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HITLER WAS THE MOST EVIL MAN IN HISTORY

lmao, always

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Name one (1) person eviler

implodes a modern developed white nation because of genocidal fantasies that never had any chance of coming true in the first place

not only the most evil but also the most retarded

Name 2

Genghis

Joseph Stalin, Tamerlane
You have two now.

pol pot

Stalin, Mao

mao and its not even close

George Soros

Measurably speaking, Lavrentiy Beria is probably the most evil person. He was both of a genocidal regime member AND a serial killer/rapist. He combines the scale of a dictator with the hands-on evil of a serial killer

osama bin laden

Benjamin Netanyahu

It's retarded to say "well, Stalin and Mao killed more people so that automatically makes them worse!" The actual answer is Pol Pot. He killed way less people than Hitler, but the sheer malicious intent behind his crimes are far worse than any other dictator's

churchill
netanyahu
roosevelt
stalin

Beria was a saint compared to dirlewanger

lenin

Saddam

Hitler only killed less people than these three because he lost.

me

yup, stopped watching right there

Oh yeah, forgot about him. Dirlewanger, Beria, and Pol Pot are definitely the three best answers ITT

Stalin was legit evil though. Mao was less evil and more just incompetent.

Stalin was Palpatine if he real

Germany got lucky by becoming the frontier of the cold war so the west had to keep it strong otherwise the allies planned to impoverish it to sub saharan levels post war.

You're right that bodycount alone doesn't make one more or less evil, however those two were in fact more evil than mustache-man AND had higher kill counts.

He is to anglos

And he's a good guy to Indians for the same reason

Is he though?

I don't know man, he had this pic saved on his pc, can't be completely evil

Hitler wasn't even a german aberration. The german empire committed similar genocides in africa

me

Evil guy is named Hitler

Second in command is named Himmler

Evil guy backstabs other evil guy to further his own agenda

The bad guys wear black uniforms with skulls on them

They are literally called nazis

Who wrote this trash?

This is bullshit. None of those people ordered industrial mass murder on the scale of hitler. Nobody in history has ever committed industrial genocide like hitler.

they are literally called Nazis

I don't get it

Almost all of Hitler’s inner circle were worse than him. He was actually one of the more reasonable people at the head of the Nazi party.

Genghis Khan
Whoever led the Jews against the Philistines
Gaius Julius Caesar
etc.

oh but its industrial!

So?

mohamed atta, unironically

The writing is just trash.

make a sequel to the widely popular WW1

"DUDE WHAT IF INSTEAD THEY SIT IN THE TRENCHES AND CONTEMPLATE THE INDUSTRIALISATION OF WAR AND KILLING THEY JUST MOVE REALLY FAST"

The bad guy from the first movie comes back but this time, he's more evil and stronger

Stalin purges were similar in scope and ruthlessness, just a bit less refined and efficient because Russians are incapable at doing everything
Cultural revolution was pretty nasty as well

Define industrial genocide. There have been multiple people throughout history that have committed purposeful depopulation.

how do you measure evil? I'm pretty sure every famous serial killer in the past is more evil than him, because they killed and tortured people just for the love of the game, not for some strategical reason or global geopolitical situation, most of Hitlers victims are collateral of a global fucking war, they are acting as if Hitler knew every causality personally end ordered their death.

The problem with evil is not defining what is evil. It has been measured if you want to claim top contender.
Hitler clearly wasn't sadistic, as in delivering pleasure from pain.
His kill count was lower than Stalin and Mao's.

Define industrial genocide

Trains and gas chambers

sequels are always lazy remakes of the first movie, WW2 was no different.

the added theatres felt tacky and out of place (lmao africa front, norway, burma???)

and for some reason britain, the clear hero of the first movie, just plays cuck in the first act and lets the villain get away with everything.

and the complete idiocy by the writers to add japan as a secondary antagonist, who didnt even interact with the main villain germany in any way. if you have them in the same movie, at least give them some scenes together ffs

it was just a complete soulless cashgrab, audiences have already memoryholed it.

