Daredevil

The showrunner basically confirmed that Spider-Man won't be involved anytime soon (Marvel hasn't told him anything about that) but that the Defenders are "absolutely on his mind" but how they'll appear is a closely guarded secret, also there'll be new vigilantes appearing in the second season (possibly Stilt-Man?)

The closest they have to it is the FISK CAN FIX IT hats. But Mayor Fisk goes back to 2015, either before or around when Trump announced his Presidential run. I think it was coincidental. Also have the comics ever had a decent story where Fisk goes to prison in a satisfying way? Idk Fisk going to prison TWICE because a single lackey (the corrupt cop in s1 and Nadeem in s3) flipped?

I said that. Spidey won't be in born again s2 but this plot point can and likely will be part of the brand new day story. The most likely team for Matt's "army" is

DD

Luke

Jessica

Echo

Hawkeye (maybe both of them but at the very least one of them)

Punisher for like 1 scene to save matt like that s2 snipe vs the hand. He won't be part of the "team" though, just watching in the sidelines to make sure matt doesn't die

I don't think they bring iron fist back and I doubt they want to waste the budget on CGI for moon knight or she hulk.

That season finale felt like Dario Scardapane saying fuck you to everything Born Again was originally going to be, Matt doesn't even get to properly break up with or say goodbye to his therapist gf, he just immediately hooks up with Karen again while also pretending they just haven't spent a long time apart from each other.

they can be anti-trump without promoting "woke" (cringe just saying this jbp kike-lite shit).

If I did a DD show (animated I guess) season 1 is Kingpin as the big bad but his backstory is sort of a mix of different interpretations, i.e. still kills his dad like in Netflix but isn't AS fucking stunted and insane as Vincentpin. He does eventually go from high up enforcer to head of a outfit but forms a criminal coop, like the one on The Wire but on steroids. He's like a part of the board for a criminal outfit running like a business. He does decide to retire and get bought out when Vanessa and Richard's sake (who's like 10 when he does this) and lives there for like 8 years until like in Miller's run he's forced back into it, but thing is Vanessa dies for real in this backstory. His wrath destroys all his enemies and no more coop, he establishes himself as the undisputed Kingpin of crime and like 2 years after this he and DD meet and become enemies. S1 sees Rose (Richard Fisk) show up and basically he's so untouchable that in the end, Richard makes the ultimate sacrifice with Elektra's help and without Matt's knowledge, he goes to meet his father who has been unaware of Rose's identity and has basically twarted his schemes to stop him. Richard is carrying his mother's wedding ring or something and basically he riles up his dad enough as Elektra records that Fisk attacks him and in the process kills him, manslaughter like. It's like the Ivan the Terrible situation. He goes down and to prison after this fallout of this after one last brutal 1v1 with DD trying to stop him from escaping his consequences. He works out Matt = DD in s2 inspired by how Netflix did it and in s2 uses Mister Fear as his instrument of revenge (Fear would also heavily rewritten and have his own pathos. He legitimately is a product of Matt's own sins). So if I wanted Fisk in prison forever, it's literally because Richard makes the ultimate sacrifice to engineer a modern day Ivan the Terrible scenario. Elektra's complicity in this causes a huge rift between her and Matt btw.

Kingpin was already trump allegory in Netflix show
His speech in season 3 was basically trump's speech

My memory of this is so hazy but what I do recall is funny af. He walks out as the crowd is livid and booing and after saying shit like fake news and proclaiming his own innocent he begins ranting about Daredevil and the crowd begins falling silent implying he's totally captivated them. The only thing missing is during his DD rant it cuts to people in the crowd beginning to nod and gesticulate in agreement and then they begin cheering when he's done speaking

Yea the last time we see them in episode 1 they are arguing but she hears that dex is free and he got shot and she runs home and acts like they never took a break. Kinda funny. Glad we have a team that understands and cares about the original show, even if some things aren't 1:1 to it.

slow clap

I haven't watched this. Does Bullseye still say, "It's hard" all the time?

No, Kingpin is actually the one who says it after bringing up Dex in the first ep. They kept Bullseye's OCD though.

it happened during covid

no but he calls matt "counselor" after every line

Matt doesn't even get to properly break up with or say goodbye to his therapist gf

It was over the moment Matt said "Karen". You don't need a break-up scene for that. It's kinda like saying another woman's name during wedding vows.

