Can someone explain why Andor insists on making Star Wars look like some BBC crime drama set in space...

Can someone explain why Andor insists on making Star Wars look like some BBC crime drama set in space? Since when do we have red brick buildings in this universe? What happened to futuristic architecture, domes, chrome, whatever happened to visual imagination? Everything looks like it was shot in a parking lot behind a warehouse.

And why are we spending entire episodes watching characters sit around planning heists like it’s Ocean’s Eleven in slow motion? Star Wars has Jedi. Star Wars has lightsabers. You’re telling me nobody can just use a mind trick or slice through a few doors and be done with it? Why is everything suddenly grounded and “realistic”?

We’re watching humans talk about politics and oppression like it's supposed to be some serious commentary. That’s not what Star Wars is for. I don’t care how "well-written" the dialogue is, it’s just people standing in dim rooms having intense conversations, and not a single alien saying something stupid in a funny voice. No aliens, no creatures, barely any droids.

This isn’t what I came to Star Wars for. I came for epic space battles, over-the-top villains, goofy sidekicks, and stories that feel like Star Wars, not whatever dry, joyless drama this is trying to be. It’s like they’re ashamed of what the franchise actually is.

it looks like star wars

it looks like Dr. Who with a budget of more than 5 quid

It’s like they’re ashamed of what the franchise actually is.

Exactly this. They’re embarrassed to be making Star Wars. Everything has to be gritty and mature now, like they’re desperate for critical approval instead of just embracing what made the universe fun in the first place. I don’t watch Star Wars to see some guy brood about economic inequality for ten minutes, I want space monks with laser swords doing impossible flips while a four-armed alien yells nonsense in the background.
They’ve stripped out the mythology, the spectacle, the wonder, all the stuff that gave Star Wars its identity. Now it’s just gray buildings, muttered dialogue, and people talking about “the cause” like it's some prestige cable drama.
It’s like they think being slow and joyless automatically makes it smarter. Meanwhile, we haven’t seen a single memorable creature, no weird aliens, no iconic tech, nothing. Just humans in turtlenecks whispering about logistics.

When did you realize that Dedra was Andor's sister all along?

This isn’t what I came to Star Wars for.

OK, bye felicia.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
You better be joking, anon

t anon who didn't watch the prequels

Star Wars has Jedi. Star Wars has lightsabers

Qyute opposite. OT have much more screentime for people's talking and planning than lightsaber fights.

This isn’t what I came to Star Wars for.

Okay go rewatch TCW, Rebels, Acolyte and Ahsoka. What or who stopping you?

Dedra

no fucking way

Husband status?

They’ve stripped out the mythology, the spectacle, the wonder

Ever since George decided to shape Republic collapse and rise of Empire in a form of institutional crisis.

the people that shat on the politics in prequels are now andor fans

Illegal little latina playtoy

No
Fun
Allowed

Why did the rape scene trigger chuds so hard?

self insertion

well then, time for me to put my goggles on!

Filoni literally gives you all of that shit and you guys berate him endlessly for it. What the fuck do you guys want? Andor is the best written Star Wars thing that’s ever been made and yet you hate it. Not even George Lucas himself would be safe from you fuckers if he was still in control today.

What the fuck do you guys want?

Bring back times when they had erection

they are all dishonest chuds that are spreading propaganda against a show that teaches what it takes to defeat nazis

No it doesn't. Kill yourself.

Because it's a soulless, horribly made show being filmed and written by utterly talentless retards who hate Star Wars/science fiction/good storytelling and are too busy making garbage propaganda.

Perfectly summed up. It's worse than dishonest filmmaking, it's insecure filmmaking. This show is made for the NPC redditors that think HBO shows with tons of sex scenes and an f bomb every other sentence is "mature writing". Everyone involved in making this show are worse than hacks and they should all be executed publicly for churning out this miserable propaganda filth.

Perfectly summed up.

lmao I literally asked ChatGPT to write a whiney incel criticism of Andor

This. It's pure cancer

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i wish I was cool enough that i was actually having sex and doing fun shit instead of watching the prequels in between playing every single video game made by lucas arts

She said her parents died when she was three, this girl is old enough to know she lived in a planet with her brother like lord of the flies

It's like what Star Wars was before 2008 when it became a cartoon for seven year olds and drooling retards.

Bro I just saw the ROTS re-release with my gf and have been playing OG Battlefront for the last few days. You can have all of those things at the same time.

