when you're good at your job and fair to your subordinates but still lose because you had the shit luck of being an antagonist in a political morality play for children who were brought up to believe competency, efficiency and social order don't matter as much as whining about freedom and being "on the right side of history" while committing overt acts of terrorism
When you're good at your job and fair to your subordinates but still lose because you had the shit luck of being an...
that's what you get when you work for the government, faggot
Isn't this like every office job?
Partagaz may looked chill cause he's in an office building and not actually killing anyone, but he's making the decisions that get people killed, the same way politicians and suits irl are pissing away people's lives between brunch breaks.
Something something The mundanity of evil blah blah
reminder that Partagaz and many others were killed by their own government in the end. the rebels didnt destroy his career.
Competence is the enemy of every authoritarian government, because its threatening to them. they want unwavering loyalty and for you to take the fall when they demand it.
Why he'd kill himself? Couldn't he just explain the situation to Palpatine?
its a miracle fartgas even lasted as long as he did. imperials always get killed or fucked over hard by the people above them. i suppose its because ISB was relatively independent.
Competence is the enemy of every authoritarian government
Only in modern kids shows. The most enduring governments throughout history have been authoritarian, the ones that weren't always got replaced with authoritarianism eventually. The Romans were at their greatest and most lasting as an empire, not a republic.
This is a naive modern take that doesn't hold much substance. Non-authoritarian governments disintegrate way faster, usually due to outside influences because they lack strong central authority.
This is extremely rare as most coups are done within.
They had to complete the WW2 allegory
That's authoritarianism replacing itself. Non-authoritarian governments meanwhile get shredded by outside forces and interest groups that have no stake in national cohesion. It's why Europe is now overrun with refugees and migrants that give zero fucks about the cultures of their adopted host nations while American national interests have been completely usurped by transnational corporate interests.
Competence is the enemy of every authoritarian government, because its threatening to them
t. when you're such a subhuman bootlicking faggot who worships tiny men in sharp suits because you're too closeted to just go to a gaybar and get your bussy blown out you genuinely begin to equate "order" with "orchestrating the murder of billions because it's convenient to the state"
when you're a projecting thirdie that wants to destroy high-trust societies and turn them into the shithole you left behind
His biggest fuckup was not being harsh enough on Dedra and that quarantine lie that deprived them of enough firepower to arrest Kleya.
an authoritarian government wants you to be a cog that functions exactly how its supposed to. there is no room for growth, reform or change, the system is already supposed to be perfect.
step out of line, even with the intention to make the entire authoritarian process better, and you will be treated as a faulty cog and be replaced.
an internal purge where the top dog(s) replace the bureaucracy with loyal yes-men happened in literally every dictatorship in history, precisely because personal loyalty and obedience is more important to them than being great at your job. any push for reform from within threatens the delicate internal balance of nepotism promotions / cleptocracy / corruption and will be treated as a threat to the system itself.
an authoritarian government wants you to be a cog that functions exactly how its supposed to. there is no room for growth, reform or change, the system is already supposed to be perfect.
Wrong, you're confusing authoritarian with totalitarian. This is why you stay in school, kids.
This is a Anon Babble thread, calibrate your whining.
with modern means of government and control available, one will inevitable turn into the other.
the age of wise and benevolent kings is long over
I'm sure Sheev "Danger! High Voltage!" Palpatine would be totally forgiving and totally not torture Partagaz to death.
Partagaz realized he was playing a game of Whack-a-mole he would innevitably lose no matter how hard he tried.
He wasn't really good. Deedra found hints leading to Luthen despite the established ISB system, not because of it. That other guy who got promoted and oversaw lots of sectors had no clue and no interest to investigate that stuff.
What was Partagaz overseeing anyway? He was a major and supervised a couple lieutenants. Where they in charge of the entire galaxy or just a small section that happened to contain the places where Andor was active? Anyway, it's absolutely stupid that the empire seemingly had no established strategy or method to investigate covert rebel activities or connect dots over multiple disciplines and kinds of crime or security breaches.
Your reductive baby logic doesn't take into account authoritarian governments that see growth and reform as part of the cog's purpose. Most governments throughout history have been authoritarian, you literally wouldn't be here without them you redditurd.
with modern means of government and control available, one will inevitable turn into the other.
Larger populations means authoritarianism is the only viable option. Otherwise you become a dysfunctional shithole like India.
"Bad luck, Ghorman".
My guess is Partagaz was a Republic bureaucrat who simply carried on when Palps became Emperor.
america hasn’t been a high trust society since the 40s
There are turf wars in government bureaucracies, fot example Partagaz fucking hates the Naval division.
Most governments throughout history have been authoritarian
if less than 10% of your entire population can read, democracy cannot take roots because people cant even participate.
as soon as you give your population the means to make their own personal and economic choices, they are very likely to pivot towards democracy because they want to have a say in things, this is why even places that started out as authoritarian states (taiwan, germany, south korea, japan, italy, etc) eventually pivoted towards democracy.
