i forgot how terrible this was
why the fuck did anakin just decide to become a sith on a whim?
would have made more sense if palpatine orchestrated something to make it seem like the jedi got padme killed
I forgot how terrible this was
He saw windu trying to murder palpatine
Love makes a man do incredible things.
You'd known if you weren't a incel.
on a whim
there were subtle hints
Any scene that's not action is so horribly directed. George has got to be one of the laziest fucks when it comes to making a dialogue scene.
on a whim
He already lost his mother and slaughtered a tribe in response in the movie before this one. He didn't want to lose someone else he loved again and was willing to go to any lengths to stop it this time around
This, he's on par with Zack in that regard.
What was it Padme was dying of, in an era where they could take your half-frozen corpse and revive you in a fishtank? Sadness?
Lucas is a terrible film maker.
Not to mention Luke was "mostly dead" and revived in the cobbled together med-bay of a rebel retreat on some frozen shithole at the edge of the galaxy.
Whereas Padme died of Bad Writing at the finest hospital in the galactic capital.
It's like having a decent plot would squeeze too many ebin saber-fight scenes.
well Anakin is literally low IQ so it was super easy for Palpatine to get him to do whatever he wanted.
should he have named himself? It makes sense there would be a ceremony where the Sith Lord gives you their name. Remember its not actually English they're speaking, George was just translating so to speak.
They added a new scene with Padme. Hawt~
Except he was this robot building super-pilot who was skillful at everything he ever tried evar.
He wanted Sheev alive to learn the secrets of saving life that he said he had but didn't actually have but it was too late at that point and he resigned himself to his fate.
She lost the will to live which Anakin actually caused himself by going to the edge side but he didn't know the cause based off the vision.
yeah the main problem is how he is written after episode one
ok but he killed Windu then was like, OK Im sith now. It's so stupid. Like maybe give him time to process what happened. Him and Palpatine can cover up the crime, Anakin shows lots of guilt and confusion over time, He spends more time with Palpatine and he convinces him to become Sith.
So yes, she died of boyfriend sadness. A galactic senator with responsibility for an entire planet, a couple of unborn children, and she sadded out on everyone over some douchebag.
It's like Lucas couldn't come up with any sort of compelling transition from Anakin to Vader, so we had this abrupt set of silly circumstances at the very end of the movie.
To be angry is to be human. That doesn't mean he's a sith. Face it, he's only going to turn in this movie because he's already bad in the OT.
His entire character arc is like something written by a 6th grader.
Yeah. He just helped murder a member of the jedi council. Theres no going back after that.
literally it does, thats why they quash emotions in new jedi recruits
It's like the biggest mistake in the franchise was making Vader the middle-aged father of some 18 year old for Le Ebin Shocks value.
It narrows the whole collapse of the galaxy into tyranny into less than a 20 year period, makes the "mythical Jedi" some galactic special agents that were active in the galaxy very recently, makes Obi Wan a liar for no good reason whatsoever...
the finest hospital in the galactic capital.
No, she was on an asteroid of some sort when she died
i'm sure him slaughtering an entire village of tusken raiders along with their women and children had noting to do with his progression to the dark side
That's right, she willed herself to death through a combination of post-partum depression and boyfriend angst after the whole Mustafar fiasco.
makes the "mythical Jedi" some galactic special agents that were active in the galaxy very recently
Their move from warrior monks to enforcer generals of the government was exactly what lead to the downfall of the jedi though. It even provided for casus belli for the senate to further give up power when four of them effectively take it upon themselves to overthrow the head of government, a proposition Yoda noted was dangerous and turned out to be just that
I mean, he definitely had a child-murdering itch that had to be regularly scratched.
Guy was a bit of a psycho. Shame the Jedi can't screen for psychopathy or anything.
Detect people dying across a sector of space? Sure. Sense that you are giving Private Pyle wizard training? NOPE.
what are you even saying, redditor?