Bix. I would walk a mile on broken glass just to lick her ass

Why is the forster whittaker character so mental?

you'll be uncomfortable watching our hamfisted political soapboxing

and that's a good thing!

doesn't understand freedom

Because the writers of this show are retarded and don't know that the character has extensive history from other Star Wars shows like Clone Wars and Rebels. He's mentally ill from a lifetime of war against the Separatists and then the Empire, but this show decided to be as non-canon as possible and invented a new false backstory for him as an ex-prisoner drug addict out of nowhere. Tony Gilroy is a hack that doesn't understand Star Wars and I have no idea why nobody at Lucasfilm didn't correct all the hundreds of continuity errors this garbage show is filled with.

Star Wars is fun as a setting because you can tell a variety of stories in it, that's almost half the fun of Star Wars. That's fine if you like Star Wars exclusively for the pulp serial adventure angel.

That's the character.

andor is campy and fantastical and nuance and star wars and for kids

Extreme selective pressure. In order to survive as long as he did while opposing the empire you must be either a machiavellian mastermind like luthen or extremely fucking bananas

Why is the forster whittaker character so mental?

because hes a terrorist who huffs gas

Brick talk again

For fuck sakes,why are Star Wars fans such autists about canon?

Chill out dave, you can always make a spinoff in which it shows ahsoka stowed away in luke's x wing at the end of episode 4 and that's how he was able to blow up the death star

If you've been space Taliban for 30 years while huffing gas you would be a little mental too.

youtu.be/2kBC5v8HQXw?si=RrE2VGoG5uJ39ltm

You're a gay retard.

This bait is of excellent quality

andor is obviously the closest thing to lucas original vision desu, star wars always about exploring the corners of galaxy through lore dumps of wherever the plot took place.

noone gave a fuck about the woke original trilogy because it just glazed over the universe and made it lifeless and elevated some gay fucking narratives and propaganda bullshit as the bread and butter.

There's a planet on Star wars with chickens

Star Wars was shit until Andor. That's a fact. Booomer slop. Face it and stfu

It's true, tho. Star Wars was ALWAYS unrelateable Jewish propaganda for boomers. Andor (movie included) literally put this trash universe and lore on the map, because, of relateable plot. FREEDOM vs. Tyranny. Palpable SHIT That WE ALL experienced as of 2020 with the Covid hoax. What boomers had was least Jewish MK Ultra brainwashing about "muh Nazis"—fucking SLOP!

But Saw Gerrera didn't behave like this in the Jedi Fallen Order video game

Boomers didn't have to deal with their freedoms being eroded. THEY ERODED EVERYONE'S FREEDOMS EXCEPT THEMSELVES. They thought the empire was cool and "groovy" and emulated them. I for once couldn't fine a fuck about those pussy ass characters and their lore.
KYS boomer and fuck your faggot ass fanboy fiction slop

that wasnt written by Tony Gilroy, aka the new George Lucas

The best thing to come out of this entire franchise in the last 20 years was that episode of Visions done by Studio Trigger. FACT!!!

Andor introduced like 50 random planets and all their inhabitants are white D list actors and 3 DEI tokens. Aliens are inserted with CGI and have zero agency besides getting a drink at a bar or just wandering off stage.
Barely any stormtroopers or established uniforms, everything was changed and looks unfitting.
And George Lucas original directive on costumes was: NO BUTTONS. NO ZIPPERS. NO LACES. Yet Andor, exclusive in all of SW, breaks all those rules.

you've vaporized everyone

Some rules are meant to be broken and broken floor good fucking reason.

And don't forget that nothing ever happens. There are no stakes or risks. Of course they got the bug. It would have been to exciting for boomers to witness Krennic call for his Death Troopers to arrest the antique store lady. Too daring for Cereal to get caught by the stray blaster shot. Too crazy for Andor witnessing Blix commit suicide.

Literally everything you said is a good thing.

And George Lucas original directive on costumes was:

Didn't ask

Oh nice a thread full of retards

no it's actually the people who liked the politics in ALL OF THE STAR WARS MOVIES
now if you excuse me I have space gas to huff

That scene is so much better than any of this slop we're getting

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it's because he is a dark side character and his dark side is power he uses it and now is cursed to never return to the holy land (the republic)

If you love it so much why don't you marry it

shut up theory faggot

It’s like they’re ashamed of what the franchise actually is.

Thank God. Probably why it's not slop.

Tony Gilroy drops Santiago Calatrava architecture into the Coruscant landscape even though it's completely at odds with the aesthetic of the planet. Lucas incorporated Calatrava-inspired architecture into the design of Utapau, where it reflects the unique qualities of the world.

What Gilroy does here doesn't even require any vision. He's just photographing the work of one of the most well-known living architects and jarringly inserting it into an environment others before him had to actually design.

