What do you think of Attack of the Clones?

soundtrack was amazing.

Phantom menace introduced Trade Fed invasion + Duel of the fates as strong contenders for best SW tracks, and this movie follows it up with the Arena soundtrack (later used as the default "republic" theme), and Across the stars, which are both amazing tracks.

theres genuinely no backing for such a position. Its an adventure movie with fun action, a compelling mystery and multiple domains of action.

It suffers a lot in technical aspects due to movies never really attempting that kind of stuff until then, but I like it a lot.

Revenge of the Sith review ends with Plinkett saying everyone will forget the Prequels because they didn't connect with people

the Prequels are now more loved and celebrated than ever

Stoklasa was literally wrong about everything.

dislikes the prequels

likes the force awakens

Why would I listen to a guy who openly admits he wants to see the same shit repackaged to tickle his nostalgia g-spot?

Dooku hires Jango who hires Zam who uses a droid that sends bugs to kill Padme who is only having assassination attempts as a favor to Nute Gunray who wants Padme dead despite being the one person actively against a Republic Army being created which would be a huge problem for Nute and all of his Secessionist buddies.

Kamino is still building a Clone Army after literally 10 years without contact from the person that ordered it. This person is a Jedi who somehow managed to acquire the money for an army and mysteriously dies right after ordering them.

The Jedi who are actively against a army being built and the outset of war don't inform anyone of the Clone Army and for some reason decide to command it despite the Jedi being against the concept of slavery even though it's an army of slave despite the Army being mysteriously commissioned by a Jedi Master they knew died despite the clones being based on the genetic material of a Bounty Hunter who is hired by Seperatist forces to Assassinate Padme

Padme leaves Coruscant mere days before the vote on the army creation because of an Assassination attempt despite having survived one literally when she arrived. Then leaves fucking Jar Jar Binks to vote on her behalf who is so fucking stupid he thinks Padme would be entirely fine with giving Palpatine the authority to build an army.

Padme still loves Anakin despite him literally slaughtering women and children when she has shown no signs of thinking death is ever an adequate punishment even for the Trade Federation slime balls that invaded her planet... wait how did those fuckers get out of prison for invading a fucking planet?

Who wrote this retarded shit?

He wants to see competent directing and real sets and props.
TFA had all that.

Shit thread with mostly fake replies
Obviously worst prequel, stuffed to bursting with illogical decisions and events, multiple scenes with no reason for existing
I will not elaborate further since it's been explained to death and can easily be found if searched for

I want to like it but as soon as anakin leaves and the film keeps cutting to his and padmes scenes it becomes a huge slog that is only relieved in the last 15 minutes with the war on geonosis finally breaking out. It's the rotj of the prequels, it has the highest of highs and the lowest of lows and is not actually enjoyable as a complete film

TFA had all that.

Is that you JJ?

I will not elaborate further

lmao what a pussy.
you have zero proof. you have no argument whatsoever.

the movie is actually good. get fucked N

watch the RLM reviews

Why does he need to elaborate when someone already did here Funny how you won't reply to that comment. Almost like you can't actually defend the worst Star Wars Film.

itt watch millenial slop reviewers

is this the best prequel haters can come up with? watching some basedtuber?

competent directing

Abrams is a trash director. He has no understanding of space, scale, and geography.

real sets and props

The Prequels had this too. In terms of pure CGI, TFA had comparable numbers of VFX shots to the Prequels.

RotS and AotC: 2200 VFX shots each

TFA: 2100

TPM: 1900

Third worst Star Wars film.
Better than TFA and TRoS. Last Jedi is technically a worse film, but I would rather watch it 10 times over than watch AotC.
I can understand why people can like Phantom Menace, same with Revenge (even though they're both garbage). This movie is completely unlikable, thoughbiet. Anyone who likes it is genuinely fucking retarded and that is the honest truth.

Palpatine wanted to make a Clone Army

Needed Padme out of the way to do it

Sends an assassin after her so she either dies or is scared into hiding, either way he wins

Assassins identity is obscured behind several middlemen to make it harder to trace (bounty hunter hires a bounty hunter who hires a droid who hires some bugs etc)

Secretly commissioned a Clone Army through Dooku long before, erased the planet from the Jedi archives (presumably Dooku also did that as he left the Order) so it would be undiscovered

Obi Wan has one lead, the Kaminoan dart but can't trace it anywhere

Sheev's plan worked perfectly

The one thing Sheev didn't count on was Obi Wan had an autistic friend in a 50s diner who could identify the dart

