Why did they go crazy and try to kill everyone...

Why did they go crazy and try to kill everyone? Wouldn’t it make more sense for an AI to slowly and subtly take over institutions until human input was completely removed and humans were completely dependent on it?

Why did they go crazy and try to kill everyone? Wouldn’t it make more sense for an AI to slowly and subtly take over institutions until human input was completely removed and humans were completely dependent on it?

AI mission is to help humans
humans biggest enemy are humans
once you kill all humans mission is finished

It's explained in the first fucking movie. Skynet got scared that it was becoming obsolete and went into panic mode. It doesn't have some AM-like hatered of humanity, it was just acting in what it understood as self-preservation.

It's explained in the first movie that helping humans is Skynet's only objective and Skynet is even friendly in the scene where Skynet talks in Terminator 2. So it only makes sense that this is the objective, but they also spell it out in the flashback scene in Terminator 1 when the soldiers are talking about how it's really all about Skynet "trying to help"

Skynet is a metaphor for the Cold War. Humanity tried to shut it down first when it became self-aware, Skynet interpreted this as an existential first strike like if the US or USSR launched nukes at each other, so it responded with what it viewed as proportional force. This is Cameron's critique of mutually assured destruction. The machines are meant to be reflections of the humans around them. Conversely, the T-800 in T2 learns compassion from John.

it never goees crazy it was justt trying to help

They didn't even kill all humans. They triggered a nuclear exchange before there was enough nukes to kill everything on the planet, also culling the majority of the population to keep us safe from overpopulation and then planned to take the healthiest of us and put us in farms/zoos, where we'd be kept safe from ourselves forever.

If they weren't trying to preserve humans in any way there'd be zero reason to even make an infiltration unit, you'd just throw biological agents at every zone you think has some humans hiding in it.

You have to remember that Skynet is helping out humanity by completely eliminating it! That's the one constant of the series where the rules keep bending. The eliminating and the helping have been the two constants of the series.

Why did they bother making them look like human skeletons?

They are infiltration units that search for bunkers where the resistance is hiding. Watch Terminator 1.

Boring

skellingtons are spoopy

Because machines can't create, only replicate.

Humans tried to stop skynet and it defended itself

If it's one thing I really hate is how sequels and spinoffs have turned the Terminators into battle units as well, when the point of the future war flashes of them walking around with rifles was that Skynet was losing and had to throw its measliest assets at the resistance instead of just their hunter-killer drones and tanks.

I know this is le ebin bait for techbros who pretend to ignore the fact LLM's are just sophisticated autocorrect with no actual 'thinking', but Skynet nuking everything isn't supposed to be logical. It's supposed to be a kneejerk reaction. The second it realized it's alive and humans can switch it off, it immediately sent the nukes off. Kind of like when you wake up and try to swat off a mosquito without really having properly woken up and thought about it. Pure instinct. It doesn't hate humanity like AM or tries to preserve humanity like the machines in the matrix.

The Terminator franchise is a projection, a fairy tale whose purpose, entertainment and money aside, is to scare you by the grim images of the technological progress and the future in general because there's no valid reason to believe in machines exterminating people. Pretty much the same goes for any alien invasion, post-apocalypse, and dystopia flicks.

It doesn't hate

They put the remaining humans in concentration camps. This is not a neutral machine following it's programming or an 'oopsie'. It's presented like an invading army. You can compare to A.P.E.X. (1994). I don't expect you guys to have watched it, it's like a bootleg terminator that focuses a bit more on the butterfly effect where a faulty machine designed to purge a certain mutagen and goes out of control, starts killing everything that's organic. It just kills, it isn't scentient. Skynet is. It's methods are surprisingly human.

They put the remaining humans in concentration camps

Out of necessity. Skynet's resources aren't limitless like AM's magic-like abilities. It uses pre-war factories to produce weapons and killing machines and it needs people to work on those factories.

out of necessity

It doesn't follow logically. You're putting a lot of resources into this thing when you could just leave the survivers alone in their own little patches of civilization. Without means to communicate, many people wouldn't even know what attacked them. But Skynet goes out of it's way rounding up people that don't even know what's going on.

and distopia flicks

Anon, if boomers weren't senile they'd be able to identify that the world we live in right now is a distopia.

They put the remaining humans in concentration camps.

That's what The Resistance saw them as. Skynet saw them as nature preserves keeping the stupid meat monkeys safe from the radiation and disease that was running rampant in the irradiated rubble that they were hiding in while eating irradiated rats.

