40 was a comical age to be a virgin in the 2000s

40 was a comical age to be a virgin in the 2000s

7 months

I can never tell if this is bait or you people are legit incels

Like how hard is it? Just go on youtube and watch some guides on how to dress, hit the gym, take some good pics of yourself, make instagram, go on dating app, then exchange instagrams with girls

Not really - I'm 48 and one

I'm impotent

Sorry, I dont' care any more about fitting in and having sex just so I can say I'm not a virgin anymore.

Even then you'll always be weird because of how late you lost it.

I stopped giving a fuck about it and being attracted to real women when I hit 30.

then exchange instagrams with girls

top kek
if this isn't bait I doubt you're over 25

okay well if you are gay or whatever medical reasons then dont complain about it

instagram is a must have if you are dating after 2020 retard how else are the girls gonna know if you are real

Didn't complain about it, not that guy, but I'm a 48-year-old, impotent virgin

instagram is a must have if you are dating after 2020 retard how else are the girls gonna know if you are real

lmaoing rn ong fr bruh :skull: :skull: :skull:

It is society that complains about me being a virgin.

let me guess, you dont have an instagram? Enjoy fucking only ugly girls then

Wasn't complaining, just answered your question.

Why do you incels care so much? I dumped my girlfriend over a year ago and haven't been happier in a decade. You guys don't know how good you have it

You cut your hand off? That's pretty fucked up.

am not virgin but i never had gf

Adult male virgins are fun to laugh at. They're like 30 year old women who are childless, just absolute failures.

You keep posting the same fag over and over, you two should get a cheap motel room and go to town on each other.

It's the same thing, if you'd only had sex with hookers you are still a virgin

I had a cute girl throw herself at me my freshman year of college and we had sex for three months before she ghosted me. That was 15 years ago and I've never even held hands with a woman since.

instagram is a must have if you are dating after 2020 retard how else are the girls gonna know if you are real

Every day I find more and more proof that Ted Kaczynski was absolutely correct about everything

It still is you disgusting incel

Why do I feel like women are right in rejecting men like me and other incels? We have nothing to offer, we're not fit and we're boring. I have no skills, live with my parents, go to the gym and then go home. I'm literally worthless.

bot thread

Wanting to be a man whore ruining and pissing in the dating pool even further

The sexual revolution was a mistake.

Friendly reminder that Ted K got MK Ultra'd at uni, no wonder he lashed out, fuck the CIA.

No one cares about your moral fagging, escpecially women and sexually succesful men. You are not gonna get them in line.

It seems like you have a lot of men in line, where do you find them, airport glory holes like politicians?

absolute retard thinks that this is how you create a sincere connection with someone.

Adult male virgins are fun to laugh at.

based

It's surely not going to be in airport glory holes or on instagram you total fag!

learn to speak retard

Some people are unironically socially impaired because of shit upbringing, almost invariably from overprotective parents and bullying. Parents who are fearful but give no reason to be doubted, shit friends that push you away, fundamentalist context that demonizes sexual exploration and strict schools that ban relationships under threat of expulsion to avoid teen pregnancies. Also feminist narrative or idealistic stuff like platonic love floating around the internet, now incel, volcel, redpill, blackpill communities reinforcing support for virgins.

After years of emotional suppression you are left with little to relate with people but struggles, and people are not drawn to someone who struggles. People are cowards, they don't want to risk feeling things and getting hurt, so they avoid people who feel deep and carousel on shallow relationships based on relaxation and vibe.

.

zoomers are so fucking mind broken the idea of even just talking to a woman IRL is not even an option.

Modern young women consider virtually any attempt to interact with them IRL in any way to be harassment, entitlement, or some other assorted buzzwords.

Yeah except you dont know if girls are single or even interested in you, so its better to just use apps to prevent making her uncomfortable.

You do understand dating sites existed before social media. Shit I know a woman who got married to a guy that she met in a lonely hearts ad in the local newspaper.
Before the internet was as prevalent as it is now.
You dont need to do either.
Get a job, start speaking to people, speak to waitresses or women working in shops.
Just speak to women, its not hard, they are just human beings like you, but different sex which has its own level of differences. Plus personal characters.
As long as you are not a complete ugly looking weirdo its simple just finding a woman as you live and has been done as such for millennia.

Your advice is about as in touch and useful as telling poor people to "just start making lots of money and be rich instead!".

Same goes for posts like these.

all you have to do is: lists like 10 different fucking things that take years to achieve

I refuse to believe people can have this level of complete lack of self awareness.

anon, the world is entirely different, when I go into any classroom no one looks or talks to each other, they look at their phone. I'm not saying it can't be done, it's in fact probably a much better bet than looking online, but it's a lot harder than it was three decades ago

telling poor people to "just start making lots of money and be rich instead!".

It's good advice, though. Stop being lazy.

hello boomer

tfw turn 32 next month and still a kissless virgin

It's so over. God I'm so fucking lonely

i'm literally autistic and have never approached a woman let alone tried to have sex with one and yet i've had a lot of sex in my life. i think you have to either be deliberately trying to not have sex or be genuinely repulsive to be a virgin at 40.

Congrats on being tall I guess.

All of you sad people should kys. You have failed life

5'8" is tall?

then you're not autistic and pretty handsome

go on dating app

Rather cut my cock off than submit to this humiliation ritual.

You have to go back.

i am literally clinically diagnosed with autism and struggle severely with every social interaction i have among other things

if we were all still naked monkeys i wouldn't need to say anything. i dunno if you're a woman with big tits the whole world gets to know but if you have a big dick i dunno what you do without getting arrested

Everyone's an autist nowadays. People are so eager to get labelled with a condition. In reality, you probably just suck.

Are you trolling? What about the girls who asked you out?

Why do I feel like women are right in rejecting men like me and other incels?

Women are right to reject the men that they don't want and the men that they do want are right to continually string them along and refuse to commit to them until they go insane.

We all get what we deserve.

this place is packed with bitter angry 30+ yo incels

Reddit was right

are you retarded? that's a rhetorical question btw because it's evident that you are.

if anything Anon Babble is far too normie now

gatekeep these faggot normgroids and get them outta here

this. Am I supposed to believe this retard is autistic when some individuals are non verbal and are to be restrained so they don't hit themselves? Are we even talking about the same condition anymore?

I'm a literal sperg who has trouble initiating talk and becoming increasingly insecure towards my own delayed development.

once you hit about age 28 you stop caring. i look back on my days of actually caring about being a virgin with extreme cringe.

oh look another retard

I stopped caring about my virginity after I lost my virginity, no idea why people get so hung up over it

yep. its crazy actually how so many normals with nothing wrong with them get official diagnosies.

this is why you're going to die a virgin

you must be the funniest guy in the whole office.

yeah thats fine. as i said.

All "online" is a new social situation. People have been meeting in social situations forever. it the point.
Parties, bars, shops, launderettes, work.
Mainly people meet perspective partners via friends (who in turn have partners)
Why would you think things have changed just because we have internet at our fingertips.
There are still dating sites, still lonely heart add, and now even more options with dating "apps" (which are generally just sex apps and should be avoided in finding perspective partners for obvious reasons"

Not being a social misfit doesn't mean I am old.
When I was a teenager I would go to parties, in my 20s bars, in my 30s after stopping caring about chasing women I still meet them just by living. Half the fucking population are wormen, Of course you are gonna meet women who like you want to fuck and have a relationship. It is what we as humans are designed to do, partner up for reproduction and comfort. Our entire society is built around it.

into any classroom

WTF. People go to classes to learn not to socialize. Assuming you mean college and not fucking school, which would be even worse.
Generally people in university and colleges will socialize outside of class. You don't speak to others about anything other than what is relevant to the current (or past missed) lectures.

