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Live and let live!

I just finished watching it don't tell me you fags are dead already

*PSST* hey, you wanna baby? I gotsa baby. 200 dollars, good baby, you'll like it. Happy family, happy life. Raise a baby. I got lotsa good shit *opens coat, baby is securely strapped with upper inside straps so the audience can see*. Toothpaste, razor blades, passports, watches. Baby. I get formula sometime. Buy the baby, nice baby! Come back and get some formula sometime. C'mon 200 bux, cash only. Legal baby.

Andor needs to fight the sith

I want to know what the next Anon Babble kino is going to be. What's looking good in the next year or two?

Spearheads Star Wars movies iconic revival

Produces an entire universe of novels, comic books and video games

Directly created the best Star Wars TV shows and best TV shows in general, including Andor

Is responsible for most Star Wars content we've received since end of prequel trilogy flops

Why do men hate her?

Iron heart

So? Blame the civilians for overmining it. No need to draw attention to a useless planet for no reason at all. Also, how many more energy sources are needed for the DS? Kyber here, reactor there, now spider minerals.
Would have been a stronger plot if they set it on Jedha with the Whills insurgents and the kybers which would warrant ISB interference to keep it somewhat secretive. would have been a cleaner segue if Luthen managed to set up the Galen-pilot link with Saw. Now we have a redundant plot and informants.
why does Cassian have to meet up with the guy that helped him rescue the girl only to remind him of the DS project

to the guy who says sw needs less focus and more world building:
So we got french white people planet with Bomarr spiders. wow. And Yavin IV. and random unfinished origin story of Luthen

Sylvestro Estalone

What is Alderaan?

The whole plot of Star Wars is that the Empire made a weapon to destroy planets mindlessly.

I can see them releasing mini series to try & unfuck the st

It’s offensive and suggestive to have Andor have a kid. As if it’s okay he dies because he had a kid! That’s not how the world works, but it shows the twisted and backward values of the show’s creators.

I picked up Foundation again after the Season 3 trailer features The Illusive Man from Mass Effect and The Halo 2 Drop Ship trailer sequence.

they clearly gave andor a kid to leave potential future shows a possibility. though im getting a bit tired of shows set in OT universe

I literally explained Alderaan.
And no, it was a weapon to threaten. Just like Nukes today. Shoot it once to prove a point, afterwards you wont need it again.
The US defoliated Vietnam and despite abandoning the war, it finalised their position as OP military in the world.

Stop with your headcanon

Just watched Rogue One again. A pretty good 7/10 movie but the difference in quality is a bit jarring going from Andor. Palmo and that other guy are still cunts though.

Durrr we supported a rebel alliance to peacefully protest, thinking of fighting is insane!

We must now surrender to someone who has never shown mercy!

Never understood the point of those two characters, people like that wouldn't have made it to the leadership table of an armed rebellion in the first place .

Alderaan was about making a point, showing people they could do it. Plus Organa.

Lmao love that scene. Space CIA conducting an accident and disposal of a rebel element to cover up his death during interrogation and make sure the rebels don't get wise. Fuck, they were so competent in S1.

Lonni Jong
Lio Partagaz
Dedra Meero
OUR HEROES

The Empire is lead by an evil wizard that uses dark magic. He just wants to destroy things because he is evil. Stop thinking this franchise is politically deep.

luthen stabbed himself, like what the fuck man
hardcore till the end

I always assumed tarkin made the call, not the emperor. Im not sure what that nigger really does other than brood.

I think the only way people like that get a seat at the table is if the group is desperate, needs resources, and they have them. That does happen. People like that are almost always pains in the ass and you usually pay hard for the resources they bring.

That guy from Chernobyl
That guy from Game of Thrones
That chick from Andor

Tarkin was influenced by the dark magic. Every time a person that works for the Empire does something evil is because of dark magic

Is it just me or is the space battle the only good part about R1?

Most jarring part is going from zero goofy CGI aliens to wall-to-wall Glup Shitto

I also like to see Vader killing rebels

Oh yeah I forgot to add that the Tarkin CGI was really dated. Maybe in the future they'll release a despecialized version of the movie without the face CGI.

Why didn't they just cast Charles Dance instead of doing a shitty CGI Tarkin

They should make an Andor cut and release it as a finale movie

Andy Serkis says he is returning as Kino in season 2

Kino never appears but it's implied he's near Dedra on Narkina

You could say it was... kino

Watching Rogue One I'm realizing how much it feels like a fucking TV show

its refreshing to watch terrorist kleya after we've mostly seen radio operator kleya

gains 100 pounds in 24 hours

The empire outlawing Ozempic was the final straw...

why did critical drinker shill this so hard? did they pay him or is he actually retarded?

AI fan edits are going to fix all of that and mark my words it will make the prequels about twice as good as they are when all the CGI gets drastically touched up.

Because he knows he wont be able to grift with plausible deniability if he says a show is shit that 99% of people like.

Pivot. Turns out shilling to right wing tards is not longer as profitable.

But seriously, we cannot let Trump get the nuclear codes.

I *liked* the French people planet. It was a marvelous piece of worldbuilding. Fight me.

An angry faggot typed this.

Would have been a stronger plot if they set it on Jedha

Exactly what we need, more Star Wars happening in one-biome desert shitholes instead of any of the bazillion planets available.

I'm about to watch rogue one, will there be more scenes of those dumb fucking senators? I'll give Bail and Mon the pass because of bias but that bitch and the French looking fuck was annoying, the blue kalamari nigga was cool though

And he lost a lot of hair too

Bunnyfu is an absolute non-character, and the movie pretends she's more important than Andor who was built up by the show, it's more grating than it was before Andor

star trek

I missed these niggas, why weren't they in Andor?
BRAVO VINCE doing a show with BETTER RIM KIM

mads was a way better character than bunnyfu. andor makes bunnyfu into a complete mary-su because she goes to the front of the rebellion just because her dad was a engineer and Saw kept her safe.

Battle of Sacriff alone made R1 worth watching.

For me, I think it's the really awful soundtrack that ruins Rogue One

Avatar: Fire and Ash

No Senate scenes in Rogue One. By the time of Rogue One and ANH the Senate exists in name only

its not that bad but its just offbrand john williams

Because shitting on it for the sake of shitting on it loses your credibility as critic. See Star Wars Theory. He's a laughing stock in the Star Wars community now and can never recover from this. All his opinions got a "certified shit" stamp on them now

heres the thing, star wars has been bad so long that an entire industry of youtubers has made a massive living shitting on anything bad(everything) so when a good star wars show comes along, they are too invested monetarily to shit on it than sing praise of it.

his star wars fan films are cringe kino, though

oops, this was for

Also, how many more energy sources are needed for the DS? Kyber here, reactor there, now spider minerals.

Isn't the whole point to this is Galen is just making believable bullshit up to get krennic swamped with work to delay the death star and put in the weakpoint

Death Star Saga

Andor

R1

ANH

Now, how about Death Star II saga

TFA, Rogue One, Andor, every new piece of SW media makes ROTJ and Death Star II look dumber and dumber.

throw Lucas story treatment for the sequels in the fucking trash

started a trilogy of movies with no fucking plan, just making shit up along the way

let Ryan johnson outright scrap everything that jar jar Abrams did in episode 7

then get jar jar Abrams again for the final movie and he had to pull shit out of his ass thanks to jonhson

sign up two directors known for comedy movies and be shocked they turned your han solo movie into a comedy

fire them and get Ron Howard to basically make the movie from scratch

movie fucking bombs killing the idea for yearly stars wars movies

ruin the mandalorian by backpedaling the ending of season 2 because you don't want to lose baby Yoda merchandise sales

approves the shitty Indiana jones movie

ACOLYTE

Kathleen isn't good at her job

Bratt is so much more charismatic than Smits.

no insanely cute shota hot boys in andor?

i didnt realize this tard made fan films, wtf was this nigga doing. was he just banking in on that one really successful fan film way back and throwing his hat in the ring

Bothans are ugly, even their women are unfuckable, no one's making a movie/show about them

Kwab team

Jyn Erso is such a horrible character, watching Andor then Rogue One makes her look annoying pointless Mary Sue who exists solely for Cassian to have eye candy (her ass) before he dies.

Even if you look at it from a monetary perspective, praising Andor doesn't hurt because you know the next Star Wars project is going to be shit again, so you just have a new measurement stick to shit on it and even get some new fans to agree with you that did not previously realize that Star Wars can be good

did they stop with just one atomic bomb at los alamos?

did they stop with just one aircraft carrier? just one b-2 stealth bomber?

why stop at one death star? especially since the R&D is the longest part. you have the knowledge, supply chains, and tooling now, they built the 2nd one bigger but still faster. economy of scale still works

Say what you want about Critical Nigger, but he has his finger on the pulse and knows when to back off the grift. Star Wars Theory is genuinely a dumbass and not smart enough to be a grifter, which is why he is getting clowned on right now.

We just need one more Death Star that shoots through time and space to fix the sequel problem for good

To be fair DS 2 was always dumb. ROTS teasing the Death Star already made DS2 dumb and DS2 is a stupid concept in general. Lucas should have really figured out a different conflict for the final movie

But imagine if he was jedi instead! He would have pulled a lighsaber and a do an epic flip while slicing imperials

They haven't finalized the look of Bothans in the canon

His reverence when he spoke of seeing the Emperor was pretty cool

I forgot how much of a bitch Krennic is in Rogue One. It was nice seeing him bully low level imperials as opposed to R1 where he is constantly shit on by superiors.

The only dumb thing about it is not fixing its weak point.

Jyn was a pointless Mary Sue even before the series and before Gilroy came she probably was worse. Unfortunately that was how female characters were written back then. Still she is way more bearable than Rey

Shouldn't it be Jeddah? The other planet they reference alongside Ghorman that had a resource (Kyber Crystals) which were needed for the Death Star. And Luthen is carrying around a Sky Kyber Crystal.

