An actual discussion thread for those who watched the show
What did you think about the choice to not make it a murder mystery and instead a character study of the perpetrator? It worked for most of the episodes but it made the investigation at the school in episode 2 feel completely pointless
whats wrong with murder? It happens all the time in my city. Is the UK different?
This is just an entire show based on that Hollyoaks character. They keep making shows to complain about nonexistent violent White incels, but will never make one about the real child prostitution rings or brownoids really going around stabbing kids to death.
Murder is a part of life, everyone does it, even animals do it. And the animals that don't kill are stupid.
for someone going in blind, a person might think "oh, did he actually do it."
it got answered.
next they might think, "well, why?"
it got answered.
that's it. the director probably thought he was making some big deal bringing attention to it, but it's just a 4 episode show. it's only relevant to this one character. it's not some big mind-blowing exposé into the minds of kids or something. it's just a show, among 100 shows that will be pooped out this year.
episode 2 is about how the school is system is fucked, working more like a prison than a place where kids are taught something. it's all part of the problem
The only complaint they made is that they show too much telly in class
The school system is fucked becausee normal people are forced to be around niggers that dont want to be there.
He's a fucking incel Chud mary
The show is decent but what's interesting is that Starmer is going to use it as propaganda. Also it shifts the blame for incel targeting from pink haireds to anti sjw grift crowd.
All chid feminists are crying about this show
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it could have all been prevented if one of the girls in the class gave him a handy
What the fuck. If that's all it took, just 10 minutes and you could prevent this immense tragedy you would be cruel not to do it.
Why wasn't the kid able to get a GF? He was good looking kid for a 13 year old.
Its stupid we're not educating these girls that they could save lives with hasty and technically sound handjobs. Where is UNICEF? Where is the Bono? Where is banksy?
this, women are so insane and selfish
just fuck one(1) incel, it'll take each of them like 10 minutes, or even just a select few if they want to cure multiple incels, every incel can get pussy and this entire crisis can be entirely averted
Because of that damn computer
I never understood why grabbing a titty was so bad. It'll make the man's day immensely but at the most slightly inconvenience the woman.
Is it true that this literal antiwhite propaganda piece is shown to kids in school?
Yeah I'm not watching this slop
Just saw this new show... holy shit we need to ban social media immediately and make it mandatory viewing in schools
this is the most astroturfed shit I have ever seen
He goes outside and has friends though. The only things we hear about him doing on the computer is using instagram. He's basically a normie / chad
The british government quite literally funded this propaganda just to immediately turn around and be like ZOMG did anyone else realize this? I guess you all have to support this conveniently drafted online censorship bill, which I happen to have a copy of right here
imagine your teacher not wheeling up the good olde tv to play some classic kinos like the last of the mohicans, dances with wolves, naked gun, etc
it's on twitter
it must be true
And said by the creators.
at what point did the creators directly blame immigrants, then?
I guess you all have to support this conveniently drafted online censorship bill, which I happen to have a copy of right here
this, though they'd already managed to sneak that bill through parliament before the show aired.
Various UK governments (both labour and conservative) have been trying to pass that bill for decades. They finally managed to get it through and were left with this propaganda piece just hanging in the wind because they didn't expect to get it done.
You Americans should loan some of your guns to you cousins across the Atlantic. They need it more than you do
The third episode was the only good one. Would've liked if they went more into the incel stuff for the lols.
Kind of disappointing.
Why did they breach the door and bring a tactical team to arrest a child?
He was just chimping out with a knife 12 hours before the arrest
They didn't. They blamed toxic masculinity dipshit, you aren't even paying attention
britbongs are making policy based on this 4 episode show
didn't watch
BUT WHO WAS NONSE?
one eye covered
What did this mean again?
They didn't.
said by the creators.
or that's what (they) want you to think.
It was kino, especially episode 3.
Since 2016 there is starting to be quite a few solid shows that Anon Babble normies and outragebait addicts have shitted and farted over.
This is some Andrew Tate bullshit.
Germanfag here. We now have schools where up to 70% of children havw a migrant background and up to half cant properly speak german. Lets not even talk about math and writing.
These kids make it impossible to have a normal class. There are literally classes where the arab kids just speak in arab amongst each other and fuck around ehile the teacher tries to teach class for the 30% of kids who can even understand her.
Lefties and especially lefty retarded women have doomed the west. Its already over. It will juat take a couple of decades until the Germans die out of age. Then peole eill see that 70% of peole will be migrants from shit hole cultures
Secret pirate
If they truly show this to kids at school i bet the migrant kids will be laughing their ass off. They know who does this crimes and they will laugh seeing how thr media is too scared to name the real peole.
The show was good but it's also very obviously a propaganda piece that the Labour government will use to make the population more in-turn with their draconian safety laws
Being a virgin is wrong when you are a 13 year old Hollywood Pedophiles
80/20
Survival of the fittest. You lost.
great acting, impressive gimmick with the one shot thing, especially in episodes 2 and 4, but other than the fact that its a propaganda piece, I dont understand why they want to show it in schools, it seems like the parents are the target audience. I was kind of angry because its misery porn that offers 0 solutions and never even tries to ask the question "why are young kids turning to andrew tate types for advice?"