Please no echo. Anyone else but her. I'll even take ms marvel.

The fact that Born Again S2 is confirmed to be airing on March 2026 is probably because they Marvel wants to resolve and wrap up the martial law storyline just before Doomsday and Brand New Day come out.

I will literally kms if Matt and Karen don't get together in season 2
They've been blueballing me for 10 fucking years

Why is he so mad at superheroes when they saved NYC multiple times

And wtf is the task force gonna do against people like Luke cage or Jessica jones?

Spider-Man can’t be part of it. Sony still owns the live action tv rights

Weren't they teasing Karen-Foggy in s1?

He’s outlawed vigilantes technically. The avengers and thunderbolts are official government sponsored teams so they’re legal

Nah.
It was just a reference to their romance in the comic books. But in the show it's pretty clear that Karen never had those kind of feelings for Foggy (she wanted to know what it would feel like to have a blind man touch her face in s1, come on). As soon as Foggy understood that he's been friendzoned, he backed off. And he was very happy for Matt and Karen in s2, I am very glad the writers skipped that love triangle. That's why their trio is so wholesome unlike the comics.

Though at the same time the finale literally points out that Fisk is planning to turn New York into its own nation ruled by him and his wife, so the term "vigilantes" technically applies to "anyone who would oppose him" which would probably include the Avengers or anyone working under the US government.

Same with Kingpin, Sony owns his movie rights so he isn't allowed to appear in Spider-Man 4 according to Vincent D'onofrio

Have the comics ever had a decent story where Fisk goes to prison in a satisfying way?

not really, the story arc Devil in Cell Block D from Brubacker run is probably the best for that but most of time when Kingpin is defeated he just fucks off to Europe of Mutant Isreal for a year or two before coming back
I think he the longest he was gone from the book was Waids run where he only showed up in the last 3 issues of that book

Apparently the new writers only added this part because they thought that Netflix Kingpin would have never allowed Gallo to get away with what he said when they were reviewing the original footage. Wonder if the actor was supposed to appear in more episodes before the overhaul.

the task force gonna do against people like Luke cage or Jessica jones?

Super tech, I would guess but it's weird they're obsessed with Masks when most of the prominent MCU characters, even the street-level one,s don't wear masks or have secret identities

also so an interview that said originally he was just going to get shot but they felt like that wasn't gruesome enough for a death in a finale where it is supposed to be the moment he officially returns to being the full on kingpin and not the half ass mayor wannabe good guy persona.

and Swordsman.

daily reminder that ameritards live in stateds that are the size of half of europe and believe that delegating power to the stated instead of the federal government is some sort of win for the little guy and decentralization

This is clearly not literally true. It would be more of a legal technicality to get away with mass illegal shit in broad daylight. Not literally declaring New York City is independent and somehow fighting off the USA

Unfortunately this is another case of the comics making way more sense than the adaptation because the comics can have major characters show up in any other comics if needed for the story while the tv shows never can. Also Fisk only becomes mayor in the comics after literally saving most New Yorkers lives during magical apocalyptic event while the superheroes are busy elsewhere. Whereas in the show they just elect him because why not lol

They probably should have organised this to come after thunderbolts too. The void coming out of true sentry and messing up New York would have provided a decent reason for Fisk to have a surprise win on an anti superhero platform since sentry is gonna be some government issued hero who immediately turns into a monster that attempts to swallow the city

Yes. Kingpin is technically a Spider-Man character as he first appeared in a Spider-Man comic so he falls under Sonys ownership of Spider-Man

Unfortunate since he’s such an iconic daredevil villain at this point and regularly becomes a big deal in many other heroes stories

No he put it under Marshall Law

It's wild how the Punisher did more punishing in that one episode than he ever did in the entirety of his own 26-episode show.

Yes.

Anyone else still impressed with how above in quality Daredevil season 3 was compared to any the comic book show, or even the previous 2 seasons?

