/Andor/ The Senate edition

she has a bigger one above one of her tits, its like a second nipple

Blame the faggots complaining about crunch.
Art has always been about sacrifice.

I don't want any more "Infinite Empire" or glup shitto garbage from Star Wars anymore, I just want grounded scifi thrillers.

Fuck that, The Force and the Jedi are the worst part of Star Wars and Andor proves that the franchise's attachment to them is holding it back.

i don't know what a 'Grand Moff' is, does he not receive a promotion in 10+ years? did the SECOND Ghorman massacre overshadow his moment of triumph? ;__;

Those fuckers were harvested for their glowy organs and force healing capabilities.

I miss feeling excited by groundbreaking CGI

feel excited again

Sounds like absolute dreck for dudebros

Better than more Filoni-slop. I wish Gilroy and this guy were put in charge of the post ROTJ stuff, so they could give us better New Republic intrigue kino

the early Je'daii

this is "George Lucas' original drafts" territory tbqh.

(the pulpy, 90s comics were a good approach.)

I'm not a retarded fashy manchild so that's a no from me dog.

The force is cringe.

we could have had New Republic trying to figure out how to administer a new government after decades of Imperial rule without every single minor race balkanizing the galaxy

we could have had Imperial warlords kino

we could have had comfy Luke Skywalker Jedi temple mysticism

>we could have had comfy Luke Skywalker Jedi temple mysticism

Fuck off

Han Solo, meet young Cara Dune
Nah I think she is just not important enough. Drop troopers on Endor could be interesting eyecandy, but we've had so much pew pew, I don't need. I wouldn't reject it tho.

ew.com/andor-creator-reveals-scrapped-k2so-horror-movie-episode-11728167

makes me think most of the seasons budget went on the last 3 episodes and making that city centre set that was in like 50% of shots this season

I feel like bad CGI really doesn't exist anymore desu.
Maybe in very rare circumstances but every big movie that comes out looks fine.

Just for reference, the last movie I watched where I was actively distracted by bad visual effects was The Flash.

Even if it's crunch now, it's like traditional animation. Yeah the in-betweens were basically outsourced horrific labour, but the cartoons themselves can be well-animated and look great.

Imagine going to some SIGGRAPH event in the 90s, everyone's stoked their technology is being used in the new Star Wars.

You're wrong and that's bad. Simulating hair isn't like, a physical wig, bro.

if we dont get a trilogy of Andor as a 5 year old im gonna be pissed

A GALAXY OF WORLDS
A GALAXY ASSEMBLED
AN EMPIRE!

aimed at kids

mostly in gibberish, unsubtitled alienese

Like the Ewok movies for a new generation.

reminder Darth, that fire burned your penis off.

Andor spinoff starring Mads Mikkelsen as Galen
It can be about how he slowly becomes disillusioned with the death star project
Like Oppenheimer

skeleton crew?

Thank you, prophet of regret

Too Halo inspired for me. Slightly better than JarJar Wars designs.

so what is the Senate? the first canon film calls it the 'Imperial Senate' and a remnant of the old Republic.
the last canon film has the Emperor reorganize it all into the first Galactic Empire.

THEY'RE not the ones representing their planet on behalf of the Empire, and so on? The Empire is still in the process of creeping INTO democracy? wut.

Who is this Jedi cutie?

You still have Jawas in '77 and the Ugnauts and Yoda in ESB unfortunately

He would have blown up Alderaan twice over that comment.

The Imperial Senate will no longer be of any concern to us. I've just received word that the Emperor has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.

ignore kanan comic and replace it with the opening scene of bad batch

ignore ahsoka novel flashback sections and replace it with siege of mandalore episodes

ignore one-off comic showing how andor met K2 and replace it with s2e8/9

strictly adhere to rebels and mothma's two speeches

weird how its hit and miss with what gets ignored and replaced and what doesn't so far

tfw you will never attend a Chandrilan rave, get ripped on glitterstim spice and have a drunk, sweaty Mon Mothma grind on your shit

comic

novel

comic

tv show

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm I wonder

Seeing the Jedi (or Sith) from the perspective of ordinary schmucks would be cool.

Star wars likes to portray Jedi as wholesome paragons of virtue, but what gets glossed over is that they are kinda freaky, paranormal and superhuman compared to ordinary people.
You see Cassian freak out a bit with force healer, i think that's quite interesting.

The amount of zoomers ITT who have clearly not seen A New Hope disgusts me.

I think it's pretty clear. They try to accommodate them, but are only forced to accommodate the TV shows.

Do they really expect us to believe that these completely alien freak monsters have agreed to send a Senator to serve in a democratic parliament fighting for truth, justice & the American way?
Star Wars went off the rails when they showed what the Senate actually was. Space Washington. Everything that made Star Wars otherworldly was abandonded that day.

And reminder /ourguy/ Rian Johnson is confirmed to write and direct the first film of a new trilogy

It's still spiritual bullshit and cuts completely counter to the materialist narrative presented in Andor/R1.

completely alien freak monsters

Yeah the ones in the cantina are. Thats like showing a biker gang in a shitty dive bar and saying "Do we really believe these freak monsters agreed to send someone to Washington?"

The canon tiers were a better system. Retcons clearly will always happen otherwise.

why would someone want to watch an ugly 50 year old movie lol

You realize Saudi Arabia, Russia and North Korea are in the UN?

They'd been doing so for 25,000 years. The survivors of the collapse of the Rakata banded together for mutual benefit/defense against being subjugated again.