Go and work in a female orientated profession like non medical work in a hospital, where subsequently there are tons of nurses. You are guaranteed to meet women, First as a working relationship, then as humour, after getting comfortable with each other, possibly later, flirting and romantic relationship.
It is not hard in the slightest and fuck I am not even a chad and have met women and got pussy not even trying, Don't even need to try, it arises naturally by nature.

glad you accept being a full blown retard

I think it still is

Autism varies a lot. I mean you have someone like Chris Chan (let's say in 2007) who obviously has something going on but can still talk, have a job, operate a motor vehicle, but will still be seen as kinda retarded. Someone could tend to be a lot more socially-aware but hit themselves when they get easily frustrated

you probably just suck

It's a diagnosis designating you socially-retarded in a way, so yes, the idea is to learn to actually talk to people from that point

go and work in a female orientated profession like non medical work in a hospital

every person on their phone during break and any spare moment of time

idk anon i'm just gonna try to fuck the nerdy girl in a art group i'm in

lol

you're just a regular normie trying to score some sympathy points with a fake diagnosis

Not really as the poverty trap is real.
Just like your options for pussy gets more limited the ugly you are or poor you are, though irony poor people have sex more than wealthy people as they have more time and less fulfilment in their lives to fuck.

When it comes to meeting women, half the population are women. You would have a hard time walking down a street and not seeing a woman than do seeing one and only if you were living in a fucking priesthood or monk monastery.

Meeting women is as simple as seeing a woman and being polite.
Seeing them again and building a general rapport
If your charactes and culture are compatible a relationship will grow.
Build trust with each other. (meaning he is not an axe murdering rapist, seems nice)
Then unfortunately for us men it is normally us that has to take the first step so often have to take rejection, but that is just as simple as a conversation as like "we see each other quite a bit, you busy, want to grab some food or a drink?" if it doesn't work, OK, if it does converse with the other person other a natural bodily function of eating or drinking.
If shit doesn't progress from there....so what, still be friendly and carry on with life and you meet another woman. Plus it gives you practice.

The only thing stopping this type of shit is inner faults like being a weirdo, socially retarded, not confident but you just work on those things first like the anon above who said some shit about getting an Instagram but you dont even need that shit.
Just hygiene, being normal etc.
Even if you are not normal you can find women. Shit I found a woman in a mental hospital before. Another (and perspective partners) one in a religious community.
Like there is always someone who mirrors your character or circumstances from the other sex. To a certain extent as we are all actually individual.

okie dokie.

literally doesn't work. If you are over 25 it's basically over

are you really on here writing paragraphs about this shit on a friday night?

wow, its almost as if having had your penis in a vagina before somehow magically makes you not a huge fucking loser.

i'm coming up on age 31 as a virgin, also been porn free for 10 months. feels good. everything tends to get more bright and positive when you aren't weighed down by constantly wanting to see tits. its great.

idk anon i'm just gonna try to fuck the nerdy girl in a art group i'm in

This is it though.
Assuming you are a nerdy kid yourself you will get on. if not might be hard to ever fuck her let alone get along unless you are very attractive and she desires you.
One of my friends as a kid was mesomorph and handsome but a manlet, but also had charisma and lots of experience with pussy so he could get women easy, but he would often go for quiet shy inexperienced girls as partners (and fuck older experienced women) and it would always end in break ups.
He is also not very smart so i imagine not stimulating as an actual partner.

If sex is the issue, being unconfident, just bang prozzies. Nobody IRL needs to know, very discrete all done online. Easier than ever (adultmeet.com)
Meeting bitches now is like a fucking meat market of online shopping, it is inorganic, hence why those "dating apps" just turned out to be "sex apps"
With possible exception of shit like bumble or OG dating sites that then also made an app. Plenty of fish for example.

Need actual human connection and communication to build a relationship and starting this via meat market tier apps seldomly works.

I have had my confidence destroyed in the most horrible way possible and can legit trust nobody anymore.

Based post.

i really have to wonder what kind of guy is on here writing paragraphs about recommending prostitutes. the huge lack of self awareness to recommend that while thinking you're some kind of chad is actually insane stuff.

Cartoons are better anyway

women find men of the same age attractive.
men find women who are 20 attractive.
do with this information what you will

I just feel like I have nothing to say... I can think of questions to ask right now, like she has an interest in drawing, I'd like to ask her what she likes to draw, but that never comes into my brain at that moment. We are both nerdy and seem to seek getting out of the house more, we certainly live reasonably close to each other. The only thing she knows about me is that I do origami and stuff

normal person:

yeah i've never had a gf before, and i'm not into casual sex, oh well

yeah i've had a long term gf/wife for a long time, i have sex, but its not like its a huge deal

complete and utter freaks:

i've never had sex and i cry about it 24/7

you're literally subhuman if you haven't at least paid money to fuck a diseased hole in a filthy motel

it is a saturday afternoon here and I am just recovering from a bender that finished on thursday. Have shit to do on monday so am in bed recovering and shitposting.
I am not a zoomer fuck so when you spend decades typing on a keyboard it becomes second nature and effortless to express views via words. Paragraphs are nothing.
Being an ADHD zoomer phoneposter and this shit is lost on you.

Prostitution is the age old profession.
When you go and take some bitch from a sex app on a date and buy her food, you are doing the same thing just may not even get fucked if you fuck it up.
Prozzies are the cheaper, economical and straight forward solution to the "I just want to fuck" dilemma, and they even cater for all types of personal fetishes.
You are just a retard and don't undertand because reading definitions of words is beyond your mind.
Read the definition of the word prostitution and while at it check the prozzy website....
Like the anon is trying to explain shit is online, its a meat market of prozzy pussy no difference than the meat market of tinder, Just a different service.
Some of these bitches you see in your local community or on tinder might even be prozzies anyway and you don't know.
Shit when I was a teen I knew 2, possibly 3 relatively attractive girls (16 and under when they started) who were prozzies. One didn't even realize she was a prozzy. Getting fucked and paid in material possessions or drugs (cannibis)
They were pretty girls you would desire but are actually just prozzies.

You learn this when you grow up, most women are shit people and not to be treated with any sort of favouritism.
Prozzies are the best use if you are full of sexual desire, unconfident in your sexual ability and want to build confidence to then be able to fuck women without loosing your load instantly.
Also good to use if you have not had sex for a while for the same reason.

If there is a shared interest, that’s 90% of the battle. Invite her over to show her your drawings or if there is a movie or event even slightly related to your shared interest, just ask her out in a casual setting as a friend. The worst thing she can say is “gross, no”, tho she likely won’t if you set it up in a friendly je ne seis quoi way. Try it anon. We’ll be here when you get back.

make instagram, go on dating app, then exchange instagrams with girls

how is casual sex with whores you hate better than masturbating exactly?

I mean ideally you’d find one that you like or at least can stand to be with for more than a day. That’s kinda the whole point of dating, anon.

Don't take statistics as facts anon. Plus everyone has fetishes or preferences.
i always liked chubby mid 30s women and never even really liked teenagers when i was one, sexual preference I mean.

As for speaking to others as ice breaker, its not even hard you just talk to someone.
With women they respond better to initial conversations when you are NOT trying to perceive that you are only communicating with them just because you want to fuck. So in your case being genuinely interested in what she is drawing and in comparison to what you draw...rather than "asking her something so I can start communicating"
Actually BE interested in what she is drawing and sharing what you are drawing...
fucking hell its so easy
If another guy came up to you and asked you the time or what time a sport event is on but you could sense he had alternate motives...you would be wary of him and not trust him. It's the same speaking to a woman, they can sense your motives.
Being honest is a fundamental of any conversation.