ESPECIALLY considering

had to work off being a sequel to the defenders. None of the other Netflix marvel shows bothered using anything that happened in that show as relevant to future seasons, Matt losing elektra and stick was way too important to just ignore, yet season 3 works completely on its own whether you see the defenders or not (I didn’t)

faithfully adapts closer to the comics directly than ever, while taking interesting new directions like fleshing out bullseyes origin story.

Reading the actual daredevil born again story arc season 3 is largely based on, it’s crazy how much stuff is exactly from the pages, and the changes are pretty much always for the better

Only thing I wish they’d done is somehow work the line

a man without hope, is a man without fear

With kingpin discussing the implications of murdock surviving even after all the shit he’s done to him and faintly scaring kingpin this way

Maybe they can use this next season of this show

EVERYTHIIINNG
EVERYTHIIING
IN IT'S RIGHT PLACE

Did they have a romance in the comics? I remember Foggy hooking up with Matt's Irish girlfriend at the beginning of the original Born Again story but did Foggy fuck Karen too?

How would delegating power to the federal government instead of the states make a difference in the mayor's ability to declare martial law?

She had a love triangle thing with foggy and Matt, cringe but the tv show doing this in season 1 is actually pretty accurate

Just glad they didn’t have her become a heroin addicted prostitute who sells out daredevils identity for a hit of heroin like in the comics

Daredevil season three is the best season because they finally figured out the proper pacing for a thirteen episode season, the previous ones suffered from feeling like they were meandering around a lot, but season three has a clear hyperfocused direction that starts with Matt at his lowest point and returning back to the basics while also building up Kingpin's villainy which escalates throughout the story until it culminates in Daredevil cathartically beating the shit out of Kingpin.

There's also some neat touches like how they really emphasized the score so it felt like a classic superhero movie, or how they actually payoff a lot of little moments sprinkled throughout the series (Karen's brother, Matt's mother, Wesley's death, Nelson/Murdock/Page) so it feels like it works as a final season even if it wasn't intended to be

it wouldnt change the fact that mayors have cosmetic role like hosting snl or some shit under federal or state control

Why are none of them wearing their superhero suits?

They did such a good job writing Fisk, he really fucking tricked me into thinking he Waac being legit and just doing the deal for Vanessa for the first few episodes until Matt gets attacked in prison

Then the reveal that kingpin had Nadeem marked for over a year, he was the one who had Nadeem sisters health insurance claim get denied after she got cancer to make Nadeem desperate enough to give kingpin whatever he wanted to make the deal work.

They really made kingpin feel like a true Satan figure, and also outlined how Matt was going to beat him very early on. I think episode 2 is where kingpin talks about love being a perfect prison and he will do whatever he must for her

Matt's the only one of them that has a superhero suit.

Is Foggy kind of a hapless loser in the comics too where Matt Fucks all the girls he is interested in?

Foggy actually betrays Matt multiple times in the comic for his own gain, him and Karen are way more unlikeable in the comics.

Karen's a suicidal drug addict and ex pornstar
Foggy is mostly the same but Neflix show Foggy is too much of a puppy for Matt sometimes

It's a shame Marvel didn't get Erik Oleson to showrun Daredevil Born Again from the start, likely because he has an exclusive contract deal with Amazon.

Devil's Reign is the most fitting comic storyline to loosely adapt in a new Daredevil show integrating him into the MCU but I still would have loved to see the planned fourth season for the Netflix series that would have been a standalone "murder mystery romance" story with Typhoid Mary and The Owl as the main villains.

I liked the “city without fear” line in the finale

How does Foggy betray him? He seems like such a good and upstanding guy in the show.

It's not like Matt is likable in the comics either.

Everyone pretty much knows that Deborah's husband is blind.
But no one knows that Charlie Cox used to be a drug addict.
So Deborah is playing a character who is in love with a blind man.
And Charlie is playing a character who is in love with a woman who used to do drugs.
If that isn't the most insane pottery in the world, then idk what is.

He’s beyond pretending he’s normal so no

Everybody is generally unlikable in the comics because they have 50+ years of stories. And superhero comics love to use melodramatic soap opera storylines mainly revolving around the characters acting wildly irrational to stir conflict

The fact they don’t age also means they will have to fail eachother eventually

Maybe I just read Daredevil in a different time period. Foggy always seemed like comic relief so to speak and was kind of this loveable loser you felt bad for because Matt was always better than him at law and women and pretty much life in general.

