Andor season 2

I dunno why exactly I liked season 1 as much as I did, it's basically the only star wars slop that was actually deserving of being called good, mandalorian was okay. But they seem to have lost the magic with season 2, they're trying too hard to seem smart and are just making awful choices

cassian has become like Luthen Rael

look how he acts just like him!

yet he still chaffs at the idea of him

look how Mon is becoming disconnected from the rebellion

let's do a ton of shitty cuts from rape attempt to wedding rave to show this

I'm starting to think season 1 was simply a fluke, it told an interesting story about a guy going from grifter to insurgent and all the effects his action had on various people. Now I'm not sure what it's going for, but it's falling short.

starslop

grow up

When did things get so out of hand that StarWars became lesbian slop?

You're dumb and shouldn't try to discuss things.
Just go watch the filoni slop.

your general thesis is potentially valid but your specific critiques are weak and vapid

As someone who hasn't watched any other star wars media since 2015, I watched season 1 of Andor recently and thought it was a 5/10.

Tony Gilroy should direct people to their seats and let George Lucas direct THX 1138.

I watched like 15 minutes and began skipping through and then I ended it and quit watching. Boring slop ass show. how it has an 8.2 I have no clue....

Season 1 was shit too. It was embraced by the "zomg I'm sorry it doesn't have le lightsabers, maybe this isn't the show for you" crowd that tries to be above all that. But the reality is that it was a poorly paced, very bland show. It also didn't look or feel like Star Wars. You can do that without Jedi or lightsabers, but for the most part it looked like generic Amazon prime scifi show.

how it has an 8.2 I have no clue....

its objectively good story telling

it was a poorly paced, very bland show

aww poor baby didn't have enough blaster fights and explosions to keep you interested? I'm sure theres plenty of capeslop that would better occupy you and your 17 neurons

Andor season 1 had the worst pacing of any piece of fiction I ever had the misfortune to consume. You could have cut half the cast and told the same story in 4-6 episodes.

The beginning part where he was stranded between the two groups I was confused about.
What was the point of adding that in?
Should have just focused on the spider planet thing instead of jumping around unrelated stuff so much.

It's great compared to other Disney works. I don't care about the downsides as I'm not in charge of the show or IP. That's purely irrelevant.

aww poor baby didn't have enough blaster fights and explosions to keep you interested?

You are literally the "I'm a le smart Star Wars fan" that I described. Just because you don't have blasters and explosions doesn't mean you can't have a well paced story.
And Andor had the stupidest fucking thing in Star Wars when Luthen flew a ship that had fucking GIANT LIGHTSABERS coming out of it to slice enemy ships. Fucking retarded.

Andor season 1 had the worst pacing of any piece of fiction I ever had the misfortune to consume. You could have cut half the cast and told the same story in 4-6 episodes.

This. It would have been pretty good as 2 part movie or a very short tv season. If there's one thing Star Wars isn't it's slowly paced.

aww lil babby doesn't want magic in his staww waaawwzz show? how dorable

reeee I'm not being fed a mcguffin chase with story beats every other minute reeeee

also there was 7 seconds of a silly thing and therefor the entire show is ruined

you're embarrassing yourself

aww lil babby doesn't want magic in his staww waaawwzz show? how dorable

What are you even talking about? You think it's a good idea for a ship to have giant fucking lighsabers on it? Why doesn't every fucking ship do this? It's as dumb as the Holdo maneuver.

>reeee I'm not being fed a mcguffin chase with story beats every other minute reeeee

Never asked for that. But endless padding and dull slow placing hurts the show.

>also there was 7 seconds of a silly thing and therefor the entire show is ruined

Wow, you're a retard. My point was that Andorfags somehow think this show is above other Star Wars because it's more grounded, when in reality it has one of the dumbest fucking things ever done in the entire franchise.

Never asked for that

you're complaining that things aren't happening fast enough to keep you entertained. you need the showrunner dangling keys in front of you like a troglodyte

when in reality it has one of the dumbest fucking things ever done in the entire franchise.

damn you're never going to recover from those 7 seconds of a silly thing happening. I'll donate to your gofundme because you're really suffering

you're complaining that things aren't happening fast enough to keep you entertained.

Yes, but I never asked for what you suggested. Tighter editing, less eps, would have helped the show.

damn you're never going to recover from those 7 seconds of a silly thing happening.

So now it's just a "silly" thing? So now Andor does silly things?

The S2 plot that's a WW2 spy thriller in Space France is great.

Frankly, I think there is too much shit going on that has barely anything to do with each other. I can count just how many separate shit is going one I think.

stolen tie fighter prototype

arranged wedding

Illegal Aliens

stealing fuel

rebellion in spider planet

tensions with mother and dating?

drug abuse/trauma?

recovering hidden bug

lesbian relationship

and maybe some more I missed. But I think a lot of these don't tie up in a satisfying way that connects.
I don't remember if season 1 was like this, but I didn't particularly enjoy what I saw so far.

low quality bait

I wished they just focused on that instead of trying to juggle the boring bits.
by far the most interesting plot line.

