DUDE HAVING A STABLE WELL-COMPENSATED WHITE COLLAR JOB IS... LE BAD
Why did boomers and gen x eat up this psyop so hard in the late 1990s?
Why did productive white people in the suburbs make the you know whos so upset?
DUDE HAVING A STABLE WELL-COMPENSATED WHITE COLLAR JOB IS... LE BAD
white people are weird what do you expect
yeah bro, you know who hate it when they have obedient little drones working for them, you figured it out
It's encouragement. It makes the worker feel as if he's the Protagonist of his own movie while almost guaranteeing said worker will keep his job out of fear
No SCRUM
No story points
No daily standups
No kanban
No tickets
No project manager
No open office
No gender sensitivity training
No racial sensitivity training
No Gay Pride month
No Why you hate Trump weekly acitivities
what a bunch of funking wankers. you fucking niggers don't know how good you had it.
I have a paid off house, two cars, non-working wife and 2 kids, and three vacations per year on my boat, while working as a shoe salesman. Society has failed me.
this desu
the matrix reloaded explicitly states these fantasies are another means of control
No matter what's going on, people will bitch and moan about how horrible things are because people (particularly artist types) love to bitch
It just so happens that there was so little to bitch about in the 90s/early 2000s that a stable white collar job was the worst relatable thing they could think of
You zoomer niggers that have never had a real job don’t get it. You do a lot of pointless bullshit just for the sake of it so you don’t lose your job. Your work is completely unfulfilling and empty. You can be let go whenever they feel you’re not contributing. Your coworkers are all soulless husks pretending they give a shit . Some will genuinely care when pretending is much easier. You’re constantly road blocked with red tape whenever you need to get something done. Your career is mostly determined by how much you play politics with a bunch of morally bankrupt snakes playing the rat race. The upside now is the options for remote/hybrid work. But going to the same shitty little cubicle every day is soul crushing.
My dad was a constructive worker, and he built the country every day. He still will drive past a building, and say “I built that.” There’s pride in it. There’s no pride in my office job. I don’t feel like I’ve accomplished or built anything. I chose the best paying option I could get at the moment. And yes I do get paid much more than I would have expected this point in my life, but I do have a feeling of imposter syndrome that puts me in a constant dread that I’m unworthy because of how I’ve been basically winging it for my whole career.
Now in fight club when he finally feels alive after he beats a man, I understand. A man needs a tangible challenge and the accomplishment of building something.
yes, i much prefer never even getting to the interview stage for almost a full year.
We as men know either consciously or subconsciously that the modern office environment is beneath us and ultimately repugnant to our sense of self worth and dignity… The bleak and stuffy cubicle layout, muted tones, drop ceiling, fluorescent lighting. The intangibility of our efforts, the incorporeal company initiatives and goals, the depressing low effort celebrations. The passive feminine hostility that pervades the office hierarchy. The phoniness of corporate interaction, the fake kindness of coworkers. The sense that you’re easily disposable and your work isn’t important because anyone can do it.
All of it is unnatural to men and that’s why media critical of the modern office generates a lot of interest.
Living with mommy and daddy for the rest of your life isn’t the answer either. I would say maybe accept a lower paying job if it means doing something you actually enjoy. But that means not going into too much debt that you’re forced to make as much money as possible. Neet life is soul crushing in other ways.
I chose the best paying option I could get at the moment
"I don't feel fulfillment in work despite choosing my work based exclusively on money"
No shit, idiot. You could be a construction worker too, it's not a hard job to get.
imposter syndrome
Highly cringe. Millennial newspeak for low self esteem/ incompetence. Either way, trying to dunk on zoomers from a possibly undeserved position of financial stability is wildly out of touch
ill just live in mommy and daddys spare downtown appartment :)
but ANON they had to not dress like lazy slobs and also there was probably some sort of office politics or something
and no. No slavey wagey to build my character thank you old fuck.
They were spoiled idiots who didn't understand how good their lives were. They had the luxury of thinking they could just keep living their carefree life without worries and just be on permanent vacation.
Productive? Peter very explicitly laid out how he does less than 10 hours of actual work a week. The rest is bullshit like the TPS reports.
fucking this, old fucks don't understand how good they had it.
Some old fucking fat woman at my other job literally had trouble hearing and just did the same repetitive tasks like a robot would, and she probably made decent money too.
If you asked her to do anything else she would argue and whine and bitch for hours.
I think they forced her to retire.
Does anybody really like their job? Not really. So I’ve taken the best offer I got at the time. I’ve had big department pay bumps, annual salary increases, and bonuses. My current job isn’t even the highest pay I’ve ever had. I worked as a contractor at a pharmaceutical startup for a few months, and made a fuck to on overtime pay. But as far as stable, this one will definitely hold onto me. Even if I’m not the best at my job.
I have plenty of confidence. I’ve continually been hired for jobs I’m probably not the most qualified for. And my coworkers have a lot more experience. My training was definitely lacking at the beginning. Fake it till you make it is the way to go. I just go for it. But again, sometimes I feel I don’t know what the hell im doing. It’s just experience that you need along the way. Zoomers have been doomposting about jobs for years. I can shit on them if their autism has prevented them from landing a job.
Ironically, that was still a productive job. Jobs don't exist for long if they're unproductive. The hilarious truth is that MOST white collar jobs can be done in an hour or two every day without affecting productivity in any way but managers need to have a reason to be present 40-50 hrs a week to maintain the illusion that their jobs are worth their pay.
