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What the fuck is "dugga doo" and what the fuck does it have to do with Doctor Who?

If i dugg you doo will you die

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The latest meme courtesy of the interstellar song contest episode

Companion: "I don't understand, Doctor, you say Daleks are these evil beings, what's so bad about them?"

Doctor: "You really want to know? Right. Invisibility shield on. We're going to go sit in on one of their parliament sessions.

Dalek MP #1: "WITH RESPECT, THE IN-DUS-TRY IS THRIVING UNDER PRE-SENT PO-LI-CY"

Dalek MP #2: "PRO-FIT CAN NOT BE OUR SOLE MO-TI-VA-TION, WE MUST RE-MEM-BER OUR VALUES"

Companion: "I don't understand, it seems like a normal debate?"

Doctor: "They're debating whether to keep slavery..."

Companion: "Oh God, that's horrible."

Doctor: "...or exterminate their slaves."

The current show is so devoid of good ideas they've had to latch onto a puppet who appears in the background for 15 seconds repeating a 3 syllable song.

Reminder that in the next episode, Omega becomes a giant Mr.Potato head crab demon, the universe forgets the Doctor, and Ncuti regenerates (with no explanation as to why) with no successor, implying the show is - indeed - fucking cancelled.

It's been a fun 20 years being a fan of this show. But times change, and so must I.

"Whenever I feel sad about the world, all I have to do is remember Davros just had his eyes shut all them years and I piss myself laughing." - Gareth Roberts

Just more trying to approach how you do something with the Daleks that is a civil war beyond just something like 'fuck Davros' versus 'daddy Davros', or 'you are slightly genetically different you must be destroyed'. You look at the Daleks in what they have largely been simplified into and their main characteristic is their desire to commit genocide. To me the obvious thing is to address/amend is that, but not without making the Daleks somehow moral. When I think of the Daleks there is a certain ego to them, which is both bombastic and showing their own sense of insecurity. So from that you take the Daleks, who are already insane if you go with the stance they are utterly convinced they are superior and they should kill all other life that is inferior, and narrow down on the ego aspect. Making them slavers is just taking their already seeming narcistic sadism, but just in a different direction.

Whenever I feel sad about the world, all I have to do is remember Sutekh just sat on top of the TARDIS all them years and I piss myself laughing.

Sounds like kino is about to be served

is panned to be the final episode of Doctor Who

EVERYONE tunes in, ratings spike to over 10m, ratings unseen for over a decade probably.

BBC pulls the show back because they think they're back in business

continued shambolic mess of a show for the next few years until they realise their folly.

Clara is cupping Sutekh's balls in this screenshot

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I wish I'd saved the best Sutekh memes. Can't be arsed to dig into the archives

The episode that’s from was a blatant rip-off of a Big Finish audio from over 20 years ago. Naturally, they weren’t credited.

He is literally me

Why didn't sutekh eat the Crucibles power source to repair himself

good to know someone else remembered ''bang-a-boom-boom'', it's been years since I listened to it but I remember it was a fun story with Mel & 7.

This is basically what happened in Jodie's first episode

4 syllables actually

I'm so annoyed that Capaldi wasn't the last regeneration. Could've just metacrisis doesn't count and it would've worked. His era had the energy of being the last incarnation anyway. Instead we're going to end on zesty black man and timeless child.

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retarded normies and faggots always going OMG BRING BACK TENNANT AS THE DOCTOR & THE SHOW WILL BE SAVED

they bring him back

he looks like this

it's one endless humiliation ritual where he's called out for being a cis male and he's also gay

Timeless Child and Bi-generation are good concepts with ass execution.

Time of Your Life cover looks amazing.

Russel go to bed

I'm so annoyed that Capaldi wasn't the last regeneration

Can't be the last one when War exists and 10 wasted one. Had War not existed, Capaldi would've been the last one.