I need faster story telling but stop characterizing it like its retarded because its actually super not retarded

no, its retarded. the pacing is great, its just not for you. sometimes its ok to just say "this thing isn't for me" instead of "this thing is wrong because its not catering to my personal preferences"
thats why I keep telling you to go watch capeshit. thats something thats for you

So now it's just a "silly" thing?

yes, and it was 7 seconds and entirely forgettable. its probably the silliest thing that happened in the entire series, which is why you're so eager to rest your hat on it. intellectually lazy, but then again you're a retard so its likely the best you can muster

I'm starting to think I only really like sci-fi prison breaks and should just watch face-off again

Reminder all nu wars is faggot shit

no, its retarded. the pacing is great,

It's not. r/starwars agrees with you. Think about that for a minute.

sometimes its ok to just say "this thing isn't for me" instead of "this thing is wrong because its not catering to my personal preferences"

It's slow and has the light saber ship.

yes, and it was 7 seconds and entirely forgettable.

So was midichlorians. So was the Holdo maneuver. But once it's there it exists and you wonder "wait, why didn't they always do this". I love how you are excusing shit writing because you like a show. And I bet you were all "ZOMG IS THAT A LIGHTSABER ON A FUCKING SHIP!! WOWZERS!"

Also, can someone explain the work visa thing?
How does this work in a galaxy wide Empire?
Where are these undocumented immigrants coming from? Outside the empire?

I dunno why exactly I liked season 1 as much as I did

Presumably the production values in general, the prison arc, the Syril / Sgt. Mosk dynamic, Kleya, Luthen in the latter half (but not the first half, because his meeting with Cassian was offensively stupid), the ISB meetings, and the musical homage to The Battle of Algiers
You may also have sensibly enjoyed the Mothma bits, but the show has a problem with giving us a bunch of anti-climaxes
Apart from these, you may have been influenced by effusive praise from others (many such cases).
Anything not covered by the above is mediocre to bad (especially the literally-pointless first two episodes).

How does this work in a galaxy wide Empire?

it doesn't need to work, it just needs to be a tool available to enforcers. it gives the imperials a legal pretense to shake down workers and bully/exploit people who can't produce valid paperwork

Where are these undocumented immigrants coming from?

anywhere? maybe they're not citizens, maybe they're criminals, maybe they're from some rural moon and never got official work authorization. its literally just bureaucracy, so the empire can set the rules and boundaries however is convenient for their control

It's outstanding short with the arcs. Notable for prestige drama.

also there was 7 seconds of a silly thing and therefor the entire show is ruined

That's cute coming from people who threw an autistic shitfit over helicopter light sabers in a singular episode of Rebels.

When I say Tatooine
You say sorry

I figured it was supposed to show off how scattered and disorganized most rebel groups still are. Although we really didn't need two episodes with the jungle retards to get that point across.

she should have just put out

I'm so happy Kathleen managed to blackmail Tony Gilroy to put a chick in it and make her gay.

Unironically yes. If she had just endured the 3 minutes of humiliation her friend would still be alive.

Your take is valid and I agree with the sentiment. All posters ITT seething and dismissive are actually paid shills, discord trannies, and "professional" comment section disruptors specifically pushing a pro Disney agenda to gaslight normal people into thinking normal thoughts are crazy. And also Zoomers.

S1 was awful and out of like a 12 ep season tops like 25% of it was prison slop filler with literally repeated scenes, its srs bsnss sw for babies like how rots is sooooo srs

I have a bad feeling that they want us to care not because they're setting things up, but that we're supposed to be invested already. That rebel chick dying isn't ramping into another, more interesting plot point, we're actually supposed to have cared that she died. I don't give a shit that she's dead, or that she and her lesbian friend made up in the first place. I don't give a shit about the shop assistant trying to recover the recording device. I don't give a shit about Cassian's girlfriend and her drug problem. I don't care about Mon Mothma and her husband prancing around in silk robes drinking cocktails every single scene.
This isn't a show about plots, it's a show about characters, and that's bad news, because there's only like three characters I actually care about and the titular character isn't one of them.

Hahaha damn. Served. the only thing I will add is that also the alien prosthetic costumes look worse than Teletubbies when the SW aesthetic is literally the number one thing this show is trying to boast about

the show is literally what if yoda cheated on his wife and had to pay taxes adult manbaby slop, you already lost the second you took it seriously
its star wars for virgin retards who didn't grow out of hitting each other with sticks pretending to be jedis when they were kids

Season 2 started out extremely strong imo and the wedding scenes were excellent. I fucking love Mon Mothma. But eps 4,5,6 were kinda meh, I can't place it, I just don't care for space french people I guess.

upvoted!

That's like your opinion, man

The show looks fantastic and the acting is great but... it's kinda boring and meandering.

You know what a good idea for an episode would be?

Half the episode we cut to a dance party and the other half is just people rambling on and on about shit nobody actually cares about

Also throw in an abrasive, shrill, Jewish mother who is disappointed in her son