Like the idea, but there's literally already a book that does this.

exactly. so it's around, the governors get 'direct control' instead.

basically i'd assume the IMPERIAL Senate is an internal thing: essentially what the ISB and such are doing in this show. "we need more Imperial forces on Blatooine", "great, and we're running low on spaceship fuel."

but they're still negotiating policies and so on? separate planets coming together and having disagreements? that's not where it was left off in RotS.

This but unironically. SW '77 hasn't ages well at all and neither has Empire for that matter but that's a discussion for another day

grand mon mothma tarkin

boring conversation anyway

kek

He should be a high functioning alcoholic and dancer.

Release the theatrical edition with all the wonky compositing (horrible outlines on things) and film grain for the purists.

Do a 'semi' Special Edition with the decent changes that make it look more like a modern film.

Big, overpriced set for the hardcore collectors. People will lap it up.

zoomers

Generation Zeon

Yes. And include Luthen.

based retard

They're the good guys fighting against the Empire, thoever.

that's not where it was left off in RotS

The senate was never dissolved in RotS, it still existed, specifically to accommodate the line from the New Hope opening

If Star Wars is Space Washington I guess Palpatine must be Nixon.
That would be in character for Lucas.

AAIIIIEEEEE

America is also part of the UN.

nah, i'm right. i get that it's a retcon, this is more interesting. rushing to wrap EVERYTHING up in RotS was silly. obviously it should have been a slower process.

just don't get what the status is WITHIN this story, the one they're putting out now. is Mon Mothma not the representative for whatever in the Imperial Senate? negotiating with/for/on behalf of the Empire?

WE ARE THE GHOR.

I would Ghor her with my penis if you know what I mean*

*A play on words because Ghor sounds like Gore and To Gore means to pierce

Do you think the Roman Senate disappeared the second Augustus took power?

See

mfw all those Star Wars 'fans' claiming they're 'done with Star Wars' will be lapping up Ryan Gosling's movie

Where was he at the Andor timeline?

retcon

When did he dissolve the senate in ROTS?

story group has no teeth
if an established writer/showrunner comes along (gilroy) why would they protest

He's a Palpatine supporter.

I was 100% onboard until I heard it's going to be focused on Goose training a little kid.
It had potential to be Drive or BR2049 tier until I heard that.

Everyone blamed him for Palpatine and he was exiled.
This really doesn't make sense in current canon since apparently everyone loved the Emperor in the senate so realistically Jar Jar should've been loved

He got exiled to Naboo after RotS and became a street performer

I dunno but I hope he fucked died.

friggin Blandor

He'd be around 90 years old. Dunno how long his species gets to live but he's most likely dead.

Sorry, should have been this guy. His entire purpose is to run things in Sheev's absence. Not this previously never seen never mentioned Halo looking motherfucker.

This goofy ass dude is almost single-handedly the reason why nobody takes the prequels seriously

No, you've got a bad read on the timeline.
It's

Jar Jar helps Palpy rise to Emperor

Jar Jar and Naboo as a whole are in Palpy's favor

Death Star makes everyone hate the Emperor

after second Death Star blown up, Jar Jar is exiled

nope: but i took the implication to be there was a senate WITHIN the general framework of the Empire: by the time of the first Star Wars, that was still 2democratic4them (and/or not evil enough) so the dictator for Space Zone 12 gets more authoritative decision-making power (just skip past all that silly, democratic bureaucracy).

i'd see it a bit like showing up to a soviet or Nazi meeting and not saying, "we should do x, y, z according to our beliefs" and STILL disagreeing with "the whole communism/national socialism thing". they didn't tend to take kindly to that.

that seems to be the position Palpatine leaves the Senate in. so has Mon Mothma been saying very moderate or even pro-Empire stuff for twenty years?

So the zoom zooms are in favor of female protagonists like Rey and Kamille? How brave.

i'm not saying he dissolved the senate, at all. my posts are ABOUT 'the Imperial Senate', anon.

Doubt, he was still a young nibba at Padme's funeral

Thriving at Yadungoff planet

Jar Jar is just the Syril of his time.

no, they have a huge numbers of problems and are only saved by good story concepts and a few of the cast like McGregor and McDiarmid.

we did it

and became a street performer

funny how this is canon

and nothing of value was lost.

Goddamn I can't stand this guy. I appreciate his ship autism, but Jesus christ, does he have to always be a fucking soulless mrbeast clone? Worse than the fucking theory dude. Is there any star wars content creator that is just chill and autistic about ship lore?

we need someone like Andor but alive for Gilroy's next dark and gritty Star Wars project

he is already in the dressing room sir

You know nothing retard. Andor isn't good because there's no Jedi. Andor is good because it's written, produced and acted well.

The last three episodes will be either gigakino or the most mediocre slop in existence. No inbetween

Lea Martinez

chill and autistic

like being thin and fat

You will never write anything good with muppet wizard space samurai who pratice reiki

there's no Jedi

and yet somehow Cassian is now a messenger of the force who has a purpose like Jesus. Might as well give him a lightsaber or two at this point.

At absolute worst it will be mid.

Topping Mothma kino would be hard, so don't get your hopes too high.

I'm wondering what the post-credits scene for the last episode will be

They could've ended it at episode 9 and I would've been satisfied. Everything is basically in place for Rogue One at this point.