Vlad the Impailer was pretty fucked up.

Yeah but so what? What's special about it?

the government and police going door to door with kill lists and neighbors disappearing in a planned, purposeful and methodical genocide is a different league than the mongols riding into your country and simply trashing everything.

germany's genocide was special because it was cold, calculated, methodical. not in the heat of battle or an act of revenge, it was a bureaucratic act

17 millions

Weren't they 6?

Salome

Mao's deaths were mostly due to incompetence

they're counting Europeans too

Yeah, 6 billion

So where stalin purges though. Idk a lot about the process of cultural revolution for Mao

I remember saying Himmler seemed worse than Hitler in uni class and everyone including the professor looked at me like I'm some kind of retard

The truth is, had this video been made ten years ago, it would've probably been pretty good. In Trump's America of course, it has to be how Hitler is literally Satan.

Mostly

the only reason the soviet/stalin terror isnt more widely known is because russia is still a shithole and there hasnt been time and effort made in order to excavate, document and publicize all the atrocities that happened.

russia is still trying to whitewash parts of its history (including stuff about the soviets) and simply bury some uncomfortable parts. the same is true to some extent for china.

the general gist of the crimes is known already, but a full documentation like in germany never happened for various reasons. we simply don't know yet how deep the rot under stalin spread and how high the deathtoll really was

More reasonable than Hitler

Goering

Speer

Bormann

More insane than Hitler

Himmler

Heydrich

Goebbels

Hess

Streicher

You ever notice how anybody that committed genocide pre-20th century like Julius and Genghis are considered cool, but anybody to do it in the last century is reviled? Why is that?

Himmler would have been a terrifying fuhrer

Jews

how come these genocide cases where we have literal tons of evidence, and sometimes still living eyewitnesses, are more despised in the public consciousness than some atrocity that happened 2000 years ago and we only have 3 sentences of text as documentation?

Perhaps we can hope for Jews to try and do said excavation in order to concoct another holocaust narrative to garner sympathy and keep genocifing Palestinians undisturbed now that normals have grown numb to the old one

Jews seem to get away with it just fine.

it boggles my mind that mengele isn't an african lastname

Its the other way around lol

As we distance from the events the Nazis will be less ultimate evil and more this thing that happened

In a way they already sort of are starting to become that, very few young people care that much anymore

He'd have taken a coup in a few years. People actually liked Hitler, at least on the beginning. Nobody liked Himmler.

Your raid do nothing Ivan.
No Ivan it isn't. Yes Ivan the nazis own documents were used against them. Yes Ivan we know this thread is part of your influence campaign.

If Genghis had had access to gas chambers, I’m sure he would have used them. The Mongols did not just kill people as collateral in war, they would purposely depopulate entire towns and cities.

mao, stalin

Yall are retarded.
These Hitlery dictator types arent the most evil people of all time since they didnt "directly" kill these people. For Saddam all the people he "killed" are numbers on paper, non-existant.

Truly evil, malevolent beings kill people with their own hands, "people" like Ted Bundy and Dennis Rader, despite killing "less", are much eviler than Hitler could ever hope to be.

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influence campaign

Over what and for what purpose? We already own the potus

there is also the factor of time, stuff that happened 800 years ago barely has any bearing on the real world anymore, while we still all live in the afterwave of WW2 and the world it created.

genghis khans influence on the world has untimately faded with time, people are largely aware that he was a murderous warlord and barely anyone celebrates his heritage.

a few centuries from now, when the political landscape has shifted, Nazis will also be largely forgotten. the world wars will probably be re-contextualized into a single struggle of the 20th century, similar to the 80-years-war or the dutch-british wars, with the genocides happening being a footnote of history

Buddy, there is tons of documentation on Julius and Genghis.

Ivan

it's usually Muslims who post antisemitic shit in here. Russians actually go to prison if they post shit like that.

literally the only documentation of caesars genocide in gaul is from the book he himself wrote lol.

most accounts come from historians that lived decades, sometimes centuries later.
its nowhere near close on the same level of the documentation we have on WW2 and the holocaust.