I have always found it easier to not try and fuck women and it arises natural;y but speaking to (grils) at school or street life at home when i was a child, women at work and in social life after school was just part of living anyway.

Nice to see the engagement bots are back

It is not but one of those things you have to break through and realize that without a deeper connection with the other person sex is rather hollow and basic physical pleasure.
Shit now I been using the same women for memory and fantasy for like 15 years that I fucked like 13 years ago just as a release tool, not even desiring women.

Some people just don't have the balls to go fuck the drug addict chick at the pub with half her teeth missing or a twink gay dude off grinder. Because of that they stay virgins for decades.

Actually BE interested

fucking hell its so easy

it's really not, I don't know how to summon that interest for other people. I'm interested in being around people, but I don't have the drive to learn more about them when I'm actually there in person. I wish I could find people more interesting but it never breaks beyond extremely surface level. I know that's my fault but I really don't know what to do there other than write on my hand TALK TO HER

no you don't

girls who asked you out

are you really on here writing paragraphs about this shit on a friday night?

wow, its almost as if having had your penis in a vagina before somehow magically makes you not a huge fucking loser.

deflect and cope kek. it's over for you incel, because you project that prickly aura every time you interact with a woman. you'll never get your dick wet as a bitter little fuck who thinks the world is against him, it's an instant ick

Practice compassion and genuine care for others would probably be the solution to this "fault" as you call it (character trait, or lack of)
Though this would be getting into more religious, or self development concepts that is more off topic than the entire thread.

There is the whole fake it till you make it idea, but that just refutes what I said to begin with.
You could also just brute force try and get to a point where you realize she is just as socially awkward than you and from that potentially love and consideration for others arises in your character.
From my albiet limited experiencw with art hoes is they were all like damaged goods type of girls, shy and unconfident and used art as an expression tool.
I know (knew as I dont associate with people from my youth any more)
A girl who used to draw lots of face sitting pussy eating shit erotica (and post it on fagbook back in the day too)
Another who did come from a broken home, alt goth/emo girl, into tattoos, became cyber goth in later years, still now too I think.
Another 3 when I was at college (I actually did art too) who were "witches in a coven"
All kind of "feeling orientated" sensitive shy girls, apart from the goth, she grew out of that early on.
This is early 00s though so the culture is different to alt girls than but the character traits are the same, or similar.
So you can understand that she herself might be a sperg, nervous to speak with others but really wants to...
Sympathize, empathize etc.

DUDE MARRIAGE ROCKS

I wish I were you, lost mine at 30 and I still regret it. I'm nearly 33

Meeting women through the internet is a miserable experience. Even ignoring how much effort it can take to squeeze even a single date out of a woman, it's just deeply demoralizing to not even have the dignity of being rejected face to face. You just become a talking head, desperately trying to forget a connection in an environment that's doing everything in it's power to distract her.
It's just not a pleasant experience, if you want to put the effort in then you have to hang around women in meat space, at a running club or a climbing gym or something. At least there you get some face time, there's dignity in that

I sperged out and ruined the moment. I've had girls suggest I sleep with them and even have a relationship with them only for me to talk my way out of those situations.
Autism is a curse.

i'm in my mid thirties, and only been on one day in my mid twenties. the entry barrier seems too much now to bother

I am 30 years old and I never even kissed a girl

There hasn't been any kino poking fun at male virginity in a long time. It might have been a 2000s thing

what if they are good looking?

most are not terrible looking

wtf is male virginity anyway? i fucked ex-gf ages ago and it didn't made me feel any different than before, it's some kind of mental state that niggers put themselves in?

Still is. Freakish even. So is 30 or 25. Hell, I didn't get laid until I was 20 and that's embarrassing as all hell in itself. I can't imagine being 40 and never having had sex.

if you are real

By standing in front of each other like real people do.

what's so creepy and embarrassing about not having sex? it means absolutely nothing
you (and many others) probably baiting, but who knows

Is it better to be KHV than failed normie who had sex 4 times with 2 different fatties 10y ago?

it just is. same as if you said you never peed standing.

she's most certainly also a sperg

Practice compassion and genuine care for others would probably be the solution to this

okay, anon, but that's kind of circular advice. It's kind of like how Christianity is very focused on how great God is; it only really has weight if you already are in agreement with it.
I've read a lot of Buddhist shit and have practiced the six stages of metta, and it's not all that helpful, but I have been reading the Tao Te Ching lately. A good chunk of it has to do with what makes great leadership, but last night I read "if you don't trust the people you make them untrustworthy", which I think is the crux of my problem. I can't trust that people aren't intentionally seeking out the worst in me, and that makes me act aloof. That's what I need to fix

It's just a sign of extreme social maladjustment. It's like eating pizza starting with the crust. Nothing really wrong with it but the whole room is gonna look at you funny if you do it that way.

I did none of that and still get pussy. It's alarming how disconnected from reality these incels are.

mfw incels still get mad that Andy's gf convinced him to sell his collectible action figures for a quarter of a million dollars

Assuming that you're telling the truth in a website where people LARP and lie all the time, why did you have sex with those women at all?
To get your dick hard you need to be attracted to them, so what happens if a guy is only approached by women he's not attracted to? Should he lower his standards and bed someone he's uncomfortable with?

That's just bullshit. They want you to talk to them. The worst they can do is not be interested. There haven't been cases of people being reported for approaching a woman once. That doesn't happen. They don't call police, you're not put on a list, no one takes your picture. They just shoot you down and go back to their drink or whatever they were doing. Usually they're nice about it. Sometimes they'll talk to you and then leave. Sometimes they'll take your number and not call. But they don't make a big case of it. The more you talk to women the easier it gets and the better you do. You just have to know - in the moment you step up - that you're awesome and if they don't like you the next one will.
And if you get sick of rejection ask a gross girl for attention and then feel the other side of it when she gets interested and you have to decline her advances. Or hell, go for it and lose your virginity.
Life is a series of experiences. Staying in and risking nothing like a chickenshit isn't going to cut it when you look back on it all on your deathbed.
It took me many years to realize I had to get out of my own way and stop worrying about what people thought of me if I wanted to be happy. I hope some of you can do the same.

its all mental

This.

what kind of buttfucking bizzarre comparison is this
never peeing standing is strange, but it's not something to actively shame and ridicule about
humans are just niggers of universe

oh my science that is so true!

height: 6'2

well, normalfags are faggots anyway, anyone with a brain cell won't be bothered by "virgins" existing

Good luck with that, "fren". Go start a virgin website if you want to feel safe.

lol your so right only humans care about sex

How are points awarded on a completely anonymous forum? There aren't even IDs of any kind on this board. Weirdo.

I want sex, I don’t want to invest time and money in searching for sex. I refuse to participate in this rigged game that benefits only women.

keyed post
plonked thread

because sex is so basic that you've got to be a real weirdo, deformed, literally retarded, traumatized (real trauma not "stacy was mean to me in kindergarten"), or loony in some way, to have never engaged in such a normal human thing.

Good advice. Incels don't like good advice. They like to wallow in self-pity and keep telling themselves that it's impossible because of 'chad' and alpha beta whatever, etc. It's a whole thing. But basically all women are sluts and cheating whores unless you get a virgin when you're still underage. The rest are compromised and you can never truly enjoy love or life if you didn't have some teenage summer romance from the movies.
So tiresome. But still we try and give them hope because we live in the real world.

I started with the Tao in my teens and now take a more compassionate buddhist approach but compassion itself from this perspective is an inner virtue it doesn't independently sort the issue out, what it will do is make you empathize with others plight more, but it needs to be practices in study, meditation and real life (mental) application.

