When book adaptations will surpass the source material?
When adaptations will be so faithful that feels like you are reading it again plus all the visual experience?
When Anon Babble > Anon Babble?
They already have, many times
A Clockwork Orange
American Psycho
Fight Club
The Shawshank Redemption (and literally all Stephen King books, he's a hack)
Jurassic Park
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? (Blade Runner)
Maybe I should clarified it more, when it's gonna be the standard?
The films you have mentionated are great, no doubt, but they're the exception, not the norm.
You don't see scifi, fantasy, adventure, action films that surpass their source material, at least, not yet.
Jurassic Park
rereading that book was wild. Half the book is Grant being a 6'2 barrel chested all american bad ass who punches multiple dinosaurs in the fucking face, and then the other half malcom goes on some schizo rousseauian rant about how we should return to monke.
Agreed on all
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep
I only wish they included the religious/empathy tv thing, and Rachel being more of a scheming temptress
The Lost World is even stupider.
What's with the autistic obsession with one medium overtaking another medium? There are some fenomenal movies sure but there are times where you just want to read a goddamn book. Also, some stories would never work as a movie. I dare you to make a faithful adaptation of The Magic Mountain, where a quarter of the book is two autists arguing over shit no sane person cares about. Some stories work both as a movie and as a book, like LoTR; reading Tolkien is a marvelous experience, but I'm not going to pretend that the movie trilogy wasn't awesome as well, they both deserve praise even if for different reasons. It mostly comes down to what these media can do to tell a story. "Show don't tell" is bread and butter of screenwriting, but it doesn't apply nearly as much to literary works.
When you learn speaky english?
What's with the autistic obsession with one medium overtaking another medium?
It's not overtaking, but creating even better things, if you enjoy books that's great, me too, but I also want to watch those mental images that I created by reading that masterpiece in the big screen. I don't know why some "book supremacists" take it as a bad compliment that you want to see your favorite book perfectly translated to the audio-visual medium.
Also, some stories would never work as a movie. I dare you to make a faithful adaptation of The Magic Mountain, where a quarter of the book is two autists arguing over shit no sane person cares about.
I totally disagree, technology is constantly improving, all stories will work for films. AND I would have no problem watching 2 autists arguing if the script is welldone. Not all films have to be tiktok effects for kids with fried dopamine receptors or "muh modern cultural reference".
complains about OP being ESL
"speaky"
he's also an ESL
Retard detected.
I'm autistic and if I were to be the guy who wrote it, I could probably come up with a great adaptation
religious/empathy tv thing
First time I heard about this, what was it?
Pic is almost accurate, the Anon Babble character just needs to be more african-american.
Cool, maybe I'm too optimistic but this's why I want AI to triumph, imagine being free to create the art you want totally free and without any BS from Hollywood or any other endogamic "artistic" club. And then share it to other people equally passioante that will take inspiration from it to create an even better piece of art.
Constant creation, constant improvement for all that want to participate and are passioante about it.
A Clockwork Orange
Yes
American Psycho
Absolutely not
Fight Club
Sure
The Shawshank Redemption (and literally all Stephen King books, he's a hack)
Yes, any adaptation that significantly shortens a King story and carves out the filler is better than the book
Jurassic Park
Kids movie
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? (Blade Runner)
No
JP is a children's book too
Absolutely not
If only we got a proper sequel.
>Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? (Blade Runner)
No
Why not?
Henry Wu is actually a good guy and dies heroically turning the power back on when he is eviscerated by raptors
Hammond is a penny pinching Scot who fucked everyone over and spent as little money as possible building the island. Gets eaten by compys at the end. Spielberg saw him as sympathetic and made him a nice guy in the film
Muldoon uses an RPG, not a shotgun, to kill dinos, as their central nervous system is evenly distributed meaning that headshotting a charging raptor means it will keep running at you, he also survives in the end
The LA lawyer is actually a good guy and likes kids, he helps Muldoon capture escaped dinos & track the T Rex. He dies of dysentery for some reason
Grant and the kids get stalked by the adult T Rex on the river for half of the book
The velociraptors have been breeding in underground concrete drain pipes and escape to the mainland in the end
The Godfather films are better than the novel, but the author also wrote the screenplay.
imo the movies practically replace the novel entirely
Moby dick (1956). I hated the book.
when did you read it? Book is full kino but I can imagine if I read it before I was 30-35 I would have hated it.