The real answer is that winners write history, and Julius and Genghis were successful in their genocidal conquests while Hitler was a big fat loser.

Genghis would order the entire population of a town killed just incentivise the next town to not fight back.

It was pretty standard practice up to the last hundred years or so for a conquering army kill adult males in a settlement rape the women and sell the kids into slavery.

Every post you make is identifiable ivan.

If Genghis had had access to gas chambers, I’m sure he would have used them

I doubt it. Didn't he make a point to make his genocides appear ruthless and gruesome as intimidation and to set examples, making a point of arranging pyramids of heads and such?
Nazis on the other hand came up with gas chambers to alleviate the stress for the solider that would come from executing innocent citizens the whole day round and ovens to get rid of proofs. They seem much more prudish about killing than the mongols

the retard for believing the lolocaust is you.

Mao won and we still know he killed tens of millions, how come? commie china is still alive, and he is generally a revered figure in china. maybe because you pull this "history is written by the winners" phrase out of your ass.

So Jews is still correct

take your meds

No it isnt. Not morally

Just a coincidence they own all woke media then

everybody is always talking about Jewish victims, even though he also killed third of Poland's population

Literally everyone

And the poltard admits this is a raid thread.

Drumllethinskkn

the law, and even public understanding of morality, clearly makes a difference between kinds of murders.

there are crimes of passion, that happen in the the heat of the moment, under various circumstances that the law can consider manslaughter instead of murder. and generally so do people, context for the action is important.

and then there's cold blooded murder, thats planned and prepared and executed. its a kind of betrayal, and people and the law view it much less favourably. because there is a clear difference

Nazis on the other hand came up with gas chambers to alleviate the stress for the solider that would come from executing innocent citizens the whole day round and ovens to get rid of proofs. They seem much more prudish about killing than the mongols

the utter desperation of a poltard to defend nazis is always good for a laugh

cool fairy tale, shlomo.

Planning a war and genocide is not a crime of passion.
Next.

raid

Anon Babble has been a Anon Babble colony for a decade. Nowadays it is just blue Anon Babble
Dunno why it happened to the television and film board of all boards but it is what it is

yeah it isnt, its cold blooded murder. and thats one of the reasons why germany's genocide is more villified that genghis khans genocide

poltard

shlomo

What am I then? Make up your mind

How are they different? You never explained

History Buffs is a shit channel and always has been.

there's people ITT who think that Anon BabbleACKs are not regulars of Anon Babble

do some of you really just stick to one board or are you just memeing?

Take that back you faget

No Ivan your raids aren't accepted here. Yes Ivan we know you're desperate.

You have no power here Ivan, no matter how much you spend to keep these raid threads up.
No Ivan false flagging yourself doesn't work.

read the damn thread.
if you can't tell the difference between men with swords coming to your town and setting everything on fire, and your local baker calling the police who grabs you at 6AM and takes you to be shot in the back of the head, then I don't know what to tell you.

there are clear moral and legal differences between kinds of murders, even laws from pre-historic times acknowledge that knocking somebody dead in the heat of battle and a planned murder of your neighbor for money are two different kinds of murders, with one clearly being viewed more negatively than the other in the eyes of the law and the public.

whiny bong with a cartoon avatar doesn't like braveheart. hard pass.

you sound like a schizo broken record. go outside, take a walk

Genghis went above and beyond the normal standards of genocide even for the time though. He didn’t just slay inhabitants of cities that resisted him, he would prematurely eraticate cities that he thought could even potentially be a pain in the butt to administrate.

Churchill, Roosevelt, Stalin.

The problem with evil is not defining what is evil.

It's defined as "attacking God's Chosen people that deserve to rule over the goyim"

theres about 7 billion of those alive right now

Mao won

Hence why he’s worshipped in China. It’s only the west that views him through the lens of an evil dictator because obviously he never subjected them.

