he's not guilty because... I don't know, we just can't be sure!!!
Preachy ass movie
He's not guilty because... I don't know, we just can't be sure!!!
all of Lumet's movies are vile, subversive propaganda
Can you fucking chimps stop making retarded threads about this film
The jury has to be able to pronounce him guilty beyond all reasonable doubt. If there is reasonable doubt, they can't convict him.
He spent 90 minutes explaining why he thinks this
That's the point of "reasonable doubt", chuddy.
Even Murder on the Orient Express?
Henry Fonda's character in 12 Angry Men Satan casting doubt as to absolve sin and subdue the masses under an evil trance
as usual the Anon Babbletards in these threads dont know how the judicial process works and demand a proof of innocence
the court didn’t prove he was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt
That's literally how it's supposed to work. If you think he likely did it, but there's still room for reasonable doubt, you're supposed to say not guilty.
why did you have to beg him for another one of those Anon Babble schizo theories anon? why? he's now going to drone on and on about it and anybody that points out why he's a retard will get the lame old kike/faggot/tranny shtick we've all heard a trillion times
Convinced you retards do not even watch half the movies you post here
their doubt was not reasonable
Maybe he was curious. I am.
zoomers don't believe in things like reasonable doubt or due process
it's honestly frightening how easily an entire generation has been taught to reject their most important human rights
muh zoomers
Will you ever accept that you're getting old and your incessant babbling about the youth makes you sound the boomers you love you hate.
prove it
protipp: you can't
the boomers voted for citizens being deported without trial
why do freaks like you get so triggered over people critically analyzing movies and shows on the film and television board?
critically analyzing
KEK
12 Angry Men
The Hill
Fail Safe
Long Days Journey into Night
The Verdict
Murder on the Orient Express
Prince of the City
Network
Before the Devil Knows You're Dead
Lumet was so kino brehs... unironically my favorite director of all time
Whats vile about them? What do they subvert?
all i know is i'm against the death penalty for the remote chance i get framed. ain't nobody bringing you back to life once better evidence comes out that exonerates you
(death penalty is okay if there is video evidence of you or your twin doing the crime)
this
I know this is bait but for anyone low IQ a major point of the movie is the only thing connecting the accused to the crime is a knife, which this juror shows is not unique when he goes out and buys an identical one
Yes Ivan we know you're running an influence campaign on Anon Babble. No Ivan I don't want an authoritarian justice system. You've made this thread too many times.
The old guy was the worst, Anon Babble and baseball guy were the funniest. The glasses guy was like some anime character, lol.
Normies have unironically pretty terrible taste. This film is a classic because it's loved by normies, it's not so highly regarded by the critics.
The movie is fine, but it's not a top 100 best movies of all time movie, let alone top 10. I was actually surprised and disappointed that even on letterboxd this movie is the highest rated movie of 1950s.
That's the job of the defendant's lawyer not the juror
No Ivan I don't want an authoritarian justice system
Including in Israel, right? You want due process for all Hamas fighters.
Right?
propaganda to show public school kids that they too can fuck around doing their civic duty
that was my response as well lmao
the retarded Anon Babble agenda
Is Anon Babble in the room with us... right now?
nta but ah yes Anon Babble's crocodile tears for palestinians again
amuses me every time anew
The Anderson Tapes
Deadly Affair
The Offence
Yup, hes great.
So we agree every Hamas fighter deserves due process. Glad we agree!!!
unfortunately yes because mods havent learned to make their off-topic rambling a bannable offense
yet
Pharmacology has come a long way, anon. You don't have to live in pain anymore.
i doubt a treatment for their condition exists anon
insane how no one in the thread acknowledges that the kid allegedly went to the movies and couldnt recall a single thing about it, not the title, the director, the actors, nor did he have a ticket stub, and no one at the theater recognized him
automatic case closed
rules for thee, but not for me!
Funny how every hamas terrorist thinks like this
ah yes the classic
im implicitly demanding proof of innocence
ploy. well played anon!
uh i have an alibi but you cant fact check it!
What is this pilpul, my non-shellfish-eating friend? I'm just talking about how *everyone* deserves due process ;)
Putting aside all the material and circumstancial evidence, there were two eyeball witnesses, what more did they need? They don't take one of their testimonies because the juror guy says *he just wants to feel important* which is supremely ironic and a huge asspull.
But terrorists do not deserve due process
they abide by no recognized rules of war, so they are unlawful combatants, protected by no laws
he has to have an alibi or else case closed he's guilty!
nice inversion of the burden of proof anon
Its a "chuddie misunderstands a movie that is explaining stuff he has questions about but he is too mad to understand" episode
and the russian shill outs himself as always
It's ok to lose things to prosecute a few extra nigs bro ong
Racists once called MLK a terrorist. Each individual deserves due process and it needs to be proven beyond an excruciating burden of evidence whether they are or are not terrorists.
What does Russia have to do with this? I'm just talking about how fighters deserve due process. *Everyone* does.
ideally yes. in practice not always. innocent people do get convicted when there was reasonable doubt. Jury selection is where trials are won or lost.
there are white people still alive today who had their property burned down by the pacifist protests, in the spirit of Mahatma Gandhi led by MLK. 50 years from now, we'll have the same narratives about the BLM riots.
Well they probably did something racist
all the anti-brown racists outing themselves lmfao. hamas fighters deserve due process
Yes Ivan we know that off topic pol bullshit will stay up because is a protected russian influence thread.
*Everyone* deserves due process