He's not only unable to conceptualize environments that rise anywhere close to the standard set by Lucas, he actively degrades the few environments he inherits, because he doesn't understand what goes into it.

Thanks anon, but I don't want to go see ROTS with your gf.

Examining the establishing shots of Chandrila and Ghorman, we see they're Earth-like worlds but we have little indication of the culture of the society. Now compare to the establishing shots of Theed and Otoh Gunga. They're otherworldly and we instantly grasp the culture.

Even when we get to ground-level on the worlds in Andor it's hard to gain real insight into their cultures. We learn all about Chandrilan arranged marriage customs, and the people on Ghorman sound French and applaud weird, but can we deeply feel the unique soul of the peoples?

I'm sure the production designers made an effort to distinguish Chandrila from Ghorman architecturally, but right at this moment I cannot visualize the differences for the life of me. I don't think Ghorman strongly *feels* like anything apart from Chandrila.

It doesn't matter how high-quality the sets look if there isn't a keen aesthetic and anthropological vision like Lucas's to back them up. They look impressive in the moment but they easily fall out of memory. It's not something you can buy. Lucas was inimitably good at this.

The visual aesthetics of Naboo doesn't just shout wealth. It communicates artistic and intellectual refinement, and harmony with the natural world. It is perfectly reflective of Padme's inner qualities.

Some ignorant people say Naboo is "just Italy", since it was filmed in Italy. It's clearly not. If this was Andor, Naboo people would speak some gibberish Italian, wear some Italian clothes and eat Pizza. Because that's what space-France Ghorman in Andor was like: speak gibberish French, wear French beanies and trench coats, eat croissants and drink coffee in the street-cafes, and they make fashion clothes. And they are also literally French resistance during WW2, in case you didn't get!

Cool picture
Didn't read a word you wrote

its chuddy pasta

More blah blah blah

weird flex, but okay

If I wanted a lecture about drywall I would ask a mexican

became a cartoon for seven year olds and drooling retards

That happened in 1999. Arguably 1983, though I still like RotJ.

Perfectly fine with me.

andor fans love that, tho?

why is andor so woke you guys im a legitimate star wars fan oops wrong picture

are white D list actors and 3 DEI tokens

might actually watch this now, thanks

Star Wars is the sloppiest slop franchise to ever exist. It's a legitimate miracle something of quality was even able to come out of a world that's the cinematic equivalent to a small retarded child smashing action figures together.

where it reflects the unique qualities of the world.

Such as..?
Also, this is the same part of plaza around Senate building where statues (jedi or founding members of the Republic) used to be in the Episode 1. So makes sense for Palpatine drastically reshaping nominal heart of his Empire in order to erase jedi and republic legacy.

harmony with the natural world.

marble buildings and statues

angular streets

royal palace in certainly non-Byzantine/Ottoman architecture

harmony

Sure

but can we deeply feel the unique soul of the peoples?

Actually yeah. Take for example what we've seen in Chandrilla.
Ceremonial gift of antlers before bride's doorstep is reflects original hunter shepherd tradition of ancient chandrillans, which correlates with mountain landscape and next tradition: ceremonial hike. Which leads to source of inspiration for dresses, Japan and Ancient Rome/Greece (remember that massive farming like latifundium, wasn't natural roman way of life, they learned it from Carthage once Rome become large enough)
Another tradition, maiden braids, looks exactly like Jedi padawan braids, which emphasize how actually old Chandrilla's history that they share (or was a source) customs with one of the oldest institutions in Star Wars Universe, Jedi Order.
Meanwhile gungans?

just an aliens who speaks funny

Same, for me personally it's not even about politics I just think Andor is aesthetically ugly as shit and there's no diversity in species, it doesn't feel like Star Wars. The aliens that do show up continue the sequel tradition of looking like a brown lumpy human thing, there is no creativity there. I don't mind the serious themes but it looks like it was filmed in my backyard rather than being a million dollar production.

such as that Utapauans build their shit out of the bones of giant creatures that inhabit the planet
Andor shit? This is just earth architecture that is photographed and awkwardly inserted into the pre-existing world of Star Wars, and looks entirely out of place as a result

low iq trandorfag ignoring how the very city of theed is built into natural structures, and how the shape of architecture reflects its intent

low iq trandorfag missing the point of gungan culture, their warrior culture, their energy harvesting technology, because it wasn't an embarrassing huge monologue dump, like in trandor

there's no diversity in species

good

assembling a creative team of designers and letting them work was one of lucas' most important decisions.

