/tlou/ - The Last of Us general

So this person has just been sitting there for 25 years with no sustenance? That doesn’t make sense.

No "I'm fucking dead anyway why would i tell you anything" "Because i can make it quick or i can make it so much worse" exchange

Can they do anything right

He's clearly one of the WLF soldiers who got infected down there not so long ago

They say in the show that Leon got locked down there when the peace treaty was broken.
So maybe 2-3 years ago.

Ohhh

This show is a masterpiece

So you've never watched, read or played anything good. Noted.

Mazin: We can't add the spores in the show, they simply can only work in the games!

Also Mazin:

So much for that

The spore shit just makes sense with it being fungus.
I dunno why they didn't do it in the first place.

muh gas mask pedro pascal

there would've been spores in like one part of the entire season

Kaitlyn's acting mogs Bella so fucking hard its not funny. Compared to her, Bella is just standing there with an expressionless face. How can people take this seriously and enjoy this?

Her acting is pretty bad too

They just wanted to market that Pedro was in their show as much possible (him being a popular actor is the only reason he was cast in the first place) and covering up his face with a gas mask would have hindered that. Ellie doesn't need to wear a mask so suddenly spores again.
Its so fucking stupid because they only needed like 1 or 2 scenes involving spores and a mask but money grubbing and cold blooded business idealogy always wins over sense.

I mean in terms of representation it’s pretty important

My disappointment with S2 turned first to frustration and now to anger.
They've taken the best-written game of all time no I'm not baiting and no I won't argue about it and crudely carved it up, rearranged it, shuffled it into the vague shape of something consumable as linear TV slop, probably written with the assumption that the viewer will be watching it while distracted by something on their phone.

You've killed us both

Did I?

Kaitlyn is the better actor but I fucking love how Bella delivered that line.

The excuse he used was that the way the spores worked was way too videogamey for him to be able to implement it on the show
Now i wanna see what he's gonna come up with to justify himself

There really wasn't any need for spores anywhere in the story in the first game or the first season. Not a single character was meaningfully impacted by the presence of spores, no named character died from breathing in spores, hell you don't even decide when to put on a mask or take it off. It's a filler mechanic and it makes sense why it was cut.

The only real cost in the decision was needing to rewrite a reason for Ellie to reveal her immunity to Dina, which is trivial when the infected can just bite lol

all it took for people to stop calling tlou2 the worst written game of all time was to make a show that they hate more

Man, the older versions of TLOU1 Ellie are nice.

Show watchers, do you think they're going do the Rat King or axe it? And how are they going to explain Lev not being a real LGBT person but a member of a religious cult who pretends to be a boy so she doesn't get married off to and raped by a cult elder?

They are quite obviously going to leave the rat king and Lev exactly as is. Especially now that they’re getting blowback from gamers about deviating from the original

I think it depends entirely on the viewership at the end of the season.
The ratking would be fucking expensive to do.
If the viewership really is dropping off then I don't see HBO wanting to spend the money on it.

Also we still havent' got a shambler.

Crust didn't happen

Damn humiliation ritual then

Especially now that they’re getting blowback from gamers about deviating from the original

Rat King is basically confirmed with this last episode, they chekhov's gunned the lowest basement floor already when they mentioned B3 and Ellie/Nora only went down to B2 and it was mushroom-infested and full of spores.

How did that talentless nepo hack ever convince anyone he was some gifted writer?

Chernobyl is borderline a masterpiece.
I dunno how he managed it but I'm pretty confident now that it was a fluke.

Scary Movie 3 is also pretty good desu

Chernobyl is borderline a masterpiece.

I dunno how he managed it but I'm pretty confident now that it was a fluke.

Same thing happened with the writer for True Detective. It's happened before, and it'll happen again.

Cast him

My ex-wife
*cue laughtrack*

Ron Perlman.

YO LIL DONNIE

nepo

Do zoomers just use this word to denote anyone they don't like? You can call Mazin a hack but he was working away on absolute bullshit projects and uncredited re-writes for years before he finally made it. He's the opposite of a nepotism case.

why does scary movie 3 has a 5.6?
it's one of the best comedy movies since like naked gun 2

Comedy movies always come with a critic rating debuff. Pretty sure the naked gun 2 has like a 6/10

this show is gay and sucks but im gonna watch it

Liked it more in the game
youtube.com/watch?v=Ammym2gHbHc

The show does literally nothing better.
The only scenes in the show that are better are stuff that didn't happen in the game at all. i.e. The talkshow scene, the Jakarta scene, Jackson fight
And I bet if Naughty Dog did those scenes that they would be better

will abby have hairy pits in the tv show too bros?

I like Dever but that scene wasn't her best either

Very possibly not, sadly...