I bet these dumb cosplay cunts have no idea of their job discription or what they are actually supposed to be. A free roaming dark side user? In what era would that be possible? I love being evil tihiihiii

Galactic Republic Senate got renamed as the Imperial Senate when Palpatine took over and renamed shit to the Galactic Empire. The main difference between the two is that the Imperial Senate holds barely any power because it all got shifted to Palpatine. All they do is bitch about their problems and maybe ask individual planets to help out with issues; but it's not like in the Galactic Republic where they could vote and (maybe) get stuff done. Until it's shut down in ANH, the Imperial Senate is just to let people think democracy is still working, but it's entirely for show.

What you're thinking about, of an internal collective managing planets for the Empire, is with Moffs and the Council of Moffs.

may as well give him force sense, force telekinesis, force X and Y

aaand its capeshit

we're going to react like this post is true even if it isn't, lol

And no you see the problem with non-Gilroy Star Wars.

(Me)
*now

She cosplays as actual characters but sometimes she just does photoshoots with the lightsabers

never even showed the spiders (not in a propagnda video)

Wtf I was growing to think they were cute based off the little figures

You do see one moving around in the orb at the shop

You know I'm wondering, are they even going to make more shows in the next 5 years?
For now the only shows coming are Ashoka season 2, the anime non canon stuff (I think they are not canon ?), Maul and probably a few Tales stuff
But after this, nothing
All other live action plans are movies. even Mandalorian
They probably won't make any big announcement until the next star wars celebration, that's where they usually announce shows right? that one is in 2027

i'm pretty sure there was a shot of one in a glass sphere in one of the fabric shops

Uhhhhh. Wait. So what about Mon's daughter. She gets married and then isn't a consideration at all? Or Mon's husband? Nothing?
Obviously both of them would not have been on board, but that's where the drama is. Not even a line about?
I swear, so much of this season feels like they took a hacksaw to it.

yep this

Everything for the cause.

Gilroy said that Disney has a Star Wars horror project in development but we don't know if its a show or movie. In general Disney is scaling back their live-action shows for Marvel and SW and focusing on movies it seems.

All other live action plans are movies. even Mandalorian

Yeah it's weird and I still doubt that Mando will actually be shown in the kinoplex. I assume it will be released the same day on streaming because they know that a Mando movie has zero pull. We're not in a Rogue One situation anymore where everyone was thirsting after more Star Wars.

Who fucking cares?

Literally called "the Ee'Teeans"

fucking hack job

Right, that's what the conclusion would be. But seeing Mon finally deciding on that is such an obvious thing to put in.... Like that's basically the whole fucking point of the daughter and husband being characters at all. Where is the conclusion to all of that, they had HOURS of screen time at this point.

It's a filler episode only to move the plot. Mothma need shekel or whatever, so she sold her daughter to the richest most scummiest bastard on the entire goddamn galaxy.

They may cover that in the remaining episodes, Vel is there as well remember.

Disney+ has low key been a massive money drain for them. Tony Gilroy even says that Andor s2 had its budget slashed massively compared to s1.

it's so weird because that Gosling movie would be a better "new star wars movie", Mando as a movie is a terrible choice, many people have not seeing the show, why would they see the movie which is a direct sequel to it?

We still have three episodes left

They probably will make another full length show in the Clone Wars are style since they have all the assets for that. In addition, they will probably release more tales short series too. But I think it might be good to take a break. If anything, they need to get their shit together when it comes to vidya. A third cal kestis game is happening and they need a shooter too, since EA abandoned battlefront 2 and canceled the OT era fps.

Both of them are going to be executed on live tv in episode 10.

They have teased a new Clone Wars show centered around Cody, dunno if it's just going to be 11 minute shorts like in the Tales of shows tho.

the animated part is probably safe, it's the live action series that seems more in trouble.
As for vidya yeah, there's that respawn x-com like that's releasing, the Ubisoft game also is getting DLCs (that one was fine but it's a Ubisoft game so don't expect something surprising just something that works) and there's the David Cage game... But they need to do more.

Well we still have 3 episodes left. Would be interesting if they made perrin and mon's daughter propaganda tools, forcing them to denounce mon to the entire galaxy as a terrorist and the true mastermind of ghorman.

a Mando movie has zero pull

even normie girls were freaking out about baby yeed tho, on the other hands its been years now and maybe most of them have forgotten about that by now

it could be a single season project of the clone rebellion with Cody, Rex, Echo, Wolf, Gregor and the girl clone who worked with Hemlock (forgot her name), with 25/30 minutes episodes.

episode 10 opens with Palpy lowering Mon's daughter into molten lava while cackling.

Especially in the multiplayer realm. You can't ride off fortnite shit forever. At some point, there's going to be demand to have a shooter where you can be a stormtrooper/rebel. Andor could have had some great tie ins with Battefront 2.

You are probably right. Husband and daughter already hate her guts. Palp don't even need to force them to hate Mon, it will happen naturally.

ask simple, logical question about narrative structure

get 5 (now 6) responses

you hit the nail on the head, anon. there's something seriously wrong with this season, and everyone has turned their brain off for some reason. except (you).

Respawn's titanfall team had a FPS project where you played as some mandalorian but it got canceled

It's a discussion board, retard.

