dead parents
constantly bullied in school
literally nobody likes him except one guy
that one friend is only friends because he helps him with his homework
even gets laughed at from the school bus driver
How did he not come to the point of bringing a machine gun to school before he got bit?
because that is against the law anon!
Somebody didn’t see the Director’s cut ;)
Because he loved Ben and May. Why would he break their hearts by killing people and becoming a monster?
Because he's an actual nice guy, not the "nice" guy chuds claim they are.
because he wasn't on emotion killing ssris like every other school shooter
Hey! I'm plenty nice so long as women don't point out anything I'm insecure of and also gratify me sexually!!
name 6 women who would be safe with you
Initially, comic's Peter Parker was worse. He showed contempt for everyone in his class, even after getting bit, and seriously considered leaving Flash to die at Dr. Doom's hands.
School shooting wasn't cool yet back then
How did he not come to the point of bringing a machine gun to school before he got bit?
Because that's what Spiderman is about. No matter how hard the world beats him down, he picks himself up and does his duty anyways. That's what makes him a hero, not his spider powers.
and his reward was a ran through whore
Before the events of that movie, his friend's father was trying to hire him to work at his big company, or fuck him. He had hope for a better future.
Because Peter was always a hero. Even before he obtained his super powers he had to endure all sorts of punishment and trials, and yet he persisted.
Thats what Spider-Man especially Ditkos Spider-Man is all about, the man that is capable of raising above the situation.
In a less exciting timeline, Peter goes on a killing spree after he finds out Norman got fired from the board of directors.
Having 2 prior boyfriends makes her a whore?
Yes.
Never understood the hate for Raimi's MJ. She was a nice gal.
Do you know what ritalin is, anon?
Thats what Spider-Man especially Ditkos Spider-Man is all about, the man that is capable of raising above the situation.
dumb because that's basically what every superhero story is about. it's a genre that allows for very little variance between characters. for example why doesn't every dc hero have a green lantern ring? what are superman and batman just weak willed pussies? we know they aren't because their stories are also about having willpower and perseverance. it's just monotonous.
every dc hero have a green lantern ring
Because the ring chooses the owner and I know you are trying to sound smart, but there's events with all the superheroes obtained a ring, like Blackest Night.
Peter Parker was unique because he was a young teenager in the process of adulthood, in "If this is my destiny", Peter embraces his role as Spider-Man and is able to escape from Doc Ock Lab, Peter is now an adult. For Ditko, Peter should only have problems as a teenager, while adult Peter would be Parker as a man facing the world, not free of trouble but a man ready to conquer his new life.
obtaining*
Batman is worthy of a lantern ring, but Hal Jordan was a more appropriate candidate, since Batman's sole shtick isn't just his willpower, but the fact that he uses fear as a tool, making him just as worthy of a yellow ring. So he's neither here nor there, but has been shown to be able to use both rings on occasion.
Because he's a genuinely good person deep down and that's why psychics tend to develop crushes on him.
Because the ring chooses the owner
but there's events with all the superheroes obtained a ring, like Blackest Night
but this is just minutae. of course they come up with reasons for shit after the fact. what I'm saying is that at their core, all superheroes (except maybe fringe cases like the punisher) are meant to inspire the same basic values in us. if you had to describe peter parker and clark kent without including surface level observations, they'd be nearly identical as people.
Meant for but w/e
NTA but the minutae of the power rings is that there is typically only one lantern per sector, with Earth being one of the few exceptions. It's a very exclusive kind of gig, so if you have a million people with exceptional willpower, only a miniscule fraction of them would become a Lantern.
You could use the same logic and ask yourself why Black Widow or Hawkeye aren't given Iron Man suits to make them more effective in terms of destructive potential, but the answer is also that they fill specific niches and would be more useful as spies or assassins.
Yes.
She's still thinking about those boyfriends
The attitude of Peter and Clark is completely different. While Clark Kent has always being a goody two shoes, the Spider-Man of Ditko was confrontational and cocky.
Ditko's Parker is more similar to Batman if anything.
I always had a problem portrayal with Tom Holland Spider-Man. Obvious problems like no uncle ben and just being Iron-Boy, i never felt he was a real New Yorker.
You can tell Tobey was from Queens & Andrew Garfield is from Manhattan. Tom Holland never gave a New York feel or lifestyle. It could easily be a made up location from a disney show.
How did he not come to the point of bringing a machine gun to school before he got bit?
He got bit by a spider
it's NY, everyone is a dick to everyone all the time. Plus it was 2002, Peter was for posting in phpBB message boards, trolling and flame wars to take the edge off.
He had good parental figures.
And that's always the case with school shooters by the way, they always have shit parents. No one ever blames the parents but they should. Another thing that stupid series Adolescent leaves out.
Tom Holland never gave a New York feel or lifestyle
how so?