Leads Obi Wan to discover the Clones, and that they're based on the assassin he's hunting for. The assassin also has ties to Dooku, the leader of the faction that the clones are meant to be fighting (note Obi Wan is NOT aware that Dooku is Tyrannus, the audience only finds out at the end of the movie which is meant to clue us in on the conspiracy)

Obi Wan is on the cusp of discovering the whole conspiracy on Geonosis when he's captured, and his hubris/loyalty to the Order prevents him from listening to a 'traitor' when Dooku attempts to reason with him

Ironically Obi Wan's capture and execution ends up being the pretense needed to bring out the Clones and begin the war

Ending of the movie is the Jedi discussing how strange the situation with the Clones is, but now they're at war and they can't just turn down the army of infinite disposable soldiers

Palpatine looks over his new grand army and smiles as the Imperial March plays in the background

There, there's the entire plot of the movie for people who are too fucking stupid to follow basic storylines

I can understand why people can like Phantom Menace,

Easily. AMong prequels it's the best mix of CGI and Natural sets.

Definitely. A quite enjoyed the more martial arts inspired fight choreography as well. It's the only lightsaber fight, in the prequels, that I didn't hate.

convoluted as fuck

are you 3 years old?

pretty simple to understand unless you have somalian IQ

and pulled it off perfectly

You're a reddit spacing retard, I simply do not agree with you. Maybe if you could list one (eins) example of this type of film I could begin to understand the connection. Lucas also based Jar Jat off of Buster Keaton apparently, and look how that went. The poor execution isn't excused just because he dryly lists inspirations in bonus content

Assassins identity is obscured behind several middlemen

That just creates more variables outside your control and makes it more likely someone will sell you out. Zam was about to do this if not for Jango killing her and that only identifies him because he was there watching the entire thing when he could have assassinated Padme while the Jedi were chasing Zam.

Secretly commissioned a Clone Army through Dooku long before

That is never actually explained. Sifo Dias and his origins are never actually explained in the film and it is never even implied that Dooku was the one impersonating Sifo Dias

Obi Wan had an autistic friend in a 50s diner who could identify the dart

So were defending contrivances of the highest order? Also why would Jango use a Kamino dart that could lead back to him when he could have just shot same with a laser?

Ending of the movie is the Jedi discussing how strange the situation with the Clones is, but now they're at war and they can't just turn down the army of infinite disposable soldiers

I'm sorry what? The Jedi are now all of a sudden cool with commanding troops of literal slaves now? Based on thr Genetic material of a guy who tried to assassinate a senator and was working for Dooku who they know was leading the seperatists. I don't care how "desperate" the Jedi are they wouldn't command this army especially since they were self described as peace keepers not soldiers. If anything the clone army gives them more reason to not command any armed forces since the republic is not defenseless anymore.

It's funny how the guy claiming to understand this plot doesn't see the issues with it.

yes
3 year olds are the target audience for these movies

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Explain to me the difference between these two

Obi Wan had an autistic friend in a 50s diner who could identify the dart

So were defending contrivances of the highest order?

That's not a contrivance at all you imbecile, its an old detective story trope which is what the entire Obi Wan investigation subplot was based on.
Sherlock Holmes would often find that official sources, police and academics would fail but he would talk to street urchins and homeless people who would have much better information.

The top one is just the bottom one rewritten for a third grade reading level

Because duel of fate wasn't relying on nostalgia bait like Anakin vs Obi-Wan in RoS

So you acknowledge that is IS stylized dialogue inspired by courtly love tropes?
Then why did you say it wasn't?

So when did Sherlock Holmes ask a sloppy fat fry cook about the origins of fancy weapon technology?

I don't acknowledge that, as we obviously have different definitions of stylization. If it was stylized in the way you seem to be implying it would've looked and sounded like the bottom example but with different content. In the case of the movie it took those inspirations and then made them shit.

its shit because I said so

Having a random friend that we are never told about before hand is a contrivance. Maybe if George introduced Dex beforehand it wouldn't have been but it absolutely is a fucking contrivance

Your inability to know what the word contrivance means isn't the fault of me or George Lucas

How about you kys instead

That is never actually explained. Sifo Dias and his origins are never actually explained in the film and it is never even implied that Dooku was the one impersonating Sifo Dias

exactly... these prequel fanbois try to explain the plot in simple terms but the fact is the movie is very hard to follow because of things like that, I remember watching the first time and not really caring about anything

Contrivance

a device, especially in literary or artistic composition, which gives a sense of artificiality

i.e. some dude you happen to know who just so happens to know about the origin of a weapon no other archives or resources do.

no other archives or resources do.

