This movie was so depressing holy shit
Was his daughter actually evil? Or was just just a feisty teenager mad at the world for being abandoned by her dad when she was 8?
This movie was so depressing holy shit
reminder that they had to make him gay so modern audiences would empathise with him
He was evil. Imagine you have a wife and children and you're such a fat sack of shit you just sit around uselessly eating and being gay. Fat fucking loser.
the mormon dude was a bit weak, but otherwise yeah it was pretty good. I like the double meaning of his last words:
I'm sorry for leaving you
He is sorry for leaving her as a child when he abandoned her. But also, he is sorry for leaving her right now, by dying.
He wasn't evil. He was just pathetic, self-loathing and he had given up. He was a selfish dick before for leaving them when times were good, so nothing excuses that. But that's not "evil"
His daughter was completely heartless and actually seemed to get her kicks from emotional abuse/blackmail, making people cry, ruining their lives and such. Complete sociopath who was just born that way, if she were a boy she'd be torturing cats and soon murdering people for fun
Her mom said it outright: she is evil. And she knows her better than anyone. Said she never had friends because she is such a massive bitch to everyone. Despite being a hot girl.
Plenty of people have troubled childhoods with divorces or lost fathers and they don't turn into that
Im never, ever watching this retarded degenerate crap, or anything of its kind, no matter how much I respect the main cast. This pile of crap and the gay cowboy Ledger is pure corruption of the soul. Id watch 5 hours of vile russian porn on repeat, instead of this glorified degeneracy. How does anyone come up with a story like that anyway? Why would you want to be the guy that came up with the obese degenerate faggot movie?
Was his daughter actually evil? Or was just just a feisty teenager mad at the world for being abandoned by her dad when she was 8?
both those things can be true
my favorite scene is when the pizza guy sees his fat ass and immediately leaves. all disgusting obese fags should be treated this way
you dont seem to understand the premise
The whole movie everyone is calling him disgusting and saying how much they hate him (or letting it slip after some drama), including himself. It is not glorifying him being gay / abandoning his family to be with his gay lover. If anything that adds more to his repulsiveness. This is 0% a "woke" movie
Hahahaha the absolute state
Both. Women are always evil if given the opportunity but she was also mad at her dad.
Same. He thought he was helping out a lonely guy but ultimately created a monster.
the only thing i found depressing about this movie is how bad it was
If you place a piece of crap on the table in front of your family, all of them, including you saying how disgusting this piece of crap is, everyone agreeing and being repulsed by it - you're still looking at a piece of vile crap. Whats the point? I dont care about its premise, it could be 90 minutes of non stop fat jokes, you're still watching a fat, disgusting tub of lard. Gay cowboys? Fucking really?
The Wrestler
The Whale
The W....
what's next in Aranofsky's line of depressed-man-whos-given-up-on-life kino?
she wasn’t born that way, the whale made her that way through his parenting
the whale talks about being “real” but he’s never real with himself or his daughter until it’s too late, his daughter is extreme because she has to be that extreme to provoke an authentic fatherly reaction from him
The Whale Wrestler
or
The Wrestler Whale
The Whoremonger
this got a ton of critical attention as Fraser's big return to acting
trust came out like 5 years prior and was a huge flop
It's not fair...
The Woman and its about a tranny
he barely parented her, he abandoned her. I have met many women with deadbeat dads who did not turn into sociopath bitches.
Like why did she make that mormon guy smoke weed (by literally threating him with rape accusations if he didnt), then take pictures of him doing it and send them to his parents/church? She hardly knew him.
What reason would she have for doing that besides to smile to herself about hopefully ruining his life?
ywn be bullied by your hot daughter
What about Sadie, brehs?
I could see it being that, actually
he was gay in the off-broadway play which came out more than 10 years earlier
JUST BE LE HONEST
delivery man gives him an honest look of disgust
spirals
I just want to know why The Whale got abducted by aliens in the last scene.
gay people can't be evil, and if they are it's because some boring straight person forced them to
I thought that scene was retarded. They made the character seem empathetic but then he just shits his pants and runs away when he sees a huge fat guy. The dude could have easily just waved. You see fat people like that in Walmart all the time
You see fat people like that in Walmart all the time
is america really that bad these days? sheesh
She was so hot, goddamn
off-broadway
"modern audiences"
checks out
tagline: "It's Ma'am!"
Yeah business is business, if I was a delivery driver I wouldn't give a shit what my customer looks like as long as I get my money
What reason would she have for doing that
To help him reunite with his family? That's what happened. She was trying to help him and she did
I am guessing he died on the couch and didn't walk to her because he's way too fat for his legs to support him 100% while walking anyway. That part was like a dream in his head
The whole movie is supposed to be ambiguous in that way.
Is the Chinese character enabling Charlie because it allows her to possess him in a sense? Or is she just trying to make the best of a bad situation?
Charlie is either a really kind and optimistic soul who is struggling with loss, or he is idiotically optimistic in the face of irredeemable situations.
Thomas could be interpreted as lost and misguided, but with a strong desire to save others. Or could say Thomas is just a homophobe.
They you have the mom and daughter where the ambiguity is even more obvious.
grim
His daughter was a bitch but it was mostly his fault for abandoning her and his wife
The Wigger
Nah she would still be a psycho even if they were all still together.
Her dad leaving may have exacerbated her though. But only an evil person would want to say / do what she does, whether it be as a way of lashing out at the world or as getting revenge or anything.
Anyone else think Hong Chau is low key fine?
Her crying "Dad" at the end seems to pretty clearly indicate her asshole behavior is a façade. An evil person would have just left Charlie to die alone.
that was just a dream in Charlie's mind
I’ve never seen this movie, is Brendan Frasier the whale, or is there an actual whale in the movie such as in Free Willy?
Interesting idea. Could be.