All Star Wars outside of Andor should be considered non-canon...

All Star Wars outside of Andor should be considered non-canon. Tony Gilroy should make another season of Andor that retells the Rogue One story properly. After that, he should remake the Original Trilogy in Andor’s style. Then, he should create a new sequel storyline where the films of the Original Trilogy are revealed to have been in-universe propaganda films produced by the New Republic.

Shut the fuck up about this faggoty

LE KIDS FRANCHISE... BUT FOR GROWN UPS!!!!

So glad this fag fest is over and done with. Bye bye andor! you get fucking blown to bits in rogue one

you sound triggered, sweatie

I feel like everything Andor gets praised for is only interesting because its done in the context of being part of star wars rather then anything it does on its own merits.

Succinctly put.

you see, andor is good, because no one had ever said rape in star wars before!

Wheat?

season 1 was much better.

rape was the key to all of this. If we can get rape working...

action figures. retarded children. slamming together. glup. shitto.

i think it's very strange that you guys latched onto this as if it's some supreme complaint or gotcha. you have a deep aversion to anything mature existing in your little kiddie property.

new official viewing order
Andor
Rogue One
A New Hope
Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi
Phantom Menace (optional)
Attack of the Clones
Revenge of the Sith

maybe some of the more important episodes from TCW

stop here, you're done

the only thing limiting Andor is the fact it has to stick to established lore

I think the much bigger limiting factor is the budget (and as a consequence, only 2 seasons). S2 has years worth of time skips. Each of the S2 arcs was deserving of a season with four arcs, if not two seasons like that.
You could tell a lot of stuff there, and IMO the fact that "everybody already knows how it ends in Rogue One" isn't that much of a problem if the story is good - a new character can still be given a meaningful resolution.
But alas, Disney's bosses, or their spreadsheets, or both, wouldn't have it.

here's the real watching order:

a new hope
empire strikes back
andor season 1

skip the rest

Attack of the Clones

I might be the odd one out, and I've gotten laughed at for it before, but I think Attack of the Clones is one of the better films in the series. Attack of the Clones and Rogue One are the only two films in the franchise that show me why it's called "Star Wars", not "Star Knightly Bouts" or "Star Superhero Adventures". I can even tolerate the "I hate sand, it gets everywhere" scene because of it.

can only name one with representation in the imperial senate

seethes

kek

why did that trigger you so hard?

the only thing that really annoyed me about it was Grievous

Phantom Menace (optional)

(optional)

Gilroy was the one that only wanted to do two seasons because the physical toll and amount of work of making the show at the level they were doing it was going to be too much. Can't really blame him. He's already almost 70 and spending the next decade or so to make several seasons isn't exactly ideal. Especially when it's for a franchise he doesn't even like. Plus it probably would have been subject to a lot more executive meddling as the years went on.

Mon gives a speech about how the death of truth empowers tyranny

The very next time she needs to convince Saw to stop being a retard he ends the call with "if only you fought as well as you lie"

Kino

There's no need to be contrarian.

For a lot of people here, there is. They've been outcasts their whole lives, and reflexive contrarianism is how they deal with it, it allows them to reframe a lifetime of being on the outside as a conscious decision they made and not something that was done to them. This is behind probably 90% of the posts here these days, and most of the rest is just jeet shit. You have to constantly signal to the other retards here how much of an anti-normie you are.

Always has been

rewatching rogue one

the ersos have syril's milk in their house. the blue shit.

They killed my man Syril and we never heard from him again

main character was a nobody from a film that most fans remember for the Vader fruit ninja scene

two seasons of filler leading up to a movie where the MC dies

the MC's sacrifice is mostly pointless because the empire quickly poops out another death star and eventually starkiller base happens

the MC is played by an aging actor who has zero talent and charisma

based on his interviews dumbass Gilroy is fucking stunned Trandor doesn't have much of an audience

the small audience Trandor has is going to go right back to whining about Star Wars the second they see another lightsaber

That's how being killed usually works, anon. Not everyone becomes a spooky ghost like Obi-Wan.

People overhyped Rogue One because it wasn't as bad as the sequels.
It was a campy mess for the first hour and a half, then turned into a surprisingly good action movie for the last 45 minutes.
Still seems sloppy that they turned the events leading up to the original trilogy as more epic than the originals.

Sounds like Andor

Star Wars has completely lost everything that made it interseting at this point so it doesn't matter

The establishment needs a Star Wars movie that sells so they can keep financing this trainwreck to keep the young masses consuming product and obeying woke jr propaganda

To be fair, in the face of Star Wars it's deserved.
This franchise is 100% schlock and it has the most creatively bankrupt universe in sci fi.
The fact that a "2000s dark, gritty reboot" type show is praised this much shows what a cultural failure Star Wars is.

"Lying is bad"

Star Wars manchildren proceed to clap

Low IQ franchise

He wasn’t in attack of the clones

TFW the girl who plays bix was also the gay guys gf is true detective season 2

Tfe she gets knocked up and the dude dies in that as well

tfw she's Puerto Rican

Box hottest girl in Andor prove me wrong

It's like poetry, because it rhymes

The jews at Disney jumped the shark with the raped space Mexican.