Not a comicfag but he always comes across as a douche when I've watched youtuberfags analysis the books. I also don't like his design. He either looks weird under some artists or is designed like some gigachad antiquity statue and has these fucking huge shades that further limit his ability to emote. Cox is handsome in a sort unique/unconventional way and the smaller circle shades means I can see his eyebrows and more emoting. It's also better when he had this sort of vacant stare due to being blind but otherwise having normal eyes rather than white/cloudy ones

I also don’t like his comic mask with his nose exposed. Makes no sense people don’t recognise him. His mask is less concealing than captain Americas really. And that guy isn’t even hiding his identity

no wonder they have so much chemistry on screen, while matt and heather was an F tier relationship with zero chemistry

Wow mind blown. I never realized it was him in Stardust because it as so long ago, but yeah just looking back I totally see him in it now as Tristan.

Also how he manipulated Dex into going off the rails. I way prefer the show version over the comic guy who is basically Matt's repulsive Joker figure with a mysterious past. Dex is still an absolute psychopath in the show but a one that actually worked hard to be a functioning member of society before Fisk came along

I like how the new writers had Matt say everything felt fake because it really did lol

As soon as Foggy understood that he's been friendzoned, he backed off.

They were absolutely going to fuck that night until a bomb blasted them.

Everyone knows he used to do drink and drugs. How you ask? Because he's an Englishman.

No Fucking way! Karen is not like THAT! She would Fucking never!

Huh? Didn’t she ask him to feel her face so she could feel closer to Matt?

Netflix daredevil really did a good job of condensing long running characters into better versions of themselves

I liked how daredevils name and costume came from the recurring “devil of Hell’s Kitchen” name, and the recurrent theme about Satan, feeling like you have the devil in you etc

Whereas in the comic it’s

I was jumping around like an acrobat while I was a kid so the bullies called me daredevil!

I guess I’ll make this my entire adult superhero persona now I’m blind with supersenses

they were drunk and horny. it was just one of those "excuses to touch each other" things.

Sure but they were in some old ladies apartment so I doubt they were about to bang

I've never liked his costume in the series honestly, I was happy that he went back to a black outfit in S3.

Yeah season S3 is my favorite, not just for that but also because I really like what they did with Dex and Fisk's rise to power even as an fbi prisoner.
S1 stumbled a bit like first seasons often do, and then season 2 was held back by the Electra plotline and the fact that it had to tie that in with the wider netflix universe. The punisher stuff was great though.

Lol as coomerbrained as it is S2 would be most rewatchable if they cast a sexy pale athletic-thick chick as Elektra whilst wearing a comic accurate uniform. I disgress, I did consider a way to make the Hand more interesting beyond their surface level appearance of being a cool red-clad ninja cult. A shame Nobu never got explored, assuming what the actor said about Loeb is truth.

He's part irish so he probably had whiskey when he was 6

Why would they cast a pale person as Elektra

In the comics she’s Greek, and they explained she was an orphan adopted by Greeks in the show (at sticks behest)

I read it in his Kingpin voice.

Ever read any of the Miller comics where she was introduced? The colorers made her very pale and blue eyed. But some ethnically the same as the actress in the show fine too, I simply didn't find her attractive tho.

The thirteen episode mandates really sucked the quality out of a lot of those Netflix marvel shows desu

Luke cage and Jessica jones season 1 were good. But had wayyyy too much filler and superfluous storylines to justify the length. Cut it to 8 episodes or so and they’d probably be much better

I think she was hot and had the same striking features Elektra is drawn with even though she’s Asian and not white

Kingpin is just too powerful in the comics to ever reasonably go to prison. Dude is the doctor doom of crime.

