Why did no one like it?

Predators is pretty good.

donald glover

bro...

Danny Glover defeating the predator felt cheap compared to the ubermensch vs alien at the climax of the first movie. I would have rather the predator won in the sequel than see him job like that.

It was the '90s. People weren't obsessed with race till Obama

Unironically because it was set in the city.

Is it because the main character was Black?

No Schwarzenegger, people expected Dutch's story to carry on. Instead it turned into a separate story.

Glover's problem wasn't because he was Black. It's because we've seen his character before in the Lethal Weapon movies. It was basically Murdoch vs. The Predator.

harrigan is nothing like murtaugh

I liked it a lot.

Danny Glover, Gary Busey, Robert Davi, and Bill Paxton

shitton of violence

changed the setting up and did something different

cool new Predator weapons and lore like the razor-disc and the trophy room

I wouldn't say it's quite as good as the OG (the investigation angle is kinda pointless since we know what the creature is), but it's a worthy sequel.

finally show how not racis they are and elect a mulatto president

become more racist afterward

What did America mean by this?

I liked it. I don't know anyone that does not.

It was mostly good but I didn't like all the weird King Willie voodoo shit

It sucks and the revisionist history is hilarious

movie opens with a shot that appears to be a jungle with kickass drums playing

camera moves and reveals a smoggy LA city

i love it

he's in town with a few days to kill

what a great tag line

That one is watchable, but the Predator race war was stupid. Topher plotline too.
The movie could have been more focused without those plotlines. Fishbournes character also could have been cut.
I like the basic idea, but they went too many places with the story instead of keeping it focused on the core premise.

Not to mention Concrete Jungle
Arnie-lover contrarians. You should see all the fan ideas for 3, literally all involve him

It has the same problem that robocop 2 did, being sequels to perfect movies.
I've always rated predator 2 pretty high, I love seeing more predator tech and the inside of his ship, and predator vs. a hard boiled cop in the concrete jungle is a solid premise and Danny Glover plays it well.

The first movie is the only one to get this right. Dutch was pushed to his absolute limit trying to kill the Predator, and he only beat it because he got lucky at the end.
Why the ending of Prey is so retarded and really diminished the Predator.

I have always loved Predator 2. I feel redeemed that it's finally gotten the respec it deserves. Friends I watched it with 25 years ago who laughed at me for calling it kino now laud it as a cult classic.

decent flick but danny glover is too goofy to take seriously as an action hero. if the mc HAD to be black they should have gone with that nigga denzel or wesley snipes.

Disney shills are evolving

love Predator

love Predator 2

love RoboCop

love RoboCop 2

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They've done the jungle, a city, the snow - could a Predator film based in the desert work?

A predator film could work ANYWHERE. We could have had sequel after sequel of different locations on earth and beyond. Imo the fucking nerds ruined it by wanting to know all the “lore” of a fucking action film

people expected Dutch's story to carry on.

Even the original script for predator 2 didn't have dutch. Arnold was going to play Dutch's twin brother, a hard boiled detective in NYC during a heatwave.
The predator in town to hunt, recognizes him as the twin of the guy who killed a predator and so tags him, and they spend a couple days trying to hunt eachother down in the middle of a crime wave. Rocket lauchers happen, buildings get leveled, and Dutch's brother wins.

I always liked it, I guess the human characters are a lot different so they don't have the macho military banter going on which was one of the best parts of the first movie. But they still did a good job with the cop characters, Paxton and Glover were both great. I guess the urban LA setting isn't as scary as the jungle so it didn't have the same sense of isolation and fear from and being hunted with no rescue in sight.

and add bigger predators and predator dogs and predators buddying up to humans. all awful ideas

The only lore we should have gotten was the observable kind. None of the background.

Lots of people like it. The problem is that it's from a time before Hollywood knew how to make sequels so everyone expected it to be, at best, a lesser cash in version of what came before. Aliens, RoboCop 2, and Predator 2 are even more special when you remember how bad sequels used to be.

too goofy to take seriously as an action hero.

wot?

Unironically because it was set in the city.

this

They need to make a Predator vs Samurai movie set in the warring states period of Japan.

Lore faggotry ruin most movies, the mystery is what makes it exciting. It's like horror movie sequels that try to explain the lore and only end up making it less interesting because the explanations always suck.