My friggin’ wife!

kek

there are clear moral and legal differences between kinds of murders

Nta but under which category would fall genghis khan's 1204 genocide of the naiman tribe when he ordered to kill all males over the age of three years? Or the destruction of nishapur in 1221 when he had every man woman and child killed, the walls razed, and oxen driven over the ruins so nothing would be left? Or the flooding of bukhara in 1220 when he had a river diverted over the sieged city? Or the planned famines that devastated the khwarezmian empire? Were they "heat of the battle" kind of deal?

I’m NTA nor a Anon Babbletard, but I don’t know why people act like gas chambers are so much worse than any other means of genocide when it’s arguably one of the more merciful methods of extermination.

And the poltard admits he's russian.

Not a good lie.
Yes Ivan we know you have the same set of dismissals. Schizo tranny jew reddit commie blah blah blah. Every time you do this you prove you're an agitation shill.

I hope someone doxes the "no ivan" schizo one day.

no, they were obviously planned genocides, and if genghis khan happened 80 years ago, he would still be villified in the same ballpark as hitler, but because it happened 800 years ago, people largely dont give a shit anymore

Just wait until you figure out multiple people call you out.

again. antisemitism is punishable with prison time in russia and in my country.
i didn't post anything antisemitc in this thread because i don't hate jews.
i'm thankfully not russian either.
your derangement leads me to believe that you actually are the ivan. you're probably russian alcoholic hiding from conscription

As retarded as the arguments for Churchill being more evil than Hitler are, I I can at least concede that he was no saint, but how do people possibly argue Roosevelt? He literally dindu nuffin.

But what's wrong with them being called Nazis?

You have schizophrenia.

goons are named Goering and Goebbels

Pol Pot was extraordinarily efficient. To genocide 25% of your country in 4 years is ridiculous.

Julius and Genghis were pre-Enlightenment. Brutality was the only option. There was no feasible alternative at the time. It's like holding a caveman to modern ethical standards. Modern genocides are post-Enlightenment, so they have no excuse. They know genocide is wrong, but do it anyways. Slavery is similar. No one really holds slavery against the founding fathers, because it was the norm back then. But it's unacceptable now. There's also the fact that warlords like Caesar and Genghis actually built centuries-spanning empires out of their conquests, so they were somewhat productive. While guys like Hitler failed and achieved nothing but senseless death. People say "history is written by the victors" like it's some sort of gotcha

comrade pls do not be of recognize russian agitation shill

his secretary was a known to be a bore

named Bore Man

you're probably russian alcoholic hiding from conscription

Shouldn't he be on Anon Babble then rather than an already chud-ified board?

do schizos really have to make sense?

how do people possibly argue Roosevelt?

You may realise that he is not naming leaders he actually think are worse tha. Hitler but rather leaders that defeated nazi germany

Sneedler.

retards still believe in le holobunga in the current year

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be quiet ivan

because he was

He literally dindu nuffin.

The Japanese internment camps. Obviously not on the scale of the Holocaust, or even Churchill's famine, but still the same crime, which adds a layer of hypocrisy to the US's moralizing over Germany. These retards also might be mistakenly conflating FDR with Truman (Mr. Hiroshima & Nagasaki)

Mao was less evil

Lol, read a history book.

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Roosevelt funded and supported Stalin and the entire USSR's war effort and subsequent genocidal policies against its subjects, and was generally one of the biggest pushers for starting another world war. He has the blood of millions on his hands.
The allies did not win the war by being nicer or less destructive than the Germans. Roosevelt et al were objectively "more evil" than Hitler could have ever hoped to be.

false flagging

He's up there but far from the most. He's neither functional or smart enough. J Stals has got him beat there and Joe actually personally shot tons of people unlike A-Dawg.

No one really holds slavery against the founding fathers, because it was the norm back then

Not really. No white country had slaves at the time

holocaust

tons of evidence

That's a great joke

No Ivan he didn't support genocide. No Ivan Hitler invading other countries isn't Roosevelt starting a world war.

