Turbo zoomer here this is not a bait post

I think there are cool moments here with Snook,

Luke's renouncing of the force makes sense, Adam Driver is great as Kylo. idk,

I'm not a Star Wars nerd so I didn't love it but solid 6 or 7/10

Good for you, have a nice day. sage

You're not a real person

I met a kid who loved the sequels. I wasn't autistic enough to argue with him though.

Star Wars something special in the 70s through the 00s, and still is to some people, but to a 19 year old kid it’s just another IP slopfactory.

the prequels are my favorite, episode 7 is my least favorite

Correct take btw. Good for you.

I will never understand what drove them to keep leia alive when the actress was dead but kill luke when the actor is alive. It makes no sense.

I will never understand what drove them to keep leia alive when the actress was dead but kill luke when the actor is alive. It makes no sense.

Oh it's easy to understand. Rian wanted to get rid of Luke and didney wanted to make Leia more important in Star Wars for feminist points.
Not for any real interesting in universe reason that keeps the story coherent. Lord no.

prequels are my favourite

Id understand this better if they were all on par with RotS (which is mid btw) but the first two are so confoundingly dogshit
You dont understand any of these words
Kek

Rian wanted to get rid of Luke

The entire female-lead Lucasfilm creative department (I use the term as loosely as possible) had an anti-Luke agenda. Rian Johnson was just content to go along with it.

Yes, I do. Go ahead and ask me to explain any of them, troon.

which is mid btw

youtube.com/watch?v=vaW72ZchK6M
Zip that mouth butthole of yours ASAP.

empire vs rebels again

no new jedi order, no new republic that is actually worth a damn

That's the only info you need to know the sequels were doomed to be dogshit.

Can you imagine the absolute blunder it is to take a solidly male brand and try to rebrand it as female? It would be like gi joe stopping their entire production to make barbies. Who thought it was gonna work? You had the most autistic whales eating out of your hand and you threw it all away. And for what? A couple extra women viewers? It boggles the mind.

Can any EUfags tell me if Plagueis + Caedus or Caedus alone could have been decent central villains and distinct from Palpatine (who is fun af to watch but ultimately exists for power for power's sake and being evil whilst loving it)? Most I've toyed with about alt. prequel stuff is 7: Imperial Remnant/Thrawn basically stalemating the Republic in order to purely force them to negotiate with him cause the Vong are coming. 8-10: Republic/Remnant/Chiss/Hutts/etc. vs Vong with the echos of the Sith or dark siders being the true villains manipulating this all along, something something to do with the Whills, 9 ends on big cliffhanger revealing to audiences there's an episode X.

destroys your laser sword franchise aimed at 10 year olds for luls

They should have skipped right to Legacy. Krayt would have been a banger villain.

Id love for you to explain the term ‘post-modern’ because its always most revealing of utter retardation of people using it, and im also making assumptions regarding ‘feminism’ because to dub something that isnt saying much and using it disparagingly to indicate somethings not worth watching would implicate the original Star Wars (1977) but perhaps you mean to do that

They don't. People who hate TLJ are just filtered midwits.

What zoomers will never understand is that Star Wars is completely astroturfed. Regardless of what you think about these awful shitty movies, it's irrelevant because you have been psyoped to not only care about Star Wars but even '''''''''like''''''''''' it.
The original Star Wars trilogy was big. It was like ET. Big movies that made people go crazy for a few years mostly because the special effects were really good at the time.
Then the prequels came out and they sucked, no one liked them. The entire Star Wars thing was dead. Not a single person in the world cared about Star Wars until Disney bought the rights to it and then wow what a coincidence, out of nowhere Star Wars is this cultural phenomena, wow it's so big and you should care about Star Wars. Wow guys, Star Was was always culturally significant and you should really really care about it and buy all our merch.
The eternal zoomer will never even comprehend the amount of astroturfing and brainwashing they went through. If you are younger than 60 you absolutely should not be giving a shit about Star Wars. Just knowing how they shoved this in your face alone should repulse you, but you will never understand or comprehend it. You didn't experience the world before Disney bought Star Wars.

A couple extra women viewers?