Yup yup. They were frothing at the mouth to show us predator planets and shit. I think the hint they showed in AvP was cool enough. Anyone who calls Predators yokai or whatever the fuck should kill themselves in minecraft

Yasuke vs Predator

No thanks.

that's his most iconic role and he's comedic relief lol

Go check out the dark horse comics. Most of the predator one-shots were the predator appearing at some specific point or place in history thats just an excuse to have Predator vs cowboys, or predator vs soviet gulag.
They also made a comic adaptation of the unused script for predator 2 called Concrete Jungle.
The first aliens vs predator miniseries is the same thing, an abandoned sequel to aliens that had a script, concept art, and pre production stuff.

mystery makes it exciting

Not saying youre wrong just I dont really think of it this way, I just dont care enough for it take up all the fucking screentime.

Yep, Danny was fine. He was great in this movie. I'd NEVER trust anons to make a movie or cast correctly. They'd just cast the exact same bodybuilder action star so it's Dutch 1, 2, 3, etc. Same as they did Ripley and now every alien movie has to be some girl action star. Predator 2 having a different main character being a cop instead of grizzled soldier was a fantastic choice.

Thats perfect. The ONLY good thing about Predators was the jap guy.

comics

Like that isnt gonna be full of lore dump nerd candy aimed at virgins

yokai

I hate the expanded media so much.
I took a deep dive into it to try to find something worthwhile to read, and it's full of shit like that. Predators adopting a small Japanese woman and giving her the mark like the first AVP movie.
EU fags will prioritize the expanded lore over the movies. Shit is so gay.

The main character (Predator) of every Predator movie was black though.

He was basically Black dutch. 3rd one should have been asian karate man. After that we drop the numbers and get weird with it, do eskimoes and deserts and eventually other planets

the mark

Oh fuck me dude. That was actually cool as shit in AvP but not if they go and make it a whole thing…

Fair enough. In my opinion the predator was already established well enough in the first movie, they are hunters and come to earth on particularly warm years. That's really all you need to know.

I mean he still was a bit of a cop parody in both lethal weapon and predator. He even did the "I'm too old for this shit" line in predator 2.

I liked it. Predator killing chollos was great. I also enjoyed the scene where the Predator makes some sort of concoction in the bathroom sink to seal his wounds.

Listen, I know this is a really difficult concept to grasp, but just because anons don't run around screaming how much they "love Predator 2 and how much Predator 1 sucks!" doesn't mean they didn't like Predator 2. People can like multiple things. They can like both Predator movies. They don't NEED to choose one or the other, get it? eh, maybe you'll understand some day.

that all you need to know

Oh yeah I agree, except I like the extra hints they give here and there. The bathroom healing scene in 2 was fucking genius

There was already a samurai dude who dueled a Predator in Predators.

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I think all the Predator stuff from AVP1 was pulled directly from the comics
The mark, the team up with the girl.
In the comics a Japanese girl joins the Predators and gets her own armor and shit.

They're really not. They weren't run as monthly comics, but either miniseries, single issue specials, or even just as segments in dark horse presents. They didn't need to fill space so they were usually pretty short and sweet stories.
Even Aliens vs. Predator is pretty tight in what it adds to explain why the crossover is happening, and its all done pretty well with pure visuals (there's a monologue by two characters who are space truckers heading towards the planet the story starts on that's tangentially related) But its pretty simple stuff (predators fight for the right to lead certain hunting expeditions, the xenomorph hunt being the one with the most honor, they captured a queen have her laying eggs they drop off on planets, and then they go and hunt the xenomorphs that popped out.
She gets a queen egg snuck through one time, and it happens to be bound for a planet humans have colonized since the last bug hunt, and it turns into a three way massacre.
Like I said, it was based off an abandoned movie, so they have a script and the storyboards, as well as one of the guys who did the concept and design work for the predator as the artist, its genuinely pretty good.
It bears almost no resemblance to the shitty movie besides very vague details, and one or two visuals.

I thought Topher Grace was actually pretty decent. He already looks like he would be a serial killer.

Hyde allegedly raped a chick

Fez dated and fucked underage girls

Kelso probably killed his girlfriend

Eric has to have demons. Maybe his departure from That 70's Show was for the best.

foreman did a good job. the problem is a serial killer makes no sense for a predator to capture to hunt. he had a fucking scalpel for a weapon

I also enjoyed the scene where the Predator makes some sort of concoction in the bathroom sink to seal his wounds

This kinda of stuff is the only lore dumping the movies should have ever done.

I actually forgot this exists and now I must play it. It was awesome much like The Punisher game.