Why Hollywood had to ruin it?
Your only chance is to adapt bad books or to make the-stars-were-aligned masterpiece adaptations of mid books
It would be mediocre slop, which is better than current output, but still shit
I guess at least would be personalized slop
Trainspotting is my favorite adaptation of all time but the book is still much better.
Hollywood is not the only cinema industry.
Also, what about AI and its future infinite possibilities?
JP (1 only) is a masterpiece
Why it has to be slop?
Ofc there are lazy people that will upload the first shit the make, but others will spend time crafting it.
Again, technology is constantly improving, we don't have to think in such a short-time with all the progress that we can achieve.
Loved that movie, but the book is a masterpiece
Didn't read the book, why is superior?
Also, what about AI and its future infinite possibilities?
Why it has to be slop?
they aren't infinite. It will get better at the things it can do, and will go nowhere with the things it can do. Anything requiring being aware about what are you doing and why will be out of its grasp. And creating stories, art, whatever requires quite a lot of that
Long story short: a blind from birth person will never understand colors, no matter how good he will become at using coloring tools
The thing is, you are the mind, the AI jut express what you have in mind, if you take the time and knowledge to create the art, the AI just express it in the material realm.
Again, Idk why you are project the future of AI as like it's today (todays "AI" isn't AI, that's just marketing), which in this I agree with you, it's just slop.
the AI jut express what you have in mind,
it approximates what it thinks you are thinking, based on a database search. You cannot translate 1:1
if you take the time and knowledge to create the art, the AI just express it in the material realm.
you don't possess all the skills and taents needed all round. And AI will never be able to understand charisma, humour and actorial/directing quirks that separates the Cary Grants from the KAL-EL NOs
Idk why you are project the future of AI as like it's today
True AI will be another thing, but it's not the technology we are talking about now. Totally different thing.
True AI will thinc and understand why something is made. That AI will arguably able to create at some point. But that technlogy is still sci fi (the kaind that will probably happen one day, I think)
Some of the funniest parts were left out because they didn't tell the main narrative arc.
Plus what Welsh does to the English language can't really be replicated on celluloid and digested by most people.
True AI will thinc and understand why something is made.
My idea of AI and art is that, that actual AI will help you to create art or created by itself.
But that technlogy is still sci fi
Ofc, I know that we still have to wait, the thing is, each day is closer, my question is, someone has an idea of the exact decade (aprox.)?
Ok, thanks.
The book is an incredibly convoluted piece of shit. The movie is a masterpiece.
The big one is Jaws. Awful book
PKD predicted people in the future would be so alienated, desensitized, and dehumanized that there's this tv thing they watch but it also transmits emotions, kind of a religious experience with visuals like a Christ like figure walking alone up a mountain and being tormented. Been a while since I read it but that's what I remember
PKD?
tv bad
NOOOO, no le hecking tv, how you can enjoy watch beautiful things that don't exist in your current reality!!! If you enjoy visual art is 'cuz you're actual desensitized!!!
I'm fucking tired of this boomer, pre-boomer BS mindset.
That's not what he's saying you mongoloid zoomzoom
Don't forget Gennarro actually being a lovable coward and not just a coward, he also punches a raptor iirc, and Muldoon not only survives, his shotgun is a rocket launcher and he blows up several raptors with it.
Also the reveal the raptors were -so- intelligent they needed a parent to teach them to behave, and the raptors in the park were the equivalent to feral children, meaning the real ones from the past were so intelligent they were bordering on outright sapience. Which the movies never really captured, the raptors are smart but nowhere near that level.
grant also punches two of the fliers in the river boat ride section
I can't bring myself to read any book anymore because I get too lost in doom thoughts to focus on it