"Incels don't have female friends"

difference?

yes

that's how the pipeline goes tho.

be me years ago

never did sexualise women from the go

girl at work befriends me because I'm not a pig like other guys

immediately starts referring to me as her "bestie" emasculating me

lol what a cuck
women don't want to be treated with respect

well aren't you special?

this is what a real incel looks like

Back then I was a happy go lucky kid b still hoping for a friends-to-lovers scenario to eventually happen

stealth doug thread

Yea this guy looks fucked up, he needs to fix his fat face and hit the gym

I think people below a certain level of ugly should be excluded from insults. Just leave them alone. Benevolent neglect like you would give to a stray dog.

T R V T H N V K E

Women don't have any friends.

male sexuality is inherently immoral and must be controlled and supressed by the state and its instiutions

They've been pushing this message harder and harder since the pandemic. I think they've completely given up on integrating the bottom 50% of men and just decided to slowly turn them into a slave caste.

Why did you post yourself?

This place is anonymous you don't have to do that

Simps are the problem. Simps are the modern equivalent of the Vichy French in World War II and should be treated accordingly. If there are no men willing to enforce womens agenda all of this goes away overnight. Total Simp Death.

This definitely struck me after working with women for a while and listening to them yap about their problems. They all have a laundry list of things they hate about their supposed "bestie," regularly dread the idea of going to their mandatory weekly social outings, still have in-group feuds with people taking sides, refusing to speak to one-another, mediators who communicate between the ones feuding and so on.... with women they've known for over a decade. But that's what they want deep down I guess, they need drama to live and big dysfunctional friend groups are the easiest constant source of the stuff.

I always considered myself a failed normie.

was in the popular group at high school

was out drinking, having sex

got to my late 20s and chose to stay inside playing video games after work instead of going out drinking with colleagues

I feel like a recluse sometimes, only social interactions i've had in 3 weeks is at the office or visiting my parents. Also haven't had sex in 3 years (i'm 30)

you're gay

Because women think they can do no wrong. So obviously anyone that doesn't like the behavior of women has never been around them.
It's usually the opposite, which is ironic.

Thats what happens to 99% of normies you fucking retard. There's a reason why you rarely see 30+ people at bars past midnight, its because they all have families or have grown tired of the night life scene. The older the get, the more alone you want to be outside of interacting with your wife and kids.

I genuinely think it's because sex is overrated. Mix that with porn brain rot that most people get and it just ain't as good as you expect.

My biggest disappointment was titty fucking. All throughout high school, tits were my thing. I fapped to tittyfucking porn all the time, only to fuck a pair and find out it's literally just a limp/weak handjob equivalent.

Blowjobs are the only thing that lived up to the hype imo

It was not a story about incels.
The kid was not an incel, he was declared as such by the stupid bitch he asked out, who led a bullying campaign against him that only ended when he murdered her.

I am led to believe neither the critics nor the cheerleaders actually watched this show.

the older the get, the more alone you want to be

Agreed. I'm 47 and unless we have a pre-existing relationship I'm not interested at all in socialising with you youtube.com/watch?v=B7JcGYilsuE
Sex is absolutely overrated. I have had my dick in every hole a woman has (and between her tits). There are fleshlights that gave my cock more pleasure than any womans hole could. It's kissing, cuddling and general intimacy that is the real pleasure you get in relationships. You can give yourself an orgasm but you can't give yourself a hug. Sex is just a hands-free, warm, sticky wank with much more effort.

I feel like this incel, male loneliness epidemic thing is some sort of demoralization campaign or something. I keep hearing it said but every guy I know is either married, been in a relationship for a better part of a decade or living a bachelor lifestyle willingly. I don't know a single guy that wants a spouse but can't get one despite trying

I'm the same. Apparently I was popular in hs (i never saw myself as that at the time but several ppl have said that to me since graduation). I can be very social when in that environment but the vast majority of the time i just want to be alone.

It's not just chuds, incels, conservatives, etc. Basically, anyone working class and with an ounce of dignity found this insufferable. And it's because of how self absorbed, narcissistic, and pompous it is. These girls make more money than most people who slave away, doing hard work, breaking their backs for 30-70k max, and meanwhile they do this and have life on easy mode. Their excuse was they do these things for team building, fun, and camaraderie and that's fine, but what irritates people is the fact they feel the need to film it and post it online for (what they probably thought at the time) thousands of people. It's not enough to make tons of money doing basically nothing, they have to flaunt it to millions and then act like victims when it's received negatively. It's that lack of self awareness, the attention seeking, and pure narcissism of it that makes me want to vomit. And rather than reflect and apologize for the outrage they sparked, they decided to follow up with a video mocking the criticism they received. Truly disgusting people all around.