Good behavior zone in front of George Orwell plaque
How ironic
Nonce comment.
Muhammad chads, we won.
It’s a well acted, well shot and in my opinion well written show for the most part but I can’t help feeling like it’s just more Netflix idpol propaganda slop designed to polarize audiences and keep us at each others throats. Like most contemporary shows, it never felt like one that presented its ideas and then left the audience to make its own conclusions but rather rammed them down their throats.
Or maybe I’ve just been staring into the abyss for too long, who knows. Anyway, I’d rate it at around the same level as Chernobyl - A clearly well made and engaging exploration in a format that you’d think wouldn’t really lend itself to a tv show, but one that leaves you feeling a little bit grimy afterwards at how much of a rube you were to basically pay to watch propaganda.
So to play doubles avocado on some of this shit, I have three kids and really don't want them to be on social media or for there to be any smartphones in their schools. That stuff is undeniably toxic and has fucked up the current generation of youngsters completely.
As for good behaviour zones, I live near to a homeless hostel and used to have a lot of problems with tramps hanging about drinking and having arguments outside my bedroom in the middle of the night. The council put up some 'no alcohol' signs, and it just meant that we could get the police to come and move the tramps along quickly, it got rid of the low-level nuisance and now the street is quiet at night.
On the race of the perpetrator in the TV show, the whole thing was put together by the guy playing the dad, he wanted to be one of the main cast, he's white, ergo the kid is white too. It fits a pattern, but I suspect that race didn't really come into their thinking. If it did, then there might have been some recognitiuon that the point of this thing is 'it could happen to your kids', and they know that most Brits are still white and wouldn't really identify with that message if the show was about another angry negroid stabbing people.
This sort of stuff is where the civic nationalist in me comes out. My son is at an inner London school so there's a lot of browns, but the main distinction is class. There are kids with immigrant parents, but a lot of them are highly educated professionals with well-paying jobs who are pushy about standards and expect good schooling for their children. At the same time you have poor white kids with single mums who don't really give a shit about whether their children have a good education. Immigration is ok so long as the immigrants are upper-middle class secularists who speak perfect English, it's the dirt poor thirdies who cause all the problems.
stephen graham could've given himself a black wife so the kid could be mixed race, that way you solve the problem
Pedo.
Still a black kid stabbing people, and whether (((the media))) likes to admit it or not, most British people are totally accustomed to the idea that stabbing people is to be expected from black kids. They needed the boy to be an innocent looking white, or else it wouldn't have any shock value.
As a character study it's very shallow. Episode 2 felt like a Law and Order episode trying to update you on all the real stuff influencing the story. Episode 3 was relatively interesting but barely scratches the surface of Jamie's psychology and incel ideology. 4 was boring as fuck but the ending was strong.
I think for incels, Jamie isn't a sufficiently sympathetic portrayal. Or perhaps not pitiful enough. His violent outbursts don't reflect the typical quiet resignation of incels. But that's also what happens when you try to marry it to a completely separate phenomenon (rising knife crime) to try and legislate social media control, the details get lost.
Why is everyone suddenly pretending this slop is a masterpiece? the fuck??
I haven't seen it yet, but the discussions I've seen online seem to assume that some kind of consciousness raising among young men will solve the problem. I don't think that can possibly work because young men and women live in increasingly separate worlds. Young men mostly see themselves at the bottom, struggling to earn scraps. This inspires resentment and envy. Women are encouraged to see themselves as empowered and desirable, even if it's delusional. This inspires narcissism and contempt for those with less. When these two outlooks collide, it's inevitably going to get ugly. In order to resolve the problem, we would have to give up cultural myths about the value of "the grind" and extend empathy to young men. We would also have to diminish the culture of narcissism that has been embraced by women. We'll do neither, so the gender war continues.
You know what's the thing that really doesn't work about this show?
The fact that Jamie both has the confidence to tease and shittalk an attractive adult female, but is somehow a buckbroken incel.
Kids that confident and mouthy don't end up unable to score.
It has extremely good acting and is a mould-breaking show in several aspects, calling it slop just shows everyone you feel targeted by it.
IMO, it's not about incels and I think the show tries (and maybe fails) to make the point that of course he's not an incel, he's 13 ffs. It's more of a point about how the constant stream of social media these kids consume exposes them to ideas about sexuality and "masculinity" that they are too young to understand. I took it as "this girl bullied him for being an 'incel' despite having only a superficial understanding of what that even means," while the boy has been fed ideas of what masculinity means by grifters and ideologues without any kind of backstop; his dad is too distracted and busy to notice any of this and so he doesn't have a more positive role model.
Anon, we're civilized human beings. That means only the government and doctors can murder you.
Kek, this year a white guy murdered three women with a crossbow after listening to Tate.
The bill passed literally years ago. 2023 I think.