Taxing trade leads to the fall of a great republic

taxing trade leads to the fall of a great republic

How would this be possible? Shouldn't interstellar trade be free if its so vital to a galaxy-encompassing economy?

Galactic Republic elects some out of touch Boomer that ruins the economy with tariffs

Trade Federation leads a civil war to restore planet's rights and free trade and stop government overreach

Kino.
The Trade Federation did nothing wrong.

It wasn't supposed to be a documentary.

Aged like wine, the prequels did.

Why were the republic entitled to the taxes anyway? They aren't involved in the sale of the goods? who audits the republic? Where do the taxes go?

Shouldn't interstellar trade be free

Because trade is a service and that can’t be done for free without certain assurances. Traders need to be protected from things like piracy and all that, and the republic was doing a really shitty job of deciding/enforcing who should pay for that protection.

M**ns.

Shouldn't interstellar trade be free if its so vital to a galaxy-encompassing economy?

youtu.be/AubgucSYQBE?t=26

Of all the films to foresee the future, I wouldn't have expected the Star Wars prequels to be them.

Why would it be free? Should Coruscant businesses compete with slave worlds producing sub par crap that merchants can make a killing by charging full price for after they undercut and destroy local manufacturing?

Just open your own moisture farm on Coruscant then.

restore planet's rights and free trade and stop government overreach

By blockading and trying to conquer another planet

liberation from an evil empire.

watch the RLM reviews

An evil empire which hinders trade and takes away your freedom to decide how things should be run on your planet

Just imagine if Kamino could export water to Tatooine free of tax. It would completely discourage the moisture farming industry on Tatooine. Leaving farmers either out of work or surviving on government subsidies.
It's just cheaper for everyone to tax water imports. I imagine Tatooine watches closely moisture farming outputs to adjust tariffs accordingly.

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Let's keep an inefficient, obsolete industry working just because of special interest groups instead of focusing on new technologies and sectors while enjoying cheap water

Your fantasy opinion is just as retarded as the real world counterpart, props for that.

What the fuck else is there to do on Tatooine but farm moisture and recycle scrap?

It could be a great droid manufacturing hub with all that tech-savvy Jawa cheap labor but the Hutts keep it in poverty with a protectionist economy.

Lucas is a racist and the Trade Federation are clearly meant to be China. They are a group that can cheaply manufacture labor parts and make most of their money from exports.

My question is how the fuck did the Galactic Republic ever expect to enforce laws, rules, regulations, etc without an enormous galaxy spanning military? George really thinks the government just says stuff and everyone nicely obeys without the threat of force to get them to play nice? The only tool at the disposal of the Republic is to send a couple Jedi in a little transport ship who can not only be easily killed off, but their whole negotiation plan was "bully the idiot trade federation into compliance using lightsabers and force tricks"

Yeah, jawas would 100% rob your shipments of new droids. No way a factory would stay there.

Why was Naboo even part of the Republic? What did they contribute? How did they even afford to trade with anybody? Did they produce anything?
I get that it could just be a vacation spot for the... inner rim(?) but it's never actually portrayed as that. They seem like a secretive, creepy, loner cult of narcissists. Does Dexter Jettster take his thirteen kids and some gabagool on the gondola twice a year or something? Literally what the fuck is this planet?
I know it sounds trite, but Jesus Christ there was even an offhand comment as to what the fuck Luke and Owen survived on producing; moisture. How? Fuck knows, but damn at least it was established and made the setting that much more relatable. Here's a dude trying to survive and protect his nephew, here's how. The less questions the audience had to ask to sell the context, the better.
On a semi-related note: why did Padmé even end up calling for a vote of no confidence?

Did they produce anything?

yes, dumb shit. Pay attention to the fucking movie.

You round up all those little Jawas and force them to go to school. Give them an education and teach them to behave, invest in infraestructure, welcome foreign investment, sign trade deals and voila. Basically the story of places like Indonesia from a bunch of jungle tribes to a manufacturing hub.