The only scenes in the show that are better are stuff that didn't happen in the game at all.

agreed, I like the new stuff they put out and thought there'd be more of it. I don't see the point of adapting it 1:1, they should go the FMA route and change it up a lot more. If it's horrible the video game is still there after all.

Honestly... if they had a different actress for Ellie and stopped focusing on the lesbian love story and made it a gritty revenge plot, the story is good minus the ending.

this is a cool shot

Why did they introduce the weird "connected" fungus plot? No spores is 100% because some executive did not want Pascal's face covered with how much they were paying him.

What was with the end? I liked the fight with a debuffed Abby. Are you upset Ellie didn't kill Abby?

At least it's been a upgrade what they been doing with the WLF and especially Issac, who's already definitely getting a far better treatment compared to how wasted he was on the game

I really thought that the whole tendrils and "connected" thing was there to make up for the "loss" of the spores

I’m still seething that this post-apocalyptic wasteland is this egalitarian wet dream where women are equally as imposing and authoritarian as men. Really breaks the illusion.

She just gives up out of nowhere after fighting through all the Rattlers. Think it could have been done better. Don't have a problem with forgiveness being the ending, thought it could have been done better.

check early life

Mazin was born to Ashkenazi Jewish parents in New York City's Brooklyn borough in 1971

yup, this ones going in my nepo compilation

loses two fingers

loses family

gets injured

for fucking nothing lmao

Yes. My king deserved justice.

I know. Doesn't explain how people keep getting infected at high rates like spores does

That should of been the ending you get if you choose to kill Abby, not when you spare her. Makes zero sense.

How is Ellie playing Future Days when the world ended in 2003? It didn't come out until 2013. Does the fungus let her see into alternate realities?

They respected the tight shorts

All is forgiven

The song was very iconic in the game so i guess they simply didn't gaf

Why did they even change the time period to 2003?
The only notable difference is that it made Tommy a Gulf War vet but he could've easily been an Iraqi freedom vet and it would've made 0 difference

She learned being consumed by negative emotions like HATE and REVENGE will cost a person everything they hold dear. Druckmann has spelled this out many times. Look at how much HATE and REVENGE have cost the Pallis. That was Druckmann's point.

To make the first season in >current year

but it's not our current year... it's an alternate timeline that stopped at 2003 technologically

Didn't the Seraphites win the war? Think it was a radio that said the WLF got wiped out on the island

The first season took place in 2023. I think that is why they moved it up 10 years

Her butt did look good

They both lost. The Seraphites entire island was on fire. The Seraphites will probably have an easier time recovering because they live off the land anyway but neither group will be the same again.

Not entirely stated but they definitely didn't do so good
youtube.com/watch?v=ctk7kdKZqs0

The Seraphites' entire village got razed to the ground with who knows how many dead. Most likely the survivors will just disband it, same as the WLF and whatever non-combatants were still at the stadium base.

On the podcast (which is mostly spoiler-free for viewers who have not played the game) episode for this last one, Maz and Druck basically confirm that yes they are doing the Rat King next season. At least twice, they refer to something unique on hospital level B3 which hasn't been seen yet

It impacts the 1st games simply by reducing visibility in some areas, accounts for increased infected like the generator basement and the dorm at the university and raises the players tension with those two things. It also provides for a number of story beats like the boston fedra soldiers being pissed people are sneaking out getting the cough when scavenging. It gives good motivations for lockdowns which then piss off the residents and makes both sides hostile to each other. It also proves to joel without a doubt early on when ellie can breathe it in and be fine, up till that point he's likely still weary of her immunity claim and his voice line about her breathing the spores proves it. It's a solid bit of story for the world still being dangerous when looking for supplies and new infected popping up without everyone needing a bite. Walk inti the wrong house or basement and boom, you get turned.

There is no way they aren't doing the Rat King, it's the most memorable part of Abby's half of the game, despite it not having anything to do with the rest of the story. They already set it up by saying there's three basement sublevels and Nora only got chased to level 2, level 3 is sealed off and was ground zero for the original outbreak patients.

Aye. It was so fucking epic.

Dude's got the vide

literally made for BAC

the best-written game of all time

For what it's worth, I agree. Or the most maturely written, at least. I think Bioshock has a more interesting setting and story but it does get campy. TLoU is unique in that it never falls into that schlocky writing style that even the best-written games tend to have.

ty anon I never noticed this bit of radio chatter in my playthroughs

trying to watch

all I think about is how much I wish Ellie was a hot actress (like swap Ellie for Abby) so I can see Dina and Abby kissing

think about how much I was Dina to use my mouth as her toilet and spit in it too

Elliesisters...

That's the sad and funny thing. Video game writing is so uniformly terrible that a competently executed basic cable zombie drama outclasses 99% of the market.

