Superman, James Gunn and the DCU

Without fanboy warring, memes or anything, let's discuss what will happen to this new "DCU" if Superman does the kind of numbers that the last few Marvel/DC movies do. It's releasing at the same time as a Marvel "tentpole" and also Jurassic World: Dominion which will win the most BO, out of the three. They picked the worst possible release window to put a movie this half-baked in, despite spending over 300m dollars to make it.

I think if it fails, they'll push out Lanterns (the HBO show they've already shot) but cut out the DCU connections or setup but will tax write-off Supergirl because if Superman bombs then releasing that movie is out of the question. What then? Does Zazlav sell DC? Never happening but he'll fire Gunn/Safran and dissolve DC Studios as insiders have suggested. He'll put DC back into the general IP pool WB has and go back to making standalone movies without universal bullshit which has never worked out for them. I think the only DC movie that'll get made in the near future is Constantine II and maybe Clayface. DC gets back to what it does best, standalone Elseworlds movies and they drop the "DCU".

James Gunn Presents

A James Gunn Film

....James Gunn's Superman

puts himself in a comic cover meant to promote the film next to the lead actor

puts himself in the opening credits of the first DCU project (that animated show that released a while back)

This guy is either having some kind of grandeur delusion episode or I don't fucking know.

Nobody cares. DC died long ago. They're dragging a dead corpse along hoping it somehow comes back to life. Fat chance. They're missing the point. This has already been done so many times. They're not doing anything new. Its the same old story. Again. And again. You want to have a hit, put something else out besides the same few boring characters. They're played out, move on

tldr
Gunn ftw

DC isn't dead. Marvel is dead. The cinematic universe model is a black hole. They can't reboot after 40 films and god knows how many TV shows. They've shat the bed and can't replace the sheets. Now they just get to lie in the shit and mix it in. Marvel can't just reboot or do a standalone movie to win back people's trusts. DC can. Even if Superman bombs worse than The Marvels, DC can always pump out a mid-budget Elseworlds movie and get people back on their side. Remember back in 2019 when everyone wrote DC off and then Joker came out, did a billion, won Oscars? Same thing.

Fucking Marvel that has an actual juggernaut of a brand is struggling to remain relevant and DC tries to build a "DCU", what a joke

Ironically DC had the key for actually getting interest in its IP with "gritty" loose adaptations like Joker or even Reeves Batman, and proceeded to torpedo it into oblivion

How long until they cave and ask Nolan to do a fourth Dark Knight movie?

It looks good and the response I've seen online (outside of Anon Babble) is good, but the crowded release window will definitely be a problem. Fantastic Four will probably take the biggest hit from it, but it will eat into Superman and Jurassic World's earnings as well.

ask Nolan to do a fourth Dark Knight movie?

They already have. Bale said no.

I hope all 3 fail

be DC fan

nearly 10 years of DC being a laughingstock because they've desperately tried to capture the MCU trend

fail after fail after fail

misery compounds until an Elseworlds project somehow slips under the radar

is acclaimed and beloved by everyone

wins Oscars, does great BO, better than any of the universe entries at both reception and profit

after Joker and The Batman, you think they've finally learnt their lesson and will drop the cinematic universe obsession

get excited at what the future holds, maybe Constantine II finally gets made

Get James Boylover Gunn to reboot AGAIN from scratch and give him the keys to DC so he can make it his own personal playground

Joker 2 is a huge failure

Reeves gets cancer and The Batman II and The Penguin s2 get cancelled

mfw

Anon. Every single DC movie has either bombed or underperformed.

Even The Batman didn’t make the billion that WB wanted and made less money than Dr Strange 2 of all things.

It did alright, for the time it was released. More importantly, the reception was great from people. So much so that it spawned an equally well received HBO show. Myself? I thought it was mediocre and that Joker at the end? Horrible. But it was a standalone DC movie like days of old. It gave people that Nolan Batman nostalgia and they clamored over it.

Open up the character stable and license them out?

NEVER going to happen. DC just gets any "good" and high level director they can get and just gives them full access to any IP of their choosing in the hope they get a new Nolan trilogy out of it.

This will probably get raped hard at the box office and if they are not retarded they'll stick to the plan still. If they fuck Gunn over like they did Snyder, then the brand its scorched earth for the foreseeable future, at least regarding any cinematic universe model.

What then?

They take out the Suicide Squad Ayer Cut from the vault and beg Zack Snyder to make JL Part 2

So much so that it spawned an equally well received HBO show.

They had made the show before the movie had even been released. Same thing with The Suicide Squad and season 1 of Peacemaker. Or Superman and the Lanterns show.

Bros... This shot really did it for me. Made me even tear up a little.

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Still, like I said, it was a spiritual continuation of Nolan's Batman and people lapped it up. It was DC finally putting out something good. Then they even ruined the strength of the Elseworlds branding by allowing Phillips to make a fucking hit piece against internet communities instead of a proper sequel. So idk. WB is a mental asylum, not a film studio.

