BvS failed because it was too scary for kids

You are right and wrong, ultimately its two heroes fighting under false pretense then teaming up for a boss battle so... I see what you mean but still.

Snyder can do no wrong

Can he do anything right?

Superman being controversial world figure is good idea, scene where news people talking about how he changed the world is my favorite.

Nah,
I was 11 years old when I watched BvS and I hated it because I thought it was boring af and that Batman and Superman should have fought more.

I also didnt like Civil War because I thought Tom Holland looked like a dweeb and that it was stupid that a single no-name spy had managed to dismantle the Avengers.

Americans need this shit for some reason. They need these super heroes who wear tights and fly around killing bad guys and were invented by a bunch of Jews in the 40s to sell government war bonds to be these deep troubled intellectuals who suffer from erectile dysfunction cause of childhood trauma.

I was 14 when this movie came out. I thought it was all in all cool, the only part that threw me off was killing off Superman so early. I don’t think my opinion would change much if I was any younger. I saw Star Trek 2009 when I was 7/8 and I adored it. The narrative depth and tone of that movie isn’t far off from BvS. As Christopher Nolan said “don’t try to understand it, just feel it.” Understanding the nitty gritty details of Snyder’s narrative is irrelevant, all that matters is whether you can catch the vibe especially with capeshit. Snyder is really good at it on a scene to scene basis. There’s a lot of cool Batman stuff in BvS. Superman less so, he is more of a secondary character in the movie. But there’s a finite amount of people that legitimately grievance over Superman’s portrayal, he did what he was supposed to do. I liked BvS because there was a part of it that just had a pure DC feel. But most importantly it left me looking forward to was Justice League which is what matters in the context of the general audience. I think the damage BvS did was more or less healed by Wonder Woman’s success, the DCEU didn’t actually fail until Justice League. And not because of the wild contrast in tone but because it was just a sloppy movie. Aquaman did a billy afterwards which was a sign they could’ve simply stayed the course and been alright. A shame WB execs were in a massive pissing contest at the time.

I liked Snyder's DC stuff, the problems are very apparent but they actually felt grand and ambitious and not like shitty fan films like most capeshit nowadays. Mos and Bvs get really retarded at several points but ZSJL has so many great scenes and dialogue, i think it would've played really well in theaters as is (without the stupid tacked on Knightmare shit Snyder threw in there later).

Ultimately i think the movies were a victim of their own status. I think it's much easier to take in and accept a different, self-serious, dark interpretation of the characters when done in a monthly comic that's gonna get retconned in six months anyway. Not so much when it's a big blockbuster franchise where every movie costs half a billy and takes three years to make, and they're supposed to be the face of the brand for the foreseeable future.

Nope. People saw it. Hated it. Got horrible word of mouth and like almost all Snyderverse movies fell off a cliff. Nobody has a problem with Dark Knight
or The Batman being “too dark”

Except every movie after BvS succeeded. Suicide Squad was so bad it was good, Wonder Woman was good, Justice League was going to be good if they didn’t blow the budget on pointless reshoots, Aquaman made over a billion. After that they just gave up when there was obvious gold to still be mined and put money into more pointless garbage like Shazam and BoP.

Autistic arbitrary percentage drop off

Go back to woddit and stay there

I saw it opening night in a packed theatre. The person beside me started checking their phone around the 100 minute mark. I wasn’t even mad. When the Martha scene happened you could feel the second hand embarrassment of everyone in the theatre. I remember I felt so uncomfortable during that moment. I heard some laughter, I heard someone groan. That was the exact moment I think every single person in the audience checked out. You could just feel the vibe shift. Besides the Martha scene, nobody laughed, nobody clapped, nobody cheered, there was no reaction to anything. When the movie was over it was dead silent and people got up left. It felt like we all got ripped off. You could feel everyone’s disappointment. This was quite the whiplash for me because this was at the time when people were laughing clapping and cheering for marvel movies and I was used to those reactions for a big tentpole film. Awful movie. It had a massive opening weekend and an even bigger second weekend drop off. Just an all around bafflingly bad movie. It makes you wonder how it got made the way it did. It feels almost like intentional sabotage of a brand.

If you are actually interested in pushing this movie effectively then remake the infographics that tend to get spammed here with adequate care. There's so many poorly done images (low-resolution, watermarks, wording, reasoning) it makes me want to throw up every time someone unleashes them like a flood of diarrhea.

My theater was quiet except for WW’s entrance. I think there were some gasps at the capitol explosion. It wasn’t exactly a crowd pleaser movie.

