Judean" was replaced with "Jew." Jew wasn't a word in Jesus' time.
Which you magically know because….?
Every attempt at coming up with one has failed. It’s a bad question to begin with. It’s why people can and will go around in circles for eternity because no answer is falsifiable.
mel gibson
rapture
OP retard confirmed
People called him Rabbi because they didn't know how else to call a man who was so well educated on the scriptures and preached in public.
It was the pharisees who followed the law of Moses (emphasis on Moses, not God) too stricty and in a bureaucratic manner that devalued them of meaning. They hated Jesus because, among which, he put God and people first, not some old words set in stone (by performing miracles on the resting day, not stoning the adulteress, giving new commandments about loving God and our neighbors as the most important ones to follow, etc)
Unless they're saying the father, the son and the holy spirit are 3 components that comprise God. so The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, but it's the same entity in a different state of existence
This better be a fucking troll. If you don't even know the Holy Trinity you have no place in religious discussions
Muslims can say the same because Jesus is one of their prophets lol
What will it even look like?
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If Heisenberg's quote made any goddamn sense then God's existance would have been scientifically proven but it's still anything but.
Believing god will never be either high IQ or low IQ, because faith exists entirely outside of reason and intelligence. And I mean that respectfully, not as an attack. That's just how it works, it is called faith for a reason. Nobody says they know God exists, they believe it.
He would have died of old age, after curing all diseases in the world. This would have been a huge loss in revenue, so the small hat tribe got him killed.
The Trinity is cope for the early church.
Heathens, stop worshiping your false idols and worship the ONE TRUE GOD! Monotheism is the only way!
ONE true God? What about Jesus? Don't you worship him?
No-- well, yes, but...
And you're always talking about that Holy Spirit, too. Isn't that another god?
It's not the same!
Seems like you worship multiple gods just like us.
LOOK THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE SAME GOD OKAY?!! WE'RE MONOTHEISTIC UNLIKE YOU HEATHENS!!!!
Whatever you say, man...
Early Christians before the church did not have the concept of the Trinity and didn't consider Jesus to literally be the same being as God.
God used their wickedness in service of a greater good. He knew they would reject Jesus, so he subverted their betrayal.
This is correct. I have never meant a trinitarian who can explain the Trinity beyond the surface level. They always fall into modalism, partialism, tritheism, or some other heresy.
Look up what Einstein actually believed. He barely could be called religious at all, he believed in some kind of vague force in the order of things and just the general idea that we understand jack fucking shit about the universe. Actual religion like christianity and judaism he saw as obvious baloney
Chad honestly. Also looks exactly like me but with dark skin
He could’ve done it without the torture. Was he a masochist?
Early Christians before the church
Also known as Second Temple Jews. Obviously they didn't understand the Trinity until after the Resurrection. There are records from the Church in the first and second centuries that clearly display an understanding of the Trinity, and yet there are no records indicating that this teaching has anything to do with Hellenistic paganism. but instead in trying to understand the relationship between Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and their Father. On the contrary, Greek and Roman pagans began to develop their own versions of the Trinity as a reaction against Christianity.
this Jew wasn’t actually a Jew, yknow
Shabbos goy.
The only movie I've ever cried in was Passion of the Christ. I was openly weeping through the whole last 3rd of the movie
absolute cringe
couldn't help it, the tears just flowed out of me
If Heisenberg's quote made any goddamn sense then God's existance would have been scientifically proven but it's still anything but.
How could it possibly be 'scientifically proven', especially with modern tools? Do you suggest that God can be found in a test tube or with a telescope? Is he somewhere in a supercollider? Where do you expect Science to find God?
BUT EVERYTHING CAN BE SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN!
No. Actually, it can't. This is the ultimate materialistic delusion. Science is very useful, but it has limits like everything. Saying empiricism is the end all be all to what is or isn't true in the universe is laughable, especially when you get into shit like "Dark Matter" or "Dark Energy", which science cannot observe and can only speculate about. Neither of those are 'God', but they do represent examples where empiricism fails to properly explain the full nature of the universe. Lots of things exist that are neither observable or testible.
BUT SCIENCE!
Anyone who continues past this point is just a empiricism cultist, no better than the religions they claim to be against.
didn't consider Jesus to literally be the same being as God.
Jesus:
"I and my Father are one."
"All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him."
“All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
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Make a religious porn movie that only rednecks and white trash like
Get drunk and when a cop pulls you over you express your love for sand niggers
Beg your Jewish overlords for forgiveness and apologize multiple times, but they show no mercy and kill your career
Become an even bigger alcoholic in your depression
Your wife cucks you for a nigger
You get caught on tape crying about how upset you are that your wife is cucking you for a nigger
Has a retarded son
Now trying to appease his masters by making an anti-war movie glamorizing a soldier who refused to kill the enemy, starring a Jewish actor
donate to Holocaust charities
Now further trying to appease leftist hollywood by making a police brutality movie written and directed by a JEW. #BlackLivesMatter!