Would’ve been much easier to dismiss everything after him

It's pretty cool. I've got it on my shelf but haven't read it yet.
Also have the full Gareth Roberts S17 trilogy

It would've been easier simply to say that 10's metacrisis regeneration didn't count since he didn't go all the way. I mean that was the default assumption until Time of the Doctor anyway.

I wish he was the last as well but it does make sense to count the metacrisis regeneration because it would bring up the question ''why don't other timelords just shoot out the energy to heal without using up a regeneration?''.
I hate saying that because RTD used up a regen just as a cliffhanger stunt and give rose a fucktoy.

I think the bast way to think of it is that 1-11 is his full cycle and 12 is a 'coda' or 'epilogue' for his lifetime.

Just pretend meta crisis didn't count, or pretend he was killed by the cybermen before he could regenerate, and take the ending of The Doctor Falls where he dies and is laid to rest in the TARDIS by Bill and Puddle Woman as the ending of the show. His body in the TARDIS forever, which dies too, floating aimlessly around the universe forever.

Don't count Twice Upon a Time because it made a mockery of the 1st Doctor. Everything after The Doctor Falls is non-canon/didn't happen. I believe Moffat ended it this way because he knew what was coming.

''why don't other timelords just shoot out the energy to heal without using up a regeneration?''

Hasn't this happened since? the 12th doctor magically used regeneration to restore Davros, and then he fake regenerated in that monk 3-parter after Bill shot him

ElevenReader exists if you wanna have the actual guys narrate these. Like Sophie Aldred narrating Time's Crucible

I hate saying that because RTD used up a regen just as a cliffhanger stunt and give rose a fucktoy.

Tbf I think it was Moffat that made it count as a regeneration in Time of the Doctor

I think the bast way to think of it is that 1-11 is his full cycle and 12 is a 'coda' or 'epilogue' for his lifetime.

That's pretty good desu

Honestly the regeneration cliffhanger in Stolen Earth is a real hackjob in retrospect. Literally done for the hype. (And it worked, I remember it being all over the news, Who has never got more attention).

I'm pretty sure the Doctor Falls was the intended ending for the era anyway. TUAT only happened because Chibbers didn't want to open with a Christmas episode. What a fag.

David Tennant has been 4 Doctors (10, 10.2, Metacrisis in parallel world, and 14).

Every NewWho Doctor has either regenerated from or into David Tennant (even 12, who got his face because he remembered 10 saved the Roman guy from Pompeii)

It's still an entire regeneration wasted. 10's body was dying, the process started and he finished it by diverting the rest of the energy to the hand. The regeneration was complete whether or not his face was changed.

Don't count Twice Upon a Time because it made a mockery of the 1st Doctor.

Why did Moffat start doing stuff like this from S10 onward?

I don't like that either, honestly regeneration has been become gimmicky in nu-who and all 3 showrunners have done it.
maybe, I don't think RTD thought of the consequences, as usual
thanks, 12 is a good point to drop the show.

He did, but RTD created a problem because otherwise it would be seen as a copout. Otherwise every Time Lord would just cut off their hand after regeneration every time, grow it back, and use it to escape needing to change every time.

Sure you can say the Doctor was uniquely vain in caring about his 'self', but extrapolate this ability backwards and why would any Time Lord want to change in the first place if they knew they didn't have to?

The Davros thing seemed a bit to me like the thing in Let's Kill Hitler, just a spark that doesn't use up a whole life. But it's pushing the limit for sue.

Only Gareth Roberts one I have is SHADA and it's kino to me.
Huh, might try this out thanks anon.

If all Daleks think they're superior, how does their command structure function?

You can also use ElevenLabs if you wanna make full cast audiobooks with SFX and everything.

That's the explanation given in Time of the Doctor, yes. But that was 5 years later. At the time most people just assumed it didn't count since his face didn't change, and the show did nothing to contradict this assumption until Time of the Doctor.

