The rest is just the same, isn't it?
The rest is just the same, isn't it?
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This movie gave me a powdered wig on topless cutie fetish
If it were me in that room it wouldn't have gone down like that. I'm just saying there would've been a lot of "wow great idea! Thanks Mozart!" in that room.
So Amadayoos was autistic right? He's what Anon Babble nerds wish they were. Talented and charming and beloved by everyone?
Anon Babble is full of Salieris.
Imagine being Salieri in this scene. Imagine just having to stand there and take it as you get mogged into the shadow realm.
Yes that is correct.
Seethe because it is correct
Such is life. Mediocrity cannot hide.
Wolfgang was autistic, Amadeus was just bein cheeky
I still haven't seen it. My brother isn't too big on movies, but this is the only one he's ever mentioned to me and recommended. So maybe I should watch it. It has the guy who killed Moe Zart no?
Yes you should watch it, but watch the director's cut. A lot of people hate it but I think it's great and adds a lot more depth to Salieri.
Too many notes
do not watch the director's cut
Were there any other notable autists pre 1500s?
the duality of man.
Claudius
The Bible is pretty long.
Was he an autist or no?
watch the director's cut. A lot of people hate it but I think it's great and adds a lot more depth to Salieri.
Don't listen to this retard. The director's cut is pure trash
destroys the films pacing
Salieri goes from a relatable guy who tried hard but could never be as good as Mozart in the theatrical cut, to a complete asshole in the DC
Director's cut sucks ass
"Uhhhh... yeah? It's a bloody march, not a symphony! Where'd you get this guy? No wonder I got the medallion instead."
I walk away but then come back into the room.
"And by the way. Yo daddy ain't shit neither!"
I'm one of the nutters who thinks the extended cut, I find the pacing of the second half too truncated without some of the extra scenes even if it's not perfect for other reasons.
The scenes in the director's cut shows just how much Salieri's jealousy has corrupted him. And it's not like he totally succumbs to those temptations either. He thinks about taking advantage of Mozart's wife but comes to his senses lets her go. It's not any less relatable and he still comes out a basically decent man who let resentment and insecurity get the best of him.
The scenes in the director's cut shows just how much Salieri's jealousy has corrupted him.
It makes it a different movie and made Salieri a slimy douchebag. You felt sympathy for him in the theatrical cut. The director's cut just made him le bad guy.
The Director's Cut was unironically "too many notes".
Yup, exactly this. Resentment and jealousy can bring real ugliness out of people
This whole thing could have been avoided if he knew how to banter.
More like if he had gotten laid.
He really didn't have to "offer up his chastity," it's nutty that he did and it clearly gave him a lot of trouble. The man at the very least probably needed to jerk off more often.
Humiliation ritual.
I think it alludes to his inferiority complex and the fact it never really had anything to do with Mozart. He can't imagine he'll become a great composer just by working hard at it. He has to make a pact with God and offer up a sacrifice.
It's always fun to think that real Salieri was a turbochad with eight children and a drove of mistresses, and was actually pretty close with Mozart.
Too many notes!
Austria-Hungary seems like it was a great place and I'm sad it doesn't exist any more.
I thought they were in italy
nope.
and you're objectively wrong for thinking this.
This film helped me cope that I'm just mediocre.
It was a glimpse Into America's future, complete demographic collapse followed by partitioning, same goes for Yugoslavia
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I've only ever seen the director's cut, and he wasn't "le bad guy," he was still a sympathetic character. The movie's all about jealousy and the "unfairness" of how some people are gifted more than others. I don't think it would be nearly as good a film if jealousy DIDN'T bring some sliminess and nastiness out of Salieri. It's not a pretty emotion, but it's very human, and if you can't sympathize with an imperfect or complicated character that's your own problem
cant get the combo system down
think am i retarded or is this emulator fucked
yep turns out its desynced to the audio
have yet to find a good fix
I've been to Yugoslavia four times as a kid, when it still existed. Just thought I'd mention it.
Why don't you go slav on these nuts
That's really cool anon
Still the best rendition of the Meistersinger Overture I’ve heard was in this but I’m too lazy to try and figure out who performed it
I’m also sad about this. Vienna was an all time great cultural center before the First World War and the Hungarians were pretty cool too before everyone got utterly buttfucked in the war, and still despite everything Vienna and Budapest are all time great European cities to this day. Other repliers are likely seething Slavs (and not even the Russian kind) and Shitalians who couldn’t cope with being ruled over by their German OVERLORDS and Hungarian Chads
Thanks.
"le bad guy," he was still a sympathetic character.