This is the same reason they're so fervent about getting people back into the office post-coof
Zoomers will never know whats its like to live in a prosperous society
If you lived and worked back then I guarantee you would have found something to complain about. People who constantly bitch about how things used to be better are demonstrably never satisfied. You will look back at now in 20 years and come up with some excuse for how it was better unless you get out of this rut.
Jobs don't exist for long if they're unproductive
This isn’t true at all. Downsizers are notoriously bad at actually eliminating unproductive jobs and every industry is cluttered with meaningless work and sometimes completely meaningless jobs. This was also one of the points the movie made.
The hilarious truth is that MOST white collar jobs can be done in an hour or two every day without affecting productivity in any way
Which means the other hours you’re forced to sit in an office are unproductive.
My work is constantly halted by dumbasses emailing me asking for information, as well as filling out reports. I get bitched at for not responding to them, and I get bitched at for not getting my work done.
bruh, how is it any worse than what we have now? it continuously gets worse and worse every decade. real wages have stagnated and offices are even worse with common floor plans and you have to hear pajeets yelling on headsets instead of even having your own cubicle.
I'm probably one of the few people who experienced this transition.
bruh
And a skrrt skrrt skibidi Ohio rizzler fanum tax to you too
Try working with pajeet suppliers. They lie to you and tell you what you want to hear. And their accents make it nearly impossible to understand them.
How many times a day do you make this thread?
When I did survey work we had to fill out a digital form in situ for every 100m portion of transect surveyed. So with 3 transects this worked out to 30 forms for every kilometer surveyed. For large stretches the landforms and soil profiles would be identical, but we were explicitly not allowed to copy any aspect of the forms besides our personal info and the project info codes. So we had to manually break out an iPad in the middle of working in the hot sun to fill out a form before we had to continue. Then we had to spend 2 hours after every work day emailing in the forms and transcribing a summary onto physical forms. We would get yelled at by QA/QC within an hour if we had forgotten to email a single form or if we didn’t tick a box on the paper forms.
I wrote “do you even read these” in the notes section of one of the digital forms and one of the report writers didn’t catch it for two whole years.
forced to sit in an office are unproductive
I prefer to think of it as collecting a lucrative paycheck for doing practically nothing. Especially now with computers. I just watch youtube and browse Anon Babble for 25 an hours (this is pretty great for where I live). Maybe someone conscientious would take issue with that but personally, I love it.
See but that’s the thing, anon. A lot of people are watched like fucking hawks in their office jobs. Lots of people have those digital spy programs installed on the desktops. Or extreme content blockers. Or programs that screech if you don’t jiggle your mouse every minute. Working one of those “light work heavy look busy” jobs is great if your boss only walks by once a day. Most people are under a virtual panopticon and are constantly wary of being caught.
Also, there are a lot of people who actually enjoy working and wish they were actually given a full day of work to do. There are also people who hate the office and would rather do 40 hours of work at home than 20 in an office.
use a phone with the screen filter gramps
Enough with the Gen X hate. What is the millenial / gen Z >My life is great but I'm going fucking insane movie?
I don’t think you’ve ever had the displeasure of working in a truly psycho office with an ass man who does random checks.
Also, some people don’t wanna sit on their fucking phone all day.
A company that would give you 10 hours of work a week yet diligently ensure you're working 40 is no company to work for. As for people who want to feel actually productive, there are plenty of jobs that pay worse but fill that niche. Hell, doordash alone is a reasonable alternative to employment since you can realistically earn 20-30/hr and work as much as you want
but see they do this monitoring AND force you to work in an office. How does that make any fucking sense? it's even worse than simply working in an office in the 90s.
A company that would give you 10 hours of work a week yet diligently ensure you're working 40 is no company to work for.
so basically every fortune 500 company? you are either naive or young
Big corpo or Big Army means doing as little work for as big of a budget as possible.
they really tricked you midwits into believing this "everything was always the same, everything was always bad" bullshit
Dude this job that has a demonstrably correlation to heart disease and depression is fine!
so what if the owners would never do that kind of work themselves because they know it's genuinely horrible for your life
just be livestock for rich people!
Why in our lord's name would you want to work for a fortune 500 company? They squeeze people on the lower rungs aggressively to try and compensate for their invariably over loaded middle/upper management. I'm not naive, I've seen how these large companies operate. Smaller companies on the state level are much comfier. They offer pay commiserate with the demands of the local economy and aren't large enough to have a management structure that necessitates an 'always be doing something' work environment
No, I am simply saying that the kind of person to post these threads constantly to reminisce about a past they never lived in would have been the kind of person to complain in any era.
ones hiring the other one isnt. simple as
Kevin Spacey was getting fired before he blackmailed the guy into a generous severance package.
I suppose it depends on where you live. For me, a local company is way more likely to be hiring in my area than a fortune 500 unless you want to be a military contractor (which I don't. I won't fuel the zogbot machine)
I've had some pretty cush jobs where i basically just get paid to stand around with a clipboard and watch other people work but i didn't complain about it and act like it's the worst job ever and act like a victim that i'm just a cog in the machine and what I do doesn't matter. Complaining about your job is something everyone does but pretending a low effort well paying job is hell on earth is stupid.
Norton was an actuary, Reeves and Livingston were both developers. Spacey's job was just a cold calling small time sales job that teenagers used to do and now Indian call centers handle. Those three probably made 3 times as much as him.