The most they’ve ever done in terms of stopping him is Fisk willingly stopping himself from being the kingpin and engaging in crime. He stopped it for Vanessa in the comics, and quickly grew a legitimate spice trading empire in Japan that was so lucrative he easily became kingpin again after the criminals who replaced him tried to kill his wife

Likewise he actually stopped his shenanigans when he became mayor in the comic, and only relapsed because he realised someone messed with his memories and mind and couldn’t be sure about who, how or why. Only that DAREDEVIL is to blame (long story short, purple man had global powers thanks to weird machine, his kids stopped him but Matt Murdock identity being previously exposed almost got him and his gf killed. Purple kids decide to help Matt and because they’re kids they don’t think about it too deeply. Just make everyone on the planet forget Matt is daredevil unless Matt willingly reveals it to them. Fisk thus looks through his files that tell him Matt is daredevil, but the psychic influence pretty much drives him mad because he can’t understand what it says and just knows something is wrong and it’s to do with daredevil. Why doesn’t he know his identity? Daredevil must have fucked with him)

he types in Kingpin speech pattern

kino honestly

Why doesn't Matt just ask Hulk to kill Kingpin for him? Is he stupid? They already met before and Matt even saw his alien son

Duncan is the real kingpin for me

Lmao absolutely not retard
^ This. They spell it out for retards and they still don't get it kek
Matt and Karen's romance was planned from the very start, that "date" with Foggy was just a wink to the comics, she had no romantic feelings for him ever.
Matt and Karen fell in love at his apartment right in the very first episode. You can tell by the purple lighting during the scene, symbolizing the male and female coming together (blue and pink make purple). Matt bares his soul by telling her that he misses the sky (a thing he has told no one ever), she literally bares herself by taking off her shirt.
They even reference it in season 2

You ever think back to the night we first met?

Yeah, all the time.

part-Irish

What's the other part?

devil

Has she worked in anything interesting since?

No porn sadly

D’Onofrio is legendary as a method actor and it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s been writing, talking and acting like Fisk in his personal life throughout the entirety of the show.

Jewish?

She had to ditch her original agency because she wasn't getting any Hollywood roles after Daredevil got cancelled. After that, she mainly focused on her D&D podcast, also she did play Kratos' wife in God of War Ragnarok.

Nope, Hollywood kinda doesn't like Aryan blondes who don't want to suck circumcised cock.

I still suspect D'onofrio based his entire performance upon looking at Kingpin's comic book design and just thinking "man baby".

He's right.

"Hmm what... is... YOUR new COLOGNE, British Wesley"

Murdock Lond--"

"YOU DARE SAY THAT NAME!!! I'M GONNA KILL YOU RAAAAAAAARRRGGGHHH!!!!"

she plays DnD on livestream sometimes

He is a petty manbaby in the comica,just more smug. D'noffrio in Born Again kinda getts closer to comics Kingpin,he's kinda smug by the end of the season

I miss Wesley...

she plays DnD on livestream sometimes

I would forever redefine the word DungeonMaster for her

Are we really asking this in the age of Trump which has shown that any politician can literally do anything they want so long as nobody stops them?

I can't remember exactly when this came out in relation to when Netflix Daredevil was officially canceled but it's the only thing I can think of seeing her in.

Looks like Miss Page is playing D&D with Deathstroke. Holy multiverse, Batman!

What is this? An Underground C-List Hollywood D&D Campaign?

Needs to go to the devils reign suit next season

What happen... Does she get paid for that at least?

Is Matt so successful with all these women because he is delivering the BWC to them? Did they ever mention anything about his size in the comics?

go back to Anon Babble please. we're trying to keep Anon Babble as much on topic as is possible.

Well in comic he is a 6'0 even fit male model looking Columbia-educated lawyer that has the talent and success + romanticism of being a social crusading lawman vs. corporate shill and is able enough to the rest of the world despite blindness so he's a catch

QRD on devil's reign. Cool title but know fuck all about it except something something fisk forgets he knows who matt is. Also do the comics ever explain wtf fisk never hurt matt after born again?

What ISN'T a Drumpf allegory these days? It's getting tiresome

The fandom has estimated he is about 8 inches with good girth. He is also able to use his senses to pick up turn-ons for women very easily, so he is a very skilled lover.

Yeah, he’s literally described as looking like a young Robert Redford

He is also a very successful and famous lawyer

If anything being blind makes him less intimidating to women at that point

Foreigners are RETARDED

kingpin was acquitted because… Ray Nadeem was corrupt

Huh? But he was convicted based on Nadeems Testimony to begin with

Seems weird they’d bring up a detail from season 3 only for it to make less sense

No one in Hollywood wants to hire her for some reason

Essentially, Fisk believes that it's more valuable for him to hold Matt's identity over his head than to simply out him. If he outright just spreads the info that Matt Murdock is daredevil it ironically makes the information less valuable to have at all. That’s how secrets work. However, there have been a few incidents involving Matt either retaliating on Fisk from the events of Born Again or incidents just involving the identity.