What's funny is that Krennic was the only Imperial to know about that, so Tarkin killing him ruined any chances of that being found out, assuming they didn't find out about it after it was blown up.

Michael giachino is an overrated hack

Don't they even have spears in the movie? As if sitting on a crow's nest but in the jungle wasn't already retarded, they also have a spear that barely fits in there with them

british brunette mary sue with a fat ass

Qi'ra, Rey, Jyn, does Kathleen Kennedy have a type?

Even if they knew about it. DS2 must have been created alongside DS1 for it to make ANY sense to exist and that's why the weak point must exist even if they knew about it

pretty much

galen knows krennic has everything he needs to finish. so he inserted himself into every part of the construction to make him look less expendable as well as make delay/make sure his sabotage was covered and perfect

but the other anon is wrong, it's not all energy sources. the kyber is for the energy. the kalkite is to coat the reactor lenses. it's a small moon sized station you need insane raw minerals for it. they strip mine tons of barren planets for metal but ghorman is populated, so stripping the entire planet bare with or without the false flag is something the empire simply cannot hide and say it's for the emperor's "energy project." especially if the planet does collapse

It was kind of obvious. I wanted her and Cyril to get a bittersweet ending.

young bix series starring jenna ortega

DS2 didn't start until after DS1 was blown up/fully completed (it overlaps since it's blown up days later kek)

they did fix the weak point. instead of a a giant exhaust port, it had dozens of mini ports spread throughout the station that were super tiny and you couldn't shoot anything down it. it didn't matter since the station wasn't fully complete yet and sheev got overconfident, so the rebels just flew straight into the super structure

Cameo appearance from young Shin Hati played by Emma Snood Myers.

i thought for sure before the arc, she'd be rewarded and get a promotional posting on the death star kek and look out the window smiling

It can't be over

Nah, they made the guy who was anticipating to wake up every morning with a blaster pressed into his cheek and wouldn't be taken alive, an incompetent idiot who didn't have a way out other than some shitty knife that just happened to be around
It could have been kino, it just needed to be something like this

Dedra and Luthen talk like they did in the show

she actually brought an agent trained in capturing VIPs alive, especially those that can self-terminate

Luthen knows that the jig as up and activates the hidden switch in of the relic pedestals, it doesn't do anything, implying it's a bomb that had been disabled

then some kind of EMP gadget or detonator goes off, disabling his tooth activated suicide implant (those are canon aparently)

Luthen bites on his tooth and it's useless

the agent rushes in and jams a mouthgard into his mouth, which secures in place and cannot be removed

Luthen shoves him off and takes cover

he still has some tricks up his sleeve in the antique shop so he manages to fend off the agent for a short while

he scrambles around and finds the dagger

with no options left, he stabs himself with it, but the agent/med team stabilize him, and the show carries on as it did

>she actually brought an agent trained in capturing VIPs alive, especially those that can self-terminate

... Why?

>she actually brought an agent trained in capturing VIPs alive, especially those that can self-terminate

>Luthen knows that the jig as up and activates the hidden switch in of the relic pedestals, it doesn't do anything, implying it's a bomb that had been disabled

stopped here. that's fucking retarded.

Remember when Luthen's ship had red lightsabers

Right, it's better to just make him retarded like the hack writers did.
Because he's the type of person who wouldn't be taken alive under any circumstances. Surely Dedra would understand that.

Luthen's death was retarded. Here's how you make it kino:

Daedra sneaks into his shop

Places a banana peel behind him

He slips on it

Hits his head on a nearby display

An antique anvil falls off of the display and crushes his skull

Does anyone know how they shit while they're up there? Is it ever mentioned in the novels explicitly by George Lucas that these guys shit off the side?

I wish they'd included a scene where someone kills Admiral Holdo in 1 BBY

Only works if Yakety Sax is playing and gets louder each time a suicide attempt fails.

You will die for this cause without ever knowing your child because I decided so

Stupid fucking fat ass latina bitch

I hated the Luthen flashbacks. Same boring TLoU cliches

Why didn't he just set up his shop like the hallway from Resident Evil?

Stupid fucking fat ass latina bitch what a dumb whore she should be punished by being forced to put her fat ass on my face

I hated the one time the show explained Luthen and Kleya's relationship

giving us context for why Kleya had no reservations killing her father figure is just like TLoU

actual mouthbreather

the rehearsal season 2 has been pure kino to me so far.
Pretty sure I've felt the entire spectrum of emotions while watching it so far.

Dedra stops Luthen

He cackles and reveals his true form, a Nightsister of the planet Dathomir

General Grievious bursts from the ground and kills him

So same result

Was Luthen a Sith?

What's he thinking right now?

Bix was by far the worst character in the series. Barely even a character. Yet she stole so much of the screentime. And the ending was absolute cliché garbage. What was the point of making her badass
rebel, who tortures Gorst, and overcomes her trauma, only to turn her into a useless sobbing pregnant housewife? And then she goes "yeah, we need to win, and by *we* I mean *you*. Good luck, faggot, I am gonna to chill in peace while you struggle and suffer and fight a war." And then she comes back to the rape planet. Epic, simply epic. She should have been killed and given cassian the final commitment for the cause. She is irrelevant for R1. Cassian did not need a kid. Shit is so bad. All of those OCs are alive and just chilling.

I don't care. I just love to shit on him. Every era needs something or someone to be shit on. When there's no shitty Star Wars to shit on, then we can shit on shitty Star Wars Tubers

Frustration over popular opinion being that Andor is good while all the other nu SW content is pretty terrible

i imagine the floor that they are standing on up there is an elevator they can just take down when they need to

I can't believe you retards like this garbage

Mon Mothma doesn't mention Jedi genocide....in her speech about genocide

Mon Mothma has to pimp her daughter out to fund the rebellion. Leia in a ANH said it better "The tighter you squeeze the more systems slip through your fingers". She didn't say "If you're not careful my daddy Bail Organa will marry me off to Jabba the Hutt's son!"

barely any aliens. Ghorman could have been a colony of Mon Calamari and it would have explained how they joined the rebellion

spider minerals

You can't actually be this retarded, can you?

Why would a good Star Wars show mention the worst Star War properties, the prequels? Better to ignore it.

Andortards are the WORST

"NO LIGHTSABERS IN ANDOR!"

*ignores the absolutely retarded lightsabers on Luthen's ship* (why didn't other ships do this)

"NO FORCE IN ANDOR!"

*is ok with a force healer*

"ANDOR DOESN'T HAVE FAN SERVICE!"

*Star Wars main theme plays at the very end*

Andor

Good

The prequels will be remembered, Andor will be forgotten.

It was mentioned by Mon Mothma in Rebels, but way before that, an RPG book from 1989 that nobody has read, not even people who bought in 1989 like me.

get done with Mk1 after ~10 years

immediately start work on the upgraded MK2, to be finished in 5 years

In principle, this is fine. Like the "Death Star" isn't a single thing, it's a program and was planned to have multiple iterations of battlestations come out of it.
Of course that's not what is implied at all, and it even seems to be contradicted by established lore.

99% of people like.

The amount of viewers is abysmal. 99% of viewers like Thunderbolts.

Why was everyone saying Kino Loy was returning in this season?

I love how every retard youtuber pronounces it Deeeedra, even though characters in the show never do.

I don't know if its accurate but I've seen many claims that the actor said he was returning and/or he was on the casting list. So the presumption if either of those things are true was that it was going to be a closing scene with Dedra in prison, but was cut for one reason or another. Personally it doesn't really tonally fit the show, much less the serious ending.

SAY HIS NAME

Shut up gay

no one cares, everyone hates disney

Golden Grahams Karn

Shut up gay

Your favorite show is shit and is already on the path to being forgotten.

Andor will never be forgotten, it has cemented itself as the absolute peak of Star Wars storytelling in the last 40 years and will be treasured by a generation

Lol faggot the prequels are mocked by everyone other than children

who did they cast as paul on the beatles cinematic universe? seems they fucked up by not casting diego

all thrown under the bus and died as nobodies for the Empire

brutal, grim

Yes. All those fucks are in Rogue One. The first response you got is technically correct that there are no senate scenes but that's not what you asked.

Andor will never be forgotten, it has cemented itself as the absolute peak of Star Wars storytelling in the last 40 years and will be treasured by a generation

Sure thing, Skippy. It was boring and the writing was garbage,

Lol faggot the prequels are mocked by everyone other than children

And Andor will be forgotten. Prequels will be mocked, but remembered.

star wars cucks have to pretend Paul McCartney was part of their shitty fan fiction

It was boring and the writing was garbage

My current favorite point of bitchery from leftists on twitter is that somehow it's bad that they were held accountable for their actions and shouldn't have been even though if they hadn't
Been a spy
Been completely asleep at the wheel making nothing but bad calls
Been an ambitious backstabber who demanded the spotlight
They would have been perfectly fine sitting on their ass in their offices

>It was boring and the writing was garbage

Yeah, those wedding scenes were great. It's good that the universe in a Star Wars show is 99% human despite them going to various planets. And wow, the rebels are just as big of assholes as the Empire now, because "muh complex shades of gray".

go play Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II

If you have a problem with the rebellion being accurate to real life rebellions that's not a problem with the writing it's a problem with you

The prequels will be remembered

They're already forgotten

If you have a problem with the rebellion being accurate to real life rebellions that's not a problem with the writing it's a problem with you

Oh, yeah. Those "real life rebellions" where the funding is gotten by pimping out your daughter to a mobster. And most rebellions aren't organized like Andor. They are thrown together (which is how ANH portrayed it, Leia said "as you squeeze tighter more planets slip through your fingers"). You are fucking delusional if you think this is in any way realistic (not that it has to be, but you said it).

Yeah, those wedding scenes were great

I agree
youtube.com/watch?v=6E7gfpGql7w

in her speech about genocide

The speech was about lies and the dangerous trajectory of the empire under Palpatine's rule. It was in response to the Ghorman genocide, mentions the Ghorman genocide, but wasn't a speech about genocide. You'd know that if you were paying attention.

