Did you like it?
Did you like it?
Pure kino.
Not really. I've had enough weepy documentaries about how heroic it was for conscripts to suffer horribly and murder each other at the behest of the rich.
what did they die for again?
Le national pride or some shit. In truth, all the leaders were cousins and killing millions of people was just a game for them.
Yeah it really was a stupid fucking war. At least with WWII there was outright aggression with the Axis powers but this was just a bunch of related-by-marriage royalty playing Risk
4d chess to propose the balfour agreement
Its so so. I've seen better WW1 documentaries. Its decent as a starter doc on the war but far from definite.
It kept the incels from rising up by sticking them in trenches.
Agreed. I also hate all that "oh the humanity" garbage. I'm also irked by the romanticizing of the christmas truce stuff ("isn't it quaint and charming how they just wanted to be friends after killing each other by the millions and continued to do so afterwards??"). Give me break. Also the fact the main lession of this war supposedly was that patriotism is a lie (dulce et decorum est) and that war is senseless slaughter, yet we've had countless wars since and some by the same actors and now we HAVE to have another one with Russia.
the part where the guy came home after getting wounded or something and some girl put a white flower on him and he lost his shit at her
Fuck I love these things
fought for jews and commies
firebombed hundreds of thousands of german kids to death
many of them got to live to see what they'd done to their homeland
Evil, stupid cucks. And I'm tired of pretending otherwise.
wrong war, retard
Just some young lads out on an adventure
olephants mr frodo
A series of defence treaties that dominoed the whole of Europe into war because of a lone nutjob
I liked the comment that the guys from western germany were pretty decent but the guys from prussia were ruthless, evil cunts.
That's interesting because at that point Germany wasn't integrated much at all. A United Germany was what, less than 30 years old by then? The only thing that united the Germans was how successful the country was.
Good point anon, war is so pointless.
no it wasnt. it was about the question if continental europe would turn german
Another reason would have surfaced. An arms race had been going on for years prior to the war.
encyclopedia.1914-1918-online.net
Germany just felt like it was in a position to take a little bit more colonial land. Morocco, to be precise. So another short war with France was in order, and if that meant ruining the relationship they had with Russia so be it. That's why millions had to die.
how am i supposed to know that from looking at the pic? Anyway, fuck brits. A bunch of soulless bastards.
Try googling the movie first retard
The poem the titles based on.
The SD Uniform.
To prevent Germany from overthrowing the Anglo-French hegemony- I mean, the balance of power in Europe.
I preferred this series
French hegemony
after the Franco Prussian War
Germany already defeated that hegemony years before 1914. Germany had become the biggest industrial power in Europe, even exceeding that of Britain.
Yes Ivan we know you're raiding.
I'm not a communist, but it's very very easy to understand how the whole movement came into being when one day a bunch of rich elites arbitrarily decided that millions of working class men needed to die in the worst war in human history for virtually no reason.
WW1 set up every modern conflict
The Cold War was set up by WW2 which was set up by WW1 which was set up by the Franco Prussian War which was set up by the Austro Prussian War which was set up by the Congress of Vienna which was set up by the Napoleonic Wars which was set up by the French Revolutionary Wars which was set up by the American Revolutionary War which was set up by the Seven Years War and so on and so forth
Well in the case of Britain, Italy, and France, there either weren’t royals or they were cucked by a liberal democratic system. Weirdly enough liberal democracies tend towards total warfare and not stopping wars until the total defeat of their enemies
wrong as usual poltard. No Ivan this doesn't make me want fascism either.
The funniest part about WW1 is that it would make modern MBT useless because the trenches were so wide, a MBT would fall into the trench even if it was going full speed in an attempt to leap over it.
Actually, the weirdest thing about this movie is the number of voices in it who said, "The war? Yeah, it was a pretty good time, actually. I wasn't keen to leave."
Shut up, midwit.
Napoleon set up WW1
If only the Unga Bunga tribe hadn't raided the Bongo Bongo tribes cave during the last Ice Age we wouldn't be in this mess currently
I think you replied to the wrong post. But yeah the allied powers except for Russia and Austria Hungary on the central powers side were all liberal democracies
It makes no difference what men think of war, said the judge. War endures. As well ask men what they think of stone. War was always here. Before man was, war waited for him. The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner. That is the way it was and will be. That way and not some other way.
No Ivan I didn't tag the wrong post. Yes Ivan I know you're trying to influence people to hate democracy.
More like the obsession to keep Europe how it is after Nappy was defeated.