My point was they weren't a long-gone reclusive clan of mythical warriors, they were this group of travelling government special agents who were active when Han Solo was a teenager.
My favorite part is when Padme actually does die and Palpatine is like "eh, I don't actually know how to bring people back to life even though I implied I do, hope you don't mind :)" and Anakin just goes along with it without questioning.
yes but he's still going to be in shock and Palpatine can use that as leverage to persuade him later on.
yes he was showing signs of going over, but the execution of just doing so doesn't work. He thought he was justified in slaughtering them and that makes for good character building.
yes but he's still going to be in shock
Yeah, not like he's been intensively trained in mental discipline for the second half of his life or anything. Totally logical that he'd sperg out whenever things got stressful.
the star wars galaxy consisted of tens of millions of planets with quadrillions of people and of that only a few were jedi. nobody ever saw a jedi in real life
it was shit writing though, i'll give you that. that's the problem with unplanned prequels. you can still kind of sort of hand wave it though
He thought he was justified in slaughtering them
Someone here killed my Mah, so I am going to massacre the whole community, the children, the pets, everyone!
explain.
the star wars galaxy consisted of tens of millions of planets
Bullshit. There weren't even 1/1000th that many seats at the Senate. You are just pulling imaginary figures out of your ass.
Because Palestine convinced him that the only way he could save his love's life is to use the dark side. It's explicitly spelled out. Afterwards he really has no purpose and was a broken man physically and mentally so he went to the side of the dude who he thought tried to help him as opposed to the Jedi who shit on him constantly since he was a child.
Like maybe give him time to process what happened.
Thats the exact opposite of what should have happened. When you just committed a crime you are at your most emotional and irrational self. If he had took time to think, he would have calmed down and realized how insane joining Palpatine was. The dark side is all about negative emotions clouding your judgement.
Palestine
Heh. Palpatine.
the Jedi who shit on him constantly
They wouldn't let him on the Master's council as a teenager, even though he was super-mature and not totally breaking their order's tenants constantly or anything.
He told anakin in his office after killing Mace Windu that together they can figure out how to do it. He'd already implied to anakin before she died that he doesn't know how to stop death
Although they deny it the way people become sith in this series is more like a psychotic break or demonic posession than just deciding to use objectively evil powers.
Turns out Yoda was rifht in saying he was too old to train then
The Afghanistan/Iraq war by Americans should be proof enough to you that real people get this way.
yes if the most famous scene in movie history didn't exist we could get more yummy faux civil war drama from Disney!
The Republic did not encompass the whole galaxy. Phantom Menace makes that obvious when Watto did not accept Republic Credits
Yeah, I forgot the details but it's still retarded that he doesn't question it. He has zero reason to believe anything Palpy says after he admits he was just bullshitting. Guess he was just committed to the evil thing at that point.
who denies that? Sheev himself was just a trader who stumbled upon rare artifacts, i think thats a better way to do it
The Army (like the cops) screens for aggressive people with a strong bully instinct and relatively low IQ. The exact opposite of what the Jedi Order screen for.
More like the council didn't want to train him at all despite Qui-Gon vouching for him. Only in Qui-Gon's death and Obi-Wan's firm stance was he allowed.
Muh fear
Yoda spent decades afraid and alone of Dagobah like a little green nigger bitch.
legends
Umm how does this address the taxation issue?
it's a galaxy, you faggot and i was mistaken, there's billions, possibly trillions of planets in our galaxy so there's no reason to think star wars' galaxy is any different unless explicitly stated which it wasn't. there's also planets and people not under control of the republic
Yet of the couple dozen planets shown/discussed, everyone knows what a Jedi is, and basically does, including this remote planet that doesn't accept Republic credits.
Watto is this flying Jew who lives on the very fringe of civilization, and not only does he recognize Jedi, he's aware of their abilities.
So they clearly have intergalactic television or something.