There is a very good practice, (tibetan Buddhism) called lojong, whos entire thing is about controlling unwholesome thoughts and purposely arise wholesome thoughts like compassion.
It is an every second of every day practise, so maybe look into that if you genuinely want to develop love and compassion for others.
Though this is a "how long is a piece of string" practice until you would see effect, so not exactly gonna sort immediate problems out.

he pisses sitting down

you've got to be

no, you're not, you just making mind numbingly retarded assumptions about person you don't know, what if he simply doesn't give a fuck?

I do on special occasions, its a nice change of routine. and of course when I need a shit too.

what if he simply doesn't give a fuck?

falls under the weirdo, traumatized or loony categories

what if he has greater ambitions in life and has no time or desire to fuck?

You're not a normal person then. Or you haven't met many people. It's only every few years, but I'll meet a woman I just NEED to be around after meeting her. And I end up being persistent until I get to date her or I'm finally told to stop because it's not going to happen.
And meeting dude friends is a little different but it's still finding interest in someone and wanting to spend more time because you see the world the same way.
If you don't ever have interest in other people you've got some social problems beyond just boredom or shyness. It's mental issues. Like some guy over on Anon Babble posting about how he doesn't like food and thinks of it only as fuel, and that everyone else who likes food and cooks and puts any thought or interest into food is some sort of weirdo. I'm not sure what causes the odd ones to ignore how the majority of the world differs from them and instead just invert reality to make themselves completely typical. Must be some sort of mental self-preservation thing that psychologists understand.

no, he doesn't

has no time or desire to fuck?

everyone, even the ambitious, has desire to fuck and makes time for it. unless you're a weirdo, traumatized or loony

Why do you retards read that shit and think it's representative of many relationships? It's popular to read online exactly BECAUSE it's fucked up and impossible to relate to. Yet you doomed blackpill nutjobs always hold that shit up like >this is why I'm really better off just being a virgin forever. Because this is the typical occurrence for the sex-haver.

I can't get hard anymore and I now have lesions on my penis.

Just invent a string of past relationships. Write it down and memorize their names and what ended things. If the woman thinks you're on the rebound and always coupled she'll want to be next in line. It then becomes living a web of lies for the entirety of the relationship, which may come crashing down when you realize you're out of your depth with her, but it can be fun while it lasts and it will pop your cherry. Only a true lying coward can pull this kind of shit off though. Not everyone is born with it.

There would be fewer incels if we didn't have so many other avenues for entertainment. I can happily sit in my room in front of my computer for years without getting bored and ever talking to a woman. I couldn't do that in the 50s, I'd have to go outside and be around other people, half of which are women.

That is an insane amount of hoops to jump through.

All my friends had sex already. Most of them at like 16 or 17 at the latest. And women just "know". They can smell it on you. And worse, NONE of them want to be your first. So it's hard to get over that hump. You have to lie and say you've done it before. They will know you haven't, but they won't be able to stay if you actually admit it.
If you have any kind of social life at all it means absolutely everything. And that's silly and stupid, but it's the way the world works. It's a fucking rite of passage. EVERY person is supposed to experience it. So much so that in the old days stuff would happen like dads getting their sons hookers just to get it over with so they could move on. Ever see Biloxi Blues? Lots of dudes just lost it like that. And with this righteous incel culture everyone is too good for something like that. Everything must be 'trad' and pristine. LOL
I'm not baiting. I'm sorry it seems so foreign to you that virginity is a big deal. You must have a completely different world than I live in and had around me as a young man trying to get laid.

remember when 4channel wasn't ridden with incels

No. You've had sex. You had an experience whether you liked it much or not. You can look back and say you did it; you fucked. And it's all uphill from fatties you didn't love, right?
Imagine having sex with the girl from the office you have a crush on. Yeah, getting to do that sort of thing makes us go; makes the world turn.

entirely rearrange your life around pleasing vaginas and maybe you can touch one (she will still hate you)

no. not worth it.

Humans are subject to natural selection like every other animal, it just takes a form contextualized to humans.

5'9" actually. The average woman is like 5'5". Most women don't care and the superficial ones just want a man taller than they are.
That 6'2" bullshit is one of the dumbest of the incel blackpill myths. Absolutely laughable. Like all of them, you can easily debunk it yourself by just going to where crowds of people walk around or shop to see couples of all shapes and sizes walking hand in hand.

There are lonely older women who just stay home all day and it costs nothing at all to fuck them. I had one move me in for six months, no rent or anything. I'd still be there now if I was into settling.

yeah the site was called 4chad and then got changed to 4chincel when r/incels got shut down
gtfo normalfag

It still is lmao

lol, you so don't give a fuck that you're here all defensive about being a virgin at your age like you totally don't care and no one else does either except lower, dumber people not as evolved as you. There are totally lots of really happy middle aged virgins who simply don't give a fuck at all. So much so that they go on forums and lie to us and themselves about how totally fine they are with never having put their boner into a willing woman's engorged, wet pussy.

It's called being 'asexual', and it's a rare disorder. Everyone else has a sex drive built into them on an evolutionary level.

Poor woman

Weird, it seems so obvious when you put it that way. I guess without a computer I'd have had a harder time not having sex during covid lockdown. And even then I met up with an ex a few times.
No wonder there seems to be a correlation between terminally-online dudes and being virgins.

Distancing from abnormal behavior is a fundamental human trait.

kill yourself

enjoy your prolonged suicide lmao

I do. Incel wasn't even a word when I started coming here in 2010. And though there certainly were plenty here, they didn't have pride in it and wear it like a badge of honor to defend. They wanted to be normal.

Alright, no bullshit, just get straight to the point and answer this.
In the position of a mid 20’s-30’s male who only goes to work and doesn’t have much of a social life or friends, WHERE do you meet young women, or join a social group where you can regularly meet new women?
It feels like no one has been able to give a concrete answer to this, and most anons here are in a similar position.

you can easily debunk it yourself by just going to where crowds of people walk around or shop to see couples of all shapes and sizes walking hand in hand.

what you're describing is women settling for men they don't find physically desirable because the social institution of monogamy forces them to. you can tell it's not legitimate attraction because as the socioeconomic pressure to find a monogamous partner decreases, so does female interest in these average joes. increasingly the kind of woman who would have settled for a mid-status normie just a decade or two ago ends up deciding to stay alone instead. this will only increase, and the "you will find someone if you keep looking bro" slogan will therefore become false for a larger and larger subset of men. today's normies are tomorrow's incels and there is only so much gaslighting you can deploy to fool them.

LOL, no one who's ever pleased a vagina would think the woman would hate you for it. In fact, it's kind of the key to their happiness. Keep deluding yourself about reality, incel.

32 years old virging here, just a little more until i can have my own movie at least

You don't really believe that pasta.

dating apps
you need to be in a big city or pay up to boost your profile
it's cynical as fuck sure but it works

Instead of having that be your identity try and cross over to our side by having sex and no longer being an outcast reject.

it's not a pasta, i just wrote it, and i stand by it completely. it's an objectively real social change happening right now and you can put your head in the sand if you want but it will still keep happening

funniest thing is taking this as an insult. people do find you weird but most are actually concerned. it's the same as your grandma being worried you didn't finish your meal. something's wrong and maybe you don't realize it.

cross over to our side by having sex

Hookers dont count

It's not often that I get to feel good about myself. I'm thirty lbs overweight, losing my hair, and on the wrong side of 40. But being a virgin and proud of it and actively rejecting the idea of having sex in your own lifetime?
I feel like a fucking king for having been laid. lol
I didn't know the abyss of depression led to such strange depths for these people.