Alright then you’re retarded I guess. But yes democracies are far worse than monarchies are when it comes to ending a war quickly, or in less destructive manner that total victory or defeat
Yes Ivan we know this is a poltard influence thread.
No Ivan we aren't racist. Yes Ivan we believe in equal rights.
Yeah that's been something that has bit the Merkava a lot in the ass is how it's utterly unable to navigate trench systems. Abrams is better at it but struggles in soft terrain from its weight, and it's a similar story with the Leopard 2.
Damn why’s the rest of the world so dogshit
Riiiiight. So why didn't this war happen in 1870 with the unifications of Germany and Italy? And why wasn't Germany dismembered after the war?
I watched this after playing Amnesia the Bunker
Its Great
Not only that, nobody wanted to destroy their political careers by even talking about a peace treaty or truce so every politician just kept going for war and putting more money and manpower to the front until total victory or collapse. More and more public funds and conscripts chewed up until even if someone did want to discuss peace, they wouldn’t get anywhere because none of the populace would support it due to how much they had already lost
groups of roasties going around convincing 15 year old boys to join up
Nta but most of Europe was built around a balance of power but the British were the dominant global power so really things were more so built around what kept the continent from threatening them. Like for example their entry into the Crimean war was to prevent the Russians from moving into the med. The German unification legitimately just happened to fast for anyone to really react in time, the French collapsed way faster than anyone had considered, and the Germans didn’t really threaten British interests until Wilhelm II started building a powerful navy
france wanted germany to be torn apart because they were still asshurt over the franco prussian war and took the brunt of the losses on the western front
the states joined in to get a seat at the winners table, and they argued against it
was this the wrong call? hard to say, the treaty of versailles was know to be bullshit by pretty much everyone on both sides even at the time
hindsight is 20/20, but i do wonder if things would've turned out nearly as bad if the central powers won, somehow i doubt it, but it's impossible to say
Suffragettes were oddly right wing. They were obsessed with patriotism and they would give young men white feathers for not enlisting as a symbol of cowardice.
Quenching their Angloid thirst for Aryan blood.
Oh meant to state most of Europe post congress of vienna
I know this, anon. But 44 years later, everything had settled down. Even the French had largely moved on from Alsace and Lorraine (no matter what entry level history books say). Sure there were tensions, but that's the sad thing about WW1 - it really didn't need to happen the way it did. They really did sleepwalk into disaster.
the treaty of versailles was know to be bullshit
This is post-ww2 revisionism to make Germany's nth chimp-out look reasonable. Versailles was no more harsh than what the Germans had slapped onto the French a few decades earlier - and given the fact that, let's be honest, Germany DID start the War, they were lucky not to be given the same treatment Hungary got.
Yeah exactly, it’s horrific dude. And even when individual powers wanted to end it (emperor Karl comes to Mind) it was shot down by ridiculous demands from the other side or your own side basically forcing you at gunpoint to continue. In the democratic countries it was political suicide to even consider a princely truce type white peace or settlement. Just endlessly grinding forwards until the inevitable victory or collapse
treaty of versailles
and here we go
There are two kinds of bears, those who dance, and those who don't.
If you want to talk about influence Thailand was under the French sphere of influence, obviously Liberia was under American, and Korea under China/Japan for most of its existence. And even Japan for 2 decades before the Meiji restoration could not do as they wished with British and American interests predominating. Which is all to say then and now all country’s in the world can dance to their own tune
Ehhh I mean I think the treaty just had the unfortunate circumstance of being in effect as the Great Depression happened, coupled with a new German government and an incompetent one at that, it probably made things seem far more severe than they were to the average German. Also I disagree, I firmly believe Russia or Austria are more responsible for it happening
*Than then were on paper
The mistakes are heartbreaking. I'm reading about the Dardanelles campaign right now, and the Brits have a practically open road to Constantinople (and who knows how that changes things if the Ottomans are out of the war, you can continue supplying the Russians by sea, and the Balklan states decide to gang rape AH) and the way certain individuals fuck up the planning, dither or lose their nerves until the opportunity is gone is so frustrating and unbelievable.
russia was the first major power to mobilize for war, if any major power is to blame it would be them
germany gave austro hungary the blank check, but it was either that or potentially lose them as an ally, which would leave them alone surrounded by hostile powers
Austria definitely pulled the trigger, but at the same time it was Germany who loaded the weapon, handed them the gun and egged them on into pulling the trigger.