JEDI TARIFFS
and han solo thought they were a myth which they might as well be for most people since statistically no one ever interacted with a jedi before considering how few of them existed
NTA but that's because Tattoine was in the Outer Rim (which I assure you has been retconned in other Outter Rim planets taking the credits.) I assume the idea is what the fuck use is the credits when you have to travel so far to exchange currency?
ok but if he joins, he still gets to calm down and process what happened, and he regrets joining. It makes more sense to just have Palpatine spend more time with him and slowly show him how the Jedi are evil.
deftly unlike Yidsney "lore" that killed the franchise
Its never stated how many there were, just shown how many could respond with haste to the situation with Flying Bug Planet.
Or now you are going to try and tell me the Jedi were consequential at all in an empire that had billions and billions of populated worlds.
You are going to try and tie yourself into logical knots defending a hack who put 1/10 the thought into the material that you have. He doesn't think about it much at all now, he just checks his accounts for the Disney Deposit.
this was at the height of the republic where no shit people are aware of the jedi. the argument is that if 20 years later is enough to make people forget about them, which i say it is for a number of reasons i was arguing
i simply enjoy making reddit leddit memedia cancer like you mad
if 20 years later is enough to make people forget about them
That couldn't possibly be enough time for people to memory-hole them, let alone for them to become a superstition.
Mace Windu was a master and his form was based off rage. Darth Maul used the exact same form at times. They aren't exactly picky unless it comes to little boys it seems.
You spouting low IQ takes is more amusing than upsetting, hate to tell you.
Windu wasn't rage, he was just more aggressive and domineering in his personality.
the republic said jedi were real and that they were the protectors of the republic. the republic died in the most retarded way possible where jedi were in position to prevent it. since most people never even saw a jedi before it stands to reason people would assume the jedi were only a myth which han solo believed
says the reddit leddit memedia fan
It's the Forocity Form. The more you get pissed the more ferocious you become. And he was clearly blind with rage when he tried to kill Palpatine without thinking of the consequences of a Jedi Master killing a senator. He wanted to execute him plain and simple. He was fueled by rage.
Forocity
Ferocity.
He didn't recognize a jedi when that jedi was trying to run a mind trick on him.
What you think you're some kind of Jedi?
He just thought Qui-Gon was a retard waving his hand around because he also vaguely heard about jedi
I unironically think this was a joke directed at New York, which is filled with Jews.
Yous think you some kinda tough guy?
The beliefs of people now are worlds away from the beliefs of the average person 20 years ago.
Thats absolutely fair
surprised this redditor didn't bring up the fact that chewbacca fought with jedi
No what makes sense is having Anakin's first act be something that it truly unforgivable and something if he had a clear head would never consider: killing the younglings. Then no matter how much self reflection, or how much regret he feels, it wouldn't matter because he has truly passed the point of no return.
George wanted Anakin to just join Palpatine because he wanted power despite not setting that up at all in the first two prequels. Test audiences were confused, so he reshot it so that fearing Padme's death motivates Anakin. That IS a much better idea, but it was poorly handled. George is a hack.
He basically says he wants more and everyone expect Palpatine were pissing him off so when the time came he had to choose and even though he regret his choice he knew there was no going back. His justification by wanting to save Padme was an excuse.Just as Walter White from Breaking Bad where tries to justify his shit by saying its about providing for his family but the truth was he liked being bad.
Someone here killed my Mah
It was a bit more than that. She was being held and tortured in a dedicated raperoom that was manned by guards and was obviously something the entire community knew about and tacitly supported.
Afghanistan/Iraq
Not even remotely comparable. Tusken Raiders aren't some tiny terrorist subfaction within a massive society, where the vast majority aren't even tangentially involved in the violent crimes being committed.
Tusken Raiders routinely murder and steal as part of their way of life and every member of their community is fully on board with it.
I think you missed the point. The point was that tragic events can cause people (like American soldiers) to massacre large amounts of people who had nothing to do with it. Anakin directly states he slaughtered even children.