So, what was this?

Some of the earliest plans for a mobile, planet-destroying superweapon dated back millennia to the ancient Sith. Thousands of years later, shortly before the outbreak of the Clone Wars, the Geonosians, aligned with Count Dooku and the Confederacy of Independent Systems, designed the Ultimate Weapon in secret. After the fall of the Confederacy, construction of the Death Star was appropriated by the nascent Empire. It was built in orbit of Geonosis and supported by a complex logistical network of bases. The station, which took many years longer to complete than expected, was eventually moved from Geonosis to Scarif in its final stages of construction.

Do you know how big and dense that thing is? Even if the outer skeleton is done, by no means does that equate to close to finished. There’s still a lot of internals that have to be done on top of the actual weapon.

whyd they build the 2nd one so fast

First one was being made in secret, second one wasn't.

made a mould from the first one.

institutional knowledge after making the first one

A Star Wars manchild shitting up the catalog.

I have almost 20 SW threads hidden right now. It's out of control

They’re children’s movies. Try not to pick them apart too much.

dude what was Oscar the Grouch’s motivation for being rude to Elmo?

That’s what you all sound like.

I always assumed they were building more than one desu. If you want this shit to work like an assembly line then it makes sense that once you have enough of Part 1 to build the first death star you don't move Team A on to making Part 2. They keep Team A making Part 1 (because you need it for the next DS and they're good at assembling it) and you have Team B work on Part 2.

no you can't speak about your favourite films here!

British spelling

Likes Star Wars

Double whammy

Salt

Lol we don't even need flags
Agreed

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Legal issues slowed its development and it got bogged down in red tap. It should have taken only 2 years tops

The concept of a death star is pretty dumb when you already have orbital ion canons that can put dents into your planet the size of cities.

using le catalog

You have to go back.

The concept of the Tsar Bomb is pretty dumb when we (as a species) had nuclear bombs 1/1000th in strength that can flatten a city center, but the Soviets built one anyways. USA had some sort of Project Sundial thing to build a nuke so big it would create nuclear winter and kill everyone, just a one-and-done apocalypse weapon, but some amount of sanity prevented it from being constructed.

If Star Wars has LOIC that can dent a city though, such an impact would probably at least cause some kind of massive effect on food and sun for a planet like a massive atom bomb, but it's always been about what seems cool not what makes sense.

The Death Star Prototype.
starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Death_Star_prototype

it blew up 2: the rogue one planet + alderaan

Planets in Star Wars often have orbital shields and defenses. The Death Star can just blast through all of that in one shot.

that was a single reactor ignition, dummy

The original EU lore around the Death Star was much, much better.

It didn't blow up any planets in Rogue One. Those were single reactor ignitions that only destroyed the city on Jedda and the tower on Scarif. The laser later hit the ocean and caused a shock wave but didn't blow up the planet.

fuck you are right, I haven't played halo reach- I mean watched rogue one in a while

I'm watching Solo right now.. not gonna make a thread

Btw in the original EU lore the Death Star superlaser was created by a blue-skinned autistic alien cutie who thought it was made for peaceful purposes.

why'd they pussy out of destroying the entire planet? was there some line in a new hope where blasting alderaan was its inaguration?

They were building Death Star II way before they blew up the first one in ANH.

Death Star superlaser

peaceful purposes

What was she thinking?

She's autistic and innocent, she just believes what they tell her.

They wanted a big show of force to show the entire galaxy that being a rebel sympathizer is bad for your planets health.
Alderaan was a power/wealthy planet with a leader who was a known rebel leader so blowing his shit up made a statement where blowing up some dirt heap planet was a nothingburger.

it was just a test. it's for the same reason you don't uh i can't think of an analogy/whatever

They outsourced construction and cut some corners

well nukes had a peaceful effect irl

she thought it was used for cracking open lifeless planets for their resources

they needed a statement, not a manifesto

the DS eclipsing the sun when it fires is fucking kino

What became of her? was she neutralized by Vader afterwards (like half of new characters introduced between ROS and ANH)

why's it upside down? did the director even watch Star wars?

the death star pilot wanted a trick shot

She married Wedge Antilles and they had kids.

based wedge

took 20 years to build a complete death star

took ~5 years to build half a death star

How long would it take to build infinity Star Destroyers with Death Star cannons on them?

not long. you just need to exploit the "infinite production" glitch

The first one was built by low-IQ brow communist insects, the second was built by white males.

Star Forge

Define "up" in space.

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quoting the show word for word

kek

touché

The superlaser took the longest to perfect, the station itself was assembled relatively quickly.

Contract disputes
Worker shortages
Software development bugs
Electrical system issues
Suppliers going out of business
It will all be explored in Episode III.5: A New Project Manager when Lucas regains control of Star Wars.

i know how disney can save star wars: Death Star 3

Actually the opposite is true, which is why the first one needed a miraculous act with the help of the force to be destroyed while the second was destroyed because some teddy bears with spears and slingshots fucked some shit up in a moon somewhere.