Mon Mothma has to pimp her daughter out to fund the rebellion

The entire Mon x Family plot was demonstrating how Mon's ideals clashed with everyone around her, including her own daughter. The marriage was arranged in accordance with a Chandrilan tradition, carried out at the age Chandrilans get married. Mon even offered to call off the marriage and her daughter rudely dismissed the idea. You'd know that if you were paying attention.

barely any aliens

It isn't necessary. It's a show about Andor (a human), his collaborators (humans), and the formation of the rebellion against the empire (whose significant characters are all human). You'd know that if you were paying attention.

Glad I could clear that up for you.

They're already forgotten

Ok retard

people still mocking or seething over them

ROTS just made huge money at the box office

You're delusional.

I told you to shut up

Kim is NOT for rimming

The speech was about lies and the dangerous trajectory of the empire under Palpatine's rule. It was in response to the Ghorman genocide, mentions the Ghorman genocide, but wasn't a speech about genocide. You'd know that if you were paying attention.

???
"What took place yesterday… what happened yesterday on Ghorman was unprovoked genocide! Yes! Genocide!"

The entire Mon x Family plot was demonstrating how Mon's ideals clashed with everyone around her, including her own daughter. The marriage was arranged in accordance with a Chandrilan tradition, carried out at the age Chandrilans get married. Mon even offered to call off the marriage and her daughter rudely dismissed the idea. You'd know that if you were paying attention.

Wrong retard. It was to get funding. You are just ignoring reality like the Ghorman genocide speech.

It isn't necessary.

But it's not realistic to the Star Wars universe.

and the formation of the rebellion

Which had aliens.
What a fucking cuck faggot you are. No updoots for you here, retard.

the amazing profits Sith pulled will be deposited directly into the petty cash for Fagloni's latest orange buttcheeks show

people still mocking or seething over them

They aren't

ROTS just made huge money at the box office

Courtesy of Andor

I told you to shut up

I told you to stop being a faggot. I guess were both bad at listening.

orange buttcheeks

A child

There were no Jedi on Ghorman so they're not relevant. Shut the fuck up.

take it up with fagloni as to why he's obsessed with a child

Unfortunately she's a 48 year old woman who moves like a pregnant cow

They aren't

You're right, the prequels are never ever mentioned....

Courtesy of Andor

So a show that has barely an viewers is responsible for a 20 year old movie getting big box office dollars?
Bro, stop. You are the most pathetic faggot in this thread with this logic.

Order 66 wasn't seen as a genocide it was seen as self defense for a religious organization that went rogue and attacked the republic after trying to assassinate the chancellor. Much like how Israel tried to take out JFK.

There were no Jedi on Ghorman

I never said there were. But it doesn't make sense that she wouldn't mention them. She made it seem like this is the first genocide of the Empire when it wasn't. That would be like if a terror attack happened in the US tomorrow, 9/11 would 100% be brought up.

Why don't they just invent the internet in Star Wars? It would solve so many problems

Shut up nigger

Order 66 wasn't seen as a genocide it was seen as self defense for a religious organization that went rogue and attacked the republic after trying to assassinate the chancellor.

Nonsense. Hunting down 10,000 Jedi (99.9% of which had no say in what the Council did) is genocide.

Keep losing, retard.

So a show that has barely an viewers is responsible for a 20 year old movie getting big box office dollars?

Yes

all star wars fans are retarded and mentally ill

willingly talking to them on the internet is stupid

Again, one of the most illogical things I've ever read. The zoom zooms that went to watch ROTS don't watch Andor.

Jedi are neither species, race, nor ethnicity.
It isn't genocide to kill all the rebel cops.

It was in response to the Ghorman genocide, mentions the Ghorman genocide, but wasn't a speech about genocide

Yeah your quote is why I said that. A speech can mention something as part of a greater narrative. That's actually how most speeches work, if you can believe it. So when Mon gave her speech about lies and the trajectory of the empire under Palpatine's rule and mentioned the genocide, there was no reason to mention every other genocide in the empire's history because it was a speech about lies and the trajectory of the empire under Palpatine's rule. You'd know that if you were paying attention.

Wrong retard.

Let's go through it:

The entire Mon x Family plot was demonstrating how Mon's ideals clashed with everyone around her, including her own daughter.

Objectively correct.

The marriage was arranged in accordance with a Chandrilan tradition, carried out at the age Chandrilans get married.

Objectively correct.

Mon even offered to call off the marriage and her daughter rudely dismissed the idea.

What I'm doing is adding more context because you've simplified the fuck out of it (which of course makes it sound retarded). Nothing I said was wrong. Mon's daughter was inevitably going to be the subject of an arranged marriage and even wanted that path for herself. This is "The Myth of Consensual Arranged Marriage" meme with everyone but you consenting. You'd know that if you were paying attention.

But it's not realistic to the Star Wars universe.

There were aliens, so it is "realistic to the Star Wars universe." Unless you think every piece of Star Wars media is required to have a specific human-to-alien ratio, which is retarded.

Jedi are neither species, race, nor ethnicity.

So you can't genocide a group based on their religion?

We need to stop responding to this faggot autismo, he's a jew

the final straw

And they banned those too!

Bix was Cassian's sister all along

Why didn't Vader just force pull this when he was like 3 meters away from it? consider he can move entire ships and shit

Again, one of the most illogical things I've ever read

And yet it still happened. Welcome to reality.

The zoom zooms that went to watch ROTS don't watch Andor.

Except they did.

There was too much going on for him to focus his attention on it

Explain to me how the First Order were the bad guys in the sequels when they were a military junta rebellion just like the Rebel Alliance? Fuck the Republic. Sheev did nothing wrong.

They should do a Star Wars show based on the Afrikaaners struggles in South Africa

Yeah your quote is why I said that. A speech can mention something as part of a greater narrative. That's actually how most speeches work, if you can believe it. So when Mon gave her speech about lies and the trajectory of the empire under Palpatine's rule and mentioned the genocide, there was no reason to mention every other genocide in the empire's history because it was a speech about lies and the trajectory of the empire under Palpatine's rule. You'd know that if you were paying attention.

You are such a disingenuous faggot. The lies and genocide started 20 years ago with the Jedi and she just uh, didn't bring it up I guess... If a terror attack happened tomorrow all the politicians would be using the words "9/11".

What I'm doing is adding more context

Doesn't matter. It was still about funding the rebellion.

There were aliens, so it is "realistic to the Star Wars universe."

So you went from "it's not necessary" to "herr derr there were aliens". The show was 99% human which is ridiculous.

Unless you think every piece of Star Wars media is required to have a specific human-to-alien ratio, which is retarded.

It's the way the universe has been portrayed. I didn't make it up. Seeing all these humans and no aliens made it look like a shitty SciFi channel film. As I said, Ghorman should have been a Mon Calamari colony.

Sebullbussin

show Dedra suspecting an ISB mole to justify taking the initiative

not in the shop-- leaving it and picking up the tail, and leading them away from the safehouse (gets eyes on it and turns away

stops by picrel for last meal and liaising so Kleya gets word to skedaddle

Baldy leaves - offers - his sidearm, left on the table behind him as he waits outside.

Andy Serkis laughing maniacally at Dedra across from her in another cell [they put up a portrait of Cyril on the wall monitor 24/7 to torture her]

Bix video letter comes too late: she's pregnant and tapping out: he was right: at the same time as word of her death.

Rhydonium junkie handyman executes a Yavin spy on camera in the council meeting to establish that they really have to stop attempting to contact him for any reason per Rogue 1 pilot's tentacle rape interrogation

Cyril's mother was a casualty of Kleya's blast. Uncle Harlow at memorial for both her & Cyril approached by Ghorman for recruitment [surprise: he's already involved on the blackmarket side of things]

And yet it still happened. Welcome to reality.

ROTS made money, but it had nothing to do with Andor, a show that even Disney admitted gets low viewers. Based on your logic Andor won Trump the election....because...uh...it just did!

Except they did.

They don't watch Andor. Nobody is.

What '''struggles'''?

Andor got greenlit for s2.
Meanwhile almost all other slop got only 1 season.

Andor got greenlit for s2.

It was supposed to be like 5 and it got cut down to 2....

Meanwhile almost all other slop got only 1 season.

I will admit Andor is better than those shittier shows.

ROTS made money, but it had nothing to do with Andor,

Except it did.

They don't watch Andor. Nobody is.

No, they did.

Isn't Lonni's discovery pointless since they found out about the Death Star from the defector anyways?

Except it did.

This is your last (you) on this topic. You are too stupid to exist if you believe that.

No, they did.

Disney even admitted low viewership.

It got cut to 2 because 2 seasons took a fucking decade. 5 would be another 10 years. Diego Luna is 45 this year.

No, because the reason nobody believed him in the chain of Lonni > Luthen > Kleia was that it was uncorroborated hearsay. Saw's partisan telling them what Bodhi said corroborates the story.

It got cut to 2 because 2 seasons took a fucking decade.

Not true. It was cut down before season 1 was even released.

It made more sense why Andor was willing to kill him off and why he so quickly believed in the DS.

finding out earlier and from multiple sources was important.

If a terror attack happened tomorrow all the politicians would be using the words "9/11".

So the speech is perfectly fine, you're just mad she didn't compare what happened on Ghorman to Order 66. Seems like a little nitpick (or you didn't understand what the speech was about until you had it explained to you).

Doesn't matter. It was still about funding the rebellion.

So the fact that an arranged marriage to another aristocrat was inevitable and desired by all parties including the daughter doesn't matter because Mon objected tot he idea at first and had to reluctantly come to terms with it. Cool got it.

So you went from "it's not necessary" to "herr derr there were aliens".

You complained about the show not having enough aliens and I said more weren't necessary. Then I reminded you that there are aliens in the show. These two concepts are not mutually exclusive. I can say there are aliens in the show and more aren't necessary without contradicting myself.