Shoots you with blaster gun

ALL FANS OF THE OLD STAR WARS, should be executed.

Does this mean we can have Sith girls molesting padawan younglings?

Does this mean we can have Sith girls molesting padawan younglings?

Sure, sounds good. Consider it approved.

Where's Genndy Wars?

Grest, time to canonize Darth Talon.
Also, I'll be bringing in Abeloth too and feature graphic tentacle rape scenes

I mean you pretty much described the acolyte

Awesome, dont tell Dave Filoni.

Also, I'll be bringing in Abeloth too and feature graphic tentacle rape scenes

Pretty sure that Ahsoka S2 is bringing Abeloth back already.

But Filoni won't feature the rape

Reminder all nu wars is faggot shit

I have a feeling you didn't watch very attentively. The point of Mothma's speech wasn't generally "Lying is bad, m'kay", it was "Look at the Ghorman massacre they're memoryholing as I speak". The focus on lying was just situational, and the only reason her speech was in focus so much was that this is the first imperial senator that said something so outwardly anti-Emperor. An event similar to Prigozhin marching on Moscow for Russian politics.
That's not just Star Wars. That "2000s dark gritty reboot" is exciting is a general sign of mainstream western entertainment becoming... IDK if I'd call it "creatively bankrupt", but certainly "hard to relate to for anyone older than 22 or about that much".

Death Star was made for intimidating

Rebels found out about it

Lost a lot high ranks

Why? Are they retarded? They should just report in press about Death Star, thats it.
Emperror can close Senate in any time, no need to wait resulst of testing. DS should 'work' on minds already.

Nice quads, but empire are space nazis, and space nazi focus on big terrible scary evil superweapons is largely inspired by Hitler's fascination with superweapons.
Which (in my headcanon) means the project is driven not by any rational vision, but by Creamy Sheev just semicoherently babbling shit like "planet killer!.. unlimited power!.. make it the size of a moon, director Krennic!.. keep it secret too..." and ISB kind of trying to work out some kind of viable strategy around these babblings because they'll be sent to the Sith Penis Explosion Chambers if they don't.

the project is driven not by any rational vision, but by Creamy Sheev just semicoherently babbling shit like "planet killer!

sounds like someone I know, someone orange...

You can interpret this as political allusion if you want - I don't know, I don't follow american politics closely. My idea was more inspired by the countless projects at my work that have gone like this.
I've spent half a year building a useless ML model with terrible recall for a usecase nobody asked for, just because the boomer CEO heard from some one of his golf buddies that "you gotta do AI, everyone does AI" and gave product managers a bunch of almost mutually exclusive directives, and nobody was brave enough to explain that what he wanted did not make sense.
And there's a few others that have gone exactly like this. How we're still even financially solvent with leadership like this I don't fucking know, and maybe I don't want to.

Real life is just like my favorite made up child stories!

Media literacy©™ everybody

You HAVE to GO BACK

lol thats pretty funny, you should tell your boss he reminds you of Emperor Palpatine in the next meeting.

George Lucas knew exactly what he was doing. He is the key to all of this.

I don't typically have a way to speak to the guy directly, but on the day I want to quit, yeah, maybe.

May the force be with you.

Just go back to redddit you massive, massive faggot nigger lover

I would put money on the fact that you've called your boss "literally Hitler" before

Rogue One is the only good modern star wars movie, so of course Andor as well is the only good modern star wars tv show.
Mandalorian is trash too, so tired of seeing anyone defend that shitty show yes even the first 2 seasons, they're not good television.

Everything else nu-wars is objectively awful.
All the sequel movies, phoned in cashgrab kiddie toy sales trash in the worst way possible.
Shit rehashed story, shitty villains, shitty premise, invalidates everything set up in the original movies. Just abject trash.
Mandalorian - overrated trash as I already said above. Muh baby yeed, muh pedro pascal. Shit.
Boba Fett - Just awful.
Ahsoka - literal who character from a shitty kids show, idgaf about this shit.
Solo - No one even asked for this shit.
Obi-Wan - most forgettable pointless show of them all, was forgotten the moment it ended.
Acolyte - No one watched this for a reason.
Skeleton Crew - literal toddler tv show that no one asked for.

and Andor, it's not awful, it's truly not but it's far from the praise that it receives as well, it's not prestige tv if it's Star Wars, not with these mediocre characters. But because it's the only Star Wars content outside of Rogue One that isn't a complete and utter travesty, it gets a pass.

You wont win, you know that right?

You'd lose. It's pretty dumb to call someone "literally Hitler" when they are not, literally, Hitler. Words do have meanings and I respect that.
Besides, that I see similarities between Hitler being an asshole boss with dumb ideas to his engineers, and me having to deal with an asshole boss with dumb ideas only means that asshole bosses having dumb ideas is a common thread in history.