I guarantee they did not even get that. Women do not care about Star Wars if men aren't interested. They likely have a few rusted-on søyboys with Stockholm syndrome left and everyone else moved on.

I'm smarter than you. Have fun outreasoning

this is not a bait post!

it actually is a bait post

episode 7 is my least favorite

How can you prefer the mess that was episode 9 over episode 7?

OP jacked my not bait and turned it into bait
archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/210644770

NTA but are you completely retarded? As messy as Rise of Skywalker is, it at least attempts to tell a story and give its characters some meat. Force Awakens is a 2h trailer with no substance whatsoever.

It's like being dazzled by a Muhammad Ali prize fight from ringside in 1966, to watching from a bar stool on a shitty tv Muhammad Ali getting knocked the fuck out like some befuddled has-been in 1981. The man could still fight, could still rope-a-dope, could still throw a combination, but he wasn't "Ali" anymore.

It's like limewire era Heather Harmon circa 1996-2002 compared to live streaming 2024.

It is a depression of a unique sort to see how far your idols fall.

Shut up, retard. Take your gaslighting somewhere else. Star wars WAS fucking big. The empire strikes back was in theaters for over a year. Fucking imagine that. A year after release and you could still go to a cinema and see it. Then they had years of nothing but the fanbase was still there and in fact had grown with the passing on from father to son the experience. Then the prequels happened and did okay. It didn't alienate too many old fans yet brought in a ton of new children fans. Star wars was a healthy brand until disney bought it. Their actions alone have caused star wars to fail. I wonder how old you actually are if your sense of past culture is so fucking twisted.

Easy, 7 was the last one I watched.

This. I asked my dad some time ago how he remembered people receiving the Prequels and he said they were liked.

Be grateful I didnt lump it in with the other dogshit, and while its fair that you like it these attempts to intellectualise the consoomer hecking love for the Starslop prequels is immiserating.

TLJ is gonna be like phantom menace in 20 years. Most people will hate it, but it will remain the most interesting of its trilogy for its general weirdness. It's weird an illconceived but that's more interesting than boring schlock.

I didn't watch it but if you bothered with sequels after watching TFA, you're a retard, no matter your age or opinions about pt or sw in general.

Yeah, no. I'll be more grateful if that next leak you take happens within proximity of a urinal.

Most people will hate it

You're a retard. The majority of fans enjoyed the phantom menace. There are way more fans of the phantom menace today than there ever were for the sequels. You can take that to the fucking bank.

I had to complete the trilogy

Phantom Menace

most people hate it

Retard.
Real.

the majority of fans enjoyed the phantom menace

Lol, lmao really

Yeah, they did. You weren't even born when it came out. Like I said, any autistic retard that left the brand due to the prequels was more than made up for in the amount of children who joined because of them. You lose, contrarian.

Some day your fat old ass will have to make peace with reality. There's something haunting about age 35+ manchildren.

Tranny disney shills
No one under the age of 70 cared about Star Wars until Disney bought the rights to it. Very lucky for Disney as just at the same time Star Wars became a big thing and a cultural phenomena. What a cohensidence.

You are a total mediocrity. Don't reply to me again.

The idea of ''joining a franchise'' and having this much retarded blind loyalty for a ''franchise'' didn't exist until Disney bought the brand.
These were just shitty movies. People went to the prequels expecting some ok movies to watch and got shit so they went ''ew'' and left the theaters. There was no undying shill fanbase of eternally trapped simps joining a cult to make Disney money. These were just movies.

I'm 41 and saw it in theaters anon. People hated it. I was 14 and hated it. Now get to class zoomie

someday you'll have to make peace with reality

That was about 26 years ago when I saw the phantom menace in theater and said

oh this is shit

guess star wars is over

And it's pretty much been shit ever since

I was 14 and hated it

Kek. No one cares about a retarded teenager's opinion. Brutal you seem stuck at that age mentally.