Some carriage driver took a wrong turn
It's all very simle. Honor your promises or suffer the consequences. All euros wanted to play sneaky snake and backstab whenever seemed beneficial to them, but when big brother America, who stands by their word and honors their promises, comes in and makes sure the lil bros make good on their promises, everyone flounders. It is sad but true that the old world is entirely corrupt and has been since the dawn of time. Hate them all you want but America keeps the world honest.
time to play BF1 AGAIN
yes it was good i liked the part where they were eating and having sex with french whores
yah, cause war is weepy and heroic. shitty and great. A lot of things.
war is never senseless, war doesnt happen for no reason, otherwise it wouldnt happen at all. Politics by other means, duel on a large scale, etc.
Its a pretty common sentiment throughout history. of course there are trauma "I never want to even see a bullet again" stuff too. But if you dont try to over ideologies shit, you can see the various colors that pop up again and again, its anything but a unilateral experience. like looking at someones personal autobiography like Donald Mcbane or Sidny Smith.
that's the last thing a russian shill would post lmao
No it isn't.
I can't find it anywhere
Cope.
America stopped you euroshits from betraying each other, and you cant give credit where credit is due.
PAC AMERICANA.
Get used to it, youre living in it.
I am literally seething and coping through my teath rn. Please stop amerimogging me.
Anyone who describes war as heroic or great hasnt been in it.
That's a disgusting take. You dont have the experience to speak on it. Go back to your goon cave and hang yourself you want-to-be-intellectual.
Saw it at the kinoplex when it first came out with the "making of" special at the end. Impressed by the level of detail and thought put into the film. It was a labor of love and you can tell. 10/10 film, imo
Anyone who describes war as heroic or great hasn't been in it.
except for the irl people I literally mentioned.
If you read first hand accounts instead of combed ideological sob stories from people who have never been to war its self evident.
Im sorry, I will write you a recommendation letter to be accepted into the ethnostate.
but you're talking about WW2 thoughever
You think that is relevant? Wtf is wrong with you?Sword fight me then, I will gut you, pig belly. I have seen more war then you can comprehend, and I assure you, none of it is heroic or great. It's all bad. Even at it's best, it's all a fucking shit show. You think a great man sacrificing his life to save the other dingleberries in his squad from getting killed is heroic? No. Just more dingleberries surviving while a good man dies. There is no heroism in war. It's all just a god damned shit show, and FUCK YOU for trying to say anything otherwise,
Yeah it was good. All the whiners ITT are faggots, since the audio comes from actual WW1 Vets talking about their experiences, and all the background audio was recreated to try and fit the scenes being shown.
There's no glorification of the war, it's just an attempt at documenting the experience soldiers had.
Nope, you are wrong, I probably got a larger sample size than you. History major AND transcriber. I read through a lot of 1st hand accounts from bronze age to now. And heroism abounds.
OFC its not all dazies and rosing if you think that's what I mean.
Pic was relivent because its the story of the authors life.
not at all
They died for the future of Israel.
Im glad you're going to college, but I TEACH college. Im a history professor, and a war veteran. You disgust me. I think in another ten years you will think back on this opinion of yours and feel woe. A deep, resounding, unrelenting woe.
Why? I am just being honest and frank about what I read. And what I read of soldier's experiences is that it is ANYTHING but a unilateral thing. Its not just heroic, its not just miserable, its not just boring, its not just exciting, but a complex that tends not to be reducible to a single "point" if they are being honest and not making some post facto claim for whatever reason.
no that's true, WW1 was such a useless war that they it took another world war to make the final decision
Extremely simplistic worldview. The people demanded war. If Kaiser Wilhelm II and George V never existed, the German and British people would have invented someone similar enough to lead them into battle. Look at wars more like meteorological phenomena or something that can be simulated on a computer without thinking 5 people actually control the whole thing.
Carrying a case of water to a town with no well, then getting shot by the people youre trying help is so heroic bro.
How do you define heroism? Jumping on a grenade to save your troop from being annhiliated? Because thats all hollywood bullshit.
Sitting on the MG of a humvee for 16 hours a day only to get capped out of nowhere 2 days before you shore leave, then the air force goes ahead and levels the whole town in revenge, 900 civilians burned alive to get that one sniper? Is that heroism? Enlighten me bro, you've read so many books?
A charge that wins the day, saving a wounded comrade, etc.
Like I said, its pretty evident that It isnt any one experience. Yah a lot of it is shitty too like the stuff you mentioned. And boring too, and confusing.
A modern MBT would sit on a hill 3km away firing squash heads into them.
Scrub your friend's brains off the IFV then get back to me.
HAWK TUAH on your grave.