I really miss back when everyone was trying to murder each other over petty grievances
The good ol' days when you could commit violent crimes and get away with it
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Las Vegas so corporate now, why don't people prefer back when gangsters ran everything?
Anyway I will enjoy my millions and nostalgically reminisce over when I spent years married to a woman who hated me, who fucked my best friend
my best friend who then tried to kill me
I never knew how good I had it
It do be like that
you have rewritten the dialogue to suit your agenda.
He does have a point. When the mafia ran casinos people were treated differently.
I went Vegas in 2018. Was fine but the shows are fucking shit. Everything is slop.
Back when the Mafia ran things people were treated differently
Movie goes to great lengths to show the mob trying their best to scam people out of their winnings
Nobody forced him to keep gambling. He could've just hung out in his room till his flight.
jap tries to scam place
gets scammed back in return
whats the problem
The intent is what matters. The mob did their best to maximize the chance one of the rare big winners would lose all his money back to the casino. Of course they couldn't beat him up because he was a big international client but they would if they could get away with it.
He didn't scam anyone, he took what was free in the room and played the games by the rules. Isn't the point of the hospitality industry to be hospitable?
Mob-run casinos don't beat people up if they win legitimately you dumbfuck. That's bad for business and nobody will come to your casino then.
he goes over the top in the free stuff from the room in my opinion. If he was israeli instead of a jap I think we'd all feel different
By and large the gangsters only killed each other and they treated their customers well. Look at the change from bookies to with online betting agencies. They can literally cut you off without explanation if you win too much and they don't even need to tell you why.
I really miss back when everyone was trying to murder each other over petty grievances
he didn't have anything to do with that. He just ran his casino like a legit businessman and followed orders from the owners.
They can literally cut you off without explanation if you win too much and they don't even need to tell you why.
this is unbelievably true.
A man recently won a bet in Ireland for €310,000. He only collected €100,000 because of the small print terms and conditions notice in the betting shop that the maximum payout is 100k. They'll happily take your money though and not point this out
the scene is obviously retarded because he can't even fit all the towels in his bag.
What would be on the Mob Sphere?
how can you be a consistent winner as a gambler to the point where it's profitable? The real guy must have been fixing games/races.
This is actually based on something that happened in Atlantic city. The Jap was murdered a few years after, probably by the yakuza.
sports betting is profitable if you do enough research and are knowledgeable enough about the games. It's called handicapping.
and those people joe pesci was robbing had it coming too huh?
Naw, mobsters never rough up any innocent people. Especially those who got over on them.
that had nothing to do with casino business.
not to mention killing everyone at the end when they were afraid of getting ratted out, even people loyal to them.
Back in those days counting cards was a lot easier, they only used 2 or 3 decks and ran the shoe almost empty. Roulette wheels didn't have the second zero, baccarat banker bets had less margin, all kinds of this jewy shit didn't happen until the corps came in.
The people working for the casino were the ones doing it.
meaning if you were just unfortunate enough to live in the area you're fucked too even if you didn't step into a casino.
no
can't hear you lalalalalalalalala
I never got what the fuck Ace was supposed to be. He's clearly not actually part of the mafia, just a high tier earner who slings money to the mob and was inserted into the casino to make sure it was achieving max profitability so the mob had more to skim. Was he even making money off the casino besides his salary? It wasn't his casino, he just ran it. So when Nicky is giving him trouble why didn't he just talk to the mob back home and say "send someone else because this fucking guy is bringing too much federal attention on us and he's gonna fuck everything up", and what exactly he misses at the end of the movie because it's not as though he lost his job, he made his money from gambling, so being fired and having corporations take over the casinos would barely have impacted his earnings at all.
Scorcese was always kind of a hack who got pushed because he was one of the two ethnicities that ruled Hollywood, but Casino is by far his most unwatchable "famous" movie.
Yep. It's disgusting what they're allowed to get away with. desu I'd rather deal with gangster bookies that would break your legs if you couldn't pay your bets rather than a betting agency that won't pay out on winnings because of bullshit terms and conditions or will simply no longer let you bet anymore if you manage to win frequently enough.
he was a businessman who was put as CEO of the casino to run it for the mob who owned it. He would've been earning a high salary plus bonuses.
So when Nicky is giving him trouble why didn't he just talk to the mob back home and say "send someone else
they were long time friends and he did eventually talk to them and Nicky got mad and threatened to kill him, so if he tried to get him removed then he would be murdered because Nicky liked being in Vegas.
and what exactly he misses at the end of the movie
he misses working at the casino because it gave him a lot of status as the top boss of a popular Vegas casino. He had to go back to just being an independent worker that nobody knows about. He probably would've taken a pay cut as well.
Was he even making money off the casino besides his salary?
He wasn't on the books. Phillip Green was the front man. Ace unofficially ran it so they could circumvent the Nevada laws. He would have been paid indirectly by the mob and they would have paid handsomely considering he doubled profits giving them far, far more to skim off.
It wasn't his casino, he just ran it. So when Nicky is giving him trouble why didn't he just talk to the mob back home and say "send someone else because this fucking guy is bringing too much federal attention on us and he's gonna fuck everything up"
He literally says that to Andy Stone and Stone tells him they're not sending Nicky anywhere. Remember Nicky is making a lot of money for them too and he now had a complete foothold on organised crime in Las Vegas. They send him away they risk losing control there.
he made his money from gambling, so being fired and having corporations take over the casinos would barely have impacted his earnings at all.
It would have impacted his earning significantly and he'd also no longer have people lining up to ask for favours and giving him access to benefits and societal perks in return.
Did you watch the movie?
Casino
Goodfellas
the protagonist doesn't miss "the good old days", he misses being important, rich, and above the law. Goodfellas guy in particular was just a moron who wasn't capable of self-reflection
did you watch the movie while looking at your phone? there are entire scenes that explain your questions
Turns out this guy and his wife were big FBI informants the whole time hahaha not really an accurate portrayal
Yeah I just like making money for the ppl at home, I am le dignified mob fixer bookmaker guy
Yes. That's the point of the movie, and yet you somehow think you have outsmarted the movie by realizing the point it was trying to make. Many such cases
Imagine watching a movie Casino and thinking any of the characters are supposed to come across as "dignified".
All the characters are total scumbags, anon.
Scorsese worships and reveres mob people
I've seen this movie like 20 times.
That's exactly how the movie ends.
Not only that but that other balding guy was the guy running the casino in the "front".
So what's that guy? Is he too stupid to run the casino? I think they say something to the effect of, "He doesn't ask questions and blah blah blah." They kind of say he's dumb for doing what he's told.
So he's just a pretty face or something.
I am le dignified
Literally all of them are scumbags and we're watching their empire fall apart as they self-destruct.
You should watch better films.
those were the times...