God forbid they don't just make the same movie again 3 different times
no manosphere back then
you live in a fantasy land
Mostly because there's wasn't a huge culture of social media at this point that dictated how everyone needed to feel about everything. People like Raimi's Peter are totally fine individuals that have their own interests and act a little awkward to go with their loner/antisocial nature. Thanks to internet, these people are now considered incels who will get bullied even more and have a stronger chance of becoming the school shooter OP dreamed of being in his youth.
the new spider-man is flavourless compared to the other 2, that we're different and unique.
WHY DO YOU WANT EVERYTHING TO BE THE SAME!?!?
Enough about the end of media literacy, what about the end of reading comprehension?
Yeah but you didn't say it was flavorless, you said that it wasn't "duh same as muh comics!!!!" which is peak midwittery. "Huh durr why dey no habe unka Ben???"
were
Fucking corrector.
Yeah, he just managed to cope long enough until he got superpowers. Then it was the case of knowing he was already superior to everyone. It's like professional boxers not needing to fight every big guy to prove a point.
you actually had to read a book for that
Ironboy Jr doesn't suck in relation to the comics. Ironboy Jr sucks all on it's own. Plus, bold of you to assume I was the first guy.
I thought the kid's meant to have a good dad in that show
That's because it's a show and not real.
Nah. Better trilogy than Raimi. Nostalgia goggles off, old man.
Keir Starmer said it's a documentary.
It's hilarious you bring up raimi unprompted but nobody can bring up the comics and you chimp out. Also, bold of you to assume I'm old. But when you have no idea what you're talking about it's easy to make up stuff in your own head. Do vandalise a Minecraft screening or something, it'd be more productive.
Go vandalise.
Typo.
Having 2 prior boyfriends makes her a whore?
A high-maintenance whore.... YES....
Did you even watch the movie?
The entire reason Parker joined the wrestling match was earn money to get a fancy car to show up MJ's boyfriend Flash, who at the time was driving some fancy convertible that MJ had no problem jumping into.... fuckin' whore.
...yeah, her dad was abusive, and she was looking to escape. But instead of choose to be with a wholesome person like Parker, who've had some bonding moments with each other, she jumped for Flash and his slick car instead.
Who knows how many times she gave him road-head, hoping for validation?
AND THEN, during the college years, she went with Harry Osborne.... the RICH KID.... Even Norman Osborne saw what she was after, during Thanksgiving dinner. It's not like High-School was over along with any clique hierarchies that maybe MJ could've hooked up with Parker without any social pressure... but no, she went for the wallet instead.
SO INSTEAD, in the sequel, she started dating and marrying JJ's son, who happens to be an astronaut!.... Big, strong, powerful people to latch on to.
.... AND THEEEEENNNN.. it wasn't until she found out Parker was Spiderman that she decided to hook up with him in the sequel.... Some who is more powerful than the high-school jock, or a rich kid, or an astronaunt, but somehow who can literally lift half a building and defy the gravity of a small sun.... she goes moist for Spiderman (and notice I didn't say Parker...)
MJ is a fucking whore.....
yeah pretty cool tony stark was fucking his aunt, took his suit, became his uncle ben and spider-man was fighting a iron-man villian. mcu raped spider-man. It was so bad that he only became spider-man after the trilogy ending
It's hilarious you bring up raimi unprompted
Reading comprehension status? See
nobody can bring up the comics
Because we weren't comparing the films to the comics, we were conparing the films to the other films. Reading comprehension status?
Also, bold of you to assume I'm old
I mean it's kind of obvious with you types
he only became spider-man after the trilogy ending
And you just know that shit is getting immediately retconned back to Tony Starks wank bank in the next movie
It was compared to the other movies.
As examples of what they did right. OP thought Tobey's Spiderman didn't represent the NY lifestyle and used the other ones to back it up. You did the "Lol, it's better than raimi" and didn't present an argument.
it's kind of obvious
I'm twenty five. Moron. And I only watched those movies after growing up. Get your head out of your ass.
dead parents
He still grew up in a proper and caring family.
OP thought Tobey's Spiderman didn't represent the NY lifestyle and used the other ones to back it up.
You sure make a lot of typos for someone that's so big on reading comprehension. Heard of proofreading?
and didn't present an argument.
Yeah I'm not arguing with some dumb shit that doesn't care about quality of movies and just gauges them based on their adherence to the source material. That's a dumbass low IQ rube not worth arguing with. I'll just laugh and point at the retard thank you very much.
I'm twenty five
KEK
adherence to the source material
Not even my argument, dumb ass.
not arguing
You are, and doing a shit job at it.
quality of movies
Shilling for marvel slop is caring for quality of movies apparently. Homecoming is truly the Casablanca of our time. Gimme a break.
typos
I'm on my fone. Plus, this is the internet, no one cares, fag.