The show was 99% human

Yeah that's fine.

which is ridiculous

Oh. Out of curiosity, what's your ideal human-to-alien ratio? If there's a show that's only about Twi'lek, and only stars Twi'lek, would that be too many aliens or not enough?
By the way I don't actually want you to answer that and I'm probably not going to reply to you again. You're a fucking retard.

Source

Not that it mattered since the nigger woman and the beardo senators wanted to quit the second somebody told them the Death Star was real anyway. I have a feeling if the adult drama writers had been in the room on that day those two would have been assassinated,

So the speech is perfectly fine, you're just mad she didn't compare what happened on Ghorman to Order 66.

You're reading comprehension is non-existant. I said nothing of "comparisons", but it makes zero sense that the Jedi genocide wasn't mentioned....in a speech about genocide.....

So the fact that an arranged marriage to another aristocrat was inevitable and desired by all parties including the daughter doesn't matter because Mon objected tot he idea at first and had to reluctantly come to terms with it. Cool got it

It was still about funding the rebellion.

These two concepts are not mutually exclusive.

They are. I never said there were zero aliens, just not enough based on previous SW media. So you saying "they aren't necessary", then saying "oh even though they aren't necessary but look here they are" makes you look retarded.

Yeah that's fine.

It sticks out like a sore thumb. I would have loved to have seen how the Mon Calamari joined the rebellion.

Oh. Out of curiosity, what's your ideal human-to-alien ratio?

Just look at ANH (Tattooine), The prequels (Coruscant), fuck even Mandalorian. Aliens are in Star Wars, especially going to all these different planets.

By the way I don't actually want you to answer

This is how you admit you lost an argument.

"It's worth mentioning, even though this point has been discussed at length, that "Andor" was originally conceived as a five-season extravaganza, which was then cut down to just two 12-episode seasons due to budget and scheduling constraints."
google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.slashfilm.com/1855817/andor-season-2-ending-explained/&ved=2ahUKEwis9ZzA9KSNAxUTEGIAHdTwBQgQFnoECBkQAw&usg=AOvVaw2mvPR0-kdEzT7bd--zfIuY

You're reading comprehension is non-existant.

lol

speech about genocide

Alright I'm gonna stop reading and replying to you here. I believe it's ~12:35PM where you're at, try not to waste daylight.

scheduling concerns

DUDE FROGS!!! DONT YOU GET THE FRENCH RESISTANCE ALLEGORY. DONT YOU WANT MORE FUCKING HUMANS IN YOUR SHOW FIGHTING VS HUMANS EVEN THOUGH THE REBELLION WAS ALWAYS PORTRAYED AS A DIVERSE ALLIANCE OF SPECIES VS THE ENTIRELY HUMAN EMPIRE?

lol

Wow, grammar nazi at 3am as you are losing the argument....

Alright I'm gonna stop reading and replying to you here. I believe it's ~12:35PM where you're at, try not to waste daylight.

Oh yeah
YOU: "HErr derr it's not about genocide, even though she mentions that exact word and the genocide itself is what caused her to give this speech! REEEEE!"
I can't belief what a fucking faggot you are.

Yes, unironically. I have no sympathy for rubber mask aliens aside from the Mon Cala, because they're pretty cool

>scheduling concerns

If the show got huge viewership numbers, there would be enough money to get rid of all those concerns. But it didn't.

HONESTLY WE SHOULD GET RID OF ALL THE SPACE SHIT TOO IT'S GETTING PLAYED OUT. SKIBIDI FLOSS DAB

Mon Cala, because they're pretty cool

I've said in this thread numerous times that Ghorman should have been a Mon Calamari colony. It would have given us perfect insight into why they joined the rebellion. Instead it was a bunch of French sounding humans

Mon Mothma doesn't mention Jedi genocide....in her speech about genocide

The Jedi had a sad devotion to an ancient religion, not a race :^)

So you gave me a source that cites scheduling concerns then came up with a headcanon about viewership numbers and money so once again I'll ask for a source.

Diego Luna was already looking like shit, they had to de-age him for the transition into the movie. Not to mention Stellan's age finally catching up with him. No way they could have kept dragging it out.

dave filoni wrote this post

The Jedi had a sad devotion to an ancient religion, not a race :^)

You can genocide a group based on their beliefs you dumb fucking faggot.

Calibrate the intensity of your faggot outbursts

Mon Calamari have been with the Rebellion since day 1. Or at least that was my interpretation.

Mon Cala's a water world though, and we know they joined because Palpatine backed the Quarren separatists

So you gave me a source that cites scheduling concerns then came up with a headcanon about viewership numbers and money so once again I'll ask for a source.

Disney is not going to flat out say "Yeah, this show greatly failed in the viewership category so we are cutting it down". Learn to decipher you dumb retard. Funny how The Mandalorian (which had huge viewers and stupid Baby Yoda shit selling like crazy) didn't have these problems that Andor has.

Jedis have been painted as traitors and terrorist that is why killing them isn't a bad thing. Like if you said we gonna genocide the terrorist in the middle east, no one would blink.

So no source?

They were in on the ground floor with Padme, Bail and Mothma back in the Clone Wars period

The Empire has skirmishes everywhere. In s1 Cassian is mentioned to have served in army (as a cook) on Mimban after getting out of a youth prison for assaulting a trooper after they hung Clem. In Solo, that's where Han and Chewie meet. In the 1978 novel Splinter of the Mind's Eye, there is an ancient temple there with THE Kyber Crystal in it.

Jedis have been painted as traitors and terrorist that is why killing them isn't a bad thing.

So were Ghormans, retard.

Mon Calamari have been with the Rebellion since day 1. Or at least that was my interpretation.

Gee, funny how this show didn't mention that or

Mon Cala's a water world though

show them....
Hence why I said it should be a Mon Calamari colony. We know they can survive outside of water.

See The unfortunately reality is "watch the Clone Wars cartoon".

You got me, faggot. There is no source of Disney throwing their show under the bus as a failure. Big failures get cancelled after 1 season. Less big failures only 2 seasons. Hits like Mandalorian go on and on and on and on....

how about you suck mon dickamari, faggot

Yes. That's what the Empire was going to do. The jedi issue happened decades ago so empire already solidified the story while the Ghorman incident was still fresh.

The unfortunately reality is "watch the Clone Wars cartoon".

No.
But how could the Rebellion be in the Clone Wars? Isn't that show set during the PT era?

Your uncle works at Nintendo?

Surely Dedra would understand that

A smug empire underestimating their enemies and overestimating their own position? Nah, you're right, that would never happen

How often do you think normal people take shits? He squoze one out before he started his shift.

Jedis have been painted as traitors and terrorist that is why killing them isn't a bad thing.

So they killed 10,000 Jedi because some retards on the Council were accused of being traitors?

The Rebellion starts out as resistance to the CIS and then its infrastructure is slowly morphed into the Rebellion we know. The Mon Calamari is the best example of this, Ryloth is another.

starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Delegation_of_2,000

You understand majority of the senate were not present for the event right?

It was not fresh. Anti ghorman propaganda was happening for years. Did you watch the show? Jedi were guardians of peace and justice for over a 1000 years, and they worked directly with many senators, and they were painted traitors over night.

Your uncle works at Nintendo?

This is your last (you). Fine, Andor was a huge hit, a massive hit. Disney loves cancelling hit shows after numerous flops because their stars will be 45 soon. kys you fucking retarded faggot

Painted traitors overnight and Empire had years to rewrite the history of the Jedi.

You understand majority of the senate were not present for the event right?

Uh, no. The chamber looked full when the Palpatine gave his speech. And just because you aren't "there" doesn't mean you can't get a video feed or a transcript later on....Holy fuck you faggots are retarded.

Imagine his life if all traces of Star Wars ever having existed just vanished.

Painted traitors overnight and Empire had years to rewrite the history of the Jedi.

What did they rewrite exactly? And how would the Senators believe that nonsense when they met Jedi, worked with them, saw their heroics, etc?

If Dave Filoni wrote Andor: Kleya is Leia’s older sister who inspired Leia to lead the rebellion. Struck with sadness of her loss, Leia never mentions her.

It was cut down before season 1 was even released

It was cancelled

So which force ghost told KK that Season 1 was going to be a flop that they pre-empetively cancelled it before S1 aired?

What I can't believe is how many times you've posted this.

BUSSIN ANDOR FUNKO

Thanks to the force healer his son now has higher midichlorians ans will be force sensitive.

"The Delegation of 2,000 appeared in deleted scenes of Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith. "
Doesn't count.

Do you think senators that are sympathetic or have close ties with the Jedi would allowed to gain power in an Empire controlled senate. Use your brain dumbfucks.

if F*loni wrote andor, instead of Andor saying he's a nobody, he would tell Luthen 'Why not hire Cad bane or Boba fett over me?''

It's also significantly in the cartoon, which is very canon

here's how you fix Andor:

replace all of the substance and themes and worldbuilding and storytelling and stakes with cool action shots of invincible mandalorians fighting a reasonable ratio aliens and humans

add a scene where bix gets raped by doctor gorst

Do you think senators that are sympathetic or have close ties with the Jedi would allowed to gain power in an Empire controlled senate.

They already had power when the Jedi were killed.... When Palpatine gave his speech it was filled with Senators that had been their for many years.

It's also significantly in the cartoon, which is very canon

No one cares.

I swear he said so. Perhaps at one stage he was going to be back. Remember when they first announced Andor, and part of thr announcement was that Alan Tudyk would be back? That's because initially it was going to be a dumb Cassian and K2 adventure of the week show before Tony Gilroy came on board.

Sounds better than the generic, cliché, mundane shit we got.

if F*vreau wrote Andor, instead of Andor saying he's a nobody, he would have been a nobody the entire show and two episodes would've been about Grogu and Din Djarin.