Do you think Bella secretly hates Isabela for being so pretty and cute and nice and feminine and likeable

Story?

Today I will remind them
youtube.com/watch?v=HMG5prrC1oE

dina exists in the game to serve as an example of Elile losing her loved ones going after revenge

Can someone AI Cailee into every Bella scene in s2 already? Imagine the outrage this would cause.

what does it add to the story?

that frumpy, hideous, pan-faced hermaphrodite who played Lyanna Mormont in GoT

trash liberal communist gay ass fucking faggot show

Why couldn't Ellie just learn to play the guitar left handed at the end of the game?

Someone could, but I don't think AI video modification and deepfaking is good enough yet. It would be seen as unconvincing slop.
In a couple years it will probably be possible to do it and make it seamless though

Whether or not she does that, it's unfortunate how she leaves the guitar leaning against the open window instead of at least putting it back in the case.
As if letting it succumb to water damage is her way of letting go of Joel

Why don't societies ever rebuild in zombie apocalypses? Couldn't they just secure a base and slowly clear out infected and continue to expand?

all this cope about "well why does it matter who we cast as ellie, you're not a pedo right???"

every other character is cast to look like their in-game equivalent

make it make sense shills

Abby? Dina? Tommy?

every other character is cast to look like their in-game equivalent

This is not true, you just don't see many complaints about it in other cases.

Even Joel looks pretty different from the game version, as Pedro has those Latino facial hair genes and can't grow it thick enough

ripoff of Annihilation

Honestly how will they proceed with the third game

Couldn't they just secure a base and slowly clear out infected and continue to expand?

These stories never take place on a long enough timescale for significant expansion to be necessary but they do show such things happening in Jackson.

It is indeed similar imagery but the first TLoU game did it before that

I aren't watching this slop after The Critical Drinker review

I think you have to do a totally different ensemble

it's even worse than his review

Ellie seeks redemption for her sins in Part 2 (real or perceived) and tries to make her life "fucking matter" the way she wishes Joel had allowed in Salt Lake.
There is a second playable main character who we haven't met yet, Abby appears in some supporting role but not as a playable protagonist.

Abby

Ellie

Dina

Joel

I haven't watched the show aside from clips and scenes on youtube but those four characters look nothing like their game counterparts. I did play through both games twice.

third game

Naughty Dog is finished. They cancelled all the planned DLC for TLOU2 and Interstellar is the most tone deaf attempt to cram every single trend people are completely sick and tired of into one game I've ever seen.

Cute jewess

Intergalactic, you mean.
I don't see people being sick of retrofuturism, with stuff like Alien: Romulus and the Fallout show being big successes.
We've barely gotten a glimpse of the gameplay, all we know is that there are robots and something resembling a lightsaber

No way man everyone loves ugly mystery meat dykes with shitty attitudes

open episode with two women as commanders/leaders

Like we don’t have enough feminism crap
Also, why the fuck is Ellie is happy?

natural gas baaaaaby

People say that she and Game Dina don't resemble at all, i think they both have at least one big and round thing in common

Why do they curse so much

the leftoids love this so much, they truly believe they'll be heroes in the upcoming apocalypse, little do they know they'll be corpses on day 1

Intergalactic could be promising

The dialogue exchange was so fucking weird

see dead scars

dina gets sick and Ellie regrets bringing her

dina tells Ellie the first time she killed someone

has to CONVINCE Ellie to get her revenge

Didn't Naughty Dog actually tone down some of the semitic features of the mocap actress who played Dina? I think they smallened her nose and made her look less like a hot Israeli woman soldier.

Most definitely not. They didn't include her tits however. And Shannon Woodward did mocap for face and voice, the face model was only that, a face model.

They totally shrunk her cute big schnozz and chin.

Jess telling Ellie to shut the fuck up was pretty cool honestly

It's just a different angle

They didn't shrink her schnozz and they used her as the face model specifically because she has a big one and looks Jewish.

Jesus that’s a big one

The face model isn't even Jewish.

You're face blind. They shrank the model's nose. It was a minor controversy when the game was released in 2020.

She has posted stuff about doing ancestry tests, and hinting that they revealed she is indeed very ethnically Jewish, even if she doesn't have an immediate familial or religious connection to it

where’s Abby anon

How do you respond?

Is it weird I actually enjoyed this episode aside from the beginning?

stalkers were cool

scars were cool

ellie sneaking in and killing Nora

Not that bad honestly

Yeah it's decent. My main gripe is that the way she kills Nora, even though it closely matches the game, is a jarring shift in tone and demeanor for the show's Ellie when she had only killed one other normal human in Seattle before that.

I actually found it the worst episode so far, and I unironically have enjoyed all the other eps because of Moner.

Is she the one Ellie chases down and murders when Nora is unarmed or is Nora the lady Ellie sneaks up behind and knifes?

