IT'S UP!

how can they spend an hour discussion a very old sci fi movie when there are starving children in Africa?

JUST START A SEPARATE STAR TREK CHANNEL, YOU FAT SLOBS.

How much more can be said about Star Trek at this point tbqh shiggy diggy?

watch the video, in the first 5 minutes they make it clear that it's because Rich is salty that he was not included in the first video because it's his favorite movie in the franchise

This must have been pretty jarring to see as the first Star Trek movie after TOS being so good

Unironically i hope they make atleast another 50 star trek videos

under 10 minutes and they're already shitting on George Lucas
they really can't move past it

Decker and llia were the basis for Riker and Troi

mind fucked.

i did not realize she was a pajeet

Huh. I just got the film on Laserdisc and thought about watching it.

This is my favorite trek movie. It's also the first one I saw. It's very different from the other movies and it reminds me of the pilot episode of star trek the series. There are a lot of things you would expect, but it's all a little different. I liked the weirdness of it.

makes a video about Star Trek

spends half of it whining about George Lucas

Mike just can't let it go can he.

i like TMP simply because it gave us the best theme

youtube.com/watch?v=zI9YYe-jgHI

IDK, I think its comfy and enjoyable. but you have to go in expecting a star trek diplomacy kind of adventure, not a boom boom shooty kind of adventure.

Got to think of the mood like a 2001 a space odyssey more than a battlestar galactica. and I got to say, its a LOT less of a slog then 2001. (I like 2001, but you got be be more invested)

Was this not incredibly obvious?

Holy shit what the fuck happened to Rich's teeth? And his eyes... did he get in a fight or something? Why do people obsessed with hating the Star Wars Prequels age so poorly?

Complaining about Star Trek is all they have left

For me it's the Klingon theme.
youtube.com/watch?v=58wJRrvVgZI

the only problem is that the ending is lower IQ than the rest of the movie

The 67-year-old actor, best known for his role as Pastor Eric Camden, the family patriarch on the TV show, “7th Heaven,” confessed this week to sexual misconduct with three underage girls years ago, a shocking revelation that has made him an entertainment industry pariah.

Allegations of Collins’ wrongdoing first surfaced in October when a 2012 audio recording of his confession during a marriage counseling session with his estranged wife, Faye Grant, was released by TMZ. The audio included Collins admitting to the three incidents of sexual misconduct.

Collins said Grant had secretly recorded every disturbing word, and he didn’t know his wife was wearing a wire until she told him after one of those sessions.

What the fuck
Do Americans really record all their marriage counciIng sessions and therapy shit they pay thousands of dollars for?

back when movies were absolute cinema

go to marriage counseling

admits to being a pedophile

what was he thinking? that it was going to save his marriage?

Huh. I wonder what version I have on the Japanese laserdisc I bought. Got it packed away right now while redoing the house.

Was absolutely not expecting a part two but fuck yeah.
It's great but you need to be in the mood.

Interesting to see even film cameras can get dust and dirt under the lens. I had a phone that had this shit after a while before I got a new one.

Boomertrek is fucking boring.
TNG era was peak.
Rich's laugh is cancer and I stopped watching RLM because of it

INB4 redditards say they like it

It's great but you need to be in the mood.

people need to watch it as if it was a stanley kubrick film

I AM ENTERING THE VEEGER ORIFICE

I grew up with TNG, but I love TOS and boomerTrek.

they literally put in modern cgi effects in a movie from the 70s

mike says "its fine because they look better"

how the fuck can anyone be okay with this?

What kind of asshole would enjoy two old guys talking about different versions of some boring old scifi flilm?
Me. I would.

Pretty sure such a thing would be arguably illegal, but... you know... #BeliveAllWomen

nobody would hate the SW special editions if the CGI was good.

It's for American chads. Go pirate it you filthy esl.

That's what mike says but it clearly isn't true. When mike mentions rich being salty he just has a look of "uh yeah sure". The video is purely so mike can spend 70% of the video talking about minor changes in the versions.

But it is on Netflix, you fucking moron, I just had to switch the language in the profile into English.

zoomies still can't get over the fact that the prequels sucked dick

But it is on Netflix

When did I say it wasn't you brown piece of shit lmao. Holy fuck this is why no one respects you esl retards

Maybe they'd hate them less, but people would still hate because we just wanted a remastered Star Wars and Lucas said "fine, but you will be forced to look at my digital turds all over it".

But regarding TMP, I think a lot of the charm is due to the original effects. Hell, the main appeal of the movie for me is the old effects, so anything that fucks that up just fucks up the whole movie for me.