And that was how many years from Andor?
Use your brain retard, senators in that senate already have a fixed opinion on the Jedi. Those sympathetic to the Jedi won't change their opinion and those who don't know or don't care, won't either. Ghorman happened yesterday, everyone got live and fresh information from the incident, Mon Mothma speech would gain nothing from referencing the Jedi and might in fact turn against her if there were senators sympathic to the rebellion but consider the Jedi traitors.

I wonder if he could even convincingly pull off the accent?

Stop being nuanced, faggot. Star Wars media isn't supposed to be nuanced.

It really does suck they didn't have the balls to portray Leia though

Andor had some semblence of naunce which is why it is the only non-sloppa in the Disney era.

And that was how many years from Andor?

20. YOU said Palpatine gave the speech and barely any Senators were there. And when I proved that wrong you said "but those Senators didn't have close ties to the Jedi" which they would have because they were still office on the day of Order 66.

senators in that senate already have a fixed opinion on the Jedi.

You mean like Bail Organa? If the Senate was so anti-Jedi/pro-Empire why did the Emperor get rid of the Senate in ANH?
Holy fuck you are so fucking braindead and blinded with defending this boring show that you aren't thinking clearly.

Ghorman happened yesterday, everyone got live and fresh information from the incident, Mon Mothma speech would gain nothing from referencing the Jedi

You are so retarded. She gave her speech in a "We are losing the truth and a genocide happened!"....but that happened 20 years ago. Not bringing up this very similar historical even is retarded. If a terror attack happened today, "9/11" would be mentioned.
What a dumb dumb you are.

How do you feel knowing that Thrawn easily could've been mogged his EU counterpart if he had Andor style writing. Instead of a complicated, multi-layered competent character you'll get your shitty ''HAHAH... Ill get em next time.. losing was all part of my le plan!!'' portrayed yours truly, by midwitts such as f*loni

Why did she say this again? The Imperial Senate, as shown in Andor, was completely, entirely worthless, other than Mon Mothma - who had been entirely worthless, until she literally had to run away - and Bail Organa, who was fucking worthless. It was absolutely powerless and impotend, and could be literally shut down by ISB at any moment. Why did Leia act like it had any power? Why did Palpatine even bother dissolving it? Maybe this thrash show should have shown the Imperial Senate actually getting in Palpatine's way and foiling his plans, like when during Clone Wars, Padme stopped several of Palpatine's authoritarian legislation, and was an actual nuisance to him. What did we get in Andor? Season 1, Mothma is busy pimping out her cunt daughter, because she doesn't know how to launder money (lol). Season 2, we waste more time on shitty wedding, and then we are shown that the Senate is entirely fucking worthless, controlled by ISB, and all the Senators who spoke up literally defected. Make it make sense.

The arrangement with Sculdun wasn't to get funding, it was money laundering. She had been funding rebel activity with her personal fortune and was making mistakes accounting for it. So she set up a "charity" and got help from a shady fucker who is good at money laundering.

Kill yourself

Why did she say this again? The Imperial Senate, as shown in Andor, was completely, entirely worthless, other than Mon Mothma -

Because Andor is a shitty show that didn't follow Star Wars lore on numerous occasions. In ANH the Senate has power and even that Admiral in the board room with Tarkin and Vader was shocked that the Senate was dissolved. He even questioned how the Emperor would maintain control. Shit writing on Andor's party. The show feels disconnected from Rogue One let alone ANH.

samefagging

he's getting desperate. someone give him a (You).

Because Andor is a shitty show that didn't follow Star Wars lore on numerous occasions.

Based Andor shitting on the crappy original lore

You lost, again.

NTA, but didn't we have that same discussion a few threads back? "Genocide" is not a synonym for "mass killing". Genocide is a special form of targeted mass killing where you target people for beeing members of an inherited culture/ethnicity/nation with the goal of wiping that ethnicity out. A dedicated plan to annihilate the population of Ghorman can be considered a genocide (though it was not build on any specific animosity against Ghormans as such, they just needed the land).* A plan to mass kill an international organization of celibate monks that only reproduce my missionary work is not a genocide. It's still a targeted mass killing event though. So I see where you're coming from, but I'm not sure what the point of your rambling was supposed to be.

You have to prove the same senators there on the day of Order 66 are in office on Mon's speech. Not the other way around.
Yeah. Bail Organa who had to keep his head down and was supportive of the cause. Like I said, would mentioning the Jedi change anything?
Order 66 is NOT 9/11. Some of the senate absolutely considers the Jedi the enemy due to the empire lies and the passage of time.
Again tell me the benefit of referencing the Jedi when
1. Those who know the truth would already be on the rebellion side
2. Those who don't know the truth would think she is whack for comparing Ghorman to a terrorist organization
Fucking retard.

Based Andor shitting on the crappy original lore

That lore will survive. Andor will soon be forgotten.

The senate has power in the fact that systems could cede and that was how the clone wars happened. Death Star would put an end to any civil war really fucking fast.

LITERALLY, MAKE IT MAKE SENSE!
ISB spooks controlled the senate literally 24/7, had their plants with questionable senators, and only the loyal senators were even allowed to speak pre-written propaganda, and those who weren't loyal defected to fucking Yavin. WHAT IS HE TALKING ABOUT. Senate as shown in Andor was completely USELESS. So, why is it such a problem in ANH?

sure it will star wars theory

You have to prove the same senators there on the day of Order 66 are in office on Mon's speech.

No I don't. The same Senators of today aren't the same ones that were in office on 9/11. But again if a terror attack happened tomorrow, Trump would be mentioning "9/11" in his speeches to the House and Senate. Retard.

Like I said, would mentioning the Jedi change anything?

It would help her speech. She gave the speech in a "can you believe this! We are losing the truth and it led to a genocide" When it should have been "We stayed silent when the Jedi were genocided, but we will stay silent no more".

. Some of the senate absolutely considers the Jedi the enemy due to the empire lies and the passage of time.

Why would Senators that loyal be dissolved by the Emperor? Clearly in ANH he was losing them.

1. Those who know the truth would already be on the rebellion side

Funny how Andor didn't do a great job of showing us that.

2. Those who don't know the truth would think she is whack for comparing Ghorman to a terrorist organization

These people are with Empire no matter what speech she gave.
Based on your own logic Mon Mothmas speech wouldn't change any minds.
Fucking faggot.

The senate has power in the fact that systems could cede

Are you braindead? If anyone tried that, they would all be genocided. Like the Empire did since day one, according to this show. MAKE IT STOP. MAKE IT STOP. MAKE IT STOOOOOOOOOOOOP.

You wrote entire paragraphs to end on a fucking cop out about why she should mention the jedis. Fuck you faggot. All you want it is your jedis and lightsabers in the show. I am glad Andor gave you a middle finger.

Yeah. That is what the Death Star is for. Genocide on steroids.

You wrote entire paragraphs to end on a fucking cop out about why she should mention the jedis.

I always said "It doesn't make sense that she doesn't mention" Not my fault you built your own headcanon regarding our conversation, retard.

All you want it is your jedis and lightsabers in the show.

So you're ok with Luthen's ship having lightsabers attached (one of the dumbest fucking things I've ever seen). You're ok with a Jedi healer (I mean a FORCE healer).
For all the stuff you say I want, you are ok with it already being there.

I am glad Andor gave you a middle finger.

I'm just glad it's over and will soon be forgotten.

I'm 50/50 on this anon being a shitty LLM prompted to disagree without ingesting any of the reply. It's insane how he can completely ignore the key points of discussion and/or dismantle his own arguments in the same message. This must be one of the toxic Star Wars fans Kathleen warned me about.

Senators could still sympathize with the rebellion. ISB controlling the senate chamber doesn't mean all senators are brainwashed chuds, some are like Bail and Mon.

Between episode 3 and 4, there has been plenty of genocide committed, why only mention the Jedi? Why not mention every single other genocide that happened? Or is it because your ADHD riddled brain must have Jedis? Why can't a speech be self contained and sufficient. Mentioning jedi adds nothing because it happened years ago and by canon, it isn't even the most RECENT genocide under the Empire. Fuck you faggot.

brainwashed chuds, some are like Bail and Mon.

Bad Senators = DRUMPF
Good Senators = OUR HEROES
Can this show be any more fucking bleddit? Holy shit.

guys let's stop the empire and death star by having terrorists capture and bring Imperial Oppenheimer before its senate and testify against the government!

surely, everyone gave a shit, when Ghormans were massacred!

or 5000 planets before it!

this time sure it will work!

Who wrote this shit? Andor does not work with R1, does not work with ANH, and R1 is so retarded on its own and doesn't work with anything either.

No shit nigger, Lucas himself based the rebels off of gooks.

Drumpf wished his cabinet members were half as competent as Tarkin, Partagaz or Vader. Instead Cash Petel is running the FBI.

Foundation

kys

Sympathies are irrelevant when the Imperial senate had no power. And the series showed us that it absolutely didn't. They can feel all they won't. They don't have power to take any legislative action. Whereas ANH clearly established that the Senate was a legitimate political body that was the last thing stopping Palpatine from having absolute power. Which he, for all intents and purposes, already had in Andor, because the Senate was worthless.

be nobody in season 1

become the best part of season 2

Between episode 3 and 4, there has been plenty of genocide committed,

Only the movies (and now TV shows) count. If it's in a book or video game, nobody cares.

why only mention the Jedi?

Ok, then why not mention all these other genocides you say happened? Seems like this genocide really got them pissed for some reason.

Or is it because your ADHD riddled brain must have Jedis?

No. I never said I needed Jedis, I said they should mention the most recent previous genocide (not counting the ones nobody knows about from the books or whatever) and they just happen to Jedis. If it Wookies that were genocided in ROTS, then yes Mon Mothma should have mentioned that.
You have somehow warped this into "YOU JUST WANT JEDI" as you lost the argument mere.
Funny how you aren't complaing about that Jedi lady (I mean, FORCE HEALER).