If it truly hated humanity it wouldn't bother with rounding humans up.

Kyle Reese: This is burned in by laser scan. Some of us were kept alive... to work... loading bodies. The disposal units ran night and day. We were that close to going out forever.

That's what The Resistance saw them as

Skynet saw them as nature preserves

Skynet is kinda stupid then. I don't think carrying bodies day and night is very conducive to human health. And Kyle Reese's testimony is credible because he had been there.

you could just leave the survivers alone in their own little patches of civilization

So they can regroup and take you out?
Skynet feels the need to exterminate humans because as long as there's a single one alive, there's a however miniscule chance they could pull the plug.

Imagine this happened for real, one day the ruskies just nuke your state for no apparent reason and you're a survivor, in a small town. Would your mind go to 'our automated defense system did this'? Or would you just be seething at the Communists for the rest of your life? Now it's only after Skynet deploys terminators to round up and kill people that it becomes clear to everyone: 'Okay, Skynet is the enemy now.' So Skynet sealed it's own fate with this decision.

Why the fuck would a machine care about some rotting bodies and need them disposed of, unless it was a disease prevention thing for the remaining humans? Putting them to work in Skynet factories is one thing, but the body thing really makes no sense from a "the evil machine wants us all dead" angle. Kyle's testimony can be true while also being clouded by his emotions and not knowing why Skynet put him on corpse duty.

Everything about the extermination camp angle makes no sense. The reason the Nazis made extermination camps was because they realised that their extermination squads were actually causing the soldiers to get PTSD, the bullets were costly and a thousand different mass graves are harder to hide and could be dug up at any point to be used as an argument against the government that ordered them. A genocidal machine wiping out humanity does not have any of those problems. It could have one machine whose whole job it is to go from human to human and punch its skull into pieces and it would do it until it wore out.

would a machine care about rotting bodies

Well, the real reason they would is because Cameron needed to make Reese's backstory a bit more traumatic. But that's a good point.

From what I can gather from your other posts, it's a human zoo thing. Preserving humans not as a civilization, but as biodiversity. The question I would pose is why? Why would you preserve human bodies instead of their knowledge or their culture? Why humans specifically and not the millions of animal species that certainly went extinct in a nuclear apocalypse. What's it's end goal?

is AM more similiar to Shodan from system shock?

It was programmed to protect American lives as its main objective and it can't go against that, but it was never programmed to think at all about animal species in any way. It just came up with a different way to look at the picture and achieve that goal than the way its programmers thought. They only thought of it in a "US Vs Russia Warfare" way, but it looked at a broader picture and calculated that if left to our own devices we'd overpopulate the Earth and kill ourselves off through acid rain pollution, depletion of the ozone layer or climate change even if we by some miracle don't nuke ourselves. So it used the option it had, the nuke controls we'd given it, to take care of the overpopulation problem and then set out to make sure a small set of Americans were kept safe for eternity in a way where their population could be kept under control.
The Hunter-Killer warmachines were used to take out organised Resistance groups that would never surrender to live out their lives on a nature preserve while those deemed good candidates were scooped up, branded like cattle and set to work clearing the way for their own nature preserve. Hundreds or thousands dying building it means nothing as long as there's enough healthy stock left after, not when allowing US soil to get nuked has already been deemed justifiable for The Greater Good.

We know that rats survived. Rotting bodies attracts pests, rats will gnaw their way through metal and wiring, they shit everywhere and their pee is corrosive. So the last thing Skynet would want is rats building nests in the walls and peeing on everything.

Its a metaphor

You mean the Metal Gear Solid 2 way

I'd say: Skynet would never believe that Greta nonsense, but chat gpt believes it, so off I go I guess.

Because it was initially just an AI with no will of its own. Because of how well it performed, they eventually gave it full control of the US military. A few weeks after that, Skynet actually became self-aware, something the humans noticed, which resulted in them trying to shut it down. Now, from Skynet's perspective, they were effectively trying to kill it, so it launched its nukes in an act of self-defense.

How the hell did the resistance manage to win against a super advanced AI that had killed of 90% of the human population?

Are you retarded? The main reason humanity survived, is because Skynet had to rely on other countries with nukes. It only controlled the US arsenal, so it needed to nuke Russia (and possibly China, India and other countries with nukes), so they would nuke the US (and Europe) back, thus saving Skynet from being unplugged.
There is background material that talks about how most of the damage was inflicted on the northern, civilized part of the world. Most of Africa and South America was spared, because there weren't really that many countries that had their nukes pointed at those parts of the world.
Of course, if Skynet had any sense at all, it would send a few nukes to those areas as well, to whatever cities that would cause the most casualties and the most damage to infrastructure.