It was not a story about incels.

it is certanily made in the wake of "male loneliness epidemic" hot takes that try to establish a link or show a pipeline between lonely man to redpill/blackpill misogynist and the main thing about it is ones inability to talk to women as people and make friends with them, basically the inkwels are afraid of the unknown, women in this case. I too always had friends, I wasn't born hating women, nor was I the shy kid who would get anxious around them, being raised in a family with a mom, auntie and sister I could talk about topics considered "girly" for the average dude bro. Did this eventually get me a girlfriend? No. If anything, coming from a rather traditonal part of the world, having common things with girls made me look "effeminate".

Isn't it normal for guys to have only male friends though?

at one point I had more female friends than male ones! Women actually liked me around as a friend and a confidant. Back then I was a happy go lucky kid b still hoping for a friends-to-lovers scenario

Cringe. I thought you were about to say being close to them made you realize what women are really like.

All the blackpill shit you see spammed here is 90% made up. I won''t say that pretty privilege doesn't exist, but the shit like "The 1% of Chad hoovers up 90% of women" is just taking it to an obnoxious extreme.
These incel threads are just outragebait made to push longhouse theory and get young men to vote against their own interests. And the jannies are in on it, because these threads almost always stay up to bump limit while a funny/interesting thread will get nuked for being "off-topic", all to make more room for more threads like this one.

like I said the guys that fucked often had little to no women as friends, did not cultivate deeper friendships with them. I used to play football and the shit these guys would say in the locker room makes r/niceguys look tame in comparison. Women never sensed their misogyny for some reason.

based
I've been ranting against white knights since the early 2010s, after I escaped the spoiled kid to "male feminist" pipeline myself. used to go by the ironic nickname "internet white knight" in a few places. very little progress has happened since then, despite all the redpill shit catching on and other pills being made up. and white knights being renamed to "simps", although there seems to be some confusion about whether that's really what simp means. there are people using simp to mean something else and it's not clear to me what they mean. any way, whatever you wanna call them, they are the key factor behind other men's suffering. it's men enforcing the will of women, not women enforcing their own will.

never sensed their misogyny

Buddy that's what turned them on

Yup, same with poor people. The idea that anyone is poor is just blackpill spam. No one is actually poor, and if they are it's their fault for being retards who are bad with money.

y u mad tho?

lol, you are pathetic, can't believe people like you exist. you should troon out, it would be an improvement.

Why do you are so much about my virginity?

shy nerd in high school

pretty popular girl sits next to me in several classes, chats with me about my day and all that

recognize i have zero chance with her, just like talking to her, a girl finally seems interested in speaking with me without it being a prank

soon realize she just wanted my help with assignments and projects, and assumed I was smart because I'm a shy nerd and well behaved, but I'm also a dumbass who gets mediocre grades

she completely abandons me for the class autist who gets top marks shortly after

Shows like this always confuse because I'm far more likely to off myself than anyone else. I can barely get out of bed with thinking about it, and I can't talk to women to save my life.

White knighting is kind of built into male biology. The only other thing that can counteract something like that is force or violence. There's no use complaining about white knights they're not going to go away without the latter.

Anon Babble always makes a big deal about incels being blamed but nobody blaming the conditions creating incels. It's the same for white knights though but nobody wants to talk about that

I'm going to save you more meaningless text just trust me on this cuz I am an anti-white knight too, on a personal level anyways but:

There is not going to be any solution to all these problems that we're experiencing without a massive natural disaster/ coordinated takedown and persistent hampering of any electrical grid, water systems etc.

People need to die, and the only thing that will restore biological order is a return to monke

This is all going to end in a slow boring decayed cracking of the edges slowly breaking over more lifetimes unfortunately unless we do something extremely drastic but that seems extremely likely too

So its a conspiracy?

unironic "billions must die" post

White knighting is kind of built into male biology.

no, white knighting is based on male biology, but not in itself a healthy male behavior. white knighting is taking the mate guarding or family guarding instinct and applying it to total strangers who happen to be female, or even to abstract female strangers like "all women".
simping is a misdirection, a channeling of that healthy instinct into something unhealthy. there is absolutely no reward associated with protecting female strangers. contrary to depictions in media women in the past were no more likely to reward a white knight than they are today. women's attraction was no more conditional in the past than it is today. they wouldn't be attracted to an ugly simp in 1925 any more than they are a hundred years later. maybe they would bleed him of his money though, exactly like today.

simps lose their money and happiness, go through lots of unnecessary hardship, all for nothing. and propaganda that gets this point across TO SIMPS could be effective. memes about discord and twitch mods finding out their egirl has a boyfriend after they donated hundreds of dollars perhaps? women laughing behind a simp's back about how they see him as a little goblin creature, barely human, definitely not a man. that sort of thing. forget about findom degenerates, vanilla simping has been mainstream for a century and it really needs to be stopped.
1/2