Drumpf wished his cabinet members were half as competent as Tarkin, Partagaz or Vader. Instead Cash Petel is running the FBI.

Trump won, faggot.
Oh and

Death Star destroyed with Tarkin in command

Partagaz suicided

Vader betrayed the cause

Episode 1 to 3 already showed the Senate had no power. The power of the Senate comes from their individual members being able to cede and then start a war. Like clone war. So the senate was to keep the various system appeased, to make them feel like they had a say in the running of the galaxy. Once they had the death star, Palp could dissolve the senate because he had a huge gun to point at everyone. This isn't considering Andor information, this is what we can infer from Episode 1,2,3 and 4.

*ignores the absolutely retarded lightsabers on Luthen's ship* (why didn't other ships do this)

Retard

You are just raving now about how she MUST mention other genocides. Get a grip.

Episode 1 to 3 already showed the Senate had no power.

They did have power. Palpatine just knew how to manipulate them to his will.

And all still more competent than Cash Petel.

Their power came from their own systems and how their systems had military might.

"ISB? what have these lunatics done now?"

"blew up ghorman for minerals, your execellency"

"my favorite robes were made by ghormans, who authorised this idiocy?"

"uhm-"

So what did Palpy do all this time during S1 and 2? I hope not just sitting in his office and trying to keep up with the thousands of orders and decrees that needed to be signed.

Collecting his 400 billion credit Star Destroyer gifted to him by the outer rims.

NOPE.
Those aren't lightsabers. Those are lasers on a continuous long stream. On those prequel tanks/airships, when they fire those lasers, they will keep going until they hit a target. If they don't hit a target, the laser will dissipate due to lack of power.
A lightsaber is a work of fiction. You turn it on and it magically just stops going outward at a certain point. But is able to maintain it's power for a long stretch of time. Luthen's ship had this. Not the laser from the Clone wars.

Nah, Mas Amedda did all that shit, Palpatine was chilling in the Jedi temple and its Sith temple miles beneath just partying.

Episode 1 to 3 already showed the Senate had no power.

Nonsense. If it didn't have power, Palpatine would have no need to send Padme away to Naboo, because she could single handedly ruin his plans. Plus, we saw in Clone Wars Padme doing exactly that - thwarting Palpatine's plans a bunch of times. Palpatine had to really manipulate and play 4D chess to do what he needed to do. Whereas Senate in Andor was completely worthless and controlled by spooks. It was all just a pretense.

Their power came from their own systems and how their systems had military might.

The fuck are you onto, retard? They literally had no fucking army, which is why they needed the clones. At best some planets had small planetary security, like Naboo.

Work of fiction

Lmao.

I came to this thread to see if I could be talked out of liking the show, and now that I know the best argument against it is "Mon probably could have mentioned Order 66 during her speech" I like it even more. Thanks anon.

You are just raving now about how she MUST mention other genocides. Get a grip.

Again, I'm not. YOU mentioned other genocides. I said it makes zero sense to not mention the previous genocide the Empire did (from the movies).
And again, how do you feel about the Jedi (I mean FORCE HEALER) in the show. You are oddly silent on it, despite saying that I need Jedi in SW media.

Yeah. Where did the Outer Rim's army come from then?

Collecting his 400 billion credit Star Destroyer gifted to him by the outer rims.

Rent fucking free, holy shit. Andorfags are nothing but faggot onion Kamala voters.

build the death star for one trillion credits

insure it for two trillion

it gets blown up

Pro gamer move.
But he did know what was done on his authority, right? I personally can see the guy becoming quite nostalgic of the old days when he wasn't Chancellor yet, when he had to think and plan hard.

Why does it make zero sense to not mention previous genocides?

One is a boilerplate flowery political speech which boils down to "Lies are bad." The other is still being talked about 20 years later because it features two incredibly original characters (Jar Jar and Palpatine) delivering immortal lines that only one man could write.

Are you really telling me that when we let truth go by the wayside, we cede the narrative to whichever person yells the loudest? Wow, I've never heard it put quite that way before. These writers are incredible...This is literally just regurgitating language and rhetoric that you'd have to be a zombie not to have absorbed in some fashion over the past 10 years. Then they put it in the Star Wars show so you'd clap. It's just not original! There should be more than this.

And to be clear, the AOTC scene includes basic lines like: "I love democracy. I love the Republic." Yet everyone can hear these lines in their head! That's proof of how well-constructed the scene is on a *cinematic* basis. Neither scene is great literature, but one thinks it is! These could be perfectly acceptable lines for the purpose of supporting a cinematic narrative, but everyone involved obviously believes this writing is itself the accomplishment. But here I can say objectively, it is neither saying anything new nor saying it in an innovative way.

So where am I left with this speech as the centerpiece and, really, only matter of real interest in the episode? If I'm not impressed by the literary qualities of the writing, then I have little else to cling onto aside from how terribly Important it all is.

I thought it was the Right who said legalize comedy?

Trump won. You lost.

?
What army, retard? If anyone had armies, there would be no need for the clones, you moron. Trade Federation was the only ones with the Army, which is why they could just take over any planet they wanted with no one being able to stop them.

when they fire those lasers, they will keep going until they hit a target. If they don't hit a target, the laser will dissipate due to lack of power.

Nice headcanon

Thankfully I am not a turd worlder American

Uh, LASERS are real, lightsabers aren't.

Of course. We have little genuine insight into what Sheev did on a daily basis but it was all evil wizard shit.

Mon Cal had their own fleet. Maybe not everyone had an army but clearly some did.

Lasers as depicted in Star Wars are absolutely a work of fiction and are impossible to replicate IRL.

btw, I’m trans if that matters

Why does it make zero sense to not mention previous genocides?

Because not mentioning "9/11" if a terrorist attack happened tomorrow would make zero sense.
Mon Mothma's speech had a big element of "we are losing the truth", but the truth was lost 20 years ago. Instead of saying "this is the 2nd time a genocide has happened, we can't afford a 3rd, we lost the truth 20 years ago lets get it back" it was "Uh a genocide just happened and we are losing the truth" It only helps her case to mention it and it makes sense.

Why were they already working on a second one?

No, they didn't. Not during Clone Wars. During and before Clone Wars, they just had their planetary security - like everyone else. Because that's the entire premise of the prequels: Republic had no standing army, planets had small security forces, which is why TF could just take over Naboo, and which is why when they wanted to do so again on a galactic scale, they needed the clone army to repel them.

I like how the goalpost has moved from why didn't she mention the jedi to okay maybe her speech could be better. Lmao.

Why not?

It gets dismantled like 5 minutes later.

Lasers as depicted in Star Wars are absolutely a work of fiction and are impossible to replicate IRL.

I didn't say the LASER BLASTERS I said the lasers from the Clone Wars ships. We have lasers that are one long, continuous beam that need to hit a target to be effective.

Yes. So the senate was kept around so we could avoid another clone war situation.

Lasers from the clone war ships are also not realistic anon.

I like how the goalpost has moved from why didn't she mention the jedi to okay maybe her speech could be better. Lmao.

A speech that uses historical context of the previous genocide makes sense, bolsters her argument, and it doesn't make sense if she doesn't use it.
AGAIN, are you ok with Force Healers? I answer everything and you just IGNORE.

Lasers from the clone war ships are also not realistic anon.

We have lasers like that right now. They are primitive sure, but they are one long continous beam, just like the clone wars. A lightsaber is somethign that is impossible.
Luthens ship had a lightsabers, not the clone war lasers.

So your argument is her speech could have been better?

So your argument is her speech could have been better?

My argument is that mentioning the Jedi doesn't make sense.
This is your last (you) unless you mention whether or not you liked the Force Healer. (which would be odd because you claim I demand Jedi in the show)

Cassian's son? Ryan Gosling

My argument is that mentioning the Jedi doesn't make sense.

Okay.

Maybe it was a new type of laser?

it's 4AM

I've been arguing that the Jedi NOT being mentioned doesn't make sense

I forgot to say "NOT" in my recent post

You pounce on this

I am officially declaring victory the useless disignenous faggot that you are.
Oh, and you still haven't answered about the FORCE HEALER.
I win, you lose.

Maybe it was a new type of laser?

Then why wasn't it used anywhere else? Surely Luthen would want the Rebellion to have this weapon. It would have turned the tide of every space battle almost instantly in the rebels favor. It's just dumb writing. Just like the Holdo Manueuver. You say "why didn't they do that before?" but it doesn't make sense in the science of the Star Wars universe.

You been barking and ranting the entire thread. Often contradicting yourself, how would I know if that was a typo or you being delusional?

Too expensive for mass production?
Unique old tech that Luthen is known to procure?
Its fiction

. Often contradicting yourself,

Please give an example of how I contradicted myself. I await your silence.
And you still can't answer whether you like the Force Healer. Your silence says more than any response could at this point.

"HERR DERR YOU JUST WANT JEDI IN MUH ADULT STAR WARS SHOW!"

"What about the Force Healer?"

"...................................."

Too expensive for mass production?

Fucking retarded. Even one of those on one ship would be the deadliest weapon on the battlefield.

Unique old tech that Luthen is known to procure?

You are a fucking retard that will swallow any garbage. This tech wasn't even in the Clone Wars. Don't you think Jedi's in fight craft would want lightsabers attached to it?

Its fiction

Then why doesn't every ship have one? it's fiction, right?

Not falling for your lame attempt to move the goal post.

My argument is that mentioning the jedi doesn't make sense

An example

Short ranged weapon in a spacecraft is a deadly weapon

Yeah. Why don't we attach F35 with blades to slice the enemy. Here comes the mental gymnastics of trying to balance a realistic weapon with the fictional space combat of star wars. How predictable.

Not falling for your lame attempt to move the goal post.

Ok...

"You contradict yourself often"

"Prove it"

"Uh....muh goalpost!"

You lost, bro.
Please tell me about how you love the Force Healer.

