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Wish World waiting room edition

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Just reality war. Wish World will be going up the usual time today.
Then next week for the finale they'll air wish-world first in Cinema's and then finale after when it goes live on BBC 1, Iplayer and D+ iirc.

Is her sonic screwdriver a IUD?

I'm so excited for some New Who! See you guys in a few hours, good night!

Ah yes RTD continuing his tradition of giving all time lords the same shit as the Doctor
They all have to have screwdriver gadgets apparently

"He's coming Russel. This is your last chance. I shall not say that again. Kill the Doctor!"

Hahahahaha! Yeah, it looks like a lubricant applicator for women.

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Either that or a corkscrew for a wine mom.
Who the fuck okayed this?

It's a syringe, she's a scientist. Not that hard to understand.

I have never seen a curved flange before.

Nigger.

I can't wait to see RTD end Reality War at a horrible cliffhanger so that when there's death in the next episode, we won't care about the stakes.

LoL! Probably both a corkscrew and yeast infection medication/lube applicator. Perfect! Hahahahaha

But unironically.

These two unironically killed this franchise.

the episode where the Doctor met the Tardis in the form of woman is one of Dr. Who's saddest episodes.

The Space Jesus scene started RTD's downfall.

because it was written by Neil Gaiman?

doctor who

I enjoy Doccy Who

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more like chocky poo

I hate that episode so much. The epitome of telling over showing and fanfiction-tier hyper-elaboration of things that should have always remained unsaid.

They didn't even have the obligatory sex scene.

It's up!

Dubs decide what classic stories I watch today instead of RTD2 slop.

The Time Warrior

The Visitation

The Mark of the Rani

Adric: He read your mind?

Doctor: Well, he's a Time Lord! In many ways, we have the same mind.

RTD is using Logopolis to not bother giving other timelords any individuality and writing them the same as the Doctor.

Infero

The Talons of Weng-Chiang

Timelash.

Quints says Sea Devils

Is it shit?

That anon was lying, it isn't out for another 15 minutes.

But yes, it's shit.

it isn't out for another 15 minutes.

Can some anon just skip through and get a screenshot of CGI Crab claw Omega, for shitpost purposes

Think the beebs fucked up.
Says this programme will be available shortly after broadcast despite being on iplayer.
Lmao

it's actually up now

Can't believe the chuds made the Doctor straight

Pure filth:
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Please someone post Omega so I can sleep and avoid the episode

this is the future the beeb wants

Omega's in. They use audio clips of him. No CGI hand in this episode.

Jesus. At least 4th's eyes bulging out was funny

They call Omega the "first Timelord" so I guess there's gonna be some Timeless Child retcons or fuckery next episode?

doubt people who exist to mutter a series of numbers

hey, I've seen this one before!

This niggas having doubts

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He doubted? Slip it.

This bitch scared me shitless back in the day

i have a daughter, poppy is real

What did he mean by this?

Bel calling the cops on 15s gay thoughts made me laugh

they keep having these insane finales where they introduce a villain who should be an entire season's villain and then he dies in 50 minutes

15 remembers who he is with a series of flashbacks of him twerking surrounded by men

What a nothing episode.

When the babby god made Conrad's wish to make the world better into reality, it also made the Doctor's quote from space babies that he wished he was poppy's daddy real too.

Does RTD think this dystopian present where everyone is forced to be straight, is what the real world is like?

It's like totally literally what's happening right heckin now with all the Conrads of the world in power

For a second , thinking about the "rani is the doctors sister" rumor, I thought "jeez ,her pretending they were lovers is odd."

That and the "blind to disabled poeple" bit-rtd just has negative subtlety it's hilarious

Imagine this episode but people get arrested for questioning trans or race crime statistics or something.

Just tell me whether CGI claw Omega actually shows up and let me die.

Can someone just post screen-grabs of the cliffhanger or best bits, none of the pirate sites bother to upload Doctor Who anymore (Dead enough that not even they see value)

Mrs. Flood is obviously going to turn good.