I don't think her husband hate her, even at the end of the party he clearly looks worried about something looking at her, I think he's going to try helping her and it will go very wrong
Her daughter hate her for sure though

your arc will be cut short that much is certain

my point is, it's weird no one has discussed it until now. it's a discussion board, but apparently only me and have their brains turned on.

the plot hole is that even if they hate her, she doesn't hate them, so threats to their lives could put Mon in in a compromised position as a leader.

given the amount of time they got in the first episodes I think Gilroy will want to address the issue somehow. maybe rescuing MiniMothra is a serious enough deal to be what leads to various character deaths.

It's kinda on and off situation with her husband.

A Senate is not necessarily democratic.
Neither is a Republic for that matter.

I'm not him, but I did actually make a similar point after the episode came out. I posted

What if the empire make Syril into a massive hero who "tried to fight the evil ghormans" and Dedra has to watch her lover become the Imperial symbol for the massacre she carried out.

cant believe I didnt notice how weird that is........!

why would any human trust this guy.
The fuck is with these overtly evil designs and humans just not giving a fuck.

Reminder all nu wars is faggot shit

His mom and Uncle Harlo will make sure that happen.

I still can't believe they called him Grogu. What the fuck were they thinking lmao.

Now there there's going to be a film in the Box office with 'grogu' in the title.

i bestow upon u the medal of 'had their brain turned on when watching andor season 2'

A subtle reminder to the audience of muh holocaust of six gorillion oven

It has to be streamed day 0 or else
my gf is in her let's find out what anon likes phase
insist to watch everything with me. And when I try to explain to her in simple words the necessity of extra spatial dimension in order to make superluminal space flight possible, she always says she understands only to ask the same bullshit five minutes later. Shit makes me angry. It's just not healthy. It's for the mancave only.

She clearly gave up on the daughter at the wedding arc after she said some vile things to her face before the ceremony. The daughter has been hating her since season 1.

That's racist.

It would be funnier if he is never mentioned again. Like no memorial. No funeral. Nobody mentions his name.

more fagloni slop?

let's find out what anon likes

The answer is always sex anon, not star wars slop. Go fuck her while she is still willing to do it.

Q: what does he like?

A: getting angry about sci-fi mechanics being violated

Conclusion: I will ask him about sci-fi mechanics more often

you'll work it out it's just going to take time

They're on Chandrila, they have resources to react

you think that makes it less likely but this is ADULT star wars.
her daughter not even liking her actually makes needing to rescue her into a cooler, more layered character moment for everyone.

Anyone think we get Vader next week?

With the Death Star being complete it would feel weird without it.

or highly ironic things that add insult to injury.
like Dedra accepting a position on the Death Star after a conversation with his mother where they agree its what he would have wanted.

God I hope not.
He would show up and mug the camera for 30 seconds to give people time to clap and then disappear without doing anything note worthy.
Him showing up at the end of Rogue One was painful enough.

This show has had more than enough force. I can appreciate the point of the force healer but anything more than that is too far

Adult star wars where the galaxy is at stake. She also must choose, family or the rest of the galaxy. Welcome to the rebellion episode was the first time she realized of the hard consequences she must endure because of her own actions. I thought this was obvious for everyone.

Vader shows up

he dies from falling over in the bath

Andor series ends with Vader dead and no further attempt at resolution

I prefer Galen Erso desu.

of the three, Palps, Tarkin, or him, he would make the most sense
Palps have to pay Ian McD for one scene or whatever.
I suppose if they put the Punished Sheev mask on some random actor they could get away with no hiring Ian for it
CGI Tarkin would probably cost too much
Vader they can just put some guy in the suit and AI the voice like they did in RO
but nothing has happened during the show that would warrant a personal appearance by any of them really
Dedra didn't fail, her plan actually worked. Empire got the result it wanted. Why would they punish her?
maybe if they fuck up catching Luthen or something. you get a scene with the Emperor telling whomever he's
very displeased yada yada then a door opens and Vader walks in

I'll add I would be okay with Palpatine showing up. It makes sense he would want to address Mon's allegations and isn't beyond the scope of the show. Even as a background hologram would be fine. But Vader would just be so retarded.

Speak for yourself, the hallway scene was pure kino

Vader thought the death star was trash.

rescuing princesses is too much of a trope. you wouldn't want this annoying little shit to be fed into an incineration unit would you?

Not really. Vader at his fucking prime couldn't move fast enough to get a holodisc out of some shitters hand.
He couldn't use the force to slam the door on the guys hand?
Makes him look way weaker than he should be.

Need a Ian Emperor scene at least

save to say the princess is no longer on Chandrila

People who want Sheev, do you want him like this or disfigured?

in spite of what clapping seals think, Rogue One works because the whole third act works not because Vader shows up at the very end.

I think it's pretty logical for him to use a fake hologram so he doesn't look like monster mash to the entire galaxy

I found that scene in rebels weird because sheev literally broadcasted to the entire galaxy that he got scarred and deformed by the jedi. His face was visible, camera druids were circling around him at his eye level.

I always thought the "The attempt on my life has left me scarred and deformed" thing was stupid when they could've done this. But since they already did that, why bother at that point

but his resolve had never been stronga

It could've healed I guess

Vader likes to play with his food. Basking in the fear of those he kills is the closest he gets to vacation time these days

Lea Martinez

Chicks dig the dark saber

Except he lets them get away with a shoulder shrug and a disappointed sigh.
What happened to Sith pulling starships out of the sky?

What happened to Sith pulling starships out of the sky?

gay overpowered nonsense.

One is Vader and Padme's daughter, one is a literal who. Off to the oven you go.

TFU is not canon anymore and thers a difference between a small transport ship in kenobi and a full sized corvette.