Point is, Moffat could've decided otherwise. But I suspect he wanted control over how the Doctor overcame the regeneration limit, and I can't say I blame him.

None of it makes sense, why didn't he use the "spark" to heal literally everyone he's come in contact with who has become injured? Surely he could've done it when the Master got shot in Last of the Timelords.

But I suspect he wanted control over how the Doctor overcame the regeneration limit, and I can't say I blame him.

It's odd how 5 was 13 by some writers and yet they never indicated a limit break then.

It's interesting that even after Genesis, the Daleks are not just Nazi analogues. Their whole civil war arc seems to suggest they are split into slavish servants of Davros, the mad scientists plaything and probably more similar to the Dlakes as portrayed in nuWho, and then the Supreme Daleks (grey ones) are more like their pre-Genesis selves, just ruthless conquerors who aren't necessarily genocidal but will enslave you.

Suppose you can put the difference down (in-universe) to the Time War. But I'd like to see more agency from them again. And stop bringing back Davros.

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speaking of Davros, RTD said any future appearances of him would be the new redesign they did for Children in Need...how would they explain how he's no longer crippled and disfigured?

I don't really want to defend it because I still think it's stupid. But in theory it does still take years off his life, it just doesn't affect his regeneration cycle.

Robert Holmes hinted at it:
.>feels different this time...

But Holmes was a good writer writing at a time when not all Who fans were autistic about lore. Not everything had to be explained and it was better that it wasn't since it allowed for more flexibility in the writing.

They think their race is superior. Not that they as an individual Dalek are the most superior single being in the cosmos.

He can't bring him back anyway because

the Nation estate hated the redesign so they said RTD can't use the Daleks or Davros anymore

Disney hates this because they wanted the Daleks in the show so they could monetise them for the brand

the show is getting fucking cancelled now

whole origin of the daleks as little blue fuckwits aside, i do find something charming about the 60s dalek solo stuff.

But in theory it does still take years off his life, it just doesn't affect his regeneration cycle.

Each body can last 1000 years until a natural regeneration.

Because, in his ultimate evil experiment, he has removed the need for a wheelchair because he's an evil ableist who hates cripples.

lol remember the dalek parliament and the dalek prime minister from asylum of the daleks. what other policies would daleks have apart from "exterminate"? makes no sense. are there different parties? is the dalek opposition slightly more liberal?

.how would they explain how he's no longer crippled and disfigured?

With all of the things Daleks have done, all it really takes is some rogue faction of Daleks who revere Davros instead of viewing him as a pet wanting to fix him. Though you can also say the regeneration energy 12 used was gathered in order to heal him or something.

How long did each Doctor last?

He can't bring him back anyway because <HEADCANON>

How do we know that?

Thanks to The Timeless Child, this isn't true. The regenerations are no longer natural since the Time Lords put limits on how many times they could do it and their lifespan after harnessing the energy of the Timeless Child, who originally can apparently regenerate forever.

HOW OFTEN SHOULD WE HAVE TRASH PICKUPS
EXTERMINATE THE TRASH
WHAT SHALL WE DO ABOUT THE TRAFFIC ON MAIN STREET
EXTERMINATE THE TRAFFIC
etc.

Wouldn't that mean davros is half time lord? His whole scheme in that episode was to steal regeneration energy so he could make hybrid daleks that could regenerate.

Doccy Who

Davros is... the hybrid?

Yeah, on his mother's side

'Amazingly, we might be shooting those scripts early next year' - RTD talking about Season 3 in 2024.

If the show does end this Saturday, I wonder if we’ll ever find out just how much of a shitshow RTD2 was behind the scenes. Can’t see him writing a self-congratulatory book about this one.

That's something you can't really gauge aside from with 10 and 13 who surely would have only lasted a few years each. 13 probably had the shortest life, because she was always stuck with Yaz.