In the Last Rites storyline, Matt is essentially hitting Fisk back and giving Kingpin his own Born Again arc, where Matt systematically attacks Fisk on all fronts to take out his closest allies, dissolve his alliances, ruin his empire, and also be able to be a lawyer again. Last Rites is essentially Matt flipping the script on Fisk and giving him a big "Fuck you." when it comes to the concept of ever doing anything like Born Again, again.

In Daredevil Vol. 2 during the Bendis run and "Out" storyline, some ambitious thugs under Fisk know rumors that he knows Matt's identity, and attempt to murder Fisk to take things over before they find out Daredevil is Matt Murdock and Matt is outed to the tabloids. Matt essentially sues the press over this through some clever legality that makes it to where they can't really actively say Matt Murdock is Daredevil, though the notion is in the pulse of New York now so it's pretty much an open topic of debate and speculation.

In Daredevil Vol. 3 during Waid's run Matt is cornered into a situation where he has to publicly confirm he's Daredevil and operates with a public identity through Daredevil Vol. 4 and the rest of Waid's run.

Daredevil Vol. 5 establishes a mysterious reset of Matt's identity that is a plot point for the earlygoing, revealing that Matt, after saving the Purple Children from Kilgrave (he's not a cool dad, to nobody's surprise), gets a favor from them where they make the entire world other than Foggy Nelson forget that Matt Murdock is Daredevil. This has been a polarizing method of solving this issue to say the least because it purged many close relationships Matt has had including with Elektra, Spider-Man, all his love interests, and other street-level heroes. Matt does share his identity with the Netflix Defenders (Luke, Jessica, and Danny) during the Bendis Defenders run which was great.

In the current series (Daredevil Vol. 6) by Chip Zdarsky, we see that some of the identity stuff is coming back into play. Elektra has remembered who Matt is and Fisk has discovered that he used to know Daredevil's identity by finding his own file on it that is now mysteriously blank. The latter of these events are playing into the current Devil's Reign event running right now.

She's a nevernude and doesn't suck producer cock. It's literally that simple.

Also the threat of exposing matts identity holds a lot less actual threat after born again. Matt literallt lost EVERYTHING. His apartment blew up. His money was gone. He was disbarred and lucky to not get prison time.

After born again he stops being a lawyer and gets a different job. Lives in a small crappy apartment with Karen who herself was born again after her own personal downfall.

The point of that story was that kingpin couldn’t break matt as much as he tried. Kingpin could have easily killed him when matt actually does attack kingpin but because he’s such a control freak he insists on bungling him into the taxi to get driven into the river, and after that matt resolves himself. It doesn’t matter any more if he loses everything. He is daredevil. It’s meant to be a Christ parallel with kingpin playing Satan

Oh, and it’s important to recognise that around the born again storyline. Fisk was actually known as a legitimate businessman. And while many suspected he had illegal ties, nobody could ever prove it.

Kingpin devoting SO MUCH resources to fucking with the life of matt Murdock that he actually screwed his own plans of expanding and climbing higher. He exposed himself for what he is. Legitimate investors pull out etc

Kingpin really pulled in all his favours with high up military officials to do shit like drop a government made mentally ill super soldier into New York to shoot up Hell’s Kitchen, just to draw out daredevil. This attracts the attention of captain America

Even if people can’t prove kingpin did these things they now know he did. The daily bugle exposes him again and again and he’s pretty powerless to stop them without just confirming it’s true

Also it’s worth mentioning that when kingpin was told Murdock was daredevil he didn’t actually think it was true. More like a 25% chance

He ruined his life on the 25% chance he was daredevil. Just to see if daredevil acted crazy so it would confirm it was true.