Conrad is blind to the struggles of disabled people

Because he does not know about the cocktail of drugs that it's necessary for Shirley to take to survive, she no longer needs them

Because he does not know about the ins-and-outs of wheelchair maintenance, her chair is always in pristine condition

What a cruel reality he has forced them into.

experimenting on the pantheon is a cool idea if done right

Rani opens the portal and Omega's voice is heard, but we don't see him yet.

just mentioned by name, no cgi anything yet
interestingly they call him the first time lord

There's nothing to screen grab. It's just the Rani explaining her plan to bring "the underverse" and Omega back (complete with flashes of the word "omega" on the screen). Then the balcony that the Doctor is on falls, while skyscrapers come out a glowing rip in the sky. It's just every RTD finale first parter

that's tecteun

I was kind of zoned out by the end so I didn't even realise that was supposed to be Omega speaking, I just thought 'wow, Conrad sounds weird there'

So Conrad isn't the Master? Russell Tovey 16th Doctor confirmed.

this whole story is just an excuse to retcon the timeless child kek

I think it'll double down on The Timeless Child instead - though audience will be led to believe otherwise.

Anon, RTD likes the Timeless Child.
His mate Chibnall came up with it, so it definitely isn't as nonsensical and widely disliked as "half-human on my mother's side", so doubling down is a good thing.

The book Conrad was reading was written by Susan Foreman

Lore is whatever is canon to you or not. It exists superfluous to the show. You want the Timeless Child and Faction Paradox? Sure. You don't want it? That's cool as well? That's the message of Wish World.

Trying to remember if The Legend of Ruby Sunday was this light on plot

Go back and check the transcript

RUBY: Just don't go changing your [face], okay?
DOCTOR: Oh, no. I'm keeping this one for a long, long time.

Lol.

Lore is whatever is canon to you or not.

That's the message of Wish World.

Anon... that's the message of the villains.

Wish World is created by a racist, sexist, homophobic character

dugga doo

Oh, and anti-disability also, just all the negative traits RTD wants to call fans who dislike The Timeless Child.

Why doesn't Conrad just wish the disabled people to normal health

Probably doesn't think they deserve to be normal.

It's weird to see a throwaway character like Krasko become the finale villain.

Of-course the person who was shilling the series the entire time was actually in the show:

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millie looked really good in this episode.

I thank you Rani for bringing me back. But I must ask, was making the Doctor straight really necessary? I mean this one seems pretty queer and I didn't found a Time Lord society that decimates against gender and sexual fluidity.

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A good show would have the disabled people be healed to create some drama and and dilemma about if its ok to "fix" disableds or have it be a downside of "fixing" the wish world ("do i have the right?") But Russell just wants to attack people

RTD1 would have done that.

What Time Lord would be the most homophobic and why is it Rassilon?

Horrible little shill in his shillchair

But he wished the gay away, so what's the difference?

Imagine if Conrad made the Doctor white.

an episode where nothing happens just for a name drop

It's shit

It was funny seeing Rani dancing to classical music instead of pop but why the campy disco/dance scene at all every season

I like how they couldn't get Gatwa to do a kiss on the lips with a woman and had to go for the cheek kiss instead.

They forced Eccleston to kiss Barrowman on the lips.

This is why RTD2 failed.
Russel can't get his Doctor to kiss the wrong sex on the lips anymore.

This was RTD doing his best Moffat impression. He took it to heart you thought Moffat was better.

They literally kiss on the lips when they wake up in bed at the very beginning

No, Wild Blue Yonder was RTD desperately trying to be Moffat then failing horribly.

Honored to be in this screencap

Oh right. I forgot Rogue exists

it's RTD trying to emulate the worst of Moffat, The Wedding of River Song, and yet he still did it worse than Moffat, which is pretty embarassing.

How did the Rani even know about him to psyop the Doctor into remembering

Its another "Russel creates a strawman to attack his own audience" episode

Earth in May 2025 is in a vindicator web being influenced by a wish god

some time traveling space faggot from the 1800's is also beamed into a Hell dimension...for some reason.