He's 100% going to be remembered in some way by the Empire. Pretty much every Imperial that died will. The galaxy is big enough for a "Syril Memorial Street".

He got burnt to crisp by lava. Have some pity for the mouth breather.

even the usual grifters are in love with Andor

Andorbros, we fucking won.

He set off right after them, which leads to the opening of Episode IV. He didn't let anyone get away, they just bought themselves a few extra minutes of fleeing time.

Cut To: Street Sign that reads "Cereal Memorial"

Camera pans down to reveal broken asphalt and deathstick addicts strewn across the pavement

A massive Bantha walks by and shits on the ground

I need Saw to be shown beheading Imperial collaborators, their kids too.
I need to see why the rebels call him an extremist when they're also a bunch of murderers and thieves.

He always praise Andor.

Depends if they can finish it off strong. Also what it will really do is remind people who haven't seen Rogue One in a while how pretty bad that movie is

If the Sith were that powerful all the time, what the actual FUCK would Palpatine need the Empire for? Fluffing his ego?

The lack of Saw in Andor makes me wonder if they're thinking of giving him his own miniseries or something.

They got him

been a long long time since i've given two shits about hollywood award shows but I'm actually really hoping
the cast of crew get recognized for this in some way. idk what the viewing numbers are like for it but winning
a bunch of awards might convince Yidsney to do more stuff like this down the road, but aside from that the
cast and production people absolutely deserve recognition for it

Alternatively

it's a nice little park in the slums of Coruscant

couples go on dates there

children play there

there is law and order

cut to statue of Syril, finally at peace

Well obviously it requires great effort and only the most powerful can actually do it.

Forest Whittaker is old as fuck, no

why the rebels call him an extremist

It's from his rhydo huffing bygone days

one of the deathstick junkies is a former Moff

"I ADMINISTERED 30 DOZEN PLANETS, YA KNOW!" he screams out of a mouth with three teeth, total

flash forward to the fall of the empire

the park is torn apart, there is an open rebellion

the statue is pulled down by rebels

final shot is the statue lying on the ground in the same way Syril's body was lying.

thought he'd be a contrarian, considering how he went back and forth on Gina Carano based on her politics

Good for him

63 isn't old anymore.

Syril VO: I am Ozymandias...

He just needs some testosterone and HGH. He'll be fine.

based men beater

giwtwm
especially if we did empire/rebel roleplay

63

Skarsgaard is 73 ya know

More of the bad batch director probably, Filoni only directed the first episode of bad batch, everyone just think he did the rest and keep crediting him as such, outside of tales he doesn't touch much the animated stuff and has done so since the end of Rebels

they actually had Ian back as Palp in Bad Batch, Rebels and Kenobi, it be easy to have him back

The Ghorman massacre didn't feel grand enough. There are bigger parking lots than Space Paris Square and they only showed us this one location for the duration of all episodes.

Fair criticism, but Disney slashed the budget so blame them.

he was specifically doing this to bait Ezra, who's a random kid from a backwater planet so he doesn't know how he looks, he would look more trusting looking like this

He's going to come crawling back for Ryan Gosling's movie

The Ghorman massacre didn't feel grand enough

Gosling is always kino so understandable, it could literally just be "drive in space" and it would be awesome

they should also let him come up with ideas for it, he has kino ideas.

Ghorman has 50k inhabitants.

Not to derail the thread, but redpill me on Drive. Is it really as good as everyone says it is?

Not really, it's fairly generic, but it sure looks cool as fuck

I think it's missing a large shot with all the bodies on the ground too, but we saw that they went beyond the plaza since they were attacking people in the streets. The mutt went to the Ghorman HQ and they attacked them here too.

I would simply not gather in the plaza that the Imperials mysteriously suddenly reopened. Probably wouldn't go armed either.

bad batch sucked if it wasn't about crosshair

All of it happened here.

All of it happened here

Wrong.

Not really, as Andor leaves we see the droids chasing the people out of the plaza, we don't know for how many hours they keep killing people through the streets.

Personally I want either an Imperial Commando show/mini series or a full fledged game made in the style of Ready or Not. Focus on how extremist rebel cells harm normal every day people. You get your briefs from ISB and the Navy and start off as a normal Imperial beat cop and work your way up to a death trooper.

Am I the only one who still thinks s1 is still better?
Why is everybody fellating the last three episodes? Sure there were some kino moments, but both the ghorman massacre and mon mothma speech felt pretty underwhelming, aside from a few kino moments

Its pretty amazing as a concept. I guess it depends if you're more into Avant Garde movies. It kicked off the whole Synthwave/Retrowave movement and has an amazing soundtrack. The movie is just oozing with soul. Sure the plot is paper thin but I'll be fucked if it isn't made with a ton of passion.

For sure. S1 was lightening in a bottle and you could watch S1 still and go into Rogue One and not much changes. Another Anon pointed out they had S2 budget slashed which would explain why it felt like whole plotlines got dropped.