A miniature

has the trouble with the empire been explained in any of the movies or shows or even comics?
because it looks to me like they are just trying to run the trains on time and the rebels keep fucking with them because theyre assmad about their aristocracy being dismantled.

The point of the death star is that it is such an overwhelmingly disproportionate response that rebel groups will actively turn on each other to avoid having their planet destroyed.

But that only works if the Death Star is active BEFORE they have something like a Rebel Alliance. After that it makes it imperative that they all work together.

If it had some out in Andor season one times, then that's what would happen, they'd all be turning on each other.

complaining about yet another thread

Grow up

What part of keeping the trains running on time involves using slave labor and stolen resources to build battle stations you immediately use to destroy peaceful planets?

what was Palpatine's endgame with the empire

Actually you’re wrong, the reason the second was an easier task was because it wasn’t finished

Why is everyone in the death star standing up perpendicular to the direction its gravity would be pointing (the center of the Death Star)? Secondly why would need a guard rail when its gravity would be so weak you could fall from great heights and be okay.

None of Disney SW is the canon. What Lucas did in 6 episodes didn't account for what retards from NuLF will create in 10-15 years.

Crashing it - with no survivors.

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Absolute sexball

Unlimited power

looks closed to finished

is literally just an outline

yeah but it seems like a year or two away not 20

all im saying is everywhere the story takes us they seem to be doing just fine for themselves. the empire doesnt want to change anything they just want to be in charge. let them

Spaceball.

EU books had a prototype frame come out from its hidden base later on. Books were published before the prequels.

Captcha: DARTH

After the fall of the Confederacy, construction of the Death Star was appropriated by the nascent Empire.

Why does this make it sound like it wasn't all run by Palpatine all along?

was eventually moved from Geonosis to Scarif in its final stages of construction.

Weird. It doesn't say in Rogue One that the DS is going BACK to Scarif.

t. has never worked on a public infrastructure project

Sith=Romans.

Full power blast is very high energy expense.

Fallen Jedi #210730386 wiped her brain clean of all the superweapon stuff shortly before he yanked out the Gay Crusher from Yavin and rampaged through the Empire.

I appreciate that it acknowledges that just because everyone inside the DS is aligned one way up, doesn't mean the part of the planet they're targeting is the same way up.

It's explained in one of the books that Krennic rushed it to this stage in an attempt to impress Palpatine and Vader, so the Death Star Project wasn't handed over to Tarkin's control, so he had to dismantle and reassemble other parts like the Dish later on.

mad but also excited because
1. A force user had a hand in it which means a new target to corrupt
2. He was incredibly bored ruling the empire so this really shake things up

Possibly to ensure the galaxy was strong enough to fight off extra-galactic invasion.

Lucas being a hack.

The thing I hate most about Rogue One is that the weakness of the Death Star was deliberately made rather than an minor oversight of the bureaucratic machine and hubris that is the Empire. In fact, watching Andor makes this an even greater dissonance.

That's because people complained about it so the writers felt the need to explain to the dumb fucks known as the audience why the death star has such a big weak point

Why does it even have to be deliberately or oversight? Why can't it just be part of the death stars design as part of the cooling system

Why can't it just be part of the death stars design as part of the cooling system

Anon, that is LITERALLY an oversight if the cost of making the cooling system work includes a vulnerability that a single star fighter can cause the entire thing to explode in a chain reaction.

It's not possible though. The station has a bajillion turbolasers that can and did shoot down every single rebel fighter. It also has a million TIE fighters that do the same. It was only extra thick plot armor that made Tarkin not send out more defenders and somehow not shoot down the Falcon. Literally no one else in the galaxy could have made the one in a billion shot. Not bad for a design and was well defended.

An oversight means they weren't aware of it, if it's part of the design then it's not an oversight and may in fact be needed to function.

Take a nuclear power plant, the one that's cooled down by water. Those plant have a feeding pipe where all the water enters, now it's fully possibly for these feeding pipe to get blocked by debrief or other material (like jellyfish which happened in Sweden once). Is that an oversight?

That exhaust port wasn't even easy to access, you had to get through all type of structure that was in the way along with the guard tower.

Thanks for taking the time to clarify. I get your point now. Honestly, I'd probably prefer what you said too over "Galen Erso intentionally put in a design flaw" in and that the exhaust port was a negligible problem because it required someone with actual magical powers to squarely hit it like the other anon said.

And by explained you mean haphazardly and sloppily thrown together after the fact.

Can't it be a minor oversight of the bureaucratic machine that one man was able to put in a catastrophic flaw that nobody else picked up on?

My pleasure, I also dislike the Rogue One retcon and I dislike Rogue one even more for getting rid of Kyle Katarn

I like Andor, and how it leads into Rogue One, which I also like, and the direct link to ANH…

…but retconning dark forces will never be forgiven

From that scene in RoTS?
Yeah, but I don't think the writer did a bad job trying to explain this scene and how it ties in with the general progress of the Death Star and the character involved