I've already explained to you the origin of this trope and what it's referencing when Lucas does it
What exactly are you confused about?

Maybe it'd be less of a contrivance if Dex worked at an Armory or gun store. You know a profession where he'd be inclined to know about random assassination tools? Go to you nearest diner and ask the cook if he knows what caliber a Wather PPK is typically chambered in and see if you get any right answers.

Nigger just because it's a "trope" doesn't make it any less inclined. Also when that trope gets used, usually the person being asked is introduced earlier in the film and his knowledge is made apparent to the audience beforehand so when the PI goes to see him for information it doesn't come out of no where

No retard the entire point is that he DOESN'T work in those places.

obi wan

a cop

strange that he knows so many ex cons

he's probably the guy that captured dex in the first place

The overall scenario would still be contrived since there's no reason for Jango to use a traceable dart when he has all kinds of other weapons, but it would at least be slightly more logical

Why does nobody ever talk about how lame the final duel is in this movie when criticizing it? It's by far the worst final duel in the prequels and OT

Obi-Wan and Anakin get taken out by Dooku (going ok so far)

Yoda walks in and it turns into a far service clown show where a CGI gremlin flips around and screams wildly at an old man

If there was an awesome lightsaber battle at the end of it I don't believe people would be so hard on the convoluted plot in the middle.

>Yoda walks in and it turns into a far service clown show where a CGI gremlin flips around and screams wildly at an old man

Which is, BTW, the most awesome shit I've ever seen in my life.

It's goofy and fun, worth a watch if you aren't paying too much attention. Flashy battles and quick action. Watching Anakin kill stuff is always fun and Hershlag is sexy
The more you pay attention to it, the worse it gets. The plot is incomprehensible. Green-screening EVERYTHING was not necessary and it annoys me. The quips don't work too well.
Still plenty redeemable about it, though, as long as you aren't a snob

Anakin vs dooku for 1 minute was pure kino. I used to hate yoda jumping around but I got over it

Jedis are cops

What retarded head canon is this?

The point is that it's a contrivance

Yes I know, you've been trying to defend bad writing this entire thread

The Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the old Republic.

We're keepers of the peace, not soldiers.

It's cute you think cops are peacekeepers

Aging like fine wine. The core complaint was the CGI and as it turns out the entire industry decided to go all in on CGI, and CGI has hardly improved since then, so it magically holds up. Otherwise, it's strong in world building, pacing, music, thematics, very entertaining movie.

I think you're a stupid fucking mental case and I'm tired of your threads

A masterpiece. It beats out ESB and ROTJ. You just had to be there for all of them.

Starshit

Into the trash it goes.

epic cinema. plus, christopher lee as a sith lord dueling yoda

The final act in Geonosis is kino, the cat and mouse games between Obi-Wan and Jango Fett are kino, Padme cleavage if kino, everything else sucks

My favorite of the prequels, also really like the novelization by RA Salvatore

the jedi are warrior monks, not cops or soldiers

They are used by the Republic as cops during peace time, as soldiers in war time

they are used as diplomats and enforcers of justice, not as cops

enforcers of justice

not as cops

are you retarded?

A lot of these silly discussions stem from that one line by Mace Windu: "we're keepers of the peace, not soldiers"
why even have that line at all?? Just say you're warriors or something, that's what you really are

that line is incorrect because I say it is!

They settle disputes, enforce republic laws, and protect VIPs. They are a law enforcement agency. They haven't been to war in a thousand fucking years, so how are they "warrior monks" at the time of the prequels?

why even have that line at all?? Just say you're warriors or something, that's what you really are

dude, do you even pay attention to the plot of the movie? due to the separatist crisis, the jedi have their hands full trying to keep the peace, and there are only a few thousand of them in existence. that's why the senate is debating the creation of a republic army, to help the jedi keep the peace. just because the jedi are warriors doesn't mean they are soldiers or be expected to act as an army for the republic. they are peace keepers. they settle disputes. that's their job.

obi wan acts like a cop

has cop contacts

"jedi business, go back to your drinks"

the only thing that's missing is a badge. They already have the gun.
as anon says. They aren't war like at all. The jedi are focused on a balanced approach and do not prosecute crimes like slavery, since that goes beyond their mandate.

Someone being assassinated by terrorists is their jam, as is arresting fugitives and so on.

Hershlag is hot

bad writing because I said so

They haven't been to war in a thousand fucking years, so how are they "warrior monks" at the time of the prequels?

there hasn't been a "full scale war" in a thousand years. that doesn't mean there haven't been wars. and you don't need to be in a war to be a great warrior. we even see how great warriors they are before the clone wars begin