That’s too hard.

no one who's ever pleased a vagina would think the woman would hate you for it

you have never been in a relationship with a woman.

I live in the real world. You've believed the poison. I hope you wake up. Of course you don't want to. Rejection is hard to take so it's easier to just sit the game out.

This. Society isn't being mean to virgins, it's saying "c'mon little fella, lets get you out of the nest and flying around like the rest of us birds".

lol, you've never made a woman cum.

If you say so son.

why do these people always pretend like "game" isn't the most important part

well obviously you know how to flirt and charm them, so just, uh, buy a nice shirt?

remember the plapjak meme? When that spread around Anon Babble we found out that a lot of these "lol it's easy to get laid I have sex with tons of girls" posters are just banging fat girls.

anything that makes people insecure can and will be used as an insult
some fatties have regular sex and they'll still cry their eyes out if you point out that time they ate too many cheesy breadsticks, you may as well have called them a lard ass pig
it's the same with virgins except amplified by a thousand thanks to social media

no longer being an outcast reject.

Not that anon, but you're more transparent here than you think. Male advice to other males usually centres around status signalling. You focus on "just have sex loser" and never mention anything about becoming financially successful because you, also, are not financially successful. That's where you're struggling and feel "outcast" etc.

You can actually infer interesting things about the perceived sense of lack in a man by what he omits to status signal over when he offers life advice to other men.

no mention of get your money up to other men = he has money problems too

The weirdest social phenomenon around this is how guys turn on each other over pussy. A man would rather say more for me and show no compassion when the obvious solution is to divide women equally amongst men so that each has their apportioned wife. We can cast off the phoney world of dating that came after the age of arranged marriage and just go back to what worked but there are a few greedy men. It's no wonder the employment and dating market look identical nowadays.

nta either but this sounds like some pua financial life coach gobbledygook

you see I can 100% infer your entire life through this one little trick (j*ws HATE this)

A man would rather say more for me and show no compassion when the obvious solution is to divide women equally amongst men so that each has their apportioned wife

that's basically how society worked for thousands of years before modern feminism blew it up. Enforced monogomay gave all men a reason to buy into society. Get rid of that, and men will stop caring which will cause society to collapse.

women will pick up the slack

I live in the real world. You've believed the poison.

nigger, in the real world there is an ever-increasing proportion of professional women who stay single forever because they either got used to being single or can't find a man that meets their extremely exacting standards. in the past they would be married, now they are single. this means there are, for each of these women, men who would have in the past been married to them and now they are single. i'm sorry to burst your bubble but most marriages in history were not out of love but out of convenience, and as it becomes more convenient for women to be single men will be forced to be single as well. it's not complicated. it's basic logic. women don't want the average joe, you need societal pressure to force them to accept him. the societal pressure is disappearing. the result will be...?

I hope you wake up.

and when i wake up, i will somehow stop being able to perceive basic measurable societal trends like the meteoric fall in relationship formation?

apocalyptic famine?

just go to mcdonalds stupid

women can do most medium-iq, not very physical jobs. anything very physical, you need a man. anything very intellectual, you need a man (not enough women with top-tier iqs). anything that needs psychological resilience, you need a man. there's no civilization without men unless you go full sci-fi and redesign women to have male muscles and hormones and brains (ie turn them into men)

before modern feminism blew it up.

I know this is the last place to bring this up but it wasn't really feminism, it was modern day capitalism.
They got to almost double their workforce in a single generation and moved a lot of the jobs in developed countries to service industries and white collar jobs where women could participate.
This of course had the unforeseen consequence of less household production which led to lower birthrates, more spending on daycare, etc. It's not exactly by design, but it serves a much bigger structure than "le culture war".

We're heading there already. Imagine how much better things will be when a man can be guaranteed his woman and have full power over his offspring without some state full of wokescolds ready to throw him in jail for exercising his birthright.

All your facts and figures are bullshit.

No, it's just correct. Guys status signal when they give advice to other men. Most don't even realise that they're doing it. The anon who are obsessed with signalling how heccin normal and sex haver they are are all hurting financially, or they'd at least mention improving finance as well during their "life advice". They don't.

They broke and struggling, and they hate that they're broke and struggling, so they go and fuck with the spergs a bit to try and feel less shit about it.

lmfao and what kind of status are you displaying

what I find amusing about this flick, is that the hilarious no hope middle aged virgin has still had gfs and sexual encounters MULTIPLE times. the filmmakers didnt want him to be too unrelatable, lol

This is bait, and the fact that it works speaks volumes about the abysmal state of this site and the amount of subhuman plebbit newniggers in it.

sneed is the only status i need

you're kinda half right but also anyone intelligent enough to give good advice is probably aware that anonymous advice generates exactly 0 clout
if someone is so starved for schadenfreude that they come to Anon Babble to fuck with people they've already down pretty bad

like i said, you're free to live with your head in the sand, but the world will keep on spinning

Just do *lists 200 different things*

People need to stop being incels and start being volcels. Sex and women are just not worth the trouble. Just lie and bed and wait for death instead of trying to breed. Are you really gonna care for your kid and play ball with them and teach them math? I mean, you gotta look at the big picture: having a family sucks. It is a nightmare. We're better off going extinct than perpetuating the torture that is love and family.

aware that anonymous advice generates exactly 0 clout

that would be a good point if that anon was talking about rational behavior. the current-year normie is basically already halfway to a cluster-b mental disorder and he feels compelled to signal status and societal compliance even when it's meaningless. even alone in a room he's adjusting his thoughts to please an imaginary audience, like a woman

I've never even tried to get laid. If a hot woman will suddenly jump on my dick, I guess, I won't say no, but otherwise I don't care whatsoever.

I can't gain height

How is that bait, retard? I know plenty of normies irl that would never believe me if I told them that I'm a virgin at 30.

BMI skews it because a lot more men lift weights

Bro must be retarded. BMI is "skewed" for less than 1% of men. Very few men that lift are outside of normal BMI because of their muscle mass.

le worst thing she can do is say no meme

tell me you haven't dated in at least ten years. now you invite a woman to lunch and she calls the cops. women cannot have rights if they abuse the living shit out of them like this.

Have you ever tried? The ideas you're espousing come mostly from the Internet and media.

I'm going to lose my virginity next week to a prostitute, wish me luck bros.

bmi standards are different for woman and men because growing up with testosterone gives you denser bones and more muscle. it's not about lifting, but he's still correct about the general point.

If she doesn't look like the pictures just leave without paying

normalos

sex is absolutely necessary for survival. if you don't have it you are less than human.

also normalos

nobody owes you sex. if you can't have it, I suggest suicide

why are they like this?

Have you ever tried

how do think we got that idea retard

I dunno, isn't my experience.

it's just insecurity
everyone is insecure and the internet made it a gorillion time worse so people hide behind other people's insecurities to avoid their own
and it's less about sex (unless you're one of those weirdos obsessed with breeding) and more about intimacy which a lot of people also lack
I'd rather cuddle up with someone I love than do anything involving my penis

how do think we got that idea retard

TikTok and instagram with a dash of x and discord

You're not a normal person then

If you don't ever have interest in other people you've got some social problems beyond just boredom or shyness

Yeah, it's called autism.