>My argument is that mentioning the jedi doesn't make sense

An example
So your example is the thing I said I forgotten to put word in? You said "Often contradicting yourself". Give an example.
This is just sad at this point.

Give an example

That doesn't count

Cries

Sad

Why don't we attach F35 with blades to slice the enemy.

Because blades attached to the F35 wouldn't cut through enemy fighter craft. It would just damage the F35. The lightsaber on Luthen's ship would cut through anything, retard.
I didn't put this nonsense in Andor you dumb fucking faggot. It's stupid and shouldn't have been put in because it makes other SW media make no sense if this tech is available it would be on all ships (or at the very least a few ship in battle if it's hard to reproduce).

Our laser are powered by kyber crystals?

>Give an example

You are so sad. You said "OFTEN". And you used my admitted mistake as your excuse to say "OFTEN". This is so fucking pathetic.

can't prove I don't contradict myself

can't answer about the Force Healer.

I'm so glad a mature show like Andor doesn't have Jed-I mean FORCE HEALERS....oh wait....

Cut up a bunch of unshielded TIEs that even an X-wing laser battery could take out from a mile away

CUTS THROUGH ANYTHING
MOST DEADLY WEAPON EVER

Yeah, you contradict yourself often. However you asked for AN example. I gave you AN example. Why you crying?

Our laser are powered by kyber crystals?

Power source is irrelevant. The both behave the same.

MOST DEADLY WEAPON EVER

I didn't say it was the most deadly weapon ever, I said the ship with it would be the most deadly on the battlefield. All it has to do is fly near into a formation of fighters or near a Death Star and doing massive damage.
You are fucking retarded.

What can it do that the average laser battery cannot? Man you are fucking retarded. Yeah it has to fly NEAR a formation of fighter, as compared to blasting it from miles away. That is like saying a sword is better than a gun because you come with 10 meters of the guy, you can slice him up while someone with a gun can blast you from up to 200 meters away.

Hngggg

Yeah, you contradict yourself often.

Yet you can't prove it.

However you asked for AN example. I gave you AN example

I will explain it to a retard like you. And this is your last (you). Not answering about the Force Healer shows even you admit it was a shitty idea and you saying "you only want Jedi" doesn't make much sense.
I will lay it out:

You and I go on numerous walks

One day I fall down

You: "You fall down often"

Me: "Prove it"

You: "Just just fell down right now"

Just using the one and most recent event isn't enough to justify "often".

I just did. There is an example

What can it do that the average laser battery cannot?

Then why did Luthen have it on his ship? Based on your logic why don't the Jedi just use laser blasters?

Yeah it has to fly NEAR a formation of fighter, as compared to blasting it from miles away.

You are so fucking braindead

a formation of Tie Fighters flank a X-Wing

X-Wing's only fire forward with their blasters

Tie Fighters go in for the kill

X-Wing pilot activates lightsaber that slices up the Tie Fighters that have flanked the X-Wing

KYS RETARD.

He had it on his ship as an escape mechanism, I swear you retards don't watch the show. The lasers are meant to be a surprise because people don't expect such a ship to be armed and dangerous.

Gives retarded situation in which close combat might be better

Declares close combat as superior

Ignores the fact that majority of dogfights are fought over distance

Has to be a very specific scenario for it to be deadly

Yeah. If I get a drop on you, a knife would indeed be dangerous.

What's with this dude calling beam weapons lightsabers anyway.

He had it on his ship as an escape mechanism,

He literally used it to cut down a TIE Fighter you dumb fucking faggot. This feature should be on as many ships as possible.
Again, based on your logic Jedi should be using laser blasters. And you really think this lightsabers on a ship would have zero tactical value? Are you fucking braindead.?

He is butthurt when people said Andor doesn't pander to jedi tards so he wants to make a point that Luthen's spaceship has lightsabers thus Andor in fact features Jedi BS.

Fucking retarded. Even one of those on one ship would be the deadliest weapon on the battlefield.

Kind of a dumb argument when we are talking about a franchise that is already fucking retarded for not making drones that kamikaze warp jump into enemy capital ships or planets

kamikaze warp jump into enemy capital ships or planets

The Holdo Maneuver was just as stupid as Luthen's lightsaber ship but at least they tried to retcon it in Rise of Skywalker.

Yeah, cut down a TIE fighter TO ESCAPE.
TIE fighters canonically have no shields. You should know this.
Clearly it has tactical value as shown in the scene where it is comes as a SURPRISE. Much like how if I were to pull a fucking knife out in an alley, it would surprise you.
However, aircrafts used for wars value the tactical value of practically and versatility over the element of surprise.

What's with this dude calling beam weapons lightsabers anyway.

It's not a beam weapon. A beam weapon has to hit a target or it will run out of power. A lightsaber goes X distance, stops going outward, but maintains power. That's what Luthen's ship has.

Yeah, cut down a TIE fighter TO ESCAPE.

Ok....but it can be used for things other than escape. Just because he used it in that situation doesn't mean it's only meant for THAT situation.
It would have tactical value in almost every battle.

Look at the goalpost shift. From deadliest fighter and beam that can cut anything to it would have tactical value. Lmao. As I mentioned, would it have tactical value? Sure. Does a knife have tactical value? Yes. But most soldiers prefer having a gun. Especially since warplanes have a fixed loadout.

using real world physics of how lasers work in fucking STAR WARS

Nigga are you dumb? Lasers also don't emit from 8 spots into a single point to charge up into a big beam that then flies off.
Are you mad about the Death Star superlaser not working like an actual beam weapon too?

From deadliest fighter

I still maintain that.

to it would have tactical value.

Both are true.

But most soldiers prefer having a gun.

Answer the question: WHY DON'T JEDI USE LASER BLASTERS?
And I said that Luther's lightsabers would be on an X-WING that has blasters firing forward. I never said the ship that it's on should have blasters you dumb fucking faggot. But an X-Wing with it's blasters + Luthens sabers = pretty much 360 degree attack coverage without the need for being head on with your enemy ships. Holy fuck kys!

>using real world physics of how lasers work in fucking STAR WARS

I didn't. I used Star Wars beam physics. In the Clone Wars they laser beams always hit a target. They weren't used like lightsabers.

Lasers also don't emit from 8 spots into a single point to charge up into a big beam that then flies off.

No, because it's in Star Wars and that's how it works in Star Wars. Death Star lasers work a certain way. Lightsabers work a certain way. Laser blasters work a certain way. And the Clone Wars long beam lasers work a certain way. Luthen had lightsabers.

on should

SHOULDN'T

Why don't jedi use laser blasters

Because swords are cool and it is fucking star wars. I am not sure what your cocksucking argument is but you are trying to find logic in a setting that is half sci-fi and half rule of the cool. Might as well start asking why aren't TIE fighters shielded or why doesn't the Empire also use the superior X-wing. Somethings are like that in sci-fi because they are COOL. Nothing about Luthen's laser beams break canon or are even overpowered. They are short ranged beams against unshielded target in a battle field known to SPACE with unlimited range.

By your definition, lightsabers are plasma meaning Luthen couldn't have lightsabers because those were clearly not plasma.

Because swords are cool and it is fucking star wars.

Ship lightsabers are cool and it's fucking Star Wars. So why don't the ships have them like Luthen?

I am not sure what your cocksucking argument is

My argument is that as many ships as possible should have Luthen's ship lightsabers because it give you a huge advantage on the battlefield and yes it makes you the deadliest ship in the battle.

Might as well start asking why aren't TIE fighters shielded

Empire operates on low cost hardware. Very much a Zerg or Russia in WW2 tactic.

why doesn't the Empire also use the superior X-wing.

See above. German Tiger tanks were great, but they were expensive and you couldn't mass produce them very efficiently.

Nothing about Luthen's laser beams break canon or are even overpowered.

Yes it does. Every ship should have them. Hold Maneuever broke canon because everyone said "why don't they just do that more often?"

were clearly not plasma.

How can you tell? Looks like a red lightsaber to me.

I like how you can justify empire lack of tech for their planes and then in the same post say every craft should have them with no consideration for context. What a cocksucking argument.

I like how you can justify empire lack of tech for their planes and then in the same post say every craft should have them

I didn't JUSTIFY anything, I'm giving you my best explanation for their choices (you brought it up, I didn't). If it were up to me they would have shields. If it were up to me they would have Luthen's lightsabers. But if I had to choose? I would take Luthen's lightsabers because shields on X-Wings don't seem to do too much anyway.
What a fucking retard you are.

Well shields are OP and every ship should have them. But yet TIE fighters don't. Curious.

Why did she say this again?

What? Huh? Because that's what you *would* say if you really were a senator on a diplomatic mission and were completely innocent and were being roughed up by soldiers.
She's playing along with the fiction because she's trying to act innocent.

Well shields are OP

What does OP mean?

But yet TIE fighters don't.

My guess is that the Empire operates on cheap, quick to produce military hardware for fighters. The Star Destroyer does the heavy lifting the TIEs do the chasing strays and mopping up.

Well maybe there is a reason why they aren't wide spread tech? I already mentioned this logic here .
If you can accept TIE fighters not having shields, you can accept a short range weapon not being widespread.

I can use my imagination about why certain spacecrafts can lack certain tech

But I can't use my imagination about why certain spacecraft can lack other certain tech

Curious

I already mentioned this logic here .

I debunked all that already.

If you can accept TIE fighters not having shields, you can accept a short range weapon not being widespread.

The rebel X-Wings have shields, the rebel X-Wings should have the Luthen lightsabers. Makes sense. The rebels are going for every edge they can find.

I understand that Kleya isn't Andor's sister. But why did they fly so close to it? Know what I mean?
Seems completely unnecessary to give Kleya a backstory as a war orphan and to have the child actresses be around the same age and appearance. And Andor even has a little flashback in that last episode.
All of it, causes so much unnecessary confusion...

Maybe they were really expensive and the rebels couldn't afford them? I don't know. Use your imagination in this sci-fi setting you dumbfuck.