Naboo was a manufacturing hub of high-end specialized tech. They made environmentally-friendly expensive ships and yatchs and the like. Also exported a bunch of plasma.

Basically, if Tattooine was a typical thirdie country in my analogy, Naboo is like Norway or Sweden. Corellia was supposed to be USA. Alderaan some other Yuro country. The analogies Lucas makes are pretty obvious.

Sheeeeeeit redditors gonna start pretending the trade federation (Chinese Russians) are the good guys to really stick it dorrito Trump. That’s pretty exclusive and cool, I’m definitely gonna boot up the prequels for sure now, tonight is a big night in my apartment, as soon as my girl friend gets home I’m going to endlessly talk about Star Wars likened to real life Trump. She will pretend to listen and even get annoyed but il keep doing it cause ironic jokes to annoy her teeheee im just a little trouble maker for my gf :)

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maybe people shouldn't buy gamorrean gonk droids
complain about getting undercut and the decline of the local economy but every time you buy from geonosians you're contributing to the problem

but everything is made on geonosis!

try harder than going to kessel run

taxing trade leads to the fall of a great republic

Taxing trade has been done ever since the existence of taxes

More like, why should the EU be allowed to tax US trade higher than US trade taxes EU trade ? Why should Canada be allowed to tax smaller countries who wants to trade in Canada higher, but the US can't tax Canada higher ?

Some numbers:
Canada accounts for 18% of total US exports
US accounts for 75.9% of Canada's total exports

Mexico is 15% of US exports
US accounts for 80% Mexicos export

There's really no actual 'trade war' here, the US doesn't even need anything of what they import from Canada or Mexico since they produce it themselves, for example the US produces more oil than it consumes.

redditors

We have always said that the Trade Federation did nothing wrong here on this Malagasy Birdwatching BBS newfriend.

You wouldn't be trying to draw parallels with reality from a children's movie made for stupid babies, would you? Because that would be mucho retardo.

tattooine is a total brazil it has dozens of species living there and a criminal economy
the closest real world analogy is albania
good luck creating any sort of industry in a criminal state where the black market dwarfs the legal one and sand people will shoot at anything you do
tattooine relies completely on it's aden like location to have any sort of economy at all if it wasn't situated along a key hyperlane then nobody would ever go there
moreover you can't educate jawas the idea is laughable they have less integrity than a hutt you'd be better off spending the resources making droids than wasting your time
extort passing vessels with exorbitant docking fees, accommodation, and repairs
people don't like to admit it but the empire would do a lot of good for shitholes like tattooine because the only law there is bounty law

EU shite

Regardless, thanks for the answer. Kind of wish these stupid ass movies didn't need legends 10x as big as Dune to have even a vague understanding as to what the fuck's going on. Speaking of which, the Hell does plasma even do? Spice is retarded, but it's described in detail, almost to a fault.

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You say this but I find children's shows to have more meaning than most adult's shows. Every episode of Arthur has a message but you can't say that about The Big Bang Theory or NCIS.

Die prequelfags kamala is a big ugly druk loser

Plasma is used for certain energy weapons and power plants but it's not fleshed out as well as it should so yeah you are right about that. It's like some blue energy-containing goo.

The Jedi ARE the law enforcement. That's their job. Notice how scared the Viceroy gets when he finds out the ambassadors are Jedi?

wow anon you're so smart. if only we had people like you in charge.

You can ignore the plasma bullshit
Naboo obviously has advanced manufacturing capabilities producing both fighter bombers and yachts as well as being ostensibly prosperous and peaceful with plentiful farmland. They have their own blasters and combat vehicles with distinctly Nabooan designs not seen elsewhere so implicitly there is a MIC and that implies other industries too. I don't see why you need a guided tour of the entire Nabooan economy to recognize this.

Is that what the warp core in Sneed Palace is? or is it like some energy laser to mine it?

When the Geonosian government pays their businesses specifically to be able to undercut our manufacturing to put them out of business, it's not people's fault, but the government for allowing the planet and people to be hollowed out for Intergalactic Banking Clan profits.