He literally tries to paint Mozart as a pedophile by spreading rumors about him. Fucking retard.
character does bad things
I am now incapable of sympathizing with them
How old are you?
The theatrical cut still has him turn increasingly nasty and manipulative, his corruption is just linked more clearly with his overwhelming love of music and God's perceived mockery and less with a base obsession with sex.
Yeah and nobody would ever do something like that out of jealousy
Again, you're a retard. He did bad things in the theatrical cut, but it was within reason and was clearly the actions of a man acting out of jealousy and trying to win in the end. In the directors cut it's petty, goes too far, and makes the audience lose all sympathy for him. You are honestly telling me that you feel sympathy for a man that falsey accuses a colleague of being a fucking pedo?
kys retard
his corruption is just linked more clearly with his overwhelming love of music and God's perceived mockery and less with a base obsession with sex.
So, less like an actual believable human being, then. Mozart's out-in-the-open sexual behavior was a big part of the film and a big part of Salieri's jealousy
I don't know who the fuck this is.
But Salieri in real life never did it, and in the movie you lose all sympathy for him. Do you have any sympathy for whoever that pic is of?
So, less like an actual believable human being, then.
No. People were much more devout back then.
Mozart's out-in-the-open sexual behavior was a big part of the film and a big part of Salieri's jealousy
No it wasn't. Salieri only cared when Mozart had slept with that opera singer that he was giving lessons to (because Salieri liked her). And it wasn't "out in the open" that Mozart slept with her, it was in secret.
You have the sensibilities of a child. You don't have sympathy for the actions he takes at his lowest, but you understand how he was driven there, he himself understands when he'd gone way too far, and he redeems himself by the end
It wouldn't be as good of a film if it didn't get ugly. I'm not as obsessed as you are with needing to see Salieri as a "good guy." But I don't think he's a one-dimensional "bad guy" either. He's an interesting character. The whole conflict of the film is that Mozart is bringing the worst out of him when Mozart hasn't intentionally wronged him in any way. His worst actions aren't "sympathetic," but his bitterness is human and understandable and well-written
kek
His religious fall from grace just has less impact when he seems to be desperate to fuck every women he meets from the start.
You have the sensibilities of a child.
You are ok with a guy who falsely accuses someone of being a pedo.
You don't have sympathy for the actions he takes at his lowest, but you understand how he was driven there
Not really. The theatrical cut handled his professional jealousy much better.
Salieri gets access to Mozarts apartment through the maid he hired
sees "Marriage of Figaro" on the billiard table
tells the music directors who tell the Emperor
Emperor is against it, but Mozart convinces him
not giving up, Salieri uses the Emperors own laws against Mozart by pointing out that dancing/music is not allowed in the Emperor's operas
But to you: "He's a pedo for underage girls" is better storytelling....
and he redeems himself by the end
He didn't. He only wanted the Requiem done for himself so he could take credit for it. He was mediocre til the very end and in the old age santirium he finally embraces it. Did you watch the fucking movie, retard?
It wouldn't be as good of a film if it didn't get ugly
Most agree the theatrical cut is better. And again, going too ugly makes you lose all sympathy for Salieri. Most people have lost something to someone better. What if a silver medalist in the Olympics accused the gold medalist of being a pedo? Would you be ok with and sympathize with him?
I'm not as obsessed as you are with needing to see Salieri as a "good guy."
You have zero reading comprehension. I never said "good guy". In the DC he is "le bad guy".
His worst actions aren't "sympathetic," but his bitterness is human and understandable and well-written
It literally isn't.
Do you think religious people don't have the same temptations as other people? The whole idea behind Salieri's vow of chastity was that he was making a sacrifice. It wouldn't be a sacrifice if he didn't feel those needs at all. It was also a stupid thing for him to do from the start, because God had never agreed to his "bargain," his celibacy had nothing to do with his talent or lack thereof, there was never any promise, except in his own mind, that his sacrifices would bring the kinds of rewards he felt entitled to
Honestly I think you just didn't get the character or the movie
It was also a stupid thing for him to do from the start, because God had never agreed to his "bargain," his celibacy had nothing to do with his talent or lack thereof, there was never any promise, except in his own mind, that his sacrifices would bring the kinds of rewards he felt entitled to
You don't understand the movie. Salieri prayed to God to be allowed to make music and in a very show time his father (who was against music) was dead, he was living in Vienna, and rose to become Court Composer. In his mind God and himself were both fulfilling their ends of the bargain. Then Mozart showed up and threw chaos into his entire belief system. It was a shocking fall from grace.