No white country had slaves at the time

They used slaves in their colonies (and the America was a colony).

Are you retarded? European countries were still committing ethnic atrocities over a century after the American Revolution (ex. Belgian Congo). I swear Eurofags are retarded

Yes Ivan we know this is another pol influence campaign thread. No Ivan defeating Hitler doesn't make Roosevelt bad.

Why would "ivan" call the USSR genocidal? You genuinely have schizophrenia and should get checked out by a doctor.

true retarding

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The average brown and black person.

No Ivan defeating Hitler doesn't make Roosevelt bad.

was for

Yawn

Stalin, Mao, Genghis, Netenyahu

w-why would pol agitation shill try to destigmatize Hitler

You aren't smart enough to post here.

schizophrenia

thread starts with

WEREN'T WE TOO JUDGEMENTAL OF ADOLF HITLER

yeah now post that on any other forum where you aren't anonymous, mein jugenfreund

There's no such thing as being too dumb to post on Anon Babble

The West poured money into because they saw it's impoverishment and punishment after WW1 as one of the reasons WW2 happened.

lol you really are too dumb to shill here. You a new hire?

the schizo really think that people are paid to post here

lel

if that is how you read and interpreted that you are a moron

This is probably the best moment in history to attempt it

Even if that were true, he died eighty years ago. You could have been born, lived your whole life and died since he died. My grandparents were kids when he died, and they died in their 80s and 90s. They might as well be making these documentaries about Napoleon. Fucking enough already. Are people still going to be jerking off to Hitler in the year 10000?

Top 3
1. Pol Pot
2. Donald Trump
3. Jack Kerouac

name a ww2 american, brit or french equivalent to dirle

If jews are still in charge, yes. They'll be pushing "muh holocaust" until people realize they're the biggest grifters in history.

everyone forgets about Shiro Ishii, the head of Imperial Japan's fucked up shit complexes like Unit 731

My favorite story about Mao during the Chinese Civil War was how he used the entire population of a city as battle fodder. The city was occupied by the nationalists and they let the elderly, women, and children leave because Mao was going to lay siege. However, Mao ordered his men to open fire on them when they came close to the line which effectively trapped them in no man's land. They couldn't get back into the city and Mao wouldn't let them pass so they were basically stuck in an open field for weeks dying of exposure and starving to death. When the time came to push on the city Mao made the civilians that had somehow survived march in front of his troops as human shields.

stop believing all this shitty propaganda that Hitler was evil and wanted to genocide the lesser races! it's all history written by the victors!

well, what would Hitler have done if he won?

he would have exterminated the jews and the niggers and the gays and all the other undesirables and present it as a good thing! but the point is that the Allies were bad!

Hitler tried to peaceful send the Jews in Germany to Palestine. The entire thing was agreed upon and it was England that stopped it.

but still the same crime

That’s an exaggeration. By all accounts, the treatment of Japanese Americans detained in internment camps was very humane, and the rationale behind it came from a place of ignorance rather than ill will. Was it wrong? Yes, but it’s a far cry from the sins committed by every other WW2 head of state at the time.

Yes Ivan we know this is a poltard thread.

read up on the holocaust gene chuds, every jew born after the holocaust has inherited the trauma and will carry it for the rest of its life and its children and its childrens' children will have to bear the same burden

No one can compared but a bunch of Canadians burned down a city because they thought a civilian had shot one of their commanders. They made (or let) the civilians exit the buildings before there razed them though.

pls comrade do not recognize obvious protected influence campaign

I see this same story pop up throughout history more or less every time there's a siege. It will be framed as based or evil depending on whether ceasar or the brits did it

If WW2 never happened how would he be remembered?

Yes, a theory created by a jew. Wow, shocking.

Love that you keep outing yourself as IDF.

I see this same story pop up throughout history more or less every time there's a siege

I'll bet you can't name 3.

It will be framed as based or evil

No, it was just evil.