This. Such a monumental waste of time. It is the antithesis of Andor. Where Andor is about putting everything for the cause, and stopping the Empire no matter what, Bad Batch was about... babysitting obnoxious little mary sue plot device girl and RETIRING, while the rest of the galaxy is being choked to death by the Empire. That's without mentioning how they blew up Emperor's PERSONAL TOP SECRET research facility that he visited personally, killed shit ton of personnel including the top researcher, freed prisoners, and then got away with it. How? They just returned to the planet where the Empire HAD ALREADY BEEN, they know they fucking lived there. And they grew old all the way into the rebellion era in peace and quiet. They were never hunted down and no retaliation followed. Forced, sugarcoated happy ending. While people like Ghormans are being massacred, or even their own clone brothers, like Rex are out there fighting and dying for the cause. And Bad Batch faggots just chill, do nothing, despite possessing incredibly valuable set of skills and experience. Holy fuck. That show is so tone deaf and retarded, just utterly moronic filler slop for women.

death star isn't complete until the movie and that's still a year after next week's episodes

Everyone thinks S1 was betetr.

But the plaza episode is agood as S1's highs, those being the heist and the prison escape.

Iirc Gilroy wanted to do each season as a full year's worth of events before getting to RO/ANW time frame. But yeah, Disney said no, so he condensed everything he had planned into this final season we're currently getting. It why you have shit like Mon realizing she has to be complicit in murdering her childhood friend, and then it's never touched on again because the next act just skipped ahead a full year, so we never see her struggling with the consequences of her actions

pretty much all the members of the batch are handicapped after the incident, Hunter got tortured to hell, Wrecker got his body broken, Crosshair lost his shooting hand, Tech is dead, Echo left with Rex
Officially they also no longer were considered on the planet anymore and probably were considered KIA

Im tired of people using "muh budget cuts" as an excuse for enshittification".
If you can't make a kino season for 200 FUCKING MILLION DOLLARS, that's on you.

he was mentioned in one of the senators speeches before Mon gave hers

You're right, there needed to be some footage I'd stormtroopers throwing grenades into houses after fleeing civilians and hangings of dead partisans in the town square.
There should have been a crane shot of the stack of bodies all piled up in the town square with buildings burning and tie fighters strafing random houses.
It should have been an atrocity to make Come and See look like Pirates of the Caribbean.

pretty much all the members of the batch are handicapped after the incident, Hunter got tortured to hell, Wrecker got his body broken, Crosshair lost his shooting hand,

All irrelevant. Shit can be healed. Cybernetics exist. Look at fucking Saw. And they could still be instructors for the Rebels. They are super elite commando veterans.

Officially they also no longer were considered on the planet anymore and probably were considered KIA

Retarded bullshit. They got into Tantiss, blew it up, freed prisoners and escaped. They are not KIA. We see how efficient the ISB is in Andor. An entire Star Destroyer of people occupied Pabu and an entire platoon of troopers was there. They were stupid enough to return to the same place twice. They would be hunted down in anything that is not utter slop for dumbasses. It is the same as Lothal in Rebels. Forced, sugar coated ending for dumb children and toddlers. No balls, no brain. Nothing is earned.

Such an awful show. Other than like two episodes with Cody and Crosshair, it completely sucked. Filler, filler, monster of the week, fetch quest, adventure with Wanda Sykes, babysitting, but HUNTAAAH.

He was unironically the worst thing about Acolyte

why does anyone bother firing lasers at it? its useless.

Remember when cassian was looking for his sister

E1: S2>1
E2: S1>2
E3: S1=2
E4: S1>2
E5: S2>1
E6: S1>2
E7: S1>2
E8: S2=1
E9: S2>1

=: 2
S1>: 4
S2>: 3
I think that's my current score.
Had E8 as S2>S1 at first, but while reading over the plot summary for s1e8 I remembered that's a Saw episode, so had to go neutral on it.
So Season 1 is slightly better.

hell no, the main girl was

his sister

He just kind of forgot about his sister

turns out his sister was the friends he made along the way

and/or Bix, to keep with the running themes of the franchise

They also used those guys as foot troops to exterminate the mandalorians after the Empire nuked the planet

The arc/build up to the final episode format was better in S1.
S2 isn't really built like that, it's more like a traditionnal show with a 1 year time gap every 3 episodes.
Ep 4/5/6/7/8 is a whole arc for example. The way they are writing the characters is way more classic too.

kino sequence

This is where you hire someone like Neil Blomkamp or Gareth Edwards. They have a good sense for scale and can do it on a small budget.

Marva told him to stop

You can't just post nonsense like that as if no one is gonna notice

Ghormans, we don't need their scum.

how the FUCK does Wil have a gf on every planet in the galaxy?

Chuddie answer: THE MESSAGE
real answer: he had two gfs, farmer gf to show his type and french rebel gf who is now his "real gf" who will die together with him within the next three episodes for emotional payoff

Remember what they took from you

Funny how he lied to the farm girl; "I will come back I promise", lmao

Remember when infiltrating imp facilities, even ones in backwater planets, used to be a big deal, requiring weeks of preperation
now cassian can just steal a prototype tie from one of empires most important manufacturers
or bomb an ISB torturer on coruscant like heckin walter white
need i go into the extraction of mothma from the capitol building of the fucking galaxy

Cassian only had a day's worth of prep on Aldhani too.

Neil Blomkamp

Nothing another fucking south African apartheid allegory

Classic "raising the stakes" creep where characters become increasingly OP as the story progresses

have you not seen rogue one, the creator, Godzilla 2014, district 9, Zygot, halo shorts ?

jej isn't there some interview with gilroy all but basically saying "say thank you, this is what i could salvage" re rogue one?
for me it's the extraction team double? triple cross?

Godzilla 2014

a Godzilla film where Godzilla is on screen for less than 15 minutes, total

Don't get me wrong, I love that film, but the constant cutaways from the giant monsters fighting in my giant monster movie just got annoying

Why is everybody fellating the last three episodes?

