How is he so creative? In the Indiana Jones transcripts, he mogs Spielberg's story ideas...

How is he so creative? In the Indiana Jones transcripts, he mogs Spielberg's story ideas. No one was doing anything like Star Wars before he came along. THX and American Graffiti were both groundbreaking. What's his secret?

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What made George special is that he was just a nerdy guy who wanted to create his own space/fantasy movie series.
You can make fun of his characters for having silly names like Droopy McCool but his talent for worldbuilding is the GOAT

He's not a retard and ripped off dune and whatever else

Probably because he's a pedophile

ripped off dune

He had a desert planet. That's it.
Dunefags are fucking retards and should shut the fuck up and go back to reading about Space Jews and slug emperors.

Dating black kweens

Seems like it's not something that you can teach, although Hitchcock was taught art design in school.

This, he's just an unsophisticated nerdy oldfag who had the skill and savvy to bring his obsessions to life.
Which to be fair, is a big reason why stuff is so much shittier now: there's a lack of sincerity, passion, or a human touch to anything anymore.

Watched ROTS the other day at the theater. That movie rocks. It mogs everything modern hard while simultaneously being 20 years ahead in tech terms.

He is both very talented and educated person. Probably have very high IQ as well.
Also despite bad writer meme shit, he is actually amazing at writing, because you cant make such a cultural icon full of memorable characters, iconic scenes and lines getting quoted for decades without being a good writer.
Also he directed AG, THX, ANH and RotS. This alone puts him into very good directors list at the very least. Very few directors have no failed works.
He isn't bad director.

Not that anon, but I'm pretty sure Vader being Luke's father is directly ripped from Vladimir Harkonnen being Paul's grandfather.
The Force is a substitute for The Voice.
All the mentions of spice are a nod to Dune as well.

I think its undeniable that Dune played influence on George creating Star Wars, but obviously that wasn't the only thing he was taking inspiration from.

Vader being Luke's father is directly ripped

It's a generic twist and has actual relevance to the plot and themes.

The Force is a substitute for The Voice

They are completely different things.

All the mentions of spice

One mention as something Han smuggled.

Going by this logic any late 20th century sci-fi in a desert setting is a Dune ripoff, i.e Mad Max and Nausicaa are Dune ripoffs.

You're catching on.

He’s a genius
His deeper cuts like Willow and Strange Magic are really slept on

This kek

always hear about how Lucas ripped off Dune

finally read the books

it's all superficial elements

You realize there was no shortage of sci-fi in desert settings before Dune that used similar tropes, right?
The only reason Boomers circlejerk Dune is because that's the first sci-fi they read that wasn't slop published in a pulp serial.

The only reason Boomers circlejerk Dune is because that's the first sci-fi they read that wasn't slop published in a pulp serial.

Dune actually was originally published as a pulp serial before the two separate parts (Dune World and The Prophet of Dune) were combined into a novelization.

Yeah I love Dune but Dunefags are fucking stupid. And anyway George Lucas was always super open about where he got his influences from - like pic is him talking about how John Carter of Mars influenced Star Wars in the press kit for the original movie released before it even came out. And if you read Lucas's earliest notes it's all him playing around with one of the Barsoom books only replacing all of Burroughs's made-up names with his own (like Jedi Bendu and Mace Windy.) Meanwhile he barely ever mentioned Dune. Oh, don't get me wrong it WAS an influence but it's pretty low on the list, there's way more obvious things Lucas was inspired by/ripped off than Dune. The whole notion's a bit fucking stupid.

Shit forgot picture - this is from the original press kit from 1976 featuring Lucas talking about how Flash Gordon and John Carter of Mars inspired Star Wars

But that was the ONLY reason

like Jedi Bendu

You mean like Prina Bindu from Dune?

Not really no. They do sound similar though I'll give you that. But they're completely different even in the early drafts.

From what I understand that insane car crash he had in high school where he almost died gave him one of those "come to Jesus - oh I need to rethink my entire life" moments and it caused him to go from a slacker who was mostly goofing off and racing cars to a really hard worker. It's why he was so successful despite being incredibly introverted and kinda shy - he put the work in.

Admittedly that doesn't explain why he was so imaginative to begin with but the fact that he was so assertive in those Raiders story conferences is probably down to that. That's all I'm saying.

There's a reality where he got the rights to Flash Gordon and made a franchise movie nobody remembers, but we live in reality where he had to make his own thing

being willing to take an idea and really focus on it can make it easier to come with new ideas that spin off from various considerations and connections with the original central one, that probably helped a lot.

Ahead of their time

True - also in the case of Star Wars (as in A New Hope) he legit spent about 2 years just writing and rewriting the script over and over again until it was just right (and then he continued to rewrite it even during filming cause, y'know, he's George Lucas.) The first script in particular (that's the rough/first draft) has tons of shit in it that ended up on the cutting room floor but then ended up turning up in the sequels and even prequels (mostly Phantom Menace - there's a shit-ton of the first script in Phantom Menace.)

i.e. the 3rd act of the rough draft has the characters crash landing on the 4th moon of Yavin populated by Wookies and they have to help them win a land battle against a bunch of Imperial tanks and that ended up turning into all that stuff on Endor with Ewoks in Return of the Jedi. But like Cloud City's in there, the emperor... there's even an early version of the Darth Vader-as-father character in there in the form of Kane Starkiller, Annikin Starkiller's tragic Jedi cyborg father who's "more machine than man." It's a really interesting read - he actually had most of the elements that would make up the entire saga really early on, albeit in embryonic form - he just reworked it over the year until it turned into what we know and love now but it was almost all there from REALLY early on.

Imagine if they didn't say no to his Flash Gordon film. Star Wars wouldn't exist.

He was just a bit shit at dialogue really and even then it's just a bit clunky/wooden not really incompetent or outright awful - everything else he was always pretty solid at.

Why is he so creative?

If by creative you mean reading a couple comics and stealing ideas from them he certainly is that.

The force is easily an evolution of dunes voice and presciencr

Oh come on those are just a few similar visuals. And even then it's very likely he'd never read Valerian - a French comic that wasn't widely distributed in America until much later.

The most iconic scene in all of Indiana Jones? Stolen straight from an old Uncle Scrooge comic. Lucas is a fat hack and only retards worship him.

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Not really. Lucas himself admitted the Force was mostly ripped off from Carlos Casteneda's life force from his Don Juan books (mostly Tales of Power which he read while writing A New Hope.) Only reason why he didn't mention it's influence that much is because Casteneda turned out to be a con man who then used those books to create his own little sex cult and after his death all his wives mysteriously disappeared with only one of their skeletal remains being found years later in the middle of the desert alongside their car

No one was doing anything like Star Wars before he came along

People were doing things EXACTLY like Star Wars, in different genres even.
Lucas' fortune was his assembly of incredible talent working below him on Star Wars.
It was definitely not the script or broad idea.

The problem with that theory is that the boulder was Spielberg's idea, not Lucas's

Lucas even wrote the foreword to one Uncle Scrooge book. He stole the entire idea of Indiana Jones from Scrooge comics and old movies from the 50s. There's nothing original about Indiana Jones.

No I know that - it's just the boulder wasn't his idea, it was Spielberg's. We literally have them both on tape when Speilberg came up with the idea.

Star Wars = has characters doing things

Dune = has characters doing things

I can go on but I think I have already destroyed George “the hack” Lucas enough for today