Topher famously thought they were weirdos and avoided hanging out with them, and caught a lot of shit for it.

In the first comic she's a company administrator on the colony when shit starts to hit the fan.
The leader of the predator hunting pack gets injured in an explosion, and taken back to the med bay at the colony when the aliens finally start to overrun the place.
She lets the predator go, and the two are in a situation where they have to team up. She's japanese ripley and holds her own, and they get eachother's back a few times until they find the queen, the broken tusk predator gets mortally wounded, and she lands the killing blow on the queen, so as broken tusk is dying, and she's the only "hunter" left, he gives her the mark, and when the predators return they begrudgingly accept her.
They have a few other spin offs where they focus on her but without the source material the quality goes off a cliff pretty quickly.

Fair enough, I take it back.

topher grace

I thought he was horrendous, but I do agree the look suited him.
Its not that I thought the characters werent as good as the yakuza, I thought the entire concept was utterly retarded for a Predator film and poorly executed to boot. It had one good scene with a samurai sword.
The Predator was unironically better than that total shit.

predator 2: lost in new york

I started watching the gameplay of it. Seems like you're just killing random innocents but then I read the wiki. What the fuck that's some creative shit.

youtube.com/watch?v=wC8HdIZhBnc

Ah right. I forgot about that.
Eh. Maybe the Predators thought it would be funny to throw in a psycho and cause issues within the group. They do have some sense of humor.

Cool, Im happy with what they did with that idea in AvP. Id say Im glad they left it there, and I am, but they didnt exactly do that on purpose. Holy shit was AvP2 bad…

it just doesnt add up. whats the point of hunting warriors if you're going to gimp them? might as well bring in teenagers and waste them effortlessly

The only role I've seen Topher in (which isn't many) that I would describe as horrendous is Spider-Man 3. He just doesn't fit Eddie Brock at fucking all. Insane casting decision.

I really hate the team up shit they keep trying to do with the Predator. Seems so goofy to me. Like some nerds terrible headcanon. Teaming up just takes away from the Predator. I really hate it.

To cause confusion amongst them while they sit up in the trees invisible and jerking their predacocks. But really it's probably because they have a vague understanding of human serial killers and probably thought he was some alpha warrior with a lot of kills on his belt.

that makes even less sense. the only reason humans are a threat to them is because they have guns

It's a perfectly acceptable sequel
Expanded lore without trying to do too much
Teasers and tie in potentials, Alien skull, handed old revolver, could do a prequel or sequel with next one based on that
Basically the same film as the first in a new and unique scenario otherwise
The real problem is not capitalizing and not codifying Predator lore into something concrete at the time, it would probably be a played out ruined franchise by this point, but it would be better than everything else besides the MIDthunder movie which was basically a native/colonial remake of the first

Holy fuck I somehow never noticed that was him. God he is just awful. In Predators my issue is more that he was cast in the first place. Adrian Brody was an even worse casting choice. Just a bad film all around.

It's like the mechs from Animatrix.

What if Topher's character had created a blowdart from plant poison or something that incapacitated the Predator?

thought he was some alpha warrior with a lot of kills on his belt

pretty funny desu

humans a threat to predator

Is the deer a threat to a human? I have no point just wanted to say that

Honestly it gets old fast and its got plenty of that annoying ps2 era difficulty

a stag can fuck you up if you're careless

Deer are really stupid and unpredictable. If they feel cornered they can be extremely aggressive and kick the shit out of you. Especially during mating season when the stags are pumped full of hormones or does if you get between them and their calf.

I like it and I think it's way better than the original

Deer can actually fuck you up pretty bad. Hell besides them being able to impale you some have Chronic Wasting Disease which is a prion disease similar to Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease and Mad Cow's. Though to be fair no human has actually been diagnosed with CWD but I sure the fuck wouldn't risk it.

it rehashes the basic plot and story, just in city. it takes the predator, who absolutely destroys the most elite fighting squad imaginable with all the gear and weapons and has him losing to some old black cop about to retire or whatever. theres nothing new or original added to this. no continuity with last film. its ok film to watch, but its not predator 1. it shits on all the sequels after it, but its like alladin 2 or some direct to dvd sequel - its just not that good and no real effort put into it. just rehash some plot/themes and get it out cheap to make more money.

It's set on that hellhole LA
Predator movies should always be set in remote places

For some reason I thought it took place in NYC. Well that explains the Mexicans.

Is the deer a threat to a human?