Is there a bigger cuck in Hollywood than Mel Gibson?
Of course there are things that science can't explain (or at least, that it can't explain yet). Using that as evidence for God is a ridiculous leap.
empiricism cultist, no better than the religions they claim to be against
Being an "empiricism cultist" just means you believe shit if you see proof if its existance right in front of your naked eyes. Being religious means you believe something even though you've never ever seen God or any evidence of its existance. These two are obviously very different things
I don't think Mel Gibson was ever as much of a racist or antisemite as he was made out to be. I think he was mostly just very, very drunk all the time.
You're really bothering to answer that?
Would you die for 3 days just so some furry faggot has a chance of being saved? Would you do it for 2 furry fags, 3? Again, just a chance, they still can waste your sacrifice. Would you do it for all disgusting retards?
These are mental gymnastics. Jesus taught the law, in fact, he doubled down on specific commandments. He went from “don’t sleep with your neighbors wife” to “don’t even lust”.
If I knew I'd come back no problem, sure, as I'm not technically even dying - more like just taking a hiatus for a few days. Plus imagine all the needless clout you'd get after that "sacrifice" for "saving" the disgusting people you mention.
Tell me how I'm wrong then. Also I'm not an atheist, I'm a deist.
Christians have done more damage to the reputation of their own faith than a million billion atheists ever could
We are talking about long, torturous death here of course. And then 3 days in hell too. Not for your own gratification, but to save the worst people who ever lived. You wouldn't do it, no one would, God in human form was afraid to do it.
Nowhere in the Bible does it even imply Jesus went to Hell after the crucifixion lol, that's complete Catholic headcanon. Also plenty of real life martyrs suffered horribly for their causes, including Jesus's own apostles, so the argument, "only the son of God would die violently for a cause" is complete bullshit.
God in human form was afraid to do it.
lmao you sound like an actual christcuck
Furthermore, how is the crucifixion meant to "save the worst people who ever lived" if all non-Christians still canonically go to Hell? The more you think about Jesus's "sacrifice" the less compelling it is (which is why Christians are taught never to question it).
Mark Wahlberg and Saudi investors
The Passion of the Christ
The Resurrection of the Christ
The Revelation of the Christ
Do it Mel.
My favourite one is "god is beyond human comprehension you're not supposed to be able to understand how the trinity works"
It doesnt matter what you ask you will just respond with yet another irrelevant time wasting question as though thats a trump card. Always deflecting in proper jew fashion.
Nowhere in the Bible does it even imply Jesus went to Hell after the crucifixion
nta but there's Matthew 12:40
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly, so shall the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Good, we can see Leftoids and Jews buddy up again to mutually seethe over this
Keep on trucking Mel you crazy catholic
Banana bros we can't tolerate this christian filth! We need to boycott it so we can insure the future is brown and Islamic!
Quick my Fedora keyboards warriors! To the message boards to the comment sections unleash our EUPHORIA!!!
CHRIST IS KING
nhh
Nowhere in the Bible does it even imply Jesus went to Hell after the crucifixion lol, that's complete Catholic headcanon.
Matthew 12 40. Also not part of the bible but apostle's creed, one of the apostles was head of church here, pretty much given the power to make the rules
Also plenty of real life martyrs suffered horribly for their causes, including Jesus's own apostles
True, but there's different stakes at play here, martyrs died for their faith
"Heart of the Earth" =/= Hell
Yea I’m always baffled whenever someone says Jesus never claimed to be God. He’s extremely explicit about it.
Unless they're saying the father, the son and the holy spirit are 3 components that comprise God.
It really is that stupid and nonsensical. The dumb christians will say it makes sense and yap some bullshit at you. The smart ones just say “it’s a mystery” (requires belief imagine that).
Nobody can actually make sense of it and this isn’t a new problem. It’s made no sense since day one, which is why you immediately got christian offshoots that took completely different takes on the bullshit. From believing that there are two gods in zoroastrian fashion (since the OT one is clearly an asshole, an observation christians cling to even today but say he got better) to gnostic mysticism and renouncing the flesh and the crappy creation altogether. Syncretic offshoots like Manicheanisn became really popular for a while. Even later the trinitarians fight over in what way the Jesus is supposed to be God and that’s not decided until the nicene creed after Constantine told them to get a solution. Of course that didn’t actually fix things since you get alternative interpretations and an explosion of them with the reformation. Even non trinitarian christians.
And it’s all mostly moot since most christians never read the bible or bother learning doctrine in the first place.
desu, the belief religious people have that they will go to hell for interpreting something slightly wrong is a memetic hazard, and we'd all be a lot happier and more enlightened if they didn't do that shit.
desu, the gnostic idea of Jesus being some part of the true god, that snuck through into creation as a messenger, makes more immediate sense.
since the OT one is clearly an asshole
tbf he gave a promise to a devout believer knowing damn well that his offspring are jews
JESUS IS BACK
AND HE AIN'T CRUCI-FUCKIN' AROUND
It was still extremely painful
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