I'm not sure what causes the odd ones to ignore how the majority of the world differs from them

They don't, it just took until I was a grown adult to actually get assessed.
We never get to talking about anything that grabs me, and so I don't really have any questions, but I do want to spend time around people.
It's kind of a catch-22 b/c I don't really feel energetic to have deep interest in even my own hobbies, but I also feel like I need to be around people to break the monotony and get interest again.
I had one best friend for years, we had a huge falling out, and I haven't really felt drawn to talk to people again until recently.
I've had sexual flings but I'm 27 now and don't see sex alone as being worth being all fake and smiley.
I'm sure people will say the diagnosis is fake which is fine but my social skills are stunted all the same, but it did get it into my head that I actually do need to train this shit

The sad thing about these threads is that the two sides absolutely refuse to listen to each other and steadfastly believe their own view is the correct one

all women are whores and will call the cops on you if you are ugly!

all virgins (male ones) have never ever tried approaching a girl and are constantly lying!

all sex-havers have never put effort into their looks or behavior!

all virgins (again, men) never put effort into their looks or behavior because if they did....they wouldn't be virgins!

etc etc and repeat ad infinitum. No wonder everyone is so angry and tribal all the time

normies believe in a just world, incels in an unfair one. both are wrong

incel

Just cel. I don't care.

take some good pics of yourself, make instagram, go on dating app, then exchange instagrams with girls

No

I was pro-virgin until I realized how easy it was to get laid, not just get laid but get a gf. Now I just think it's stupid the amount of mental barriers virgins put on themselves and I used to put on myself. You have all these people willing to help you and still find a problem with the advice they're giving you.

I'll pro-lapsw your asshole you dumb faggot

Problem is he didn't want to sell them, plus he had to raise another man's kid.

Yeah, it's called autism.

most self diagnosed autistics are really just introverts
they make female versions of those as well believe it or not

sorry didn't read the rest...my sympathies anon
but you're still in a better spot than most, I hope you don't let it bring you down

Autism isn’t a line.

why do you need to be pro- anything? I understand both sides because I'm wise and rational

yeah I realize that, believe me
I'm just tired of people self diagnosing mental illness and romanticizing it
I hope you find someone who accepts you and makes you feel loved
I'm gay btw

yeah yeah it's a spectrum you coincidentally fall on

no, you're spineless and without conviction like all centrist cucks

I want to understand and help people understand each other

YOU CENTRIST FUCK

so then isnt everyone some degree of autistic then. what does autistic even mean now

I'm gay btw

eek dude like what

just playing the numbers game bro I'm not actually gay just spiritually

If you don't ever have interest in other people you've got some social problems beyond just boredom or shyness

That doesn't sound like a problem widely-faced by introverts. I got diagnosed after seven hours of testing as a grown ass adult. I understand where you're coming from regarding diagnosis-shopping, but I don't have a social circle to parade my diagnosis around and don't get off on going "i am unique. I AM ME"

that anon wasn't me btw. also yeah being diagnosed was helpful to me because it was everyone telling me "yeah, no, you actually do suck at this, you need to get better at social skills to have a truly fulfilling life" in a way I couldn't ignore. The danger is in letting "I'm disabled" become a self-fulfilling prophecy and you just accept that you never have to change

that they have enough degrees of autism to be formally considered autistic? i really don't know. i hear insistence that you either are or are not autistically-wired but then it's like:
Okay so you can be autistically wired but be self-aware enough to never be diagnosed? Are they just German or some shit? I dunno. I feel like if I were pushed to actually socialize as a kid I probably would've avoided being diagnosed entirely, I'd still be "autistic" neurologically, but I dunno if the diagnosis would be much relief when I'm already functioning just fine

also thank you anon, God bless

Most women don't care and the superficial ones just want a man taller than they are.

WRONG. Utterly wrong. They want a man who is taller than themselves AND taller than other men. A 5'5" chick isn't looking for 5'9" dudes, she's still looking for 6'2" and up.

The danger is in letting "I'm disabled" become a self-fulfilling prophecy and you just accept that you never have to change

I've had that moment with a physical debilitation as well and I'm glad I didn't let it get to me
could have spent the rest of my life pissing my pants and unable to hold down a job and I'm really thankful for the people around me giving me a similar wake up call
I'm also introverted as fuck so having people tell me how to do things wasn't easy but I'm slowly getting over that hurdle...it's not easy being cheesy
hope you have a happy life man, I really do

You can see this even in interviews of Japanese girls where they want 6 feet when they are literally 5'1 gigawomanlets

desu at 34 I'm too far gone to have sex or a relationship. I've kind of accepted my fate

right of course and I'm still looking for a moner gf but I make do, I compromise

I'm trying to do it and it's hard as you say anon.

You MUST NOT just go to work. You have to go places. These people meet girls through:
1. University classrooms (worst idea), university clubs (less bad idea), random campus interactions (good idea, still hard)
2. Peer social activities (parties, weddings, hangouts (hard)
3. Referral by friend

You have the options of
1. Joining clubs after work, going to bars and parties (mixed bag of people)
2. Cold approach (People are put off by this thing)

Go back to university, but do it now because you will like 18 yo girls and they will be intimidate by your age. Also, harder still, these girls are looking for vibe and ease, and if you've gone this far without a partner that means you're focused on survival and have some sort of PTSD, dysthymia or any other prolonged abandonment issues. Work on them right now.

'm turning 30 this month and I just lost any chance with a 18 year old huge tits mild-tempered thot-looking girl. The weight of the years of believing bullshit and having nobody to guide me has devastated me, it's not even the girl. She was my motivation to better myself, now I'm back to the misery seeing the days go by.

Fuck a hooker, retard.

b-but robbed by her pimp

Check reviews online or go to a reputable agency

b-but STDs

statistically very low if you use a condom

laughing at people in an unfortunate situation doesn't make you better

the kind of woman who would have settled for a mid-status normie just a decade or two ago ends up deciding to stay alone instead.

This is the source of all male-female strife in human history. All women wanted Chad, and most had to settle with a man who wasn't him. So they secretly became resentful of their husbands for not being the absolute pinnacle of masculine achievement.

Women legitimately need to be kept in cages until we figure out a way to remove their hypergamous gene with CRISPR or something.

37 here, got my first kiss and current GF at 30, don't give up Anon.

it literally does. your mood is improved, and that has a positive impact on your life quality and long-term health. what harms you is seething at people's successes, not laughing at their failures.

KHHV at 24 years old

Yeah, I'm thinking I'll have to rope at this point if things stay this way forever. I should've spent more time trying to chat up Stacy than learning to doodle anime girls

I don't get this picture

people do find you weird but most are actually concerned.

Concerned in the same way they'd be concerned about a potential school shooter finally acting on his fantasies. Most people think you are a possibly dangerous alien if you admit to being a virgin past the age of 24. If you couldn't manage to convince a chick to have sex with you all throughout your highschool and college years, the question then becomes

Okay, what were you doing all that time? Building a bomb? Planning an assassination?

I'm not being hyperbolic here. This is how most people, not even just normies, think about how fundamental to the human experience sex is.

why should I pay for something others have for free?
also I would like a gf, not just sex

if we manage to put them in cages we won't need to do anything afterwards. that's it, that's already the solution.

and they're right

Here are my issues right now.
1. I hardly feel joy anymore. Out of everything I expect the worst, and if it doesn't come out bad, I act uncaring to not look happy over silly thing and get shamed. Thanks elementary school bullies.
2. I can't connect with people because the few things I like, I must earn them through hard effort (competitiveness, playing instruments, singing dad rock songs) and people look towards being relaxed and not giving a shit
3. I don't enjoy my own company because everything is "working towards betterment". I may try stuff like going to the beach, going to a bar, I don't enjoy them because I can't relax since there's nobody else with me, so I constantly wonder if I'm doing right or wrong.

potential school shooter finally acting on his fantasies.