What? Again, what is OP? What are you talking about?

>I can use my imagination about why certain spacecrafts can lack certain tech

It makes sense.

>But I can't use my imagination about why certain spacecraft can lack other certain tech

If it makes sense in my imagination I will say it, but it doesn't.
TIE fighters are barebone, no shields, and of course they wouldn't have this Luthen lightsaber. But X-Wings have shields, so it makes sense they would have this Luthen lightsaber. Even a Star Destroy or Mon Calamari Cruise would benefit from it.

The rebels had to choose between shields or laser due to lack of space. They chose shields. Happy?

Maybe they were really expensive and the rebels couldn't afford them?

But Luthen could......

I don't know.

Clearly.

Use your imagination

This is a dumb show that introduced a retarded concept. Should I "use my imagination" with the Holdo Manuever or just admit that it's a dumb idea? Fucking faggot.
I love you how ignore all the Holdo Maneuver arguments even thought both are identical. Do you like the Holdo Maneuver, yes or no?

They won't. The lasers eat up a lot of energy and can only be used once.

Wait you can imagine reason and context for why TIEs don't have shields or why the Empire don't use the X-wings but when it is the rebels you can't? Maybe you just retarded?

The rebels had to choose between shields or laser due to lack of space. They chose shields. Happy?

Then why not have them on the Mon Calamari cruisers? Why don't smuggling ships use the Luthen lightsabers.
You faggots just defend any nonsense. You are worse than midichlorian defenders.

Again. Shields or Laser. Luthen craft had no shields.

but when it is the rebels you can't?

I already explained. I will do it again.

Empire uses cheap, mass produced hardware for fighter craft. No bells and whistles

Rebels decided to have bells and whistles like shields. The Luthen lightsabers would be on those ships. Or at the very least the big cruiser ships. They are going for every edge they can get their hands on because they need it. The Empire doesn't.

Clearly not. They had the TIE avenger. Why didn't just mass produce the TIE avenger?

Luthen craft had no shields.

Source on this?

Source is my imagination dipshit. Unlike you, I can imagine why a technology isn't widespread.

Why didn't just mass produce the TIE avenger?

It was an experimental prototype. You mass produce things that are ready to be mass produced.

Source is my imagination dipshit.

Wow, so it's fucking useless LOLOLOLOL

I can imagine why a technology isn't widespread.

You are one of these "It doesn't have to make sense, I just use my imagination!" retards?

So when it comes to the Empire, there is context to cost, mass production etc. But when it is the Rebels, there is no context. X-wing can all be retrofitted with custom loadouts, ignoring they are also a mass production craft except costing more only. You okay?

How does it not make sense?

But when it is the Rebels, there is no context.

There is context. Empire wants fast and cheap, Rebels want some kind of technological edge. Leia even said in ESB "we have to protect the fighters" the Empire never says that, there TIE fighters are disposable.
Watch the movies, retard.

How does it not make sense?

"Just ignore whats on screen and make up headcanon!"

I watched the movies and half the tech in the movies don't make sense. I don't sperg out on Anon Babble about it.

Making up headcanon is claiming it is a lightsaber and it can slice through ANYTHING.

I watched the movies and half the tech in the movies don't make sense

It makes sense in the Star Wars universe. I'm not saying the Luthen lightsabers don't make sense, I'm saying it doesn't make sense that they aren't used more often.

I don't sperg out on Anon Babble about it.

I made a post and you've been replying for a while. We're sperging out together on Anon Babble.

Making up headcanon is claiming it is a lightsaber and it can slice through ANYTHING.

I've proven it's a lightsaber. It's not a laser beam (like on the Clone Wars vehicles) it's not a laser blaster like on an X-Wing, it's a lightsaber.

and it can slice through ANYTHING.

Whatever a lightsaber can cut through (flesh, metal) Luthens lightsabers can also cut through.

Okay anon. Everything a new tech shows up in star wars, we should cut to a scientist explaining the ins and outs of the tech. Like I don't understand how the Death Star is able to combine laser beams, therefore it makes no sense to me. I need a scientist from the SW universe to explain it to me so I don't sperg on Anon Babble like you.

You have not proven it is a lightsaber. Saying it is, doesn't make it one.

Seems pretty niche, we don't even know if that would be effective against a larger vessel. Really it was a dramatic invention for a cool scene that was then forgotten because that was all it was.

Okay anon. Everything a new tech shows up in star wars, we should cut to a scientist explaining the ins and outs of the tech. Like I don't understand how the Death Star is able to combine laser beams, therefore it makes no sense to me. I need a scientist from the SW universe to explain it to me so I don't sperg on Anon Babble like you.

I don't know how you think this is what I'm talking about. You are so retarded. This is your last (you). But here's my argument AGAIN

new tech in Star Wars

I don't care if it makes sense or not because it's fiction

but you can't just bring in new tech without an answer to "Why don't other ships have that?". I explained this with the Holdo Manuever and you ignored that comparison (because you know I'm right).

starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Beam_cannon_turret

Okay. Everyone go home. Arguments over. Its a beam cannon turret.

You have not proven it is a lightsaber.

I did.

laser beams in Clone Wars vehicles have to hit a target or their power will peter out. You can't just leave them on. Watch the battle scene on Geonosis. When they are on for a few seconds they either HIT A TARGET or TURN OFF because they can't maintain the constant stream of energy, like a lightsaber

What is this from? A fucking comic book? If it's not in a live action show or movie I don't care.

And those beams are clearly mini-Death Star beams (multiple small beams merging onto one spot). Luthen didn't have those. He just had one straight beam....like a lightsaber.

It's a beam turret cannon

Ah. Here comes the only canon that matters it what I consider canon headcanon.

The door gunners on the clone's gunship have something very similar.

I just went and rewatched the scene, I have absolutely no idea what this retard is on about now.

the beams go out of frame so we have no idea of their length

they were only active for 4 seconds at the most

Ah. Here comes the only canon that matters it what I consider canon headcanon.

No, only live action TV show and movies. If Andor contradicted something from Rebels, Andor is canon, Rebels isn't. And the cartoons are faggy anyway.

Your personal headcanon doesn't matter. It's a beam turret cannon. End of story.

Shooting at a target

Turning off because they can't just "leave them on" like lightsabers.
Luthen's ship can just leave them on....like lightsabers.

Beam turret cannon

Your personal headcanon doesn't matter.

Only fags like the cartoons.

It's a beam turret cannon.

It isn't. Luthen's didn't have those mini-Death Star beams, nor did it have to turn off like the Clone Wars ships laser beams.

Again regardless of your dislike of cartoons, canon is canon.

Yes, that's what the Clone Wars ship is. But NOT Luthen's lightsaber ship.
Just saying it "beam turret cannon" doesn't make it true. Prove your point with logic or fuck off.

Again regardless of your dislike of cartoons, canon is canon.

So now Andor fags are advocating for Filoni garbage being canon? You got me there.

It's a beam turret cannon. Emphasis on the beam. And how it passes thru a target.

I dislike filoni garbage. But I still consider it canon when discussing the lore. Because unlike you, I am not a faggot.

youtu.be/IIe_Ge-iaBA?t=100

No bros not like this! Beam weapons being active for more than 0.1s and sweeping across a target!

It's a beam turret cannon.

But all other "beams" don't act like a lightsaber. They either have to hit a target or turn off. Lighsabers can just stay on and keep getting power. On Geonosis they couldn't just turn those green beams on like a lightsaber, they had to be turned off if not hitting a target.
This is your last (you) if you don't dispute with something other than "no it's this thing".

Passes thru target

I am not a faggot.

Anyone who acknowledges Filoni garbage as canon is a faggot.

B-but Filoni and Kennedy say so!

Let me ask you, which speech is canon? The Mon Mothma speech in Andor or Rebels?

This nigga comes up with his own head canon and then disregards what he is shown. Bet he votes trump.

Beam Turret Cannon

they had to be turned off if not hitting a target

Or you know, they stopped firing because they fucking missed? What sort of retard trooper would go "oh I missed, better keep holding down the fucking trigger!"

Passes thru target

-Comics/cartoons don't count.
-Luthen's ship didn't have those mini-Death Star beams
-This is a still image, we don't know how long it can stay on. A lightsaber can stay on for a long time. The geonosis ship beams couldn't stay on for more than a few seconds.
This was your last (you).

Still a beam turret cannon

Or you know, they stopped firing because they fucking missed?

Why not just leave it on and spread it around. This pic is from a shitty cartoon but it's the proper way to use the weapon.

Why is this nigga so insistent on it being a lightsaber?

It's so fucking funny when you actually watch the scene too.

youtu.be/zJOoyrIbdHU?t=189

Like, the fucking beams go outside of the frame so I have no idea where he got the idea they are short. And they're only active for 4 seconds at the max so once again no idea where he got the "they just stay on like a lightsaber!!!!" idea from too.

But why must he insist it is a lightsaber. let's pretend it is a lightsaber. So what? Like what is the endgame here? Andor is bad because it has lightsaber on a ship despite the praise for the show being largely its character writing? It seems like he is fighting a fight against a shadow he made himself.

Like, the fucking beams go outside of the frame so I have no idea where he got the idea they are short

I never said they were. I said "laser beams have to be turned off because they can't maintain their power without hitting a target". The pics from the Geonosis battle that I posted prove this. Luthen left them on.....like a lightsaber.

. So what?

Why don't more ships have them. Remember the Holdo Manuever? People asked "why didn't they do this before?" Same idea.

Andor is bad because it has lightsaber on a ship despite the praise for the show being largely its character writing?

It introduces dumb things like this and Andor fans say shit like "I'M GLAD THERES NO LIGHTSABERS OR JEDI IN ANDOR"....but there's lightsabers on the ship and a "force healer"....

It's an beam turret cannon.

Are you sure you didn't?

A lightsaber goes X distance, stops going outward, but maintains power. That's what Luthen's ship has.