Sirs
Superman needings us
We MUST do the needful for James Gunn

Superman official yt channel trailer got 12 mil views in 1 day. Its going to make at least 500+. After that comes Peacemaker s2, a guaranteed hit. If Superman gets good reviews, Supergirl will be another success. And Green Lanterns is already finished filming too that will be releasing no matter what.

Time to snyderjeets to accept defeat and move on to whatever retarded thing z*ck is doing on Netflix.

I don't feel that confident in the movie.

Gunn doesn't know you exist, loser.

Marvel won the battles and the war. I give props to DC for Joker and the 2 Academy Awards. A DC villain has won two Oscar’s!!!!! That’s cray, cray.

Superman official yt channel trailer got 12 mil views in 1 day.

12 million is low. Rebel Moon had similar numbers iirc.

Joker made as much as a tentpole MCU release back in 2019. DC can EASILY win the war, it's laughable. But alas...

Ghosbusters 2016 had a much better reception online than Suicide Squad but the latter made a lot of money. It was the same with Bop and Sonic. The internet isn't a good meter of the general population

Jurassic World: Dominion which will win the most BO

I always forget that there was a Jurassic park between the Chris Pratt one and this new one coming out. I know the Chris Pratt one did well how did the sequel do?

I feel that if this movie wasn't such a huge retread of previous shit it'd would have been a lot better. People are tired of seeing Superman rebooted. I think half of the reason people wanted more out of Henry Cavill's Superman was just to see more of an older Superman who's already with Lois, is about to become a father and a leader of the Justice League. Because it is something new.

Same reason why that show that just finished was so popular. Superman was already an established hero and a family man. It felt like it could go places previous shit has never gone.
This movie though just feels like a weird mix of Donner and Snyder's movies with a saturated look and more comedy.

DC can EASILY win the war, it's laughable

They self-sabotage at every opportunity. Imagine you get Snyder to commit to making a 5 movies capeshit version of LotR for you and you just blow him off after two movies slightly underperforming (in the context of unrealistic expectations to begin with), utterly ruin the third one by hiring the hack your competitor just got rid of to take over (remind you of something?) and then produce nothing but straight flops (except for Joker, which isn't part of the same continuity).

If Superman bombs it's not too difficult to predict wb's next moves

Supergirl releases as normal (you're retarded to think it will be an unreleased tax write off - that happened with Batgirl because it was a made-for-tv movie that didn't have the quality needed for a cinema release and contradicted the constantly-rewritten new lore in regards to Keaton's Batman) maybe has a smaller advertising budget

Peacemaker season 2 releases as normal

Subsequent projects have their budgets slashed, or are outright put on pause while wb waits for results from Supergirl and Peacemaker

The Batman Part II is fast-tracked, Reeves isn't directing anymore so they'll grab a random director-for-hire and give them a blank paycheck

The Penguin season 2/another spinoff show is fast-tracked

wait and see

He's been seething over Snyder ever since the Snyder cut overshadowed his Suicide Squad film. That's why the first thing he did when he took over was annihilate the remnants of the Snyderverse.
He's jealous of Snyder's cult fanbase and wants to foster his own cult fanbase. It's pure ego.

the Snyder cut overshadowed his Suicide Squad film

I wish I could live in a fantasy world like Snydercucks do and just make up whatever shit and believe it with all my heart

denying history out of seethe

lmao

What is this then? Do you remember any Peacemaker figures being made and sold?

It did. Publicity was huge and all those nerd celebs like Kojima and Liefeld were glazing it. Have you seen the box office for TSS though? Dude.

That shot of superman looks so bad, wtf was he thinking?

the stage is perfectly set for Superman vs The Elite

new villains that challenge Superman in a metacontext spurred by the character's perception in the real world

use the Elite as a way to prove people wrong about Superman

instead

DO LEX LUTHOR AGAIN OH AND ADD KRYPTO THE FUCKING DOG

DC is deserving of their misery. IT WAS STARING THEM RIGHT IN THE FUCKING FACE BUT THEY JUST DID LEX LUTHOR AGAIN

FUCK

The Suicide Squad (2021)

worldwide box office: $168,717,425

>Supergirl releases as normal (you're retarded to think it will be an unreleased tax write off - that happened with Batgirl because it was a made-for-tv movie that didn't have the quality needed for a cinema release and contradicted the constantly-rewritten new lore in regards to Keaton's Batman) maybe has a smaller advertising budget

You're wrong on this one. Supergirl is a direct sequel/prequel to Superman and there's no chance they'd release it. They'll just put it on streaming and that's it.

Peacemaker season 2 releases as normal

Sadly.

The Batman: Part II is fasttracked

Probably but you're also missing that WB/DC have another sure thing: Constantine II. The first one had huge numbers in its recent 4k release and has a big cult following plus Keanu's star is very hot after John Wick.

restoring snyderverse is the best move because it'd be unprecedented, just like zsjl

I think, worst case scenario, it does Captain America: BNW numbers and WB just fire Gunn and make Safran the head of DC Studios and the DCU is quietly cancelled alltogether. Lanterns is released. Supergirl is made into a VOD/streaming movie. They just go back to the standalone model.

Have you seen the box office for TSS though? Dude.

I’m sorry what was the box office for Zack Snyder’s Justice League?