When one country has jews siphoning off 90% of worker income for rent and another doesn't; free trade will guarantee the first country is destroyed.
Tariffs aren't enough, imports need to be banned entirely.

Trump is a fucking retard for not repealing Obama's law permitting propaganda use internally on americans. All the seething international jews bitching about tariffs hurting them would have to shut the fuck up.

It's a plasma refinery, yeah, they drill that from the planet core, and refine it at Sneed Palace for export.

Naboo sounds like bullshit even for a fantasy universe.

Except they're obviously completely incompetent and unable to enforce shit. The viceroy didn't even have to let them on-board. It's like sending a couple town sheriffs to tell a huge army to disperse. Didn't attempt any real negotiation, wasn't about to listen to the federation's complaints, had zero force to back them up in case things went south. If a naval battlegroup blockaded some island with demands, then a naval battlegroup should show up to talk. Not a couple nobodies because the Republic has zero military whatsoever.

It's a children's series, fucking dumbass.

The only thing bullshit sounding is the plasma. But low-population country/planet that specializes in agriculture and high end manufacturing of niche goods is pretty common IRL.

Still. Can't children enjoy a coherent universe?

i would want regulation and standards on intergalactic trade tbqh.

"that hyperspace fuel you sold me was mostly water. our ships exploded, killing thousands."

"yeah? what you gonna do about it? proof, btw?"

ideally in a galaxy with actual robots we'd just have them take care of this. don't give them full-on personalities like protocol droids (why does EVERY droid in Star Wars have a personality, now?). just have them scan trade goods and reject ones that aren't fit for purpose. adulterated drugs, poisonous food, that sort of thing. maybe let each individual planet decide on what they will and won't accept, then the robots just obey.

Naboo has been trading in plasma since before you were born, zoomie

why couldn't they just have some aesthetic sensibilities (they clearly do) then send off the designs to Spaceship Manufacturing Corp.?

it's not like they're some isolated walled-garden who only do things the old-fashioned way: marble statues and swords. the whole premise relies on them trading with others. it's Plinkettian nonsense that they should be 'self-sustaining', like they have a factory for everything they could possibly need/produce (Star Wars since the beginning has consistently made it clear the galaxy does not work this way).

I mean yeah, you can look at Naboo and think

Damn, this place MUST have plentiful resources, enough to be self-sufficient and have dedicated many generations to cultural enrichment in the form of artistic expression

but then the overarching plot that virtually every other scene keeps repeating is

OH FUCK, WE CAN'T TRADE [undetermined export upon which life and death hinges on] WITH NEIGHBORING SYSTEMS AND DESPITE ALL OF OUR UNIQUE, ADVANCED MILITARY DESIGN AND EQUIPMENT WE HAVE NO ACTUAL MILITARY AND APPARENTLY ONLY HAVE A POPULATION OF <100 CITIZENS, HELP US OBI-WAN KENOBI, YOU'RE OUR ONLY HOPE

I mean come on, France is one of the most notable military forces in recorded history. Yeah, they got steamrolled by Germany, but everybody did. That was the issue. The problem with this very obvious analogue is that the Trade Federation is retarded. Legitimately, they're mental retards. It's not funny, it's not voluntary. They're full blown Arnie Grape, and their droid army AI is even worse.
Which makes the... Nabooians, I guess, look like dipshits who deserve to die and have no discernible function within the Republic.

They do trade and export a lot, it's not supposed to be self-sustaining, hence why the blockade does huge harm to their economy and is a big threat.

how come the OT get to be rubbish stories with dodgy acting and some terrible compositing but GREAT models/optical effects here and there

meanwhile, i can't look at this image, praise the fantastic costume design and CGI? like it's fucking groundbreaking they had these full 3D creatures with simulated fur and skin and shit, interacting realistically with human actors. when did we start taking that for granted?

alex jones explained the prequel trilogy more coherently than anyone else I've heard

youtube.com/watch?v=x9D8_zHVtSI

Did they produce anything?