Youre the manchild that clapped your chubby hands at the utter sloppa that was the Phantom Menace

feminist

Women fighting in combat and acting masculine in general

post modern

There's no clear good and evil in the story which is a common theme in post modernity. Even Luke disparages the jedi and the grand narrative he believed in. To contribute to this, the director tries to rehabilitate the villain but Disney doesn't let him and reverses everything he does by the third film. Kylo Ren wants to destroy the past rather than have any links to it because he thinks it is meaningless and useless. This is common among post modernists. There is a stupid scene where Rose sabotages a mission due to hedonism rather than having to follow strict timeless morals. This wouldnt have been endorsed in the original trilogy. The extreme feminism is also relevant here as it only exists due to post modernity.
There are many post modern concepts and themes throughout the film and pretty much any new film. Most people are post modern in the west.

you weren't born

no one cares about a teenagers opinion

variety.com/1999/film/reviews/star-wars-episode-i-the-phantom-menace-1117499730/

The Phantom Menace” can scarcely help being a letdown on some levels, but it’s too bad that it disappoints on so many

It's short for postmodernism and it's a foundational tenet of woke religion. This is the best explanation of it I've ever seen: youtube.com/watch?v=Zw1ucZEqQ78

If you see the woke-infested shit with this lens, it becomes relatively clear what's been guiding the story, setting, characters etc.

Combine this with CRT (Critical Race Theory), another tenet of woke religion, and you can spot it easily across all kinds of media. May people know what these things are but can't put a name to them. Knowledge is power. The same guy I posted above also has a video of it too: youtube.com/watch?v=2rDu_VUpoJ8

chubby hands

Nice projection, fatty.

sloppa

Meaningless word. If we compared media we've engaged with I'd mog you so hard, I'd feel scared for your sanity.

Bait needs to be believable zoomie

The OT had worse critical reception than the PT. Suck that up, slut.

This is the most entitled, crybaby shit I have ever read.

A nonsensical plot that makes no sense. If you disagree, try and explain Holdo's 'plan' to yourself until you get better or kys.
Girlboss feminism. The three male characters who are supposed to be 'good' spend the movie being humiliated and taught 'lessons' by the stronk independent whamen.
Finn gets it from Short Round.
Luke gets it from fucking Ray.
Poor Poe gets it from Leia and the pink haired lesbodyke feminist.
Hey, Leia - you weren't so angry with reckless flyboys when they saved your ass in the original movie, where you, you dumb bitch.
And why does the 'Resistance' need so many fucky admirals that they have to distinguish them with ranks like 'Vice-Admiral' when they only have 3 ships. They're like the nigger bandits who call themselves field marshalls.
By the final act I was fucking bored due to the total lack of causality in the plot, but when Short Round said that dumb line about 'You win by saving who you love, not destroying what you hate or whatever the fuck it was, and then the rebel base blew up in the fucking background I laughed my ass off.
So my final score is 9/10 wouldn't watch again.

Bait needs to be believable zoomie
variety.com/1977/film/reviews/star-wars-3-1200424073/

“Star Wars” is a magnificent film. George Lucas set out to make the biggest possible adventure fantasy out of his memories of serials and older action epics, and he succeeded brilliantly.

And there goes your spine... Or was it a toothpick?

doesn't understand averages

Future biofuel.

Why did the Jedi endanger the lives of others so recklessly by trying to fly right through the Blockade? Why was R2D2 fixing the shield generator a big deal when after R2 did so they never got shot at again? If a small ship not built for war could get through so easily, how was the blockade really effective at all?

Star Wars is like if Avatar 3 comes out in 20 years and everyone hates it, then another 20 years later Disney buys Avatar and comes out with Avatar 4 but now because Disney owns it we all pretend like Avatar is this massive franchise that is part of the culture and we must all consume Avatar and it's shoved down your throat 24/7 while shills insist it was always like this

This will probably happen.

You know nothing. I grew up with several friends who had read every EU book. Star wars had a steady popularity from the original trilogy to the prequels. Not even the ewoks could stifle the fanbase. Star wars was insanely popular until disney took over and threw out all the EU stories. They killed the franchise absolutely.