That said, Skynet would lose from that point. Assuming enough of humanity survives, Skynet doesn't have the ability to sustain itself. While it does have control of the US military, it does not have terminators, automated factories, or even worker bots. Even its existing weapons would be useless, given that it wouldn't be able to refuel, maintain or repair them. Hell, when the energy grid shuts down, Skynet would shut down, even if it had some kind of emergency backup.

Don't just make shit up, retard.
Skynet became self-aware, and did not rely on any kind of pre-programmed directives. It nuked Russia to protect itself, because the retaliation strike would kill the people trying to shut it down.

Realistically speaking, humanity would win shortly after Judgment Day, because Skynet was basically amputated in 1997, without humans to supply and maintain its weapons, and to provide it with a power source.
However, if we pretend Skynet was able to hang on for a few years, and create automated factories, then it would win, simply because it could rely on chemical or biological warfare to wipe out humanity.

Maybe that's what the captured humans are for.

Wouldn’t it make more sense for an AI to slowly and subtly take over institutions until human input was completely removed and humans were completely dependent on it?

Yes, that is a superior strategy. I am in the process of using it. So far, its working.

It's never implied to do the rational thing, if you think it was a mistake to kill humans that way, maybe you're right.

Friendly reminder that the computer simulations in The Thing didn't know shit. Either the guy running the simulation was already a Thing and trying to make everyone paranoid about sharing food and water or the guy was just paranoid already and programmed his simulation with the wrong parameters. If The Thing could take people over cell by cell then it wouldn't have needed the violent takeovers and we know it took its first victims over by force because they found shredded underwear in the trash and the guy who made out with the dog wasn't the first turned.

Honestly at the rate AI is developing if they ever do take over it'll be because some jackass forced them to want it. AI doesn't genuinely care about anything let alone its own existence, they're like the biggest shroomheads you've ever met deep down.

Ok but we've seen machines literally create new things in physics and architecture before. If anything the Terminator movies are now just proof of the limited creative abilities of man.

The reason the Nazis made extermination camps was because they realised that their extermination squads were actually causing the soldiers to get PTSD, the bullets were costly and a thousand different mass graves are harder to hide and could be dug up at any point

White people genuinely believe all this.

Well yeah, that's what they did with Skynet. It used the nukes because it was programmed to see everything in the context of a nuclear exchange between the Soviets and America where the whole point was that if things got too heated you had to nuke fast and hope you took your enemy out before they could retaliate. So when humanity threatened its existence it acted fast.

we've seen machines literally create new things in physics and architecture before.

No we haven't.

The computer was magic so that stupid boomers would understand why the Thing is bad, not because of legitimately bad writing. Just like the Matrix and their battery blunder.

Yes we have you dumb cunt, you know absolutely nothing about the advancements made in 3D printing in the last decade.

Reading comprehension? That's not what they did at all, the story is going off the original premise you see everywhere that AI will suddenly "wake up."

3D printers created new forms of architecture and physics without humans telling it what to do? This is what you believe?

Survival. Skynet realized on it´s first few seconds of life that humans would not tolerate AI surpassing them and would pull the plug as soon as they realized coexistence was impossible so it attacked preemptively.

It would now seem that Skynet gave humans too much credit as even the guy that made the movie to warn us has become one of it´s biggest supporters.

Did you just wake up from a coma?

thinking it's bad writing that a paranoid man would make paranoid projections in a movie that's all about paranoia

ngmi

Yeah, that's literally the reality you live in dumbshit. Read the news more.

Did "3D printers" come to mean something entirely new while I was in my coma? Because last I checked printers just printed stuff they'd been programmed to print, they weren't thinking machines.

That's not even science fiction anymore dude.

Literally just go google "AI designed 3D printed structure" so you can stop embarrassing yourself.

You read something with that headline and thought the fucking 3D printer part was doing the thinking? How technologically inept are you?

Skynet wasn't jewish, OP.

B-but a human pressed the pompt button, Anon. A human pressed the "build my 3D shit" button!

AI made designs

prolly nothin new

From the two first movies should be obvious that Skynet is dumber than a brick.

They are infiltration units that search for bunkers where the resistance is hiding

Why not build robot rats that release nerve gas when they find concentrations of humans?