Funny you say this. Yesterday I got that exact same feeling. I was feeling high levels of frustration, I was lying down on the bed uneasy, I felt my heart beating and all I could imagine were the Rohirrim chanting "Death". It's a feeling of having to be in motion, to do something grand and finally escape from all the shit. And hours after ranting and weeping I thought of Flanders' fields. Just incel things.

I'm a 32 kissless virgin, should I kill myself yet? I'm also 5'7 and autistic

nah, killing yourself is what the normies want you to do

No, that's a temporary solution. Like Pandora's Box, one day they will escape or some simp will convince enough other simps to let them out. If we can remove the hypergamous instinct from women, humanity will be a galaxy-spanning civilization within 100 years.

Dying a male virgin is the easy path to heaven according to all major religions anon. Recreational sex is inherently sinful and you will be judged for it and have a mark stricken against you.

my first kiss and current GF at 30,

How

they hated him because he told the truth

stay alive out of spite

why the fuck is the blame for this on men? it's women's demands that have skyrocketed, it's women that are rejecting everybody. calling men weird for being single feels like when a homeowner gets sued by a burglar because he sprained his ankle breaking in

Anon you can’t, we are reverting back to the mean. The days are women whoring themselves to random guys are done, now we are at the phase of hyper hypergamy so most guys won’t get anything but soon enough women will act like women pre 1920’s. Never forget that women whoring around was always a Jewish psyop. Jews did 9/11, Jews killed Kennedy, Jews got us to fight their wars in the Middle East and Jews created the COVID vaccine which sterilized half the population.

this

Don’t do it. Don’t get a disease.

Because women are the gatekeepers of sex. They have all the power, which is why they were more or less forced to marry dudes by the time they were 16-18.

Women are solipsistic sadists and will humiliate you for not meeting her standards, which she increases or decreases on a whim based on how physically attractive a man is.

statistically very low if you use a condom

lol bullshit moron

Got a blog for your artwork?

I'm 5'5. I already tried twice and got rejected explicitly because I was short. It's so fucking demoralizing, I can't do it

You weren't charming enough. That's about it.

dafuq, you've been with your gf now for 7 years and its still the only girl you've ever been with? How many has she been with before you?

Out of everything I expect the worst

Same, it's actually a good habit if you don't obsess over it.

I can't connect with people because the few things I like

Try new hobbies, don't do any you don't enjoy or you'll be miserable.

I don't enjoy my own company

This is where i would recommend you to invest more time to "fix" since you can't enjoy a good time with others when you can't ejoy your time alone, as an introvert this alone time is where i chill and "recharge".

This is precisely why having hobbies you enjoy are so important and not doing shit you think others would think it makes you interesting.

I wouldn't recommend it, try to learn to enjoy life before getting into a relationship, that's the real chick magnet plus a lot more benefits included.

umm you're too short for me

another societal problem that would be solved if men were allowed to date preschoolers

"Tried twice"
Like you've only asked out 2 girls in your entire life?

You only need to win once, anon. Are you seriously jealous that women get sex?

Face it as a reality. Yes, it's fucking unjust. You wouldn't be saying it's unjust if you were the one getting the sex though. You can't fix the world so you should look for personal happiness.

And it wouldn't surprise me if that guy's girl has been with 10 different people at the least, may well be in the hundreds, that doesn't make any difference.

Stop.
Posting.
The.
Same.
Fucking.
Shit.
You.
Fucking.
Nigger.
Faggot.

Just ask out women you're not interested in bro, gotta play the game, gotta do reps

Society is not built for the kind of men who are being left behind. They are damaged men spat out by the machine, or they're men with a different brain architecture that makes them monogamous. What you are seeing is speciation, evolution at work. And just with anything evolution related, most become dead ends.

"dude you just need to wear nice clothes and hit the gym"

go outside

see plenty of twig armed zoomers wearing pajama pants who still have cute gfs

self improvement is cope

It never fails to get (You)s THOUGH

it's fascinating to me how convicted felons and drug dealers with baby mamas seem to have no problem attracting women while plenty of mild mannered normal guys with good jobs seem to really struggle.

desu, if I was an incel, I'd develop a heroin addiction or join a gang, you'd inevitably get pussy at some point. The most unattractive thing a man can be is boring

to all you young or old virgins - Why not just hire a hooker? It will at least get the deed done

Because it’s pozzed

And gooning is a sinless behavior

I'm a wizard so I cope with romance novels and shipping fanfics to numb the pain. Women have hated me pretty much my entire life and I'm terrified of them. I've never had a female friend outside of my mom and cousin.

Because the desire to lose male virginity is actually the desire for companionship. A hooker will not give you that any more than your hand, if you lose your virginity to a hooker you are still a virgin.

all sins are the same

Gooning is a -0.1, fucking for fun and not having babies is -100.

He was just unmarried and saving himself like the good Christian he is I did and I hate myself for it

You’re more of a loser if you lose your virginity to a prostitute than if you were to keep your virginity. Purity is purity.

I'd rather be a virgin than do any of this

pretty retarded way of thinking

The fundamental problem with incels is that they're just not social enough.

If you were social, and went to events, parties, etc, it's almost impossible that they wouldn't have gotten a gf at some point. But instead the average Anon Babble autist has no friends to they think approaching women in line at whole foods is a good idea lol

This. At this point it's aposematism.

Fall deep in love with big tits cute girl

Tell her I like her, have ONE good conversation with her

Start buying new clothes and shit

She loses all interest once she tells I can't set vibe and all I do is ask personal questions

She ends up with a fugly taller guy dressed in a poorshit looking loose shirt

The eyes and posture of a woman in love

If you were bullied, if your parents thought life sorted itself out, you are doomed, or you need to have a grave crisis that resets everything you think about yourself.

not everyone is born or lives in an environment where there's plenty of parties, events and other cool shit to do, the environment you grow up in dictates many things

it's the same thing. the difference is in what you have access to, just porn or other people, not in the nature of the sin. a rich man and a poor man will both be punished the same for gluttony even if the rich man could afford more food.

you're right, the r/deadbedrooms abyss is a much better example of how marriage is.

if you went to high school, unless you lived in some isolated village of 100 people there definitely were parties at some point

A gooner does not have access to procreation. A sex haver does. It’s not the same sin. Recreational sex is a greater sin in much the same way murder is greater than assault.

Because we don't look for sex, we've gone long without it.

We crave intimacy. We crave someone compassionate to give a shit about our struggles and who can walk us through growth.

I am also concerned about STDs. Antibiotics for Chlamydia or syphilis will increase your chance of dying from sepsis at old age for fucking up your overall bacterial flora, still the least of concerns. HIV can be prevented by using PrEp pills, but the HIV health program in my country is the only one that provides them and you may need weeks after consultation to get them from the necessary tests, pledging to go to regular checkups etc. I also need the HPV vaccine to not get throat cancer like Bruce Dickinson and not give cancer to whoever becomes my wife eventually, but you need to complete the doses across 6 months.

Yes, fucking whores is not beyond me but there are real things I'd rather not play with, and the precautions take time. Also fucking whores will give the ick to girls you date.

not every high school is the same

just stop whining and fuck a hooker, afterwards you can start thinking about finding a girl for a potential relationship and shit like that. Also remember to use condoms at all times

Modern male mating is inherently set up to fail. You basically have 18 years to pair before age of consent laws inherently cut off 95% of your available dating pool. After of which it's an uphill struggle because dating anyone younger has severe societal push back from jealous men and women, you basically have 7 years, at which at 26, you will no longer be sexually attracted to women your age, but dating anything younger is restricted to you. Today, streamers, porn, social media and videogames are all designed to waste the first 18 year old golden period, not to mention society also pushes back on having sex during this period because it interferes with your ability to take on student debt or start waging early.