All those movies are awful

actually it was because it was shit

Hi Tom Connors

Suicide Squad dropped 67% its second weekend. Why for a massive overhaul. Replaced Ayer’s and brought in Gunn for the second one. Only movies didn’t drop off where Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Shazam. The three movies got direct sequels.

I had some fat mexican bitches talk the entire time and I still thought the movie was kino

Retarded take consider the Nolan movies were not kids movies

That’s surprisingly true. I completely forgot about Nolan’s movies. Snyder’s movies have a lot more going on between them whereas Nolan’s you only see Batman once every 40 minutes. Once thing I liked about The Batman is that we get a lot of Batman.

Neither was The Batman or The Penguin series or The Joker

You know whats really happening but people don't want to accept? Superheroes as a concept are dying. The original MCU movies did well because they strip-mined millennial member berries for these characters they grew up with and over time they just got bored especially since Marvel made an "end" with end game. Superheroes have been going on as a concept for almost 100 years everything dies out eventually. Fantastic Four will bomb. Superman will under-perform and after those 2 Avengers movies release that will be the end for a while if not forever

The Batman

Lol. How's the sequel doing btw?

You’re not wrong. Marvel success came from the fact at the time they did not have the movie rights to their biggest characters. Sony has Spider Man, Fox has The X Men, Universal has The Hulk. They used B and C list characters most people didn’t know much about. Iran Man was a C list character until Downey jr movie and now he’s a A list character. Thor was a B lister and so was Captain America. They benefited from having fresh origins and actors could do what wanted with the characters. People do not want to see Wayne’s getting killed yet again or Superman crashing into a field in Kansas or Uncle Ben get killed again

Reeves got some health issues supposedly and hasn’t finished the script

If you had basic level knowledge of Marvel characters as a kid those were not B list characters at all.Almost all showed up in cartoons in like the 90's/early 2000's. Even Iron man
youtube.com/watch?v=eefMDSTLYs8

I lost all respect for Ben Affleck after that video of him begging some random thot on a dating app for some pussy

Navine why did you unmatch me??

I'm the real Ben Affleck, please respond

Imagine being a literal Hollywood celebrity and begging some girl online for a crumb of pussy. Not only that, imagine being so retarded that you don't realize she is just going to use the videos you send her to get clout and humiliate you online

Sex shit should be outlawed desu. Have you seen that Glenn Greenwald debacle? People nuke their whole lives over cooming.

They were B list and C list man. Why no studio bought the movie rights to them. Iron Man, Thor and Captain American weren’t even popular comics. Most the time they teamed up with popular characters. A list X Men, Spider Man, The Hulk. B list Daredevil, The Punisher, maybe Iron Man etc

Gadot is white?

They were B list and C list man

Not if you were a casual Marvel fan no sorry. This is complete bullshit that gets pushed over and over. The Avengers were a direct response to the Justice League and blew up the notoriety of these characters. I was not a comic nerd at all, got my comics in cheap bundles in the 99 cents store as a kid and watched all the cartoons and knew who all of them were as did many other millennials thus why they blew up

jeets have bottom of the barrel taste. Every Netflix movie is made with them in mind

Superheroes as a concept are dying

Yes but not because superheroes themselves suck. There’s still so much untapped potential in the movie space. Studios are just making the simple things impossible. Another Tobey or Andrew spiderman movie would make bank. Now let’s throw some fan casts out there: Norman Reedus Ghostrider, Daniel Radcliffe Wolverine, Cillian Murphy Dr.Doom. Resetting the MCU is a necessity now. A fresh Avengers movie with a new lineup would go crazy, or a new Iron Man. Don’t get me started on DC. Batman and Joker haven’t interacted on the big screen together since 2008. Superman hasn’t gotten a true sequel in 38 years. Not to mention we still haven’t gotten a 7 member Justice League. Studios just can’t get their fucking shit together, and the shit they do get together is mid. Kate Bishop, America Chavez, Riri Williams, all three of the marvels, the current BP is a woman. Nobody asked for this stuff. It’s not difficult to see what the fans want, studios just won’t do it for one reason or another.

Fantastic 4 is a dead end though.

Batman and Joker haven’t interacted on the big screen together since 2008

Good fuck Joker

make the same movies with the same characters we made a billion times

No how about they use new characters? The best part of the second suicide squad movie was that I had no idea who the fuck any of the characters were and it made it more interesting that the 5th Batman vs Joker movie

While I can agree with you I also want to point out that cultural staples like Superman, Batman, and Spider-Man should be used to their maximum potential. Both can happen.

There is nothing scary, it's just boring and lame for kids. They want to see cool fights and special effects, not three hours long depressing movie.