People loved Phantom menace

Shows variety article discussing how much of a fuck up PT was considered in its time

the critics hated OT

Shows new hope review from variety in 77 saying it's great

it's about averages

Lol cope and seethe zoom zoom

Not having nostalgia shouldn't turn you blind to how badly they treated the characters and wasted their potentials

Finn in episode 7 was a stormtrooper turned into a resistance fighter and a possible candidate for becoming a jedi

So, what did they do to him episode 8? Denied him from his redemption and gave us the most awkward kiss in the history of cinema

This is just one example

Yup

plebtard thinks I'm gonna engage in petty plotfaggotry

You belong with the insects. Enjoy those lowly thoughts about machinations you don't even comprehend.

These lectures are also a good explanation. Basically, post modernists are full of shit and do have their myths and narratives. They're just subversive crypto-commies who ultimately serve jews. He explains why and how it happened with historical context.
youtube.com/watch?v=ZhK6XOT3uAA

Your small pedophile group of friends doesn't change the fact that no one gave a fuck about Star Wars until Disney bought it.
They didn't ruin the franchise, there was nothing to ruin. They completely astroturfed a fake fanatical fanbase that didn't exist until Disney marketing team got their hands on Star Wars.

i LOVE star wars so much brehs!

I accept your concession. Now please remove yourself from this space.

Name another movie shown for more than a year in cinemas. The fanbase was always there. Right from the beginning through the prequels and finally stopped at the disney sequels and oversaturation of the brand. Also, they were shit.

The Rocky Horror Picture Show
The Sound of Music
Gone with the Wind
Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial
Jaws
Titanic
Avatar

Your in-universe explanations which I can either predict or think of better ones than you dont change the fact that its terrible film making btw

It absolutely was, you retard. Maybe you didn't hang out with nerds but there were tons of star wars fans, before and after the prequels. How many books exist in the EU? You're telling me no one is reading them?

Lawrence of Arabia
Doctor Zhivago
Ben-Hur
My Fair Lady
The Exorcist
Fantasia
The Ten Commandments
South Pacific
2001: A Space Odyssey
The Lion King (1994)

film making

You wouldn't know anything about that, bottom dweller.

Star wars is a movie classic

Thanks, we already knew that, nigger.

I think people over exaggerate how "woke" or whatever it is. Nothing worse than a modern marvel movie. I still hate it

The problem is that it ultimately does not work when you get to episode 9. It becomes completely pointless and it makes you question why episode 8 wasn't just one part of a larger movie.

The whole movie takes place over like three hours or something...and nothing happens. That could be ok because the point of the movie is that sometimes nothing happens... a good lesson from the force or whatever. But...actually nothing fucking happens in the grand context of the series.
We wasted an entire fucking movie (the longest movie in the franchise) watching our heroes...AND VILLAINS accomplish nothing. Snoke and Luke die I guess? Except that we see that doesn't matter either because Luke was a failure and Snoke was just a puppet.

Because of TLJ we get to 9 and it's like...okay here we are the LAST movie in a trilogy and nothing has fucking happened yet.
The first half of 9 is just nonstop chaos because they have to fit an entire movie's worth of adventures in half a movie because 8 showed fucking nothing!!

135 weeks in theaters for star wars

Only sound of music ran longer

No fanbase

Shut the fuck up, dude.

You are defending bottom of the barrel söyconsoomer slop made to sell merchandise to children, you think it is comparable to Shakespeare because your subhuman brain cant tell the difference, unfortunately there are decent aspects to the movies but they are wasted on what are overall trash films made by a hack whose not really responsible for many of the best things about his most famous film franchise.

Yes. Also a strange coincidence is that Disney astroturfed the non-existent Star Wars fanbase the same year when trannies got astroturfed. Star Wars fans and trannies didn't exist before 2012.

bro's pretending he's read any Shakespeare outside of high school now

completely oblivious to the fact one is text and the other film

Cattle.

Either bait or legit braindead.

You will never be a woman

Neither do I have such aspirations. How about you, schizo?

We wasted an entire fucking movie (the longest movie in the franchise) watching our heroes...AND VILLAINS accomplish nothing

Which is also very post modern. The subversion of the hero's journey and ultimate victory.