2/2

muh reset to stone age

if you dial the clock back you're just winding it up to reach this same point once again in the future. no. we need a path forward. we need to adapt to the reality that women don't depend on individual men any more. individual men are all losing because we still behave as if the individual man can make himself irreplaceable to a woman. he can't, hence divorce rates at first and now the failure of relationships to even form at all. the big competitor that no individual man can defeat is... men as a collective. employers and the state. we are collectively simping for women, and women are never going to show gratitude for all these goods and services. even men who do still get a woman are cucking themselves by paying taxes and working extra hours to carry along dead weight female employees at their company.
all women still rely on men's labor every day, but we have created abstract middle men who take the credit while individual men get less and less from women. again, even the most successful ones! it's a bad deal for ALL men. it's unsustainable, suicidal even. and it will be fixed one way or another. I'd rather see some kind of improvement in my own lifetime so I'm very interested in a cultural solution.

You're wrong. You're the guy with a grand plan, but you don't do simple everyday things.

- If you see a girl do something wrong at work, do you report her?
- If you see a girl do something illegal, do you call the police?
- If you see a girl instigate a conflict in public, do you report her?
- If you see a girl walking her dog off-leash, do you report her?
- If a prospective girlfriend doesn't put equal effort into courtship and go on a first date with you in a reasonable timeframe (1-2 weeks), do you dump her?

"Society" is a complex thing that no individual person can change. But YOUR OWN actions can change TODAY.

tl;dr

Your anger towards women is because YOU allow them to get away with things.

(Cont.)
Adolescence was about a kid who didn't have parental support. Jamie was bullied, but Jamie bullied too. His parents didn't seem to know either side of him. It took a therapist inside jail to talk with him about simple things. She wasn't a feminist harpy - she was a proper emotional landing pad for a normal hormonal teen boy.

The hallmark of incels is they lack self reflection that comes naturally from conversation. And not conversation with random bruhs and gurls at school. But conversation with mature adults - parents, step-parents, grandparents, uncles/aunts, older siblings - who can help through these feelings.

All he has to do is fix his skin, eat less and get a haircut. He's only ugly because he has a loser mentality

tl;dr

Your anger towards women is because YOU allow them to get away with things.

I really wonder if you read my post at all, anon. I'm not angry at women, I'm angry at simps. women are NPCs. women go with the flow. whatever culture you put in front of them, they will follow authority and emulate the group behaviors they see. you understand that feminism wasn't a real movement, right? it was neither by nor for women. women have never achieved any cultural victory. everything is always just handed to them. by simps.

the world is shit right now because we are collectively simping and forcing each other to simp by law, as I thought I already explained. there's no changing pro-simp laws until the culture turns on simping. so let's do that. that's the direction where I suspect a solution. they're saying zoomers and early gen alpha are more "misogynistic" than previous gens so the change seems to already be underway? hopefully it's only the beginning and with another 1-2 generations and the corresponding deepened agreement among men of fighting age that no man should ever support women in the abstract (!) we can eventually achieve fair conditions again. I will be well out of the "dating" age by then so I have no illusions about any of this helping me in that sense. but I would be much happier just knowing that our species can continue to function properly in the post scarcity paradigm and isn't self-destructing and falling back into the stone age like you wish.

the fictional story is just a bunch of pro-simp propaganda, nothing new. and it's only getting attention because clearly UK's gen X sees it as an affirmation of their simpy world view which they want to turn into more knoife loicense type laws. fortunately I'm not british.

Did you even watch the show? They explicitly say the kid isn't an incel. Incels only come up when its revealed that the girl he murdered was calling him one on social media.

What about it is propaganda?

It's really very simple anon, within a decade or two technology will exist to allow a reasonable facimile of compansionship in the form of robot waifus AND to allow individuals to conceive and gestate a child without needing a biological womb. This future horrifies women more than anything because they know it's the end of their power forever. Controlling access to affection and reproduction is the only real leverage they have and once it's taken away, they know most men aren't going to put up with their shit anymore.

Preemptively demonising the ~80% of men who'll end up taking advantage of this new system(because let's be real, even though a lot of that 80% are currently in relationships with women, would they all be if they could access the benefits without the downsides?) is the only hope they have.

Did you pay any attention to the discourse surrounding the show? What the show itself said or didn't say is irrelevant because its actual audience is only ever going to be a tiny percentage of the population. What matters is what the media and the people consuming that media think, and the narrative that it's a show about how boys are evil incel misogytrogs because of Andrew Tate or whatever and we must have new laws to PORTEC WAHMEN and make young boys' lives even more of a misery.