They produced plasma. That was what the room with the big glowing tubes was during the final fight was, a plasma refinery. That's also how the Gungans have those electric orb things, which come from naturally occurring sources underwater. Naboo essentially produces batteries for the galaxy.

Luke and Owen survived on producing; moisture. How? Fuck knows

Moisture vaporators. They condense moisture from the air and turn it into liquid water. The average air con does it.

why did Padmé even end up calling for a vote of no confidence?

Because she was manipulated into it by Palpatine who had orchestrated not only the attack on Naboo, but also the circumstances in the senate that had compromised Valorum into being essentially powerless due to the amount bureaucracy and bullshit he was mired in. Amidala was desperate to resolve an extremely urgent life or death situation and Valorum was unable to exert the power to get it resolved quickly, which is why Amidala bails and ends up fixing the situation herself when Jar Jar reveals that the Gungans actually have an army, a resource she was unaware of before leaving Naboo.

A wealthy beautiful self-sufficient planet that manufactures high-end everything from yacht to proprietary weaponry?
That's bullshit.

yeah exactly, i just don't get why that anon says the thing about manufacturing. for all we know they can generate power, crops, and great works of art. but they're shit out of luck if they need spaceships or sailboats, they buy those from Manufacturia VI.

it's not supposed to be self-sustaining

That's the million-dollar question; why not?
Everything about Naboo screams self-sufficiency. Their only major export is stupidity, so why does the Republic give a flying fuck about them?

THEY GO TO TATOOINE AND NO FUCKER HAS A NABOO STARSHIP ENGINE PART.

NOBODY BUT THE NABOO CARE ABOUT THEIR SHITTY STARSHIPS. THEY'RE JUST ELITIST ABOUT THE COLOUR SCHEME.

Once again it's not self-sustaining, retard.
Nobody said this.

They export their stuff that's why it's a rich country.
Again replace "plasma" with "oil" and you basically have Norway or Canada.
Which export oil, specialized high-end manufacturing and agricultural stuff.

It's not an industrial powerhouse, they specialized their industry on some niche goods for export. Their ships are prized throughout the Galaxy, but more high end and expensive compared to something Corellia would make.

the Republic seems to incorporate (maybe even colonize?) 'primitive' worlds. even ones that will fight against them, to some degree.

just because Naboo doesn't have a military or a 'lot to offer' doesn't exclude them from being members. i imagine most people in a Republic would object to a hereditary monarchy, anyway. but they have a bunch of them, that's just a cultural/political difference. better to be allies than not.

It's the equivalent of going to Morocco and being surprised they don't have Audi TT engine parts.

Never underestimate children. Their brains are developing and they've got lots of free real estate. Groomers and educational programs understand better than anyone that toddlerhood through adolescence is the best time for someone to be taking stuff in.

muh intergalactic banks

credits chase credits anon anyone who has put money into their 401k or a coruscant ira is a guilty party
the system works because lots of little people partake in it you can't just blame the muun if nobody bought dum droids then they wouldn't make them
why we ever allowed geonosian industry to become this much of a problem i don't know for we should have demanded they meet proper standards or be outright embargoed cycles ago
they still have literal slavery and just throw their toxic waste anywhere it's funny you talk about hollowing out the planet because within a decade geonosis probably wont be able to support life
yet you see them on coruscant ready to devour this world and then the next like a swarm of galactic locusts
but the people liked having cheap shit and now insist the stars will implode if the price of droid cast garbage went up 50% vote with your credits anon

i don't get why you would raise tariffs on alderaan or taris though

We see in the prequels that the secessionist aliens are enormously productive, making their own robots and ships and being able to stand toe to toe with the infinitely more wealthy galactic center

wait until you hear about switzerland and finland those planets are crazy

why did Padmé even end up calling for a vote of no confidence?