I dunno, in general I just like old films to be left alone. Remaster them sure, but don't do more than that.

the giant monster walking in front of the camera in the "these aren't the droids you're looking for" scene

Greedo shooting at Han, Han was always shooting in self defence so why add in a bunch of lasers drawn in MS paint

the musical number in RotJ, even if they filmed it for the original version it's still really fucking stupid

Only bad parts of the special editions. Everything else is barely noticeable or genuinely adds to the film

Weren't the precuels a millennial thing?

Mike would rather talk about this slowburn boomerslop TWICE than do a DS9, VOY, or ENT retrospective

90s & 00s bros...we don't deserve this neglect.

I don't watch podcasts

I don't watch podcasts

Late Millennials fall squarely into the PT's target demo (5~12 when TPM came out, edgy teen when ROTS came out), but they were all gaslit by internet critics like RLM into thinking they were bad. Zoomers didn't grow up with the prequels per se but did grow up in the "prequel era" of sorts and all 6 films would've basically been equal in their mind with the prequels closer in vibe to the cartoons/toys/video games that were coming out.

star wars is for kids, star trek is serious sci fi for adults

For those of us who aren't boomers, here's what they mean towards the end with:

Mike: It was all downhill from Wrath of Khan on

Rich: I love Wrath of Khan as a movie, but damn did it set some bad precedents.

and the clips of later Trek projects, used to mock them.

Mike’s hyperbolic claim suggests TWOK marked a peak that later films couldn’t sustain, implying a decline in Trek’s philosophical depth. Rich agrees but clarifies he loves TWOK as a film. Its tight pacing, character drama (Kirk’s aging, Khan’s revenge), and emotional stakes (Spock’s death) are undeniable. However, he argues it introduced trends that shifted Trek away from TOS’s exploratory roots.
The “bad precedents” likely refer to TWOK’s focus on a singular villain (Khan), intense action (space battles), and personal stakes (Kirk’s son, Spock’s sacrifice). These elements, while effective, set a template for later films to prioritize spectacle and conflict over The Motion Picture’s abstract mysteries or TOS’s idea-driven stories.

More context: TWOK was a reaction to TMP’s mixed reception. TMP’s $45 million budget and slow pace led Paramount to demand a cheaper ($11 million), faster film. Director Nicholas Meyer leaned into naval warfare vibes, making TWOK a thriller. It grossed $97 million and revived Trek, but its success cemented action as a franchise staple.
Later films like Star Trek III: The Search for Spock (1984) and Star Trek: First Contact (1996) doubled down on battles (Klingons, Borg) and villains, diverging from TMP’s V’Ger-like enigmas. By the J.J. Abrams era (Star Trek 2009), Trek was full-on blockbuster, with lens flares and fistfights.

TMP, by contrast, mirrors TOS episodes like Metamorphosis (alien consciousness) or The Immunity Syndrome (cosmic threats), focusing on discovery over combat. Mike and Rich seem to mourn this shift, seeing TWOK as the pivot.

nice chatgpt post

Best Star Trek movie ever

is this another video where they didn't bother to rewatch the movie beforehand and just aimlessly talk for an hour?

You have to realize that people making movies in 1978 did not think about their work being scrutinized in 4K 47 years later.

This isn't a podcast. It's a vlog.

Rich has the same shoes as me.

Do they say anything about the fact that this was a G rated film that has AHHHHHHHHH IM BEING MELTED IN A TRANSPORTER FUUUCK AAHHHHHHHHH FUCK STARLEET AND ITS BUDGET CUTS AHHHHHHHH FUCKERSSSS

they blamed Kirk for reassigning Decker while he is trying to repair the transporter.

I saw an anniversary screening of this movie and lead a standing ovation during the long ship inspection scene, one of the greatest scenes in scifi

I wish there was a version with the Memory Wall scene that they cut because it was so fucking awful.

the amount of time and effort that went into building that just for it to be cut

Qrd?

Originally, when Kirk goes out in his spacesuit to get Spock, Kirk is looking for Spock in Vger and Kirk finds the Memory Wall, where all of Vgers memories of traveling across the universe are kept. Vger senses Kirk and sends "antibodies" to attack Kirk. Kirk becomes trapped in the Memory Wall and he is covered in these metallic objects Vger sent to stop Kirk. Just before they kill Kirk, Spock shows up and uses a phaser to destroy the metallic Vger things covering Kirk, saving Kirk. It was so bad, the scene was replaced by Spocks mind meld with Vger, where Vger just spits Spock back at the Enterprise and Kirk catches him.

Why did it take them 6 years to make this video?

It weird that the movie doesnt deal with the fact that Matt Decker from the TOS episode "The Doomsday Machine" is Will Decker's father. I dont think Will ever mentions his dad to Kirk in the movie...seemed like a missed opportunity.