Because the other 6 were a zoozefest.

She died on the way back to her home planet. I honestly don't know why people are praising S2 so much. The only aspects I think are exceptional are the shooting locations for the Senate and Wedding scenes and the only storyline I found interesting was Syril becoming a plant and it sure seems like they cut most of his stuff out. Pretty underwhelming thus far.

now cassian can just steal a prototype tie from one of empires most important manufacturers

He was able to steal it thanks to the girl who was already in the place for years

bomb an ISB torturer on coruscant

It was a new facility they just acquired, basically just a building for now, not a proper ISB building

The Yuuzon Vhong was a dumb idea and I'm tired of pretending it wasn't.

The Bread Circus is exactly what youre looking for tho he does also get autistic about other stuff

Plus Mon even says afterwards that the numbers of the dead are unbelievable.

Why are aliens such bootlickers?

I found the entire thing with Bix' revenge completely incoherent
not only does it not make sense within the scope of revenge to give him the chair only to blow him up later, the entire premise of her wanting revenge seems to chafe with this shows reputation of the being a sober psychological analysis of ptsd
I wonder if gilroy knows these kind of eye for an eye retributions dont cure torture survivors
And with bix leaving i doubt theyll have a chance to resolve that

family put under house arrest and held hostage

mon mothma's public """kidnapping""" is revealed on imperial news

imperial narrative is that she's been blackmailed for the past few years and being forced to speak for the rebels

family ordered to publicly beg for her "safe return"

eventually this fails and they're accused of being rebel collaborators

sentenced by imperial court in public show trial

Wait, I couldn't hear you the music is too loud...you said how many Bothans? LOL! That's crazy, OH THIS IS MY SONG!

Agreed. They really don't fit Star Wars.

Don't worry, Lucasfilm is in the process of creating their even worse replacement

most of the EU was shit, rightfully ignored by lucas

inb4 "you're a mouse shill"

Cope, even if I was it wouldn't make it any less right

jej isn't there some interview with gilroy all but basically saying "say thank you, this is what i could salvage" re rogue one?

The average person has no idea what a director does. Edwards is a ridley scott workman like director which is perfect for a series like this. Its the writer job to create a compelling story. Also he worked on the project from start to finish. He did that vader scene with gilroy.

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You are missing something here: Luthen. Bix never asked for revenge in the first place, she was down as fuck and Luthen found the opportunity to kill Gorst, he gave the mission to Bix and Cassian because he thought it would fix her and his relationship with Cassian. It's that simple, of course Bix and Cassian would not refuse to kill this faggot.

I don't get why it took them this long to make villain's competent. Palpatine at least did some scheming and backstabbing in the prequels. Maul killed Qui Gon.

will you stop partying we have a lot of people to kill.

Who needs Bix, when you have a cyber bro

DON'T DATE ROBOTS

Again people have no idea what a film director does. The director doesn't write the script and usually don't have final edit on a studio film. Blame the editor for wanting boring human's in kaiju fight

This just shoves the buck of emotional underdevelopment to someone whos supposed to be older wiser and more detached
but yea in the sense that luthen doesnt care for collateral to his operatives it works

As a TIE Bomber fan, this is basically the best fanservice the thicc girl ever got. I loved it.

The gorman rebels shouldve led a giant horde of spiders into kill the imps
Wouldve been so sick

FUCK YOU SPACE POPE WE HAVE AN AMERICAN IN THE VATICAN NOW AND IMMA GO FUCK MY TOASTER JUST TO SPITE YOUR REPTILIAN ASS

He's basically like a Terminator.

captured and reprogrammed robot

extremely durable

technically another droid wearing the skin of an imperial droid; like terminators wearing human skin

It would have been a Disney Afternoon tv movie, you pleb

I'd give my left nut for a Kyle Katarn movie/show/literally anything

Just play Jedi Outcast.

The spider thing never went anywhere surprisingly...

imagine Andor riding a giant spider around and eating the storm troopers and droids

Then imagine a giant wolf coming out of nowhere and it just starts chomping on storm troopers. And this wolf talks and is wearing a Sidney Crosby jersey haha

The spiders are far too small to do any damage.
I bet the imps took some to set up their own farms.

Also if the empire can blow up a planet with any old mining equipment why do they need a death star

why didn't they just shoot darth vader with a gun

You can hard, or you can work smart. Simple as

you could level an entire city with some dudes and a couple bulldozers, why do you need nukes?

t. Filoni

That would take years to do
The time table for gorman was 48 hours

Dumb speedwatcher.

It's a giant battle station with a hyperdrive and a giant laser. Instant destruction vs years of subjugation and resources.

I don't dream of Kyle becoming Canon but they totally could canonize Desann and make him the new overarching villain

You know, that brings up a good point: how would an actual ballistic weapon hold up in this setting? Everything's designed with energy based weapons in mind, so would anyone really have a counter for tiny bits of metal flung at your head past the speed of sound? Don't even think a lightsaber would be that effective against bullets, if anything you would just be making more projectiles that are now superheated

So The Empire just signed itself up for decades of resistance fighting and car bombs on Ghorman...

The whole point of fermenting the Ghorman Front was to make the destruction of Ghorman palatable to the mind of the average Imperial citizen.