The Dalek stance on Davros is probably the biggest ideological disagreement they have. There is basically 3 camps. 1) Davros is not a Dalek, we will not obey him, exterminate him. 2) Davros is not a Dalek, we will not obey him, yet he is too valuable so we shall keep him alive. 3) Loyalty to Davros, whether that is as a leader or just their creator they feel (as much as Daleks can) some sort of obligation to him. Davros is both the best and worst thing to happen to the Daleks from a creative perspective. The best in that gives the Daleks, who probably are limited themselves in terms of easy possibilities, stories they would otherwise not be able to do. The worst in that so many Daleks stories since Davros's introduction are not really Dalek stories, they are Davros stories.

Wasn't 13 in prison for decades?

Do the Daleks use a FPTP voting system or is their Parliament all about direct representation? What's their tax policy?

What's your source on this? Interesting if true but we did have a Dalek in the Children in Need special

Oh yeah, true. But then there's also questions about whether 10 truly was only 4 or 5 years older as well, so it's hard to say his true age.

He was the last Doctor Who. Everyone after him is a different character, called the Timeless Child

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there's a morbius doctor

DIE DOCTOR DIE

I don't like to think about it because it makes no sense

1: probably something tame like 250 years old when he starts

2: maybe 300 by the time he regenerates, I get the sense he didn't last long (he was executed after all)

3: weird one, implies he has lived for thousands of years but never actually says it. Otherwise I think 400 by the time he dies.

4: explicitly states his age as 450, probably lasts a long time since he goes through a lot of companions. Could be as old as 600 or 700 years old when he dies.

5: I honestly don't know, I just don't think he lasted long. 650-750.

6: Likewise, 700-800.

7: I think he does actually say his age. In the TV movie he's 900 I think but this is where we get into continuity issues with the Time War. 750 is what I reckon.

8: Says he's 900 but who knows.

9: 900. Says it outright, and not as a joke. This implies the War Doctor never existed or maybe the Time War fucked with things.

10: pretty explicitly lives from 903 to 907.

11: starts out at 907, ages up to 1100 in series 6, then up to 2000 in Time of the Doctor. So basically longer than all the other Doctors combined.

12: Very vague, thankfully. If you don't take the confessional dial into account, he probably lasts a hundred years or so, max. If you do, he's alive for 4.5 billion years which is kind of fucked.

The Doctor lies about his age

The Dalek Parliament was formed so they could dispute the taxation of trade routes to outlying star systems.

: pretty explicitly lives from 903 to 907.
Still find it really funny that for some reason it's hard canon 10 lived just a fraction of the lifetimes of every other Doctor
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That's a copout and you know it.

Saying he was 900 in New Who was a copout.

9 is the one Doctor that we see basically from birth to death with no breaks.

regenerated so recently that he's still checking out his new face in the first episode (Day of the Doctor confirms War regen'd into him just before the events of S1, too)

episode 1 ends with Rose entering the TARDIS and it disappearing

every subsequent episode begins and ends with the TARDIS appearing and disappearing in immediate succession

He lived only for the time we saw him on-screen.

It does kind of put his rage at regenerating into perspective, but I prefer to put that down to simple vanity.

It wasn't necessary too, there was a chance between series to have him go off and live years somewhere. But no. He literally ages in real time.

Easy, here are some options:

A) Just show the very early days of the the Daleks before Davros got disfigured and crippled.

B) Have "young" Davros time travel.

C) Davros does some experiment or something and has him regenerate like a Timelord.

But Clive's photos imply that he's travelled extensively before the events of S1. 'Rose' kind of contradicts on this point but I don't mind, leaving it open ended is the wisest choice.

Fucking wastes of regenerations.

: I think he does actually say his age. In the TV movie he's 900 I think but this is where we get into continuity issues with the Time War. 750 is what I reckon.
: Says he's 900 but who knows.
: 900. Says it outright, and not as a joke. This implies the War Doctor never existed or maybe the Time War fucked with things.
I think the Time War is basically confirmed to have fucked with the Doctor's age because it's hard to keep track when time is constantly shifting, and on any day of the war you could age up into an old man, or age down into a baby.