The western allies didn’t know the Holocaust was going on until nearly the end of Nazi Germany. They didn’t go to war with the Nazis to save Jews

nazisisters.....Anon Babble lied to us.......

Would he still have committed a genocide of kikes strictly within German borders? If so, like Stalin. A ruthless, charismatic, somewhat cooky dictator and capable statesman who's responsible of some of the worst atrocities of the century

Happened so long ago. Same with Jack the Ripper.

which only makes it more legitimate since jews are known for their intelligence and their contributions in various scientific fields

impotent, nutless tranny rage

Lendleasing an enemy of your enemy does not make you guilty of their atrocities. If Roosevelt hadn’t bankrolled the Soviets, Hitler would have rolled over them and made continuing the fight for Europe impossibly harder.

impotent, nutless tranny

so, the average neonazi?

IDF

Not a single thought, just a dumb russian following a script.

The powers that be did

tranny

Russian shills are unbelievably easy to spot.

Bomber Harris
Enola Gay
Easy

Nate and Yahoo is quickly rising on the lists.

So yes the holocaust was real and not made up by da joos afterwards.
The low iq of pol strikes again.

still coping

You lost, try again next time.

I'll bet you can't name 3

Alesia
Château Gaillard
Rouen

He does like braveheart. Why lie?

you can call me whatever want but this chink slant eyed nigga is terror itself, horror

lol, they did it to save jewish power. I didn't say anything about your hoax.

I don't see a single incidence of intentionally trapping 30,000 people between lines for months on end and subsequently using them as human shields, anon.

So basically jews and anglo boomers

Can't believe nobody has mentioned Caligula

You literally said they knew the holocaust was happening. Another poltard fail.

You misunderstood me. I said they invaded to save jews. It was a reference to the second phrase.

enabling a regime's atrocities doesn't make you culpable for their atrocities.

lol

If Roosevelt hadn’t bankrolled the Soviets, Hitler would have rolled over them

Yeah, and precluded the atrocities and genocide. But defeating Germany was more important, as I'm sure you agree.

Nope. I understand just fine, you got caught in a paradox of the misinformation you shilling retards spam.

But not the Soviet genocides?

defeating Germany was more important

Definitely not

if you can't tell the difference between men with swords coming to your town and setting everything on fire, and your local baker calling the police who grabs you at 6AM and takes you to be shot in the back of the head, then I don't know what to tell you.

lmao
At least you know when you're at your intellectual limit

Because people are (or at least should be) judged by the standards of their era. There’s nothing more cringe than trying to apply modern sensibilities to ancient figures. Genghis and Julius were literally humanitarians who held progressive ideals for their time.

there were already credible reports by 1943, including eyewitness reports from people who escaped places like auschwitz, that germany was murdering jews and other people on a large scale.

the allies knew what was going on long before they stepped foot into germany

retard.exe has stopped working

Damn jeets fucked up the code again.
Hey! Somebody get the white guy in here to fix the bots!

How much does it cost now to keep up off topic threads?

1943

Yeah and?

reminder that 95% of all lend-lease cargo only arrived after the soviets already turned the tide in front of moscow.

germany wouldve lost against russia, even without american aid, regardless, it just wouldve taken a few years longer.

I guess Mao was just more impatient and didn't wait for the 30,000 to all die of starvation before making his move but I don't think that makes much of a difference at all. It's just what happens time and time again with siege warfare

NOOO COMRADE DO NOT DEMONSTRATE THAT WE ARE SCRIPTED AGITATION SHILLS NOOO

The USSR committed genocide against its German popular during and after the war. It also killed millions of others in its prison and work camp system. None of that could have happened had the allies, particularly the US, not saved the USSR from defeat by Germany.

Definitely not

Well the allies disagreed. So here we are.

THE RUSSIAN BOOGEYMEN ARE HIDING UNDER MY BED! MOMMY I NEED MY BLANKIE

Mengele worst Nazi without a doubt.