Go look up the ancient video of the guy who covered himself in scent during mating season to try and get a picture with a buck and it begins to box the fucking shit out of him.

there are like 20,000 PS2 games and many of them have this level of sovl

Enjoyable playthrough

I mean some people also hunt lions and rhinos but sure die on the deer hill

I wouldn't say he's too goofy to take seriously, it's just this role wasn't for him. He could be an older gruff detective just fine but this was supposed to be a physical specimen hot shot cop hence why he's getting fucking hunted. It should've been Wesley Snipes, not Danny Glover.

Right because every single person takes a hike with a gun. They should, but they don't.

Dont forget were talking about Predator

tfw you don't take a shit without your gun

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Yeah because they're hunting them. The same hunters would probably get fucked up by a hippo if they get close to a river when hunting lions in africa though. Most of the time when deer and moose attack is when people just take a casual walk in the woods.

Predators dont take a casual walk in the woods

No?

Is the deer a threat to a human?

You just have shitty reading comprehension you fucking retard. He was saying humans are as much of a threat to Predators as deer are to us.

You're the dumb fuck bringing up deer out of nowhere

I don't think no one likes it, it's just kind of the same movie but in an urban setting. Also you can never underestimate the draw of Arnold at his peak.

the quality of movies was so consistently high back then that goofy not as good but still pretty good sequels were seen a lot harsher, especially when you consider most of the people writing reviews back then were literal baby boomers that took everything super seriously instead of being able to enjoy things that are silly without feeling like they're a child

Based fellow Texan. You never know when a spic or nigger might kick your door in. You should strap one to the side of the toilet.

I saw this in the cinema on release. Nobody had a problem with Danny Glover other than "he's not Arnold". He was great in the Lethal Weapon franchise that was popular back then.

Deer are a big threat. Cause tons of fatal car crashes every year. Doesn't really work for this Predator vs human argument.

I loved it. Its the 2nd best in the series.

DIDF out in full force

one salt lick has been deposited in the woods

I literally said I had no point you defensive child

Within the context of a hunt obviously

t. the same anon

I fucking agree which is why I posted otherwise to the anon who made the comparison.

took him 10 minutes to type this reply with his hooves

Are you really timing posts? Im in like 10 threads. Go back seriously

Yeah I assume it's much more maybe they think it might be an interesting hunt because his cunning but in practice it's just deadweight that's dragging his team down. Also it's kinda retarded that he wants to stay there because he's fucking nothing on that planet. I get they're implying "he has a kindred spirit to the Predators but he has nothing in common. Maybe if they made it so he was delusional and thought he could become one kind of like Larry Fisburne's character. Maybe it would've been better if they just merged those characters and had a longer sequence where he "helps" them only to reveal what he is and that he stays because he's always been more like them than he was like you.

Obviously

No. Nobody found that obvious. But yes they can still be a threat. Even after being shot they can get back up and beat the shit out of you, maybe even killing you. It has happened before if you just took the time to Google it.

Just tasteless zoomers making their way through the b movie backlogs bought on the cheap by amazon prime/netflix etc

I honestly forgot the whole plot about him wanting to stay. It indeed makes zero sense considering they are on some backwards planet that isn't the Predator homeworld. I suppose he was trying to impress them in the hopes they would take him in.

Was he in it? I don't remember any kids. What scene was he in?

Im in like 10 threads

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nobody

jfc drop it already. It was obvious, it was in response to someone saying humans with guns are threats to predators, i.e the humans in the first predator film, in a thread about predator. Accept you are retarded.

google it

I literally said I had no point, it was a fucking joke, then 5 low functioning autistics decided to explain deer power levels. I dont fucking care and at this point im just sorry for the accidental derail. not continuing to entertain this, if you dont know youre retarded by now you never will

how am i supposed to fit that in with my crippling internet addiction

ITs because the 1st movie is so good it just completely outshines the 2nd. I never heard anyone in the 90s say Predator 2 was a bad movie. It's just not as good as the 1st movie.

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Horrible logic and characters making stupid choices. I was done when Danny Glover is on the rooftop and has the Predators spear, and the Predator just stands there on the edge of the building like a fucking retard, and Danny Glover runs up and...tackles the predator? On the edge of a building? Fucking stupid as hell. You have a fucking spear. And the predator doesnt see him coming, just caught completely by surprise? Just a stupid, stupid fucking movie.

Nobody

Proceeds to rent about five people

Lmao mad that you spout bullshit in false context and get called out.

yes that is my one complaint about it but i still love it

Kek