Hell yeah

Please understand, RTD had to come up for a way for Rogue to cameo on short notice now Ncuti's left so there's never going to be a S3 episode where they meet up again in person to fuck.

There was a portrait of Susan Twist in the lobby in that episode.

True, but wish world is his attempt at a big alternate world like The Pandorica Opens/Big Bang and The Wedding of River Song. And it fucking sucks.

Good God man, have you never heard of downloads?

I miss Moffat bros...

Anyone got a link to the episode? Can't find it on Dailymotion

Giant skeletons walking around a dreamed up world where teapots fall through tables and a conspiracy theorist runs a TV show in order to awaken a dead time god using the power of a giggling baby. That is Moffat all over.

The Wedding of River Song was famously a load of rushed, convoluted nonsense that disappointed everyone invested in the Series 6 story arc

RTD decides to do his own spin on the same basic idea

Why???

I literally burst out laughing when the said "Omega"
Like is RTD really trying to bring back the lost fans by pandering to every interview mystery box guess? Hell Stubagful from years ago made a joke about this in his season 8 reviews, and he's a washed up depressed nobody nowadays.

But this episode was all set up, nothing to truly stand on its own, just mystery box set up. Belinda and Ruby looked good though, they should lez out and become tradwifes together

So basically.

Doctor's toxic maybe Ex depending on what RTD wants canon, teams up with a chud to wish a new world into existence where the Doctor has to be a straight guy, so the Doctor's maybe ex who's now two ex's can use the combined power of the newly born god of wishes and the doctor's memories, which only got triggered because the doctor's currently love interest is trapped in hell and made him realize he loved men, which caused Bellinda to get him deported. This combination of events now allows the two Rani's and Mr Chud to summon Omega from the underverse.

Is that correct?

The worst part is The Rani and Omega are literally whos who were in like 2 stories each. Nobody fucking cares about them.
I really hope this is it for Doctor Who. It just needs to be put to rest until someone new and creative can take it over. 15 year hiatus please.

I really thought it was gonna turn out to be the Ediface from the Ancestor Cell, and that the TARDIS once again exploded
But RTD can't even rip off cool ideas from bad books right

Also The Doctor realizing he wanted to kiss men was integregal because his doubt for liking women is the only thing strong enough in the universe to rip open reality and summon the underverse.

This seemed like a big finish story. Just missing Jackie Tyler.

Gay man being told to "just reign it in a bit" will literally destroy the universe

he's doing his own spin but it's far more boring
at least in the river song episode they had visuals like the pterodactyls attacking people for sandwiches and charles dickens on bbc 1

Lmao. No. Any RTD "twist" is the most shallow and thoughtless lore-pull

Beep The Meep

Toymaker

Sutekh

Rani

Omega

It's so tiring.

Omega's always been a shit, hammy villain, but at least there's some basic prestige of him having been in The Three Doctors and his position as one of the first Time Lords. As dull as he is, you can at least see some justification for bringing the character back.
But the Rani was the villain of one of the worst stories in the show's history and the entire appeal of the character rested solely on Kate O'Mara's performance. Nobody ever actually CARED about the Rani.
It's just so fucking desperate.

Like is RTD really trying to bring back the lost fans by pandering to every interview mystery box guess?

Yes... all for the sake of calling them racist, sexist, anti-disability, homophobic, incel, grifters.

Susan, The Rani, Omega and likely The Master all returning for a final episode to again reinforce the Timeless Child and expand on it even further to ruin the legacy of The Doctor.

Reoccurring phrase or person throughout the season

Is revealed to be a returning famous monster from classic who

World/reality is ending

Solved with an unsatisfying deus ex machina

Russel really needs to change the formula

"Hey guys its me, RTD. I know you guys loved Parting of the Ways and Midnight, so I've done those episodes but worse"

The giggle was a baby all along.