Big Finish...

Also they do leave space between some episodes. Like Boom Town does not lead directly into Bad Wolf. World War Three doesn't necessarily lead right into Dalek. The Long Game doesn't lead into Father's Day, which itself doesn't lead into the Empty Child.

mfw 10 used TWO regenerations up in just 5 years

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Honestly you can still cop out and say that 10 was just counting years weirdly. That's what I would do if I was Big Finish. Something like him only counting his age when he's with a companion or some shit.

And desu I don't mind that. The Time War as portrayed in Day of the Doctor was underwhelming, I always imagined it wacky stuff which affected the continuity in-universe. It was the TIME War after all.

In fact I think at some point there is a reference to people aging and regressing on the battlefield just like that, so it's probably true.

RTD's Rose prequel has 8 state he's lived for 5 million years.

It just feels insincere though. Like you can tell that his age was presented in the show honestly. You'd basically be kidding yourself.

Reminder.

Eccleston --> Tennant

Tennant --> Tennant

Tennant --> Smith

Smith --> Capaldi

Capaldi --> Whittaker

Whittaker --> Tennant

Tennant --> Gatwa

Once again, a reminder that the only nuWho Doctos who did not change from or change into Tennant was Capaldi.

Clive's photos imply that he's travelled extensively before the events of S1.

I always thought he just went around time intentionally getting photographed (he's even looking directly at the camera most of the time) to seed time travel proof for Rose so he could convince her to travel with him. He just spent a couple hours showing up in newsworthy photos across time and then tipped off Clive after.

I’m not so lazy that I’ll get AI to read a book to me

12 has that face because of what 10 did in Fires of Pompeii though. So Tennant is linked to every NewWho Doctor (Fugitive is non-canon).

David Tennant has had disastrous consequences on Doctor Who.

Eat, Prey, Fart

Wonder who wrote this one…

Not exactly, he states that during just one battle that shrapnel aged him to five million and also aged him back into a baby. He didn't actually live those 5 million years.

War Doctor debuted in a special alongside Tennant

Now imagine the 16 rumours are true

doesn't want to go

keeps coming back

It's like poetry.

And he'll soon be back for the An Unearthly Child remake, where we'll get to see him almost brain a caveman played by John Simm.

That knock where you know exactly what it is, and it's not some epic grandiose mystery. Fuuuck ;_;

I hate weird 'non deaths' (absorbed too much magic) and want more standard deaths (shot by gangsters) but this WHEN the show should dial up the pathos and really matter.

They've a more bittersweet, staring into the sunset regeneration. Back to pain and tears and regeneration sickness for a full episode, PLEASE.

desu conrad was in the right, UNIT at this point is too public NOT to have some level of accountability and openness about what they do.

wanting the government to have accountability

What are you, some kind of fascist?

All memes aside, when and why did leftists start thinking this way?

Fuck off back to tumblr you queer

This is true and if RTD was inspired by those 'auditor' guys as well as various TikTok influencer shock jock types, conspiracy theories, and so on, it's perfectly valid to 'stress test' the system in a way. I mean they look like complete fucking idiots now if, publicly, Conrad got away with all this shit. These are the guys protecting humans from aliens? Actual existential threats?

They hold all the keys and have all the fancy tech. I wouldn't mind it if they actually wrote in UNIT being scaled down to a lack of funding following negative public support. I hate that stupid tower and how THEY always have some magic solution to everything. They used to just be guys on a base.

Does the classic series ever explicitly say they want to kill everyone who isn't a Dalek? It seems to be such an assumption fans have leaped on, that I'm not sure actually comes from anywhere in particular.
Half of their episodes are just "we fucking hate the Thals", and half of their episodes are "we invaded some place or another and started enslaving people", and then there's a few "we hate the other Daleks because they serve Davros and we only serve ourselves" episodes, toward the end.

