Why is there a severe lack of movies or tv series set in byzantine constantinople?
Why is there a severe lack of movies or tv series set in byzantine constantinople?
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Because all you need is this
lol boobs
Because their entire civilization was destroyed.
I assume they make plenty of turkish soup operas about it
All of them are from the pov of how Turks btfo'd byzantines
you are in luck. I am an expert on the matter. I visited the Hagia Sophia for the second time last week as well.
Here is my answer
1. The Turks have ringfenced any Byzantine/Late Roman stories told on screen because they control the land and the city where they can be filmed, they also wont allow any stories told because:
2. Although most Turks especially in Istanbul share the view they have Greek/Roman blood and it is part of their history, the government is hell bent on being some neo-Ottoman new empire and can only glorify the Ottoman conquest
3. There are not many other places where you can film to make a Late Roman movie/show. Maybe Monemvasia/Mystras/Nessebar but its nowhere near the same as filming in Istanbul. The city still has the feel and many streets are in the same shape as 600 years ago.
4. 90% of people in the west dont understand what byzantium even was
5. the turks treat the Hagia Sophia like a trophy that they whore out. It is not looked after. It will eventually collapse
6. the turks dont want anything Roman glorified. You see an advert for Istanbul it is the Blue Mosque which is honestly fucking shit.
many streets are in the same shape as 600 years ago.
Really? I think the only things back from the day were churches(turned to mosques). We don't know anything about how the Byzantine houses looked like, right?
didn't Paul Verhoeven do starship troopers.
Drops fez
Is there another one?
Because it was a degenerate shithole and a shitty roman larp that is culturally significant only in Eastern Europe.
you go walk around Balat/Fener neighbourhoods and you will seem remnants of what it looked. Dont forget these are the villages that "opened their gates" when the Turks overwhelmed the walls, so they avoided to be sacked.
You can walk around the Constantinople and cant help but stumble on how the place used to look
Italy will always be the better setting. Rome is the OG and can never be surpassed. Byzantines are just a long drawn out shit show and territorial losses galore.
Rome was a fucking ghost town for a 1000 years and still looks worse than a place raped by muslims for 500 years
constantinople
we call it Turkaiyeyie now don't we?
if youre speak Turkish yes. I was literally there last week spoke to many Turks and they all say "turkey"
based Byzantium knower
if youre speak Turkish yes
I keep seeing ads on tv here in the US.
Every ad on tv, black or mixed couples buying whatever slop the corps are pushing
Then "Come to Türkiye" ad comes on. It's all beautiful white people having a respectfully fun time in on the Eastern Med or enjoying food in Istanbul.
its 6am here and I cant be bothered to check my grammar.
Byzantine was a borderline failed state.
Russia thinks they're The Third Rome but they really are the Second Byzantine.
Filmmakers can use a combination of sets and greenscreen. A lot of byzantines era landmarks have been destroyed anyway.
Rome is the eternal city. It was capital of the worlds best empire and the spiritual capital of the worlds most powerful religion Catholicism. The popes were basically the continuation of that empire. All our laws, writings, morals ect... are based on what Rome left us.
90% of people in the west dont understand what byzantium even was
This is the real reason. I have no idea what the fuck even is that, why would I care about a movie with the setting?
functions for 1100 years
provided stability for Western Europe against Muslims
established common currency for 500 years
But a failed state because…. You’re an idiot? I don’t understand
The pope which was only given the power in the west by Justinian? The papal office that moved to France? The same Rome that has monuments to Emperors such as Phokas?
It's the part of the Roman empire that didn't fell when Rome the city fell. Rome had two capital cities at the time and Constantinople was the more important one. It continued to be Roman empire into late middle ages and eventually got conquered by Turks. It's not really spoken about in western Europe because all the important countries like France, England or Germany were outside of it and were larping as Roman empire continuations with their own empires.
Rome and two capital cities at the time
Yes. Constantinople and Ravenna. Maybe Valentinian III chose to have court in Rome? Or Honorius? Cant remember
Because outside of orthobros (chronically online chuds that fell for Eastern Orthodoxy because of masculine beard memes and consequently became catechumen) no one cares.
Byzantium is the coolest geographic name in history
did nothing interesting between 700 and getting kwabbed in 1453 that's why
Completely disagree. I don’t know how you can say the Macedonian dynasty and the crusades are not interesting.
Turks are a plague upon the human race.
Do you live in Glendale?
Nigga hagia sophia is cool tho
Mogs pantheon
bongs think they are actually ancient romans so they make tv shows about ancient rome
they don't think that about byzantine empire
Except for King Charles who had Byzantine chanting during his coronation
The fourth crusade raped that town worse than any Ottomans did. Constantinople was a shithole backwater town by the time the Turks came in. The city was rebuilt and reborn under the Ottomans and that's why you think it still looks good today.
All our laws, writings, morals ect... are based on what Rome left us.
In certain areas yeah, especially Law, but for the most part everything the west is built on stems from the Greeks.
Istanbul not constantinople
Why don't Greeks make about it
Why did Constantinople get the works?
The Byzantines were not Roman past Basil, and that's pushing it. Greek language, Greek ethnics, Greek traditions, Greek Christianity, Greek philosophy.
And plenty of people know all about Byzantium, you're referring to Americans who make 70% of all entertainment media in the world and who don't know about it because
A. For many reasons Americans are not historically inclined in the slightest and take that as somewhat of a point of pride.
B. The Founding Fathers very clearly based the country off of the Republic, and so that looms so large in the ethos and psyche of the American soul that it doesn't really have room for an ERE.
The Founding Fathers very clearly based the country off of the Republic
And now they've been taken over by an imperator
Kino
The Jews fear Roman Empire kino. Always have.
And yes Byzantium is Rome fuck off
Everyone was calling them Romans. That's why Romania exists to this day.
*k*rds
monuments to Emperors such as Phokas
why did that nigger even get a monument
never noticed until now how the islamic elements clashed with the original architecture (obviously I'm not talking about the giant black shields)
now THATS what should be made into a film. the single most painful/disastrous event in history
Greek seething he got owned by superior Italians
armchair historians always forget to mention how this started because the byzantines could not go five minutes without a coup/pretender to the throne/civil war or generally any sort of disastrous intrigue that made their doom just a matter of time
Jews do not want you to know that the Christian world extended far into the Middle East and North Africa once upon a time.
Long story short, the jews betrayed us and helped the muslims take over those areas and then the muslims BTFO the jews too. If you are seeing parallels between history and today then you might not be retarded.
a kurd in Sweden wrote this
Got a lotta roaches in Anon Babble huh
The equivalent of ziggers saying it must be a Balt who hates them
Nobody likes a movie, about losers
no homo horde
This is actually Rome at its most based
Romania is a meme name, it did not exist pre XIX. Romanians are medieval moldovans and valakhs.
Let me just pull the Alexiad up real quickly here
But his task of predilection was
that enjoyed by the Queen, to wit, a compilation of the history of the reign of Alexius,
Emperor of the Romans, and my father, and to set out the doings of his reign in books
whenever opportunity granted him a short respite from strife and warfare, and the
chance of turning his mind to his history, and literary studies. Moreover, he
approached this subject from an earlier period (for in this detail too he obeyed the
will of our mistress), and starting from {Romanus IV} Diogenes, Emperor of the
Romans, he worked down to the man about whom he had himself purposed to write.
it does seem kind of insane
total mudslime death.
because jews
yup this is why Dracula was pissed off and started impaling. betrayal can cause a lot of anger
NANI
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