It's got the surrender-nazi from Inglorious Basterds as a guy who speaks alien french

Did you get that medal for killing the Banking Clan?

Shut the fuck up and actually kill yourself, this talentless loser isn't even on JJ Abrams' level let alone an actually talented visionary like George Lucas.

It's because Gilroy isn't really a huge Star Wars fan. He makes espionage thrillers and this one just happens to be set in Star Wars

Great game. Only played as the Imperials and never the Rebels.

There is so much more about this show that doesn't feel like or fit with Star Wars than just that. It is not aesthetically, stylistically, or tonally anywhere near any of Star Wars. It doesn't even fit with Rogue One, the movie this shit is a spin off from. They failed on absolutely every conceivable level at making something watchable, let alone Star Wars. It's embarassing how soulless and shitty this show is.

*laughs in Andor*

Shut the fuck up and actually kill yourself, this talentless loser isn't even on JJ Abrams' level let alone an actually talented visionary like George Lucas.

This is just earth architecture that is photographed and awkwardly inserted into the pre-existing world of Star Wars

So basically just like Roman triumphal arch erupted at the capital of nation which are committed pacifists?

very city of theed is built into natural structures,

Pic strongly related.

gungan culture, their warrior culture

You are right, I've noticed it by how Jar Jar called Sebulba into Circle of Equals on Tatooine.

Fair, Star Wars films are the worst part of their own universe

This post will go over everyone's head

this

Andor the main character seems such a unremarkable and boring character. I understand he's supposed to represent the "average" man, but he's just bland and boring. V did it much better.

It has the classic Star Wars nuance to it thoughbeit.

No it doesn't. This show has less nuance than children's cartoons. It's a disgusting edgelord temper tantrum against Donald Trump and people who support him and nothing more. This is the least intelligent, least mature, and least nuanced show I've ever seen actually.

Friends with decent taste told me to watch this. Is it good? I don't care for star wars slop most of the time but I might give it a try.

No, and you should probably stop trusting their taste. The show is legitimately shit.

Yep, Andor has the classic OT nuance. Expect lots of office drama, though.

Tony Gilroy is a massive hackfraud that got undue credit for helping fix Rogue One, even though the other guy did most of the actual work. Andor budget is ultra-bloated and the pacing is horrendously slow. It has none of the charm or imagination of actual Star Wars and just aren't fun to watch. It has gotten a pass because it gets compared with absolute slop like Rings of Power.

Did you get that medal for killing the Banking Clan?

(responds in alien language)

Catchphrases, wigs, and the jokes are lame
see his pug nose face!
Pug! Pug!
Pug! Pug!

since it has a rounded top and a tiled roof, it can't be a triumphal arch.

See
It's awful. Pseud trash for leftists that pushes LGBT shit and anti-Trump rhetoric and doesn't even try to be science fiction or Star Wars.

Tell me this wouldn't be an iconic scene if it happened in the OT: youtube.com/watch?v=nNYt3m_D7ws

Halfway through season 2 and no X-Wing has gone into attack position yet :/

I'm thinking an Old Boy kind of disgusting twist where Bix Noodle is his sister

If he have decent taste, the answer is obvious. Search your feelings, you know you will have fun watching season 1. Season 2 is arcs of the remaining 5 cut season. You two will enjoy the 'nuance'.

if you are a chud you might as well drink urine instead, if not youll love it

I have been trying to get through s02e05 for a couple days now and I just can't. It's more boring than The Ackolyte, Ashoka, and even Obi-Wan. The fuck is this lame political nonsense? WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS. DANCE SCENE. WORDS

you faggots are tireless, disney has delivered unrelenting shallow childish trash and finally a show that doesnt treat you like a child and you say its too slow boring.

go back to watching marvel movies faggot

they are all chud trolls who feel threatened by the message of Andor

and well, they should be.

you son of bitch. i set you up perfectly for

you seem to be having some difficulty with the concept

Staying up late on Tuesday nights to watch a whole arc dump is actually ruining my sleep schedule

they are all chud trolls

says the tankie troll

I don't feel as bad for the Ferrix people knowing Ghorman is going to have two massacres within just a few years of each other

Nothing happens. It's just people talking endlessly aside from what, two scenes? When he escapes from the Star Destroyer and also escapes from the group stranded on some planet? Or that one scene where the black chick fires off a single shot to kill the Imperial?

Same, I can't get over this tasteless political scene.

LIES!
DECEPTIONS!

That's why its called Blandor

The fuck is this lame political nonsense? WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS. DANCE SCENE. WORDS

This is how you know the show is really good. When action-tards make complaints like this.