Because when she told the senate about the Trade Federation invasion, Chancellor Valorum wanted to have an independent committee investigate to determine whether the invasion was real, which would presumably have taken ages. Palpatine also implied to her that any action undertaken by Valorum's government would be undermined by corrupt Trade Federation officials, suggesting the committee might just be paid off.

where are you getting this 'niche goods' and 'prized ships' thing from?

i could buy 'niche goods' if it was, say, wine. like Champagne. but they're a peaceful planet in a galaxy that has all these wars, they only have a few security volunteers. yet what, Naboo starships are famed for their durability? like some peaceful nation remained neutral in World War II, but they had one REALLY good battleship, 'just in case'?

Sanctions, legality, possible enforcement matters a ton to the trade feds. They still operate within the Republic and as such there's tons of ways to punish them.

They are emboldened by political support from Sidious

So she called for a vote to replace a dude she spoke highly of who refused to act like a dictator, with a dude she seemed irritated with and constantly refuted who would, except he wouldn't be elected until an undetermined date anyway, so instead she just fucks off back to Naboo to handle it herself, then a decade later she complains that a dictator is now the singular, ruling entity, and pretends like she isn't the deciding factor that caused it? Am I understanding this correctly?
...is Padmé The Phantom Menace?

also the actor playing Valorum was a confirmed nonce who just wanted to get his hands on Natalie Portman. would be a 24/7 clickbait scandal today, back then it was a nothingburger and they just fired the guy.

i suspect in-universe he carried similar traits. probably wouldn't want the dirty old man left alone with the teenage queen. wiser, less handsy old man? more trustworthy.

You know that Rolls Royce make engines for F35s, 787s, private jets, luxury cars, and power plants? Do you also know that Porsche is going to make combat vehicles again which was what they initially did?

an entire planet can't have a complete economy

You're right totally insane and the idea that they might trade for any shortcomings is just ludicrous.

How is it EU stuff? The movie itself tells you visually through design everything you need to know. Don't whinge and moan online due to being unable to parse a very simple design language on film.

maybe for the same reason we don't give china f35 designs

Stop being sexist

High end ships = Yatchs for rich people or expensive cars
Like the ship Amidala is flying around on Ep II.

Which are the most successful car companies in the world? Ford, GM, Toyota, Volkswagen, etc. They make stuff for normies. Not high end stuff.

Then you've got the niche companies like Porsche, Jaguar, who make the fancy stuff but sell few units. That's why it's a niche. The Naboo yatch would be like a Porsche 911 while a Corellian freighter would be like a Ford F100.

And if you crashland in a third world shithole like Morocco you are likely to find Ford F100 parts at a shop but not Porsche 911 parts, it's not that hard to understand.

Two completely fictional places

The Phantom Menace

it's a spectre taking over the galaxy. one that led to formerly-backwards, agrarian states becoming very powerful at the expense of their own people, and engaging in large-scale conflicts.

we all know what 'The Phantom Menace' is.

extremely rich mining colony harvest luxury plasma and sell it at exorbitant rates

pour money into the economy and subsidizes bespoke production of fighters and yachts

likely imports engines and weapons

Sweden has a fairly competitive fighter programme, and has made good designs for a half century in fighter tech. Its not strange.

Naboo wants to diversify its economy.
All this is told through visuals. No exposition whatsoever.

yeah i'm thinking of this as a sort of 'paying for the brand' thing, not because it's actually better.

i mean, Champagne probably is a top-notch white sparkling wine. hell, maybe it's the best in the world. but i don't see anything that suggests Naboo starships are scarce because they're better. they're scare because they're in demand on exactly one planet: Naboo.

yeah they might not be YT-YTs, but they DO have our signature yellow stripe on them.

Naboo is wholly dependent on trade for food production. This is what happens when you hyper specialize to game the market to become rich as a small nation.

Trade feds literally keep their lights on through trade. That's why it was chosen for a blockade in the first place (and Palpatine)

kek, obviously not. The Trade Federation could have and should have won if not for extreme plot armor for being a kid's movie. Their entire blockade fleet disappeared so Naboo could win against one ship. Their invasion force then lost to Gungans who should have been curbstomped. The Republic had no means to enforce their rules on the Trade Federation and it's stupid. But good for kids.