My FRAUKIN hero.
A true writer of pure, kino. No one can ever compete with Russel, my fraukin' lord!

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Will the fourth wall breaking be explained?

Can't forget they'll bring back The Mara and the Trickster next season at this rate. Maybe even Voord, the Zarbi and one for Big Finish, The Word Lord

So...could the rani just turn people into birds because she was holding a magic baby?
How is this Doctor Who?

No, that's a carry over from before russel read the instagram comments thinking she was The Rani and he changed it.

should have turned them into dugga doos

So Mel's dying in the next episode right? As everything else apart from that, Gatwa regenerating and the CGI Hand of Omega have yet to be shown on screen and the last two are 100% happening.

Don't ask questions, chud
Just wait until they reveal it next season

But Russel.. I don't think we're getting another season!

She worked out the science behind the pantheon so she can use magic now, or something.

TRUEEE

Can't believe this was all a stunt by the Rani to get some time-lord dicking so she can repopulate Gallifrey, just cause the gay Doctor would never fuck her and she has to go and pull Omega out from the underworld.

I could excuse some of the magical handwaving Moffat did in season 5 because of the charming fairytale theme, like Amy wishing The Doctor back into the universe at her wedding, that was earned after an entire season, but this season has just been lazy tonal disaster. So when RTD pulls shit like that it makes me hate it even more, like he thinks he's earned the right to play loose with the narrative. Retarded.

The Rani's one defining characteristic is that she's a scientist

Make her do magic now

Ummm thanks Russel

Sins of Flesh was the better gay conversion therapy story desu

People have always joked about the reveal never being omega and the Rani so to have both back seems odd. It's like when Morbius took the joke feedback seriously.

I don't want to defend this too much but the Rani using science to make her own timelords, and bring them back it actually a good use of her character, it's just convoluted how they've done it now.
maybe she could've used Looms instead.

I can't wait for the finale to have the Rani and Omega have raw, monstrous sex, for 44 minutes and the last 10 to be explaining that Bigeneration is actually a side effect of The Timeless Child experiments and ALL time Lords could bigenerate and the Doctor was just bad at it

stress testing the pantheon's powers to bring back omega sounds like something a time lord mad scientist should be doing

Oh don't get me wrong. I've no issues with Rani in a post time war world being the one who wants to try and bring the Time Lords back. Of course she seemed a lot more against the Time Lords in classic, but clearly Russel just wants you to believe a lot of shit happened off screen for his new direction.
But I'm still going to take the piss that we're now in a situation when we already had Gallifrey back where the scientist time-lord needs to wish on a literal god baby to bring back Omega because they decided to blow up Gallifrey again a few seasons back

So Poppy is actually the Doctor and Belinda's daughter now? What does that mean?

I would have preferred to see Ruby as the Doctor's wife.

So is Poppy "real" as in she wasn't a creation of the wish? Or real as in that IS the doctors daughter and she is part time lord?
I'm sure we'll find out next week and I'm sure it'll be disappointing

poppy is the doctor and the rani’s child. the rani alluded to them being something romantic once upon a time.

I will say that there is potential with the Rani & Omega, the Rani is a mad scientist and Omega is a tragic figure.
You can't just 'reveal' them because you are right, they are literal who's, they need to be reestablished and fleshed out first.

choccy who

Why do RTD and Moffat have to make The Master and the Rani be Doc who's old flames?
What's wrong with them just being enemies or just old acquaintances?

The Doctor wished he was her dad in the space babies episode.

Link to the episode?

Poppy is gonna be the Doctor's adopted daughter (and Susan's mother) all because gays can't reproduce

Russel is literally unwell

next season

Anon...

so how is it
are we in for an empire of death 2.0 soon?

Jenny fans seething rn

It's funny that RTD is changing so much just to fit in Ncuti being gay. Especially when it's highly unlikely that the role will be played by a flaming gay man again

Russell Tovey

It's funny because Nardole was straight despite Matt Lucas being gay.