That was set 11 or so years before this.

ANH has a version of Partagaz

pottery

It's fucking Star WARS, nigger. Not Star Words. And it's not like they say anything fucking interesting.

Sup, SWT? You know EU, Legends and even Canon can be cherry picked, right? Only George's 6 movies matter. The shows, comics, games, books, even the ST are there to make your own head Canon.

tsmt

Star Trek DS9 did it much better. Better setting. Better characters. Good blend of action and WORDs

I don't know what SWT is. I'm going to assume a YouTuber or something. I don't watch shit like that exactly due to my complaint. Just words of nothing interesting. Go fuck yourself.

yes you do, its you.

I agree, actually. Though I never finished DS9 and keep forgetting to. Maybe that's what I'll watch on my day off tomorrow.

Star Words

opening starts with a crawl of words

they tell on themselves easily

The correct choice.

No. I don't. But you clearly do and are well-versed in it like the faggot you are.

A couple minutes of text crawl opposed to hours of people just rambling

lol you know everyone hates you right

The opening that lasts for like what? A minute? Versus entire episodes of words? Oh boy you showed them.

Good. Stay seething to the point you have to compare me to some YouTube boogeyman who I have never even heard of because I don't watch YouTubers.

>Star Words

words bad, education woke, ignorance good

This

Why can't Blandor be cool like Donovan?

You're ignorant because you don't want to listen to some women rant and then see like ten minutes of people dancing while it cuts back and forth between plots

yall fish in anons net

why isnt star wars bad like it used to be??? its gone woke!!!!!

I'm legitimately not baiting though. I have stopped the episode multiple times to watch other shit like the entire season of Eternaut. I thought the first season was acceptable, honestly. This shit is just a slog.

Lol delusional faggot who is desperate for attention. Sorry your parents never loved you.

Fuck, I don't care. I don't want some total CGI world like the prequels. As long as they're building sets and actually filming people on locations with physical backgrounds it can look like whatever. Why in all the universe would there not be bricks???
People like this show. They threw huge budgets at plenty of SW shit and people didn't want it. Whatever Andor is doing, they're apparently doing it right.

Also, EVERYONE is ashamed of what the franchise is.

Believe it or not, it's true. The Phantom Menace alone had more models and animotronics than the entire OT combined. In addition to all the green screen. The Prequels were incredibly pioneering in terms of film production if less so for quality.

Reminder all nu wars is faggot shit

I have all the bts books with visual evidence. You think they just created Mos Espa with CGI? The entire slave quarters exist. The Palace in Theed is 90% real. the landing platform on the senate building and the first 4 meters of the columns are real. Padme's apartment and balcony are real.
why do you think Adam Savage built a 2m model of Kamino?

anyone who doesn't like andor, is a chud 99 times out of 100

You really should just end your life you pathetic attention seeker. This is the only place you'll get it. Now excuse me while I go fuck my girlfriend and your mom because she appreciates my dick more than your existence.

I'm reading some star wars novels and it actually pisses me off how many planets and alien races there are. I don't even think some of these planets are in the movies.

Because they're not referenced. It's supplemental material. The books are the reason Thrawn is so loved.

Don't care, zoomer. They all look like shitty screensavers to me. Whatever real shit the apartment was built from is lost when they fill in the giant windows with flying cars and weird buildings. You can tell me how real it is but it doesn't look or feel real to me like the oridge tridge does.

zoomer

1993

so you prefer the actual cgi inserts in the ot on bespin for example? or the bad static backgrounds that usually only looked good in the grainy VHS and DVD releases or the big screen, where it is barely noticeable?
The atrocious effects of the asteroid explosions in empire?

I watched the first five minutes of the first episode and immediately thought "shitty BBC production", looked it up on IMDB and sure enough it was made by BBC sloppists. Kind of remarkable how distinct that look is.

Everything has to be gritty and mature now

Uhhh no? Every other SW show is the sloppiest, cringiest, Marvelesque trash. 95% of film and tv today is a Pixar-smirk quipfest.

Yes. Because I'm in my forties and I don't judge things based on "graphics" and 4k perfection. I'll happily watch my unaltered trilogy on my CRT and not miss anything you care about.
I never found anything you mentioned to be distracting in all my years of liking old Star Wars.

Reminder all nu wars is faggot shit

Filoni literally gives you all of that shit

He doesn't he gives slop. OT is still the best example of what Star Wars should be. Disney even ruined Thrawn by using him in some shitty Ahsoka show. Dude should have gotten his own film trilogy in theaters.

Andor season 1, Andor season 2, and Rogue One is the real prequel trilogy.