Nah, that sounds gay.

rogue one was dogshit you teenager

Oh look frens the redditor took a psychology class in community college.

oh look it's a retard who thinks school is bad

just like voldemort!

I literally just watched it for the first time, it was good, definitely better than most other star wars slop. I'm 36 years old, you seem mad.

NTA but I don't see how taunting someone for trying to psychoanalyze Anon Babble edgelords translates to "school is bad".
Anyway the argument feels like arguing for the sake of arguing.

You're not allowed to use that word, it's our word.

This but unironically

If it wasn't Star Wars it would have been about a real war and people would have praised it just as much, though it would be even more niche. See Les Miserables

You can't prove to a cynic to whom everything tastes like shit that Wagyu steaks taste good

I agree with this. I don't wanna leave out the Prequels but Phantom Menace is making it hard for me to sell the idea when introducing someone new to Star Wars. Simply leaving it out might be the best option. We learn everything relevant about Anakin in AoTC anyway

Gilroy is done, but I agree Andor is a great base for Star Wars to heal itself. Build up the mysticism, slowly introduce lightsabers back, give them weight.

Unfortunately, you have to accept that everything up to Rise of Skywalker is canon, but you can go from there. Start anew, Empire is dead, new villains. Start from zero. This is how you milk a franchise, not what Disney has been doing.

New trilogy starting with Kyle Katarn being a rebel operative, and at the end he becomes a jedi and finds his villain.

You can soft decanonize the Sequels like Andor soft decanonizes Rebels. Simply tell a compelling story that happens at the same time that ignores all the other shit. In the end the stories of the Sequels even if they include every important character of the franchise is pretty self contained. Just pretend this all happens in some remote part of the Galaxy nobody heard about and tell a completely new story with new characters in the New Republic and Remnants of the Empire and ignore "the Resitance" and "First Order" all together.
Build everything new with a Kyle Katarn like character like you said. Make Desann the overarching villain. Bring back Jedi and the Force slowly and treat it as mystic and mysterious and not as a plot device

You also can go back in time pre-Naboo crisis. The original EU was a little heavy on Jedi shenanigans for my liking, but it's like 1000 years between Ruusan and the end days of the Old Republic, you can fit in a shit load of events in that period. Even if officially there were no wars the the Republic could get by with Judicial Corps and Jedis saving the day, surely there were shenanigans going on in the Outer Rim.

This shit is absurdly overrated

Now that I am no longer being paid by Disney to shill it, I can confirm it is pretty mid.

Rape is bad and if you support rape in Star Wars, you are not a real fan. Vader would never support this. The Empire does not stand for this.

Kleya, Wilmon and Vel should’ve died.

Wagyu is shit. Way too rich tasting.

It wasn't until the last batch of episodes I realized how pure fucking SEXOOOOOO Kleya is

SEX WITH KLEYA SEX WITH KLEYA SEX WITH KLEYA SEX WITH KLEYA SEX WITH KLEYA SEX WITH KLEYA SEX WITH KLEYA SEX WITH KLEYA and Vel

Case in point

Tony Gilroy should make another season of Andor that retells the Rogue One story properly. After that, he should remake the Original Trilogy in Andor’s style. Then, he should create a new sequel storyline

This, but unironically. Everything's a fucking multiverse these days anyway, just make nuwars it's own story and make a new sequel trilogy free from Kennedy and her strangely vindictive writers room.

Kleya was pure sex from the moment she appeared in the first trailer

Without Kennedy Andor could not exist. Not trying to defend her, she produced a lot of crap but her problem is rather that she gives her directors too much free reign rather than telling the when to fuck off. All of TLJ was all pure Rian Johnson being able to do whatever. Nobody forced him to make the movie shitty, he just wanted to make a shitty movie

honestly? worth

if it takes the kind of policy that leads to TLJ or fett to also enable the freedom to get something like an andor, then its worth it.

without that we'd just get endless means tested focus group approved safe crap

endless wave of Ahsoka and Force Awakens

or

random shit including Ahsoka and Force Awakens but you'll get an Andor every once in a while

It's from the 1977 movie you fool, it's Bantha milk

I'm split on this. An executive not being able to put his foot down is how you ruin generally good stuff. Like take the Mandalorian. Beloved series, the glimmering hope after the Sequels shit the bed and they just couldn't let it be after 2 seasons. They had to do too much with S3 and Boba and now it's legacy is ruined. The executive needs to be able to put a stop to things when they realize things go the wrong direction and will be more harmful in the longrun. That's what they are for, to oversee the entire project.
Kathy deserves to take the blame for the Sequels but people shit on her for the wrong reasons. It's precisely that she is NOT able to tell Rian Johnson to fuck off when he suggests that Luke should be the creepy uncle that whips out his lightsaber in his nephews bedroom. Her problem is not that she enforces dumb ideas but rather that she is unable to say to people that they are producing crap.
Of course a yesman is great when it comes to a show like Andor because it would exist under no other circumstances, but shit like TLJ also wouldn't exist. So really she is a 50-50