We'll get a next season, but it won't have the Disney budget and it will have Doctor kiss the Rogue man before he regens into Tom Holland and has sex with new companion, Holly from Remember Monday

after 13, 14 & 15 it would good to have a masculine doctor again, maybe someone gruff like 9 or an action hero like 3.
but I don't think they'll go in that direction again.

Ruby's step mother really hates her.

I hope we get a grumpy old man again like 12

I hope we get a sexy young woman

Ummmm that would be glorifying toxic masculinity and Andrew Tate. We can't have that chud

You see a sexually liberated female doctor would in fact be owning the chuds, not fanservice Russell.

I wish but we'll never have that again, not marketable enough
They made 13 completely sexless, they don't to risk any objectification
I afraid your right, even if we get a white man again they'll make him a little zesty.

The funny thing is now would be the perfect time to have Doctor Who present a more positive masculine figure to help combat the social influence fag grifters like Tate. But no, we get a crying queer or Billie Piper (girl boss mode) instead

"The Rani and The Doctor were once lovers who danced the waltz"
BASED RUSSEL I KNEEL TO THE TRAD HETERONORMATIVE DOCTOR WHO! CONRAD WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG

Russel. Why are all your time lord villains the Doctor's ex?

When we used to talk about the Doctor being a woman it was pointed out that the character wasn't strictly macho, he was pacifist, compassionate and often defeated his enemies with indirect means.
The character does show masculine qualities a well, he takes charge, he firmly stands for what he believes and he can physically fight when he needs to.

I'm just saying he's been a mix between the feminine and masculine bit they seem dot have forgotten that, but the like you said of a friendly masculine doctor would be great, a sort of big brother or an uncle figure.

Because its the only way modern fans can understand, evil people are your ex OR your dad
So Omega will be Tecteun's husband and the Doctors father, and the Rani will be his first girlfriend and Susan's grandmother obviously

Any maybe Belinda will be Patience or The Master who knows

So with only one more set of episodes that Disney paid for out of the 24, the TARDIS has been blown up, the Doctor is a homo, and his wife is homophobic.
So next season will have the Doctor stuck on Earth with a faulty TARDIS, we need another old companion back so Jo Grant or Nysaa. Romana will be in the finale to fix the TARDIS, and Ncuti will regenerate, cut to credits and the show will go on hiatus for another decade.

Sasuga, Russell the Davis, I knew the madlad could pull it off, making Doctor Who a mess not even Rob Shearman could fix

Apparently that "Omega shall be free" audio clip is from one of the Big Finish box sets

Just finished the ep

Doctor Who is fucking dead isn't it

Anywhere I can download it?

Archive footage since the BF VA for that died few years back.
So Omega in the next episode is either just gonna use archive voice lines, a new actor, won't speak. Or be Peter Davison.

What a fucking mess

Not yet
Next week when Omega is revealed to be a hot young twink, and has sex with the Doctor while Belinda watches, then it'll be over

it's a cgi crab monster

Mr Tardis is probably furious
Also shame nobody told Russell that Tharries was a massive critic who associated with bowlestrek before he switched teams and decided Doctor Who was better than ever now

Ahh so the Macra
Incredibly based

The was no real reason to have the Rani bigenerate.

mrs flood can't do serious scenes

Any new lines they write for him would suck anyway.

Rani: "Omega was the first Timelord."

Doctor: "Well akshually..."

Is RTD really kicking the Timeless Child shit into the garbage?

Where is he?

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I do not care, not even a little bit.

RTD genuinely believed Space Babies would be a smash hit loooooool

Nope. The whole episode was about misinformation and a fake reality. So the Doctor will have to reinforce the "truth" that he's the actual first Timelord, not Omega. It's Russel doubling down on the Timeless Child stuff and calling you a Conrad if you disagree. It's another gay meta commentary attacking the fans

YOU'RE A MAN
HOW CAN YOU FIND ANOTHER MAN BEAUTIFUL

Babies from space! They have little farting rocket strollers and everything.