ZSJL sold more DVDs and merch than TSS did. That's all we need to know.
The fact that a director's cut of an old movie that bombed sold more stuffs based on it than the newest movie from the studios' new golden boy.

We'll never know but had it released as originally intended my guess would be $800M+.

released on MAX in the same day

during Covid

5 years after the last one

that one, while it made bank, was terribly received and it's reputation only got worse with time

has a nearly identical title as the terribly received one

R-rated

watch my jewish movie, goy!

Never

So a bunch of street-shitters bought more t-shirts for the Snyder cut what the fuck does that matter?

>released on MAX in the same day

>during Covid

That not even street-shitters cared about buying merch from Gunn's movie.

Probably, with the majority being made in the first weekend and then breaking the record for biggest second weekend drop that was set by Batman v Superman. Which I believe broke the record that was held by Man of Steel?

I just want the "TDK trilogy, MOS, Joker, Constantine, Watchmen" DC back

i'm tired of this fake-Marvel DC. I'm fucking tired.

I am trans

Uh... good for you "sis".

You're retarded. Justice League, as the third movie, had reached the point of the story were the tone is less dark and the big picture begins to reveal itself.

superman vs the elite

The comic is called “What’s so funny about Truth, Justice, & The American Way?”

That story, but elangoated, would've finally made Superman mainstream and beloved the world over. Juxtaposing the schoolboy of DC with these cynical, murdering villains pretending to be heroes would've been glorious. Alas, Gunn is a retard.

i think supergirl will happen regardless of the box office receipts. its a cute blonde girl in a capeslop movie, will make bank regardless

Yeah, then the joker got molested in the second one dumbass

They panic and dump it on streaming. Best you're going to get. also

cute blonde girl

where? lol

So? Yes, it tanked but that does not impact how much better and viable the Elseworlds model is.

>cute blonde girl

where? lol

i said cute. not stunning/sexy/beautiful. she is cute though

Call me a retard (I am, albeit a smart retard) but the most striking issues with the new Superman movie are its terrible visual style and the looks of the lead actor. Bad humor, it rehashing so many old things as well as the overstuffed side cast all seem secondary to me.

They'll just put it on streaming and that's it.

That's still a release. And a far cry from shelving it for a tax write-off. But I doubt they'd even do this. They've spent too much on it. They'll be banking on a miracle. Putting it straight to max is admitting defeat after only one film. They would never do this.

WB/DC have another sure thing: Constantine II. The first one had huge numbers in its recent 4k release and has a big cult following plus Keanu's star is very hot after John Wick.

I didn't consider this it's true. But it's a fair distance away from filming. It was supposed to film this summer but we haven't heard an update on that in a while. If Superman bombs I'd be surprised to see them jumping to throw money on another comicbook risk

The lead actor is a probably. He just doesn't have the presence/charisma/aura/it to hold up not just this movie but the entire DCU like Superman is supposed to. He should be compared with RDJ as Iron Man but he comes across as a 2nd or even 3rd string hero from the MCU like Bucky or Shang-Chi.

They panic and dump it on streaming

I love coming to Anon Babble and reading people talk so confidently about things they have no actual idea about.

I honestly think if they play it cute Supergirl is very marketable. Just make it a movie about being a girl but keep out ideological feminist garbage. The monke actress they got to play her is quite cute, so good sign there.

AHHHHHHH SAVE ME DOGGY

Imagine pissing on him.

Yeah, I think it’ll be fine but the idea that a studio will just “dump a movie on streaming” is retarded. Even at the height of Covid when WB was putting movies on Max same day as theaters they were still putting them in theaters

but the idea that a studio will just “dump a movie on streaming” is retarded.

Sure. I'm NTA.

I'd like to think about the other scenario: if Superman is a hit a lot of terminally online losers might kill themselves over a movie

Supergirl actress

cute

Bruh
She looks inbred with her fetal alcohol syndrome face

I can fix

I'm an expert on female attractiveness. I say she is cute but also non-threatening enough not to alienate the girl audience.

Please, anyone knows if superman will have a 3D experience with imax? New Jurassic It seems that it won't even be imax, and I don't think there will be a 3D version either, right?

Such a weird date to put it though. Why doesn’t he just push it to August? Is James Gunn retarded.

AHHHHHHHH I'M SO DETERMINED

Kek

You guys should talk about what is going to happen if the film does well.

Gunn's sensibilities are not compatible with Superman's characterization

People still watch movies in 3d?

My dad really wants to see it

There's little chance it will be. But if it will? 5 years worth of 6/10 capeshit movies and tv shows.

I think it will do Man Of Steel numbers which is more than enough

It may not be as intense as the 3D of the 90s, but it's great to see that sense of depth on a huge IMAX screen. It feels empty to see something flat on a giant screen, even if it's 16k or more

Adjusted for inflation numbers or measly $670M?

If they burn Gunn, they can always go back to Snyder. He's already said he'd be more than happy to jump back in. WB might actually start making money again, lol.

This.

REEVES IS GETTING DIVORCED. THE CANCER RUMORS HAVE BEEN PROVEN FALSE

Lol. Where do you get these stills from?