Because it goes against the narrative of nerds like RLM. They have to hyperfocus on the CGI as if it's all that was used and bad on purpose and George was out to "rape their childhood" by not making the movie like it's still 1976. You'll never catch them praising how many actual miniatures and actual practical shit went into even just extras, because once they start acknowledging those the narrative crumbles.

"This one is asking too many questions. Blast him!"

is the Republic supposed to be Starfleet?
Trade in the form of resources, defense, etc... is the foundation of why societies form, small or large. If you have nothing to offer, but ask for everything in return, you're a liability, which is exactly what Naboo appears to be.
What the movie is really missing is a third party that is distraught at not being able to access Naboo for whatever reason. Instead it's just Naboo being angry at the Republic because Nabooians are being held in internment camps that we never see, up until the point where their creepy, morally ambiguous teenaged elected head of state lies to an indigenous tribe of fish niggas to start a war and die en masse because... ?
Not gettin' misty-eyed over this one.

Padme is the #1 fascist princess in ep 1, which serves as the basis for the entire political worldview of Anakin Skywalker.

He literally imagines that glorious moment in ep1, but for the whole galaxy to be his ideal form of government (said implicitly in ep2).

She wins in 1, but sows the seed of destruction at the same time.

They didn't lose against the gungans.
My boy OOM-9 (greatest tactical genius since Rommel) handily defeated the rabble with a solid infantry push and scattered the tribesmen with tank and droidekas.

I will not tolerate any bad talk concerning the brave droids that fought in the SNO itt

Belgium has a huge arms industry and so do the Czechs but neither country is a military powerhouse. Why do you think that a nation specialized in spaceship manufacturing couldn't be good at it? They don't have to make compromises like most huge militaries do because they're selling to private contracts.

The irl ww2 ship analogy doesn't work because there weren't and there was no reason for there to be private bodies buying battleships. Who owns a tank? There's no reason to and yet people do own guns and they own better guns than standard issue ones. In Star Wars space is dangerous so there would be private people buying capable craft. If you want a real world analogy you would have to go back hundreds of years. Yes, only nation states have huge man o' wars but private bodies did buy quality caravels and later gunboats.

I agree that Naboo should have had a bigger military. That said iirc the Queen ordered the state to stand down and not fight because she didn't want a bloodbath against an endless droid army.

which would presumably have taken ages

What makes you say that? Send like two or three niggas on a ship, livestream it to the senate hearing, they teleport to Naboo and see the blockade. Five minutes, in and out.
Where does this inane presumption derive?
On a similarly-related note: what exactly did the young queen assume Palpatine would be able to do differently?

Droid army was kind of based

nah anything plasma plasma is bs you have no way to just know what that place is nor any way to know it's bigger or more special than what they have anywhere else but the film does visually explain that naboo is an advanced society
why is this even being argued about?

Why is the plasma bs?

We spend ages with the gungans. We see their marvelous tech. Their place is "below". Visually speaking, "below" is synonymous with gungans on naboo.

Later on, we see the naboo palace interior, where a giant tube array is coming from below, and extracting plasma.

Suddenly it clicks. Ah, the plasma is below. Its being harvested. This facility, in the heart of Theed, is the reason for the nabooean wealth.

The visuals are clear on this. Naboo plasma must be special, if it allows backwards tribesmen like the gungans to achieve impenetrable shield tech at their tech level, without factories.

Where does this inane presumption derive?

IT'S IN THE FUCKING MOVIE, RETARD. Padme literally calls for no confidence because Valorum's plan will take too fucking long and her people are dying right now. There is no fucking livestreaming it, and she's not about to wait weeks or months for it to not work out.

i don't see anything that suggests Naboo starships are scarce because they're better.

did you miss this part?

how can you possibly assert that a peaceful advanced planet with a functioning government and infrastructure can't have anything to offer like they obviously have an economy
would your republic be made entirely of worlds devastated by surface strip mining and a skyline of smoke stacks billowing out into dense smog?

Am I understanding this correctly?

