Do you sometimes feel sorry for the orcs?

Do you sometimes feel sorry for the orcs?

Why feel sorry for them? They enjoy warfare. They get what they see as an honorable death in battle. I'd feel sorry for slaughtering an opponent that hates war and prefers peace.

They enjoy warfare.

They don't though. They are forced into the service of the dark lord by fear and compulsion

Fear of...? He literally can't do shit.

That's just to get them to follow orders so they don't attack as a disorganized rabble, which is what they desire in their heart: an unbridled berserker style assault with no strategy, only raw aggression.

They hate marching but they love fighting. If you watch the scene from op's pic, they immediately get into a fight with humans who are also serving Sauron.

no

They are the Middle Earth version of the descendants of Caine. They are a representation of mankinds evil.

Like niggers

They enjoy warfare

We don't want to go to war today, but the lord of the lash says nay nay nay

I feel sorry for demons

Rankin/bass aren't an authority on tolkien lore, I am (I've read the wiki).

‘We’ll see. But anyway, if it does go well, there should be a lot more room. What d’you say? – if we get a chance, you and me’ll slip off and set up somewhere on our own with a few trusty lads, somewhere where there’s good loot nice and handy, and no big bosses.’

‘Ah!’ said Shagrat. ‘Like old times.’

I did in this movie. The character design is a "so ugly its cute" thing for me, especially when they have sad eyes.

Gandalf says he does in da book
The orcs are more scared of Sauron than anyone else

IIRC, The Orcs are basically meat robots with no soul or thoughts. Morgoth tried to create his own life, but it came out as fucked up freaks with no soul and who can only hate and these were the orcs.

Morgoth didn't possess Flame Imperishable, he wasn't able to create life ex nihilo, orcs are the corrupted children of Ilúvatar

no because they are ugly bastards

orc verbally confirms my claim here that they love battle (raiding for loot) but hate following orders

raiding is not the same as war though

the song was pretty nice

This, essentially brown people

no, no, you don't understand... systemically raiding villages isn't ahkshually warfare

t. jörgen jörgensön

come it, its a medieval fantasy setting
do you believe the Rohrim didn't do any raiding?

we don’t wanna go to war today

fake. Tolkien included a whole scene with two orcs reminiscing the good days before sauron that you movie secondaries never learn about.

Who would they raid? Gondor is an ally. The Dunlendings have jack shit to steal. There is no other civilization for hundreds of miles because Middle Earth is depopulated as shit.

yeah, they don't want to go to war and fight as an organized force, they just want to wander around fighting and killing whoever they come across and steal their shit

Who would they raid? Dunlendings? What, was edoras running low on lice and boiled tree bark?

I mean historically speaking they raided the shit out of the dunlendings. I find their characterization as a misled but ultimately opressed and mistreated people interesting. Even though Tolkein was an anglo-saxon fanboy he didn't shy away from mirroring what the saxons did to the welsh in the rohirrim/dunlending dynamic.

Sounds more like they didn’t wanna get out of bed

muh cornish

How are you even typing this 3,000 feet underground? Get down back into the mines, taffy.

He’s basically a demi-God. His powers are a lot more substantial than portrayed.

"good old days without bosses" for orcs means thousands of years ago before Morgoth and not recent decades wherein Sauron was dead*

I don’t think about them at all

Morgoth tried to create his own life, but it came out as fucked up freaks with no soul and who can only hate and these were the orcs.

『"I can still save them!" says the Eternal Leftist / Future Morgoth Worshiper』
Remember, Orcs don't have "Existentialism"; they don't make their "own kinda music/meaning". They are evil by nature. Malum in se incarnate. They are not mislead, or manipulated, or misunderstood, they are evil creatures by Essence; they have an evil form that dictates what evils that can do with their existences.

Did Tolkien hate women too? Asking from Kazakhstan

No, he seemed to portray them well. Never referred to them as sluts. Whether it's Valar, Elves, or Humans, the women were done fairly in the literal sense of the word.
I guess there was Shelob, but she was some spider-monster bitch.

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The Hobbits have literally no woman in it aside from Bilbo's mom, who doesn't even appear.

let me write about my muse...

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There are no women in the fellowship either, now that I think about it. Problematic.

Asking from Kazakhstan

USAID at work!

I didn't say the saxons weren't justified, I just said the characterization was interesting