NI A MOS

the planet won't be inhabitable when they're done, no one lives on Ghorman past this point in history

if Palpatine was building a whole fleet of planet killing Star Destroyers in secret from second one why did he bother with two Death Stars?

Mining is probably weaker and thus takes far more time; they're trying to extract resources from the planet. The Death Star just blows things up immediately.
The Death Star must output a ton of energy immediately (i.e. a giant capacitor) and their mining equipment will have a lower output across a longer period of time.
You also have to remember that the Death Star is a battle station and must supply and protect an entire fleet of ships, so the energy requirements are also much higher.

Do you retards just browse TIk Tok while speedwatching?

They are relocating everyone. Empty planet, with just the empire miners.
And guess what happens with those who refuse to leave.

decades of resistance fighting and car bombs on Ghorman

Literally according to keikaku. Each act of resistance gives them an excuse to maintain an armed pressence and crack down even harder on the ghorm (which fuels further resistance), all the while the drilling teams keep digging away

Fuck Filoni for giving me brain rot and making me assume the spiders were going to show up and kill a bunch of stormtroopers and save the day or some shit like that

Nta, but

establish its possible to strip mine and entire planet for it's resources

but naw, they pissed us off so we'll just turn a literal planet's worth of resources into space dust, just because

The Empire earned it's fate

It's a monkey paw wish.

Wedge got expanded upon in the new canon and they made him a cuck and comedy relief.

Thrawn is ok, but still not as good as HTTE Thrawn

Jorus got replaced with Titus Pullo, but Pullo then died in real life

Revan is canon, but we know next to nothing about him and the republic timescale has been completely retconed so the old republic is completely different

Snoke/the bad batch is literally just a repackaging of Sheev's cloning shenanigans

Rise of the Skywalker is just a shittier variation of Dark Empire

They would ruin Kyle. Don't be sad that it's over, be happy it happened.

Mon bringing up Sneev made me laugh, all the prequels and TRoS nonsense really turned him into a joke character.

Well yes, the Death Star is an insane and stupid idea the Geonosians canonically came up with because they were horrible bug niggas. Sheev only wants it because as a Sith he must be over the top evil by writer fiat.

I hope there's more screaming next week.

Yeah the Empire was definitely retarded in their use of the DS, they should use just enough power to pop the planetary shields, and then another shot to wipe the surface if that doesn't help.
In any case, there were probably hordes of mining ships sneaking off to the Alderaanian debris field for whatever scraps of ore that remain in its original system.

The death star was most likely intended to be used as a deterrent. After using it a couple of times to show everyone that they had it and that it worked, and that they were willing to use it, the empire could just kick back and let the looming threat of it keep everyone in check.

____Scream__

last episode is just a mashup of every single intro like they did for season 1 but it's just sounds like loud noise

Why did bix
Legit did no understand ts

Fuck Filoni for giving me brain rot and making me assume the spiders were going to show up and kill a bunch of stormtroopers and save the day or some shit like that

i remember years ago advocating on reddit for a serious and adult star wars thing, and everyone was like durrr you just want sex and cursing in star wars NO we don't want that

Stand at attention yall crakas

What was he going to say?

REALLY?

Now that cyril die whos left to root for

If she didn't leave, he would try and quit the rebellion. She knew he was vital to the rebellion and force shenanigans backed that opinion up. It's not that hard to understand.

Our guy Saw of course.

When I say Vader's Mom's slavery you say sorry

no one, the last four episodes are just bridging the gap between andor and rogue one

Isn't his branch of the rebellion a dead end?

K-2SO

But why would he try to quit
Or why would we believe he would quit
Hes been saying shit like "alright but this is muh last job luthen" since aldhani

I'm rooting for Mon even though I know she lives a long healthy life.

/ournigga/
LIES! DECEPTION!

one last job, cassian

we need you to steal the plans for the death star

ok luthen but this is the last one, and i'll go raise my kid with bix after

that was my favorite scene because of the dual meaning where she is telling the audience what they should do

CYRIL WAS SUPPOSED TO LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER THE END

i shall run no longer

ack

why did he do this out of nowhere?

Seeing the vibe shift in SW: Rebels S3E19 is so jarring after Andor. Mon Mothma going from the realistic grounded world of Andor to cruising around a nebula wiping a imperial force that is supposed to be 100x more dangerous than anything seen in Andor as a disposable shooting gallery all happy and smiles along the way is unreal

He's very active in Rebels and lives until the Rogue One. We still don't know how his legs got blown off either.

Why are so many questions about what happened in the show so stupid?
it's like watching a show with my mom

who's he

why did he

what is

my mom doesn't pay attention, but what's wrong with you guys?

He knew he could tank a single reaction shot from the death star
The reason he died is because that sneaky jew krenik learned he was on the planet and added a second reactor at the last minute

What the hell did you think a cartoon would be like?

"FERIX"
"Stoners get high"

Andor is the ultimate phone watcher show.

Mon Mothma is so fucking beautiful it’s unreal
I need her

and bor gullets origin story, i want to know how the boy becomes bor gullet

Cuz this season is dumb and inconsistent at points

No it's you

inconsistent at points

Did you read that big new york mag article that came put a couple days ago? The zoomers in college right now are extremely retarded and use ai for everything. They can't read, write, or think and have no inner voice. Even at an ivy league level.

And yet youll never be white

Need a good image of syril and cassian's fistfight

I really liked this dialogueless scene, just them carving up the canyons and andor acting cool.

Episode 5: The Thread Strikes Back

Never heard of the roman empire?