This is Nora.

Abby up my ASS, gump!

Lmfaoooo

I would have loved to also see one of those big scar brutes from the game kek

I actually found it the worst episode so far,

Really? Worse than 4?
True, though I also feel like Jess coming at literally the last second to save Ellie and Dina was pretty cliche and cheap. Plus three dialogue is still really awkward

it’s haunted but empty

Oh, so like us

The scars are also just a little too cartoonish for me to take seriously

*ahem*…”the chopped of us”

Arguably she didn't murder Nora, rather Nora killed herself by running into an area filled with spores.

Bravo chud

Jewess modeled after the most Palestinian looking chick

what did they mean by this?

"Huge" budget

Flagship show

Only 7 episodes

2/7 episodes are filler

this doesn't mean anything

Thanks. Who is the woman Ellie sneaks up behind and slowly and quietly knifes? I think the woman is listening to an Ipod and Ellie sneaks up from some flooded area indoors somewhere. Was she a random baddie? I remember that part being ugly violent and it felt like something from Manhunt. I finished the game in 2020 when it came out but I don't recall some of the details.

Her name is Whitney, she's using a PS Vita (lmao) when Ellie grabs her. She's not a member of Abby's crew and never really does anything outside of that one scene where she dies

death to all vita owners

Oh yeaahhh. I remember her but totally forgot that she is in the game at this story point. Why did they leave her out for the show? Why is Ellie in the show not killing people and killing dogs?

Game

Veins already protruding all over her body and showing clear signs of infection from the spores

Show

Literally nothing lel

It was already bad enough that a lot of the infected clearly looked like regular ass people with some makeup there and there but c,mon

this is the level of acting gamers believe is better than Bella Ramsay

lmao

Because they know the chud criticism was right and they are correcting course. It was dumb how in the game Ellie kills 100 innocent people just to spare Abby at the end

NNNNGGGNNNGGHH

BRAAAAPAPPPPPPPPSHFFPP

*plop plop*

ahhhhh

The weirdest thing about the game was that they expected you to feel bad about Ellie killing those dogs. Enemies will call out the dog's names when she murks them sometimes. I love animals, but come the fuck on. They're trained killing machines trying to tear her apart. I'm sure those zombie dogs in Resident Evil were really nice and friendly to their Umbrella handlers too, but that doesn't mean I feel bad when Chris and Jill blow their heads off.

here I'll summarize for you:

Game

shit

Show

grounded and psychologically realistic

Fuck. That was dumb

Yeah I can't believe she bought a PS Vita either, Ellie

That's the one. Ellie in the game is evil and I still think TLOU2 has some of the most disturbing violence in all of vidya. Is the show Ellie in S2 really not a crazy unrepentant killer like game Ellie in the webm?

Game

crusty shit

Show

chopped shit

>Show

>grounded and psychologically realistic

lol

TLOU2 has some of the most disturbing violence in all of vidya

disturbing like the violence in the Saw films, where you just watch them and go "oh I'm supposed to be shocked by this", but the material loses its ability to emotionally resonate because emotional attachment to the characters is compromised.
you can get away with that in a game because there is gameplay to make up the slack, but its not good writing.

The only people that Ellie has killed so far in the show are 2, by that time in the game Ellie already has a kill count on the dozens

therapists in the apocalypse

What is this Mickey Mouse shit

Show Ellie is weird. She doesnt seem to care about getting revenge that much and feels like shes just going on a roadtrip with Dina across the country, being silly and making out. I dont remember season 1 because it was so forgettable, but in s2 Ellie has only killed one person so far.

uses example of the characters literally talking about character psychology

ironic.

I wouldn't call the average WLF soldier or Rattler "innocent," though most of them hadn't personally done anything to Ellie or any other Jackson people before they got in her way.
Remember, most Wolves are willingly obeying Isaac's orders to invade Seraphite Island and kill everyone there, including children

Put therapist in show

This show is deep now

Seriously?

Yet she spares Abby the top scar killer and sadistic torturer

Nah, I mean the violence you mete out against other humans is unsparing and stark. It isn't stylized like Saw except when you're fighting the bigger mold men. I'm not commenting on the story or writing.

Ellie is written as a character whose inner conflicts are dramatized by how she behaves, instead of being just a force of nature who is in a series of cutscenes to justify you taking over to run around shooting stuff.

when Druckmann decided he wasn't going to end the story with killing Abby he immediately made the story about the inner conflict instead of it being on the level of a Steven Seagal movie. the trouble is that he did it clumsily and in a medium where you're expecting to shoot 200 people on the way to the final boss.

don't talk about character motivations just make everything about basic "X kills Y" conflict

show is really fun and entertaining now

no. because its a show not a video game.