That's not to say it's over at 25, because 99% of 25 year old women may still look attractive but are actually completely busted up physically and mentally. It's actually over at 15, because 14 is your last reasonable chance to find a girlfriend of the same age who's not had her vagina completely beaten up. If you haven't had sex by 15, your life was already destined to be over.

Why not just hire a hooker?

Yeah just hire a hooker. It must be so easy, please tell us how to do that.

What if you had perfectionist parents who were too shy to talk to you about sex and relationships? What if they put you in a christian school that demonized sex before marriage and sex before adulthood? What if you were shamed by your peers for your prone to crying temperament instead of being shown the ropes? What if your school was autistic about forbidding relationships with the threat of expulsion? What if you became an adult fed on a mix of bullshit about chastity, avoiding mistakes and romantic love? What if you chose a degree like medicine in which 100% of your time is spent into memorizing and not partying? What if you were never inducted to drinking, when ask people still say drinking is a bad idea, and your parents still worried about your whereabouts if you were not going straight home from uni?

People DO grow in fucked up environments. Insidious environments where everything seems to be fine but they're just ignoring a vital fucking part of living.

Hookers are illegal.

you're thinking about it in terms of material results when the point of sin is the damage it does to your soul and your relationship with god. a man on a desert island who slashes at trees pretending they're people stains his soul with murder despite lack of victims to act upon. a gooner bathes in sin, he fills his soul with lust to the maximum of his capacity, he obliterates himself. you don't need access to a vagina to kill your soul.

Dude.

Why do you think virginity is the problem?

Aren't we all telling you nobody gives a single fuck about virginity and what people want are girlfriends, and that the only speck of self respect people have is lost when they fuck whores for the sake of filling a checklist?

If I wanted to fuck a whore I'd fuck a beautiful whore. I still wouldn't do it if I'm feeling down or after being rejected or any shit. If I don't truly want it then it's not worth doing. That fact doesn't remove the longing for belonging and the weight of lost time.

surely you can just date women in their late teens/early 20s at 25?

Remember, half your age + 7, so you could still date a 19 year old at 25

all teenagers are the same

ok stay virgin

hooking is illegal, hiring a hooker to fuck her is fine

there are websites for that regardless of where you live, all you need is to have some cash

Consuming drugs is "fine" too.

If you keep up with the latest zoomer hysterias, the max age gap these days is only 1 year, and even male zoomers complain about being "groomed" by older women if they are more than a year older. It's not legally binding, but you're getting the same dagger eyes as those pointed at 60 year olds marrying 20 year old trophy wives.

noone mentioned drugs you nigger

I have a shorts channel where I post timelapses but that's about it, no Twitter or pixiv yet. Maybe someday if I don't rope before then. I relate hard to the guy posting about fucked environments ignoring a crucial part of life, that played a big role in my life history

youtube.com/shorts/UymRi_sC7Uo?si=e7BBcJ0CssGZZ8TC

Aren't we all telling you nobody gives a single fuck about virginity and what people want are girlfriends

But here's the kicker: women will never provide what you actually want. They want to get fucked roughly and have you comfort and cuddle them. They never want to comfort or cuddle YOU. Incels are projecting a "motherly" experience onto relationships that simply doesn't exist except in extreme outliers. If you enter adulthood with a longing for intimacy, you're destined to be alone. Women do not want to provide men with intimacy, they want to be provided intimacy and attention. And if you ever manage to get a girl and you start being affectionate and expect her to return the affection, you are already being cheated on.

but not all wome-

At least 95% of women. Females are more similar to each other than males are, there is simply less individuality among them. Unless you are extremely lucky, the women you eventually get with will be an average woman who is disgusted by male vulnerability.

Okay, so post the websites. The legit ones.

I don't know where you are from, where I'm from we have our own websites for that shit

You are nigger. They both are illegal, but "fine" by law to some extent.

Good luck anon, maybe try Baraag too

31 khhv. I think at this point I'll stay one cause I think it's funny how it makes others uncomfortable

noone gives a shit, trust me

I'm approaching 40, and I haven't had sex in something like 6-7 years.
Women are hot, sure, but I don't want a relationship with one...

That’s wrong because larping and actually doing the deed are not the same at all. The only people that think like that are low IQ puritan protestant. You are judged by your deeds not how you “feel”. You can’t fix yourself when you did shit but you can when you just thought about it.

I will never have sex because i don't want to do shady stuff like lying about virginity or using escorts.

ive only ever been with the same woman for 21 years, i stayed with her because shes the most stable and least psychotic/self defeating one Ive ever known (raised conservative catholic). Your life is much better when you release that inner need to be validated by them. They are basically like toddlers, just get some healthy sons out of them and invest more time in creative persuits or male friendship which is the only thing that will actually makes you feel less lonely. I could dump my mrs for any of the thots thay hover around me like flies on shit but why? When they realize you dont need them it makes them crazy, which is really funny.

You are not wrong and I am aware of it. I guess what I truly want is to take the things I want the moment I want them. Maybe I will always long for companionship and connection, but at some point the sight of a girl in love on a woman I'm attracted to is enough. Maybe no woman will ever share my range of autistic interests (mythology, prog rock, playing instruments, rpgs, biology), but at least seeing myself make a tiny little house in my heart for her to live in is enough. It reminds me of Kalevala in which the old wizard guy wants a wife and calls her a little chicken, a little bird under his thumb. Maybe I want a pet I can have sex with.

And yes, the core of the problem is women don't want who I am, and to give her what they want It'd be best I were born again, because I have a load of shit, a load of wounds, and a scarred brain to which feeling happiness is difficult. I still won't give up. Call it faustian spirit or stubbornness, I won't give fucking up if that means the end of me.

just go
and talk to women
:)

I don't blame you but least control sexual desire then, or just occasional prozzies for relief and release. Don't turn into a sexual degenerate or suffer in celibacy if you cannot control desire.

Man I used to have to do the barfly type chat up line shit in my early 20s.
It was annoying as fuck.
Now its just speak normally, dont even need to try.
Especially in bars and clubs, that is what people go there for.

I think I'm past caring about it too much. It's more of a dull, constant ache at this point.
What I really need are friends. It was so much easier to make them when I was a kid. I moved into a new state for work, don't know anyone, and can't relate to my coworkers--they're all mid-40s or older guys with families. I go outside, hike, shoot, drink at the bar, go to church, etc., but always alone. It's like I'm the last man on Earth.

What the other guy said, just make some shit up. It's what I did and it worked for me.
I only made up like one ex and a not very serious college kind of relationship tho so it's not like there's a huge story I pulled out of my ass. It just turned me from 'kissless handholdless virgin creep' to 'dude who didn't meet anyone since college'.

does eating a girl out count?

Yes. Most incels would agree if you've ever even kissed a woman, you're volcel at worst.

Fuck that, i can't lie like that, it's disguising.

You only need to do it once, then you'll have a real ex in your background. It's like getting a job--you need to exaggerate and lie a little on your resume to get your foot in through the door.

It's not exaggerate and lie a little, it's complete farce.

How do you start seeing value in yourself if nobody has looked value in you and you have been given shit in everything you do, and you're not in the place in life you want to be in, and the effort to be in that place is unsurmountable and time consuming, and what if you can't even trust your instincts because your instincts make you fall madly in love with women who don't give you the time of day?

What if you couldn't care about people because you've always been alone and had to learn to be self-reliant, what if you can't connect anymore because you have strayed so far from what everyone does, what if your generation left you behind? You do what, fake it till you make it? Then how do you cope with living as a full time job?

I ask sincerely, I just feel like I was left with a pile of shit and a spoon to remove it with.