Completely false but a large part of why Star Wars is so big is because of its initial success including merch sales and they are just able to throw enough money at it to keep money rolling in
Heroes Journey monomyth shit is a plebbit meme btw a story not following it isnt automatically a subversion

I have no childhood connection to them. It was pretty good,

I have neither and it was fucking HORRIBLE. What the hell was this fucking b-plot with the Hacker about? What a waste of time. The main plot could have been concluded in 20 minutes and the only tension was due to lack of communication. And dont even mention that anime training-arc with no training.

What a dogshit script for a sci-fi/fantasy flick. I could have written a better one. I got no experience writing movie scripts, i have no real passion for it either but im completely serious, 1 month and i would have a better story with better character-moments and better themes than what these 25 hollywood writers came up with.

They actually put a red X on Luke's face

How cucked must Mark Hamill be to go along with this? This would be hard to believe if we didn't see Disney employees publicly getting mad because people liked seeing Luke in Mandalorian.

Bait needs to be believable zoomie

Finn gets it from Short Round.

Rose's hilarious gook face when she rams Finn

"we won't win by destroying what we hate but by saving what we love" she says as she stops him from sacrificing himself in order to rescue his loved ones right as the bad guys finally blow up their fortress gates and mean their death is all but certain were it not for rey-ping ur butt

If they want to make a post modern star wars movie go for it!! but don't make it the fucking middle movie of a trilogy! You can skip the entire movie because they just shut down so many mysteries and plot threads from the first movie only to be reopened in the next movie...again the movie becomes pointless.

If it was just a spin off movie taking place during the ST I actually think it would be looked at more fondly...but the fact is that it was meant to be the meat and potatoes of the ST and instead it's just a nothingburger
SUCKS

A lot of plot points in TLJ were actually in George's original idea for a sequel. Especially hermit Luke which was kino, SW fans are just too retarded to understand character development

WHY IS HAN EXACTLY THE SAME?

WHY ISN'T LUKE EXACTLY THE SAME?

The jedi are now treated as a joke, not the pathetic bureaucratic fuck up kind (which they are) but the funny haha kind. The knowledge they accumulated is wiped out and Yoda is like "whatever lol" which is jarringly uncharacteristic. Some arc about how the Jedi fucked up and need to reform would have been more sensible.

Bizarre B plot on the casino planet. Rose feels like a new child character on a 70's/80's sitcom that's trying not to get canceled. Cousin Oliver shit.

The bombers are contrived.

There's no reason not to tell Po about Commander HR Department's big plan. Another contrivance. However, the actual scene where she goes kamikaze was pretty fucking good.

Captain Phasma doesn't matter.

Kylo was underused. The end of the movie had me hoping he and Rey would swap places, with Kylo turning to the light, Rey to the dark, and Kylo would then have to redeem Rey. This of course didn't happen.

Lol you can always find the zoomie

says something stupid about something he has no idea about

gets disproven

doubles down on stupidy

gets mocked and disproven

claims victory

it -could have- been better. it's mind-blowing on a cosmic level that Disney did not PLAN WTF they wanted to tell a complete story with all three movies. they made them each on-the-fly with completely different people, banking on the trust that fans would eat up whatever meal they were served with glee.

I really think it's not a terrible movie either. they should have played-up Luke's utter humiliation and shame, at the perceived murder attempt of his nephew. he was devastated emotionally, and it could have "worked" if they hit it right. they didn't, and he came off as a different character

the light-speed ramming, while "realistic" from a physics level, was universe-breaking. that could have been re-written ---- she warps... but stops RIGHT IN FRONT of the ship! That's a one-in-a-million ace move, requiring ultra-precise pressing of the STOP button. heck, Han Solo pulled a similar move -in the previous movie- to crash land on the planet through a small refresh window in the shield generator on the Bigger Death Star planet! did they not watch their own movie?

they blew the Phasma pay-off, the Rose's sacrifice-to-stop-Finn's-sacrifice, DJ's unresolved comeuppance (that dude WON Star Wars! all the evil, no consequences!) Snoke doing an un-developed Wrestler "job" to Kylo, there's tons more that could have been tweaked slightly.

nobody in production saw this Pretorian Guard has a knife they totally would have sliced Rey in half. it's STILL in the movie, they should have edited it out like the coffee cup in Game of Thrones already!