It really does seem straight forward enough that the snap fucked things up that Wilson basically stepped in with his money to help people, genuine philanthrophy that saved lives even if it was all so he can turn the perception people have of him on its head. Wtf cares about Kingpin when he has money and is doing good after the apocalypse has occurred? But the MCU is interested only in pretending the world wasn't depleted of 3.5 billion people for over 5 years lol.

"The Snap, it never happened. We made it up" says Jonathan Frakes with a wry smirk

Are there any fics where Karen is a vampire? Asking for a friend.

and gets a different job

Flipping burgers lmao
And he had been one of the most prominent attorneys in Manhatttan

So basically until you have made it, as an actress you are expected to suck cock or go nude for roles!? How is this Fucking allowed!?

Thanks, man, I appreciate high effort posts. Plus quick question, what happens with Matt and Elektra after she is resurrected? I can't really find any info on this which is odd cause I've seen stuff where she does pop up working with him in future runs (Bendis or Brubaker I think, her having the DD mantle). Like do they have a personal heart to heart realising it's too much for either of them to be together, simply get distant and fall out of love, etc.

she played Kratos new wife

actress

actors too like that pic of naked Arnold next to some director

Matt actually marries elektra, she’s the definitive endgame romance for matt. In the recent comics she’s dressing up in her own daredevil costume to fight for matts cause while he’s in prison and can’t be daredevil. And still does so once he’s out and daredevil again

Matt has literally been homeless and happy in the comics, making money as a blind boxer and living in a ruined house with a homeless black girl. Dude makes the best of things

Does this shit work as a potential avenue to force Fisk into prison (if you're doing a DD story in a non-comic format where arcs can have finality)? I am not a true blue fan like you to understand if it works or not only an ideas I toyed with albeit it means Matt isn't having a direct role in Fisk getting brought down, only making sure he doesn't escape after he's exposed and dismantling his outfits once he's locked up.

Even after you've made it. There's a reason Emma Watson and Jennifer Lawrence vanished from films when Harvey got arrested.

Emma Watson and Jennifer Lawrence

They're irl best friends too. Hell, they were photographed at a park together like 3 wks ago.

They both bragged about getting high together (marijuana) before going to award shows - it's their tradition. So yeah, if one of them was in Big Harv's pocket, I'd wager both BFFs were.

Kratos is the dude that is raising his wife's boyfriend's son right?

Same, I miss good Fisk posting, seems he does too

When you're the Mayor of New York, they will let you do anything.

God I hated that bitch, I'm glad later writers left her in the dustbin

Lol are you basing your understanding of America from a TV show based off of comic books lol.

No that is fucking retarded. Just as retarded as anyone saying that Kingpin is a Trump allegory. Trump isn't the one who forced America to shut down for like 3 years because of the glowie version of the flu. The radical left-wing media and dems did that.

vxtwitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1887250914668617842
It's funny how he's banning them now after realizing how big of pedophiles troons
And now the left are doing everything in their power to normalize them
Really makes you think doesn't it

Bruce would obviously say no. Matt wouldn't even ask Bruce anyways, well he wouldn't ask anyone to kill someone for that matter but especially not Bruce.

What would kingpin even do in a solo series?

Just glad they didn’t have her become a heroin addicted prostitute who sells out daredevils identity for a hit of heroin like in the comics

I wish that would have happened because then she would have died instead of Father Lantom.

Lift weights

Fight lots of guys while wearing sumo gear

Order dudes to commit atrocities

Irritate Matt Murdock

Sodomize Vanessa

It's the same in any series about a criminal.

expands his empire

copes with law enforcement

suffers the occasional pang of guilt when something truly awful happens to someone innocent

a la The Sopranos, Empire, etc.

Were it up to me, I'd

have him work out some truce with the Punisher to get Frank to do the heavy lifting of wiping out one of the Five Families or something similar

recruit a bunch of lesser-tier villains or anti-heroes to style on other criminal rivals

including establishing an intelligence network that's always feeding Daredevil info to just keep him out his Fisk's hair, including outright hiring gangs just to turn around and snitch on them, like Daredevil meets The Prisoner

eventually Matt and Frank figure this out

decide their gonna smoke Fisk once and for all

last season is them recruiting the Defenders to help

And then either Fisk dies or they do. That's the problem with this stuff, it just keeps going on and on, and they never have the exit strategy planned.

be fat

Caredevil?