Mary Jane is the ultimate nerd fantasy girlfriend aka the trophy wife. A woman so beautiful that nerds feel bad for breaking up with her. The modern audience hate Sam Raimi's portrayal of her but they don't know how good and down to earth this pornstar bimbo was shown on the big screen. If Mary Jane was alive today, she would be a massive onlyfans model instead of dreaming about being a singer.
TLDR, Mary Jane is a dated creation and is too politically incorrect to be made accurately today. Her hotness is her personality.
Not even my argument, dumb ass.
It is. You think it's not because you're dumb as fuck.
You are, and doing a shit job at it.
Erm reading comprehension check? First of all we were talking about the other guy who you claimed not to be (?) and second of all you said I wasn't making an argument.
Shilling for marvel slop is caring for quality of movies apparently.
Meme labels and buzzwords. I care about judging films on their merits, you care about categorizing films in a way that lets you fit in with virgins on 4channel.org/tv. A shining display of the intellectual gap betwixt us.
I'm on my fone
Your phone keyboard made your idiot brain type Tobey instead of Holland? Hmm methinks this is cope.
she started dating pete because he beat up her boyfriend
she was fucking flash just because she thought he was a chad and decided to dump him the moment he got his ass kicked
The first guy said he doesn't like that there's no uncle Ben (that's the comic's accuracy angle) and that he doesn't like iron man's involvement (that's to be taken on it's own, not to mention Iron man taking Peter under his wings is from the comics) nor he likes that the new Spiderman doesn't represent any part of Manhattan that he knows of (not a comic argument). So two thirds of the argument are independent of the comics, but you keep hammering on the 'comic adherence fallacy' because you know you don't have a leg to stand on outside of that. You know that if we start talking about the merits of the movie you would lose pretty quickly. You haven't even tried to defend how Holland represents new York, or how Ironman's involvement makes the movie better. All you can say is "uncle Ben bad", "comics bad", "new movie good because reasons". That's you. Fuck you.
It was a comically big number of exes in 2002
He was already a hero before he got bit
Now take it one step further, nimrod, and tell me why it's bad for Spiderman to not represent New York or for Spiderman to be mentored by Ironman. Use the full extent of your brainpower for this one bud.
the civil war storyline was supposed to end in the movie but it didn't. They made iron-man jesus to spider-man to raise the ratings. His life revolves around iron-man.
She's just a realistic woman
Women owe me sex.
Holy fucking shit Dan slott, stay in Anon Babble you deranged fuck. No one cares about your dead tranny whore gwen.
Not as dated as gwens rotting corpse.
I love these films
I would say at least like a third of people get bullied at school at some point, and only a tiny percentage of that don't go on to become normal people.
It's harder to buy guns in NYC. If he'd lived elsewhere he'd have gone to a gun show instead of a science show.
Because he's Jesus Christ.
All the stories that resonate with you people are Christian stories.
Narnia, Harry Potter, Star Wars, The Matrix - it's all New Testament on repeat.
And it resonates with you because it's all you were fed from the very early childhood.
And it's not a good thing.
It's a terrible thing from the practical perspective of living in the real word.
Probably the main reason the white race is going extinct while Jews are winning like they never were before...
The main problem is he's an obvious fag.
I guess sucking cock changes your face shape in such a way as making it obvious to everyone looking at you.
LDR, Mary Jane is a dated creation and is too politically incorrect to be made accurately today. Her hotness is her personality.
True, but missing the point...
Parker was a loser his entire time growing up. The point of MJ was that when the losers lose, you'll eventually win, and win big.... being uber-hot 11/10 red-headed goddess (ideally) is more of a caricature and symbol of Parker 'winning' for once in his life. Hence the famous catchphrase "Face it Tiger, you hit the jackpot!"...
How she is represented in Raimi's trilogy is that of a whore.... but in the comics, she (was) more of circumstantial reward that 'fate' allowed Parker to be with after all the pain and sacrifices he put up with becoming and being Spiderman.... that 'nice guys eventually get the girl'.
She wasn't purposely created for the sole purpose of being jerk-off material for 1960s teens reading the comics.
Anon what you're describing isn't bullying but just people getting messed with for a week because their mom bought knockoff shoes or someone saw you eating a hotdog the wrong way and that earned you a nickname that stuck for a month. That kind of stuff probably happened to a third of people. Bullying is a sustained thing where the bullied is targeted at all times, like with Peter being a daily target for Flash. To think a third of a school could get that treatment is fucking ridiculous. There wouldn't be enough bully hours in the day!
She wasn't purposely created for the sole purpose of being jerk-off material for 1960s teens reading the comics.
She absolutely most definitely was. She wasn't even meant to be the main prize she was pure T&A
Like most people that get bullied Peter 100% deserved it he was a massive asshole to start with
Toast
t. bully who got raped
too soon
Let's be real if you had spider man's powers we'd clearly be called the Web Rapists