What exactly is UNIT like now - I haven't been watching it. Is it being portrayed as a super secret black ops organisation or something?

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RTD literally doesn't give a shit. As far as he's concerned Davros was never in a "wheelchair", because that's the kick he's on these days.
His design isn't a man in a wheelchair, it's a man who's half way to being a Dalek. It's like a metaphor, and stuff. Media literacy man, c'mon

he will knock 4 times

I don't care if it's gay, when you hear that knock and the camera turns to show Wilf waving hesitantly at the Doctor, I teared up like a bitch.

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Is it being portrayed as a super secret black ops organisation or something?

It's like Torchwood in that they have a big tower in London now. But it's also portrayed as being tight lipped about all of the alien technology they have and not sharing it out.

Ncuti > Tennant

If you are gay, yes.

I think gays actually prefer Tennant, just a guess though

Only gays and trans like Ncuti. Everyone likes Tennant.

No one likes Tennant, it's one big inside joke to ironically praise him

The public knowledge of aliens and UNIT both are treated extremely inconsistently and I never have a good grasp on what the state of the world is supposed to be for them.

Enough gay posting, post something for the dads.

The status quo was that the public doesn't know about aliens, or what UNIT does, and UNIT presumably keeps it under wraps somehow.
Well, they've taken a wrecking ball to that whole idea.

No. It is something that emerged in NuWho, or at last NuWho codified the idea. As you get at, in Classic the Daleks are more portrayed as subjugators and on occasion infighters. It is not that they have issue with genocide, just that they are not operating on some imperative or ultimate goal that makes them would-be genociders of everything - taken to the extreme in Nu with the reality bomb. As to why this shift happened in their perception it seems to be a conflation of: their general use of the word exterminate to just mean kill having conations that invoke the idea of genocide, their desire to genocide the Thals, the use of Nazi iconography as visual shorthand (most notably for the Kelads in Genesis) and the claims that get made that the Daleks are basically just the Nazis, and generally just the Daleks going-on about themselves being the superior beings.

I know this means fuck all by the this point with NuWho and NuNuWho at that, but have I been misreading Classic wrong? I was under the impression that UNIT is something that is known about. Maybe the masses do not know about them btfo of aliens every month, but it is not some Torchwood deep state black ops secret organisation with no oversight.

Yeah in the 70s they were literally just a UN military arm that reported to Geneva and occasionally clashed with the British Government.

I think they were known about, just not the specifics of what they *did*.

NuWho has turned UNIT into something else entirely at this point, they fill the role now that Torchwood initially did in the RTDverse.

NuUNIT seems very Agents of Shield-coded, which I think is missing the point. Classic UNIT were almost boring, but in a good way. They were just military personnel doing their jobs.

Imagine if a NuWho episode took place in the 80s during the old UNIT era and they broke out the old falklands camo and FALs.

What exactly is UNIT like now

they have a giant avengers-esque tower in the middle of London

I took this as an Alex Jones esque truism. Substitute "we all know that." with "believe me."

He just doesn't get it, does he?

Nice try, I can spot AI generated slop from a mile away. As if that would ever be in the show.

Old UNIT were so kino.

Chap with the wings there, 5 rounds rapid.

It's true.
They also have an alt-right podcast grifter stage his own J6 attack on it.

Need me a UNIT mod for X-Com where you get the Doctor as a special UNIT (who regenerates if he dies).

Uh, *special unit

asks for proof of aliens

get denied

seek it out anyways

some crotchety old bitch sics an alien on me because I'm a straight white male who is apparently some sort of anti-authority terrorist for asking for obviously very easily to prove proof of aliens

get thrown in prison for it

gay nigger from outer space kidnaps me and threatens to torture me because I questioned a woman's authority

Wouldn't the episode make so much more sense if he was trying to prove that UNIT *do* know about aliens?
I mean, shit like that has literally happened. People have gone to prison for fucking around with gov organisations, trying to find proof of aliens.
Seems like such an obvious first draft error.