China is an historical oddity, but even they have loosened the leash a lot in recent decades compared to what they were in the 60s.
people don't like having a stranger telling them what to do, its literally that simple
Wonder why.
Yes, government, please control my life and turn me into a souless cog!
I made it so
China is an historical oddity, but even they have loosened the leash a lot in recent decades compared to what they were in the 60s.
Proving authoritarian governments have the capacity for change and adaptation. And when you're working with populations numbering in the high hundred millions or more, strong centralization becomes crucial or else you start getting eaten away at the fringes.
This but unironically. Soul is a thirdie meme for looting and tanking property values.
>when you're good at your job and fair to your subordinates but still lose because you had the shit luck
He let dedra fuck up with luthen
He let jung spy for 5+ years for the rebels
He let mothma do her speech
He let that supervisor fuck up the isb spec force raid
Partagaz had no choice but to honor kill himself
strong centralization becomes crucial or else you start getting eaten away at the fringes.
China is an oddity because its a multi cultural state that shouldnt exist in unity in the first place.
its practically an entire continent with dozens of languages and cultures that all occasionally get forced together by the strongest regional contender (which is currently Han chinese from the north)
they arent threatened at the fringes, they are threatened from within. its a similar scenario if europe was held together by the supremacy of germany in an authoritarian state and bought their people's complacency with economic growth. it won't be stable in the long run.
different parts of china hate eachother a lot more than they hate western foreigners. strong centralization keeps them all under the same banner, but the underlying problems with it cant be solved, and they will swell to the surface sooner or later
China is an oddity because its a multi cultural state
Only at the margins. You would have a much stronger case with Turkey, which is far more multi-cultural and multi-ethnic while still maintaining a mostly solid national identity across the board.
America is far more divided internally and it's not even close.
Everything you said applies more to the US, which has become so cripplingly torn from within that it's no longer functional. Anything one admin is able to pass gets completely reversed by the next and so on.
any good democracy fights their political battles out in the open. There is room for debate, growrth and change. What America means and represents gets changed with every generation.
I can guarantee you that china is internally a lot more fractured than america
every country has real issues, america is no different. but at the end of the day there is a unique bond between all americans, and the idea of america itself is never questioned.
people meme about secession occasionally, but there are no actual separatist movements. their ideological battles are fought in the open.
China on the other hand is only kept together by their central authority, it has become a necessity in itself. as soon as there will be visible weakness in this system, local challengers from within will rise up to challenge Beijing and shatter the whole state, like it has happened dozens of times in their history already.
certainly an institutional failure by american policymakers more than anything
He let mothma do her speech
It's odd that a dude who actually messed up kept the job
It's odd that a dude who actually messed up kept the job
thats the thing about being in charge, you are accountable even for the people who work for you. its a lot harder to get fired in middle management than it is at the top of the company
This is the most midwit opinion on this site congrats. Rome conquered the world as a Republic and decayed into a shithole as an Empire.
Also authoritarian regimes don't last long the Roman Empire had constant coups and civil wars there was no order of succession.
Rome conquered the world as a Republic
reminder that the Republic was already in a state of decay by 130 BC, when the romans barely extended to greece and carthage.
there were huge issues with the republic, and almost a century of civil war by the time augustus came around. this dysfunction and baked in errors with their version of republic was the reason an emperor could come along and usurp the entire thing in the first place.
and its without a question that rome peaked by every metric during the reign of the 5 good emperors in ~150 AD. even modern libcuck historians agree with this
the banality of evil, but yes you got it bud!
Correct, there was nothing competent about Fartgaz. He allowed Dedra to break the regulations that existed for a reason. Compartmentalization avoids leaks. Dedra broke this and hoarded information she wasn't supposed to have, because she was obsessed with catching Axis. Fartgaz initially tried to make her abide by the regulations but when she started bringing in results he gave her a free hand to do as she wished, resulting in the Death Star leak.
The black ISB guy at the beginning of the season was right, the show practically telegraphs this.
Also he had a Rebel mole deep inside his inner circle and fucked up Luthen's arrest. If this was the KGB dude would have been purged just as he was about to here. He fucked up.
nooo not terrorism against the state that commits atrocities with impunity!
It reached its greatest extent under an empire and lasted for hundreds of years after that. But you also aren’t wrong- there were constant civil wars and betrayal since succession was barely agreed upon outside of the five good emperors.
When you have a competent autonomous leader then it can lead to great things. But when you have a weak leader authoritarian regimes always fall into chaos
when the romans barely extended to greece and carthage.
That was "the world". Greece and Carthage were the only threats to Roman ascendancy and they were defeated during the Republic. Nobody gives a shit about some celtic tribes in Britain or Dacian barbarians, Rome's ascendancy to supremacy over the Mediterranean happened under the Republic.
and its without a question that rome peaked by every metric during the reign of the 5 good emperors in ~150 AD. even modern libcuck historians agree with this
Far from an unanimous opinion.
efficiency
the Empire
Shut up Cato
overt acts of terrorism
like blowing up planets?
Alderaan shot first
ethics don’t matter, as long as I’m doing my job right
Real autism right here