Kinda yes actually. Palpatine created a desperate situation and Amidala out of that desperation made the best choice available to her. Which was actually the right choice at the time, but unwittingly knocked over the next Domino which led to the rise of The Empire.
Imagine giving a homeless guy a hot meal in winter, which saves his life, but then he goes and murders a bunch of kids a few years later. You made the right choice by giving someone food, but it just so happened to lead to a bunch of dead kids.
That's the brilliance and horror of Palpatine's scheme, he managed to create enough situations where good people were actually trying to do the right thing, but ended up giving power to a monster.

because when does it click that this is plasma unless you already have in your head that this is plasma? i have no recollection of plasma ever being mentioned in the film
industry, yes
but not plasma

Yeah, I'm aware of what she says. What I'm saying is that it doesn't make sense. Does she magically have a way to travel faster than the proposed commission?
Also there definitely is real-time livestreaming across light years. Obi-Wan does it a few times throughout the trilogy. There is zero in-universe evidence that a small crew traveling to Naboo would take weeks, let alone months.

Its a purely visual concept, one that equates the nabooeans and gungans together as denizens of the planet, both benefitting from the special plasma enabling shield tech never seen before.

You see the gungans throwing balls of the stuff at enemies. It happens simultaneously as the fight with Maul amongst the tubes.
The visual language is clear. This is the source of nabooean wealth and why they're crushed by a blockade.

Well obviously there are in-universe controversies, I'm sure there are Corellians that argue Naboo ships are overprized trash for elitist snobs that are just buying the brand, and that Corellian tech is sturdier and better. Corellia did make the fastest starship in the Galaxy in the form of the Millenium Falcon, after all. Just like an American muscle car fanatic will bash Euro cars.

But that's what made the lore great.

Of course not, which is why I'm curious as to what Naboo offers. Hell, I started this entire chain of posts off by asking if it was just something as simple as a vacation spot for Republic citizens.
Then I wondered why the script didn't include any third parties who were also in defense of Naboo, establishing the logistics of their relevance.
It's quite a strange predicament. Here you have an economy that is proclaimed to be so beneficial to its allies that it successfully relies on them for defense so they can be largely pacifistic, yet when the bill comes due, nobody cares. So was Palpatine controlling every person on gorillions of planets, or is Naboo really just an annoying tagalong with its head up its own ass?
Either way you slice it, the story's retarded.

replace the word "plasma" with "something" and i agree with you but why should anyone assume it's "plasma"
this is ignoring that "plasma" means basically nothing
basically i hate that it gets called plasma i would honestly rather it was called nab'uar or some other gibberish
it's not named in the film so it doesn't have a name and if you're going to give it one then do better than "fluid"

Nobody knows Naboo was getting invaded, retard. That's why they cut communications and the Queen decides to go to the Senate directly to request intervention.

For most people in the Galaxy it was just a dumb trade dispute nobody knows what's going down.

Also nobody expected the Trade Federation to have such a large droid army they built it in secret subcontracting the Collicoids (another race specializing in droid manufacturing). This last bit is EU lore though.

Yeah, I'm not talking about the invasion. The blockade is enough. I mean, if you're dependent on them for trade, it would create a bit of a crisis for your planet as well. Nobody is dependent on Naboo.

Imagine if Russia invaded Finland and Finland somehow couldn't communicate that.
Finland produces its own weapons and they are pretty good. They have a proportionally large and well trained militiary in addition to a conscripted population. Yet they wouldn't stand a chance (is what I might have said 5 years ago lmao) because of the scale disparity.

yet when the bill comes due, nobody cares

It's a filibusteted issue. People absolutely do care hence it is debated and the queen has supporters but without a majority decision action isn't taken. It's not as though Naboo is left for months and they ultimately do defend themselves.

The blockade had sparked a political crisis and it was due to be debated in the Senate. (Where the TF would ultimately lose). But we are told the Republic is mired in bureaucracy and subcomittees and it would take forever to decide, it's like the space UN.

But no, it wouldn't create a Galactic economic crisis because we are told Naboo is a small, mid-rim, low-population planet. It's prosperous but it isn't some massive core world economic hub.