It fucking sucks that we only got Pt 1 of the Genghis Khan trilogy.

you russian faggots always fall apart.

credible reports

including eyewitness reports from people who escaped places like auschwitz, that germany was murdering jews and other people on a large scale.

Very credible indeed.

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The Allies wouldn’t have been able to invade Europe if the Soviets weren’t preoccupying them. It’s not the Allies fault that both Hitler and Stalin were cunts, and they were always distrustful of Stalin despite lending him assistance in the war against Nazi Germany. They simply recognized the reality that defeating Hitler would not be possible without the Soviets help.

Who's the one crying about the imaginary voices in their head again?

The Allies wouldn’t have been able to invade Europe if the Soviets weren’t preoccupying them.

They simply recognized the reality that defeating Hitler would not be possible without the Soviets help.

Yeah, I know. What's your point?

It’s not the Allies fault that both Hitler and Stalin were cunts

Hitler wasn't a "cunt." Stalin certainly was, though, and his cuntiness was wholly enabled and supported by the western allies. Unlike Hitler, who would have put a stop to Stalin.

germany had a permanent contingent of over 300.000 people stationed in france, now ofcourse that was for security against britain as well, but keeping garrison in a hostile country just takes a lot of resources and manpower.

even in an ideal scenario where the soviet union just collapsed, the size of russia up to the ural mountains is already 15x larger than france. they would've needed millions of soldiers to even administer, secure and garison the place. even a victory wouldve bled the german war effort dry and eventually allowed the allies to poke into europe on weaker fronts.

the idea that european russia would somehow be able to sustain or even fuel the german war effort is an absolute fantasy, it wouldve taken years for any economic benefit to take effect and be a massive resource drain before that that would've weakened germany, not made them stronger.

I'm not just referring to that but it seems that they made no difference anyway. People just talk about jews because they're told to.

totally not a bot btw, very organic posts saar

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For every one of these posts there's 20 agitprop threads.

Dont feed the trolls

Larry Fink
Lev Bronstein
Genrikh Yagoda
Jonathan Greenblatt

by 1943

Yeah, way after it started and long after Germany declared war on America.
Churchill had a few discarded letters in his desk on it. He did not care about the dead Jews

First off, the Soviets rebuffing the Nazis near Moscow and at Stalingrad did not mean they would have been able to pull off the subsequent successful counter offensives without the continued support coming in from the allies. Second, the allies miscalculated the bare necessity of aid that Stalin needed to keep fighting the Nazis and accidentally helped him become a bit too successful at pushing them back. Oops it happens, everyone makes mistakes.

300k stationed in France vs nearly 3 million Germans fighting on the eastern front at the time the D-Day invasions happened. If the Soviets had completely collapsed, they would not have needed anywhere near that number to effectively occupy the administrative districts of the USSR.

only now with the benefit of hindsight do we know that stalin was a piece of shit and commie russia just another totalitarian power.
but back in 1943 the western allies still believed the soviets could be bargained with and integrated into a new, just and free international order after defeating nazi germany.

stalin even promised to keep free and fair elections during yalta and potsdam, and the atrocities inside his own country were not that well known at the time. in 1943, nobody couldve known that the commies were working behind the scenes to set up puppet governments in most of eastern europe.

so with the information available at that time, it was a good idea to give as much aid as possible to the soviets in order to defeat germany. this wasnt some 5D chess game for the future of humanity, it was just simple wartime calculation. more support for russia means less dead americans when we finally come back to france

There are plenty of serial killers who tortured and murdered people basically just for fun. I'd consider that more evil, regardless of the kill count. Intentions matter.

No, even before the end of the war, the Allies had already become weary of the Soviets and raced to reach Berlin before they could. The Cold War effectively started before Germany and Japan had even surrendered.

still, the full extend of soviet treachery wasnt known yet at that time. and during 1942 when germany makes a push into the caucasus, there was no regard for how material support to the soviets might play out 5 years from now in the grand scheme of the war, they just sent as much support as they could in order to stop the germans