I don't think there's a single way to give an episode synopsis for that one without it coming across as a sincere & unironic shitpost. Really says a lot about nuwho.

it was just one big seethe against charismatic white men and youtube right wing grifters

Classic right wing podcaster bit: trying to prove aliens aren't real, in order to make women look silly

There's actual crossover between "bro" podcasts, and people who believe in aliens anyway. Joe Rogan is always talking to Hancock.
RTD is genuinely just so fucking out of touch, and has no idea what he's trying to comment on here.

It's not even like the aliens were a secret. All it would have taken was a quick, "Well, actually, would you like to see some of the aliens we've captured and how UNIT actually helps protect earth? We can't allow you to film everything of course, but we'll allow you to film some of the safer ones and even do a small QA session to help you and your audience better understand, if you'd like!" But no. You're slapped with a, "Dude, just trust women, bro. Don't be an incel and just blindly trust that the authority is right, needs zero oversight, and knows better than you do. You're a literal terrorist worse than Hitler, worthy of temporal torture if you don't."

Which aliens are the public supposed to know about as a matter of course? It's all so poorly constructed in a world-building sense.
Is it to be taken as a given that the average person just knows about Zygons, and is okay with it? Could we maybe see this established somewhere, before dropping whatever this story is?

It sounds too crazy to be true... But I believe these leaks. Something about the vibe of the fanbase rn, it's like they're all preparing for the worst

handsome

charming

straight

white

REEEEEEEEEEE HE'S EVIL! HE'S HOMOPHOBIC, MISOGYNISTIC, AND RACIST!!!!

I think I know what RTD is trying to say here. He's seething about being a young gay man and all the "doable barkers" he tried to hit on who were straight and rejected him. Just another case of him airing his dirty laundry through TV.

I honestly don't care if they do end it in a definitive way.
All that means is when they do revive it in a few years, they basically have to write off this whole era as a separate canon, which I want them to do anyway.

I know there is some diversity stuff going on with film and television, but we're veering dangerously close to

i know what the telly is REALLY saying it sends ME secret signals!!!

here, anon.

I like him. He's a weaselly little shit, and the guy plays him really well. He's not some coded attack on the white man, in no way are they even suggesting "this is what white people are like".

It's Doctor Who: the show with more problems than you can count. There's no need to make them up here, Anon Babble-anon.

Anon.
This is the same show where RTD is making sure the whole wide world knows that his dying husband spent his last years in a wheelchair.
He's not exactly being subtle anymore.

He's pretty clearly supposed to be a standin for fans who refuse to "believe in the current Doctor".
He gets his wish, and he makes him turn straight. C'mon.

Did he really? Sad that he had to be Dalek-lite. RTD should've hooked him into a machine and been done with it.

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Or the timelords could have just given him a single regeneration instead of an entire cycle

I've said it before and I'll say again, the show makes a lot morse sense if you consider the Doctor is dying for real in the Doctor falls and everything subsequently (female doctor, gay black doctor, wishes and dreams made real, gods are real, callbacks to things he remembers) is just his mind dying.

He's a literal Disney Prince btw. He was in the Little Mermaid.

I wasn't expecting the gay kiss. I'm not mad or anything but I also lament it. The doctor hasn't been an asexual alien for a long time and he's been making gay comments about men most of the new series. So how upset can you really be. But the show is really old and this is supposed to be the same guy as Tom Baker and shit. I have trouble with it

It died in a meta sense. He quite literally let himself go. The new show is called Doctor Who, but the Doctor is no longer present.

Everything after the movie (and 8/Charley Big Finish) is non-canon.

What's every companion's favorite position?

who cares?

First NuWho Doctor

If we let go. That's who I am.

Final NuWho Doctor

I let you go.

Pottery