It's named in Lucas' canon side books, stupid fuck. The movie shows, not tells. Stop whining about the thirty year old children's film not being exactly what you want.

Nah nah nah, Naboo got a little out of order themselves. In fact, I hear Naboo invaded the tradies first.

stupid fuck.

oh my bad for not reading the side canon to my children's movie

Stop whining about the thirty year old children's film not being exactly what you want.

i'm not
i'm whining about people saying naboo exports plasma anytime the nabooan economy is mentioned
saying they make space ferarris is much better

It's like poetry, it rhythms

see>People absolutely do care hence it is debated and the queen has supporters
Who? Besides individuals, I.E. Valorum, Qui-Gon.
The irony of the situation is that she argues for the Republic's aid in preserving "Naboo's sovereignty" but has zero respect for other's, nor any admission that Naboo being sovereign is what has directly lead to its weakened (if not entirely non-existent) political state and apparent lack of self-sufficiency.
It's a planet of fools that nobody weeps for.

Did Naboo ever thank the Republic for its patronage? No, not once. Amidala went to the senate and didn't even say 'thank you'. Disgraceful.

So does birthright citizenship. Always the little things

Political crisis, among the Naboo. Nobody in the Galactic Senate cares except, ironically, Valorum, who only appears to care because he's just a good guy who saw the injustice of the "taxation of trade routes" for what it is, whatever that may be.
Forever to decide what? To send a commission? The Trade Federation suggests it, and Valorum is ready to send it. All Padmé had to do is say yes. It's just an investigation that begins and ends with a cruiser rolling up to Naboo. They're not probing information or drafting legislation. There is no vote, it's just yes or no.

as an essexposter, i do!!!

For the investigation to be gathered, sent, investigate if it's not destroyed and/or otherwise delayed/tricked/obscured. Padme is panicked and urgently requires a force to free the planet rather than dink around seeing if anything's happening. They could take months to come back and say they didn't find anything. It's. All. In. The. Movie. You look like an utter imbecile asking these basic questions any baby understood just from watching.

Who besides individuals doesn't care? Are you expecting to see protests in the streets because people didn't get last week's shipment from Naboo? It's a small isolated planet near the edge of the galaxy at the fringes of the republic so yes it isn't a core world. We are talking about a timeline of days not months or years.

I like the Trade Federation ships

We are shown a large part of the Senate supports Naboo. Traditionally "good-guy worlds" seem to side with the Naboo (Alderaan, Kashyyyk, Corellia and a few others) while world's that have ties to the Trade Federation side with them (Malastare, and a few others I can't recall).

Ultimately the Senate sides with Amidala and even elects a Naboo senator (Palpatine) as the new Chancellor. Of course we later learn both sides are secretly being manipulated by Palps and it was all a manufactured crisis to get himself elected taking advantage of the wave of sympathy created for his little bullied planet.

George Lucas is brilliant and underrated

Can't the Jedi force-magic you into making decisions in their favour? I haven't seen anything other than the 6 first movies but I always thought that was more terrifying than their saber swinging.

It's one dude in a ship. Hell, send Qui-Gon right then and there. Nobody in the Senate would question the integrity of the Jedi. I don't think you're fully comprehending the implication here; whether the commission is sent immediately or not, it being approved means the Trade Federation has one of two choices

Remain, and be caught

Leave, and forget it happened

Both benefit the people of Naboo, at least in the short term. Maybe in the long term, invest in defense spending. At least enough to fight off comedic relief droids.
Yes, actually. Considering the opening crawl outright says the taxation issue has created "turmoil in the Galactic Republic" and that the Senate is "endlessly debating" both it and, more specifically, the Trade Federation's blockade of Naboo. Yet the only person who seems to bring it up is, well, Naboo representatives. Nobody cares, about either correlated subject, even though we're told they do.

You don't call a vote of no confidence for that. Padme is just a retard. The whole trilogy makes no sense because it's written in a